Let's discuss vegetarian/vegan-ism!

Is there any reception on here for meat free chads?

I'm flexitarian AKA meat minimalist

I would eat at vegan places with my roomate. I like the salad with imitation chicken .

I cook vegan food most of the time, because my girlfriend does not like hurting animals.

I've found that I'm enjoying a lot of meals lately with chickpeas/kidney beans as my main protein source + some sauce.

E.g.
Chickpea curry - pretty easy - 1x onion fried + some garlic + can of chopped tomatoes + paprika, then chuck the chickpeas in and simmer

cannelini bean stew - again it's just onion, chopped tomatoes, and then chuck some beans in and simmer

recipes like these are pretty good for meal prep, can last me nearly a week.

>>21461477 (OP)
>Decided to black beanmaxx for protein 5 days ago because I saw a gross video of someone making "cinnamon toast cabeza" and realized eating a dead animal is disgusting
>Thought with all the fiber it would make shitting easier
>Have a bout of diarrhea and then end up constipated for the rest of the week

>>21461477 (OP)
Wow 5 replies without meatcucks chimping out.

Hitler was a vegetarian.

>>21461477 (OP)
You are mentally ill. You will eat the most ultra processed and unhealthy slop because these diets are about attention whoring and not about health

>>21461534
If you fry your chickpeas in some olive oil first they taste a lot better! And you can deglaze with the onion afterwards, it’s amazing.

>>21461549
What do you mean by "maxx"? Like, you ate 4 cups of beans (64g protein, 60g fiber) a day? Daily fiber for men is like 40g, and i'm guessing beans were in no way a part of your diet before? I also wonder if the constipation was because the diarrhea took all the water out of your stool.

I eat a lot of beans, but certainly not close to 4 cups a day. I get my protein from eggs, pintos, lentils, homemade soymilk, yogurt, milk, and occasionally garbanzo beans, chicken, and fish as a weekly staple. Just go for a varied diet so your body is used to different foods. I'm pretty sure if I "chip maxxed" for a week, it'd destroy my digestion too.

>>21461477 (OP)
>Is there any reception on here for meat free chads?
Yeah, they show up whenever beef or milk is mentioned. You picked the wrong subject if you wanted to talk to vegans.

Not a vegan, but I discovered a very good replacement for eggs: chickpea flour. Also known as Besan. You can mix Besan and water and fry it or scramble it and it tastes very similar to eggs, especially if you mix it with vegetables and spices, like an omelette. High protein. You can also make fritters like pakora or falafel, or use it as a binder to make vege pancakes. Also you can make hummus. There are also many stews and curries based on Besan flour

Love me some.

>>21461549
made some black bean quesadillas today. comfy

>>21463225
That isn't vegan or vegetarian unless specifically stated. The dashi part in agedashi is a fish stock.

I wish I liked vegan food since my sister and her husband are vegan but I honestly haven't had anything that I would really say is good. I miss when they were vegitarians as I had more options to eat out with them. I guess I miss hanging out with them more.

>>21464185
Vegan food can be good but, perhaps paradoxically, it almost never is when cooked by a vegan.

>>21462787
>Not a vegan
Bullshit. No one but someone who's not had an egg in ages would ever mistake chickpea flour for them in a scramble. They're texturally completely different not to mention the flavour.
The only place you can use the stuff as a replacement for egg is dough and batter. I use it in my cookie doughs when I'm baking for my brother and his wife cuz they're vegan. I also use it in my just-add-water (also oil lmao) pancake mix instead of powdered egg because it's considerably cheaper and the results taste moreorless the same.
But as a replacement for egg dishes? Nah, bruh. FOHWTBS

>>21464276
In my experience vegans skimp on salt and oil and aromatics. Non-vegans who cook vegan dishes don't have the same kind of phobias and tend to properly season their vegan dishes.

>>21461549
black beans upset my stomach for some reason but others usually don't. sometimes if you just suddenly start eating a lot of beans it'll upset your stomach like that and eventually go away though.

>>21464288
I think it's all the substitutes. I just cook things that happen to not have animal products in them and they're delicious. Vegans cook vegan grilled "cheese"/mac and "cheese" and vegan burgers that are generally abysmal. The only time I've ever had a substitute that was any good is when wife thought we had paneer in the freezer but there was none so she used a block of tofu (we always have tofu in the house) instead and while it didn't taste like her homemade paneer, it was still delicious. But maybe that's because your were right all along; it was a curry, after all. Lotsa spices and seasonings

>>21464284
it does taste kind of similar sometimes. i had a chickpea snack that i thought tasted like eggs before.

>>21464294
That's the kali namak, black volcanic salt. It tastes of sulfur which some people find eggy. The texture of chickpea batter scramble is entirely unlike egg, though, and its natural flavour is that if chickpea, not of egg.
If you hold on a sec, I'll post a link to a veganfluencer's video of her making the l high protein chickpea tofu (not the besan stuff; this is made exactly as you would make actual tofu). I bet the resulting curds, seasoned with kali namak, could make for a decent, albeit still not identical, replacement for scrambled egg. I think she may have actually done that in another video. Anyway, hold on.

>>21464293
The meat substitutes thing is very true. A lot of vegans don't know the very basics of cooking vegetables. I agree with you on the traditional meat substitutes like paneer and tofu. Those can be delicious. The processed fake meat is ok but it's Dino Tendie tier junk food and shouldn't be a dietary staple.
>But maybe that's because your were right all along; lotsa spices and seasonings.
I know.

>>21461477 (OP)
Has anyone who almost liked tofu but not quite found a way to make it significantly more appealing?

I tried to eat vegetarian for a week, just to challenge myself to cook and eat new and different foods because I was raised on a very meat and potatoes sort of diet.
I only lasted a week though, every meal just started to feel like it was missing something. I also ate too many nuts because I was never satiated and so I had orange oil in my shit. It was disgusting.
I went to a vegan restaurant with a friend once and got a grilled "cheese", and holy fuck that fake cheese was vile. I was stoned off of my ass and still didn't finish it because it was so bad.

>>21464322
Not vegetarian, but mapo tofu is delicious.

What's a good replacement for mince meat?

>>21461615
He also drank water

>>21464322
It's good when you stop treating it as a be-all sub in for meat and treat it as its own thing. The only time it works as z meat sub in is with that freeze->thaw->freeze->thaw thing where you can get it to be texturally similar to chicken. Once you squeeze every last bit of moisture out of it using that freeze->thaw method and replace it with vegetarian chicken broth, it will taste like chicken, too, but will still have that tofu-y aftertaste but if you make the pieces small enough then bread and fry them as chicken nuggets, they can be pretty close to the real thing.
>>21464312
I don't treat either tofu or paneer as substitutes for meat, we just happened to use tofu as a substitute for paneer that one time and it worked out well.
>>21464307
>>21464294
Here's the tofu making video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JwU4nbeDlo
And here's the scramble:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkfI66gzxKw
>>21464332
Whatcha wanna do with it? The missus uses European lentils in place of mince for making keema and while you wouldn't mistake it for meat, it tastes very nice, anyway.

>>21464337
I'm not really sure what I want to do, my main meal a day is mince with beans and veggies, so I'm wondering what I can replace the mince with to give me that filling feeling along with beans and veggies

>>21464332
There isn't one. Just cook the fucking vegetables like they're vegetables and stop trying to turn them into meat.

>>21464340
Well yeah, sorry. I don't know what to do there. You might like those fake mince packages. I find them generally awful after the only good one was inexplicably discontinued.

Informationpill me on lentils

>>21464307
>That's the kali namak
yeah i looked up the ingredient list and it's in there.

truthfully i didn't care for it too much, thought it was kind of odd and i'm not the biggest fan of eggs but i love chickpeas.

>>21464340
This is very popular with vegetarian/vegans in the Caribbean, Asians, and old white hippies. It's pretty good.
>Soy curls are a soy-based meat alternative made by boiling and dehydrating soybeans, with a texture similar to that of chicken.
>They are prepared by boiling, baking, or frying.
>Soy curls are made from select, non-GMO, whole soybeans, grown in the USA without chemical pesticides.
>The process involves soaking the beans in spring water (no chlorine), then stirring while being cooked. Soy curls are dried at a low temperature, ensuring the natural goodness of the whole soybean, high in fiber and omega-3.

>Soy curls are a versatile ingredient that can be used in a variety of dishes such as soups, over rice, on pizza, in fajitas, enchiladas, tacos, stir-fry, casseroles, pasta, salads, and more.
>They are often used as a meat alternative in plant-based cooking and can easily serve as vegan meats in vegan and vegetarian recipes by soaking them in flavorful broths and marinades before cooking.

>The company that invented soy curls, Butler Foods, trademarked the name, so there’s only one brand to look for. The curls can be bought in bulk or in 8-ounce bags. Eight ounces of soy curls, when rehydrated, is equivalent to about 1¼ pounds of meat.
>Soy curls are available in many Asian grocers and high-end and health-oriented markets, as well as online retailers like Amazon.

Alright bros what should I add on my post-work crackers that isn't cheese or meat? I have this mustard spread I love but what else should I put on it?

>>21464447
peanut butter. i could see sweet mustard not tasting bad with peanut butter. but if it's not sweet it could still work like other savory peanut butter foods.

>>21462787
Get aquafaba from a can of chickpeas
https://youtu.be/mOis5zdPwc4

I want to go vegetarian but I have a bunch of meat left in my fridge, what do? Feels like a waste to throw it out

>>21464493
eat it. i never agreed with the vegetarians who thought it was better to throw meat in the trash than eat it unless it actually makes you sick to eat or something. or give it someone who will eat it.

>>21464347
It's cheap af, has good protein, and is easy to cook. That's it. Use it if you like, or don't. Make stew/curry out of it.

It's not a substitute for rice in general. Treat it as its own thing

>>21464332
hehe, what a nice joy inducing pic. I keep seeing it while typing

There sorta isnt a good sub for meat, 'cept maybe the fake meat but idk since I've never had em. If you want a break from mince, why not just go for ground turkey, or just chicken (no ground chicken cause all chicken meat doesn't really go to waste to be ground up). Or eat fish with your veggies (idk). Or change up your beans, like chickpeas, blackbeans, pintos, great northern, or mature lima/butter beans (these are good enough that I actually mention the name butter).

To give my food a filler feeling, I just add more stuff to it. I eat a carb with my beans, like tortillas, maybe some guac, onions, rice. If you want more meatiness to your beans without meat, put in some MSG or mushrooms or use fish via Worchestershire, sardines, or anchovies. Maybe some chicken if you want. Firm tofu or paneer would actually do a decent job too in general, and are good fried or battered.

>>21464447
I was gonna say that you can't beat cheese, but hummus or baba ganoush (harder to get) are pretty damn good. Buy some hummus

>>21464656
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>21464666
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>21464675
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>21464685
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>21464284
I'm not vegan, I just cook a lot of spicy food, and I learned a recipe for besan cheela, which is a savoury pancake with lots of herbs and spices. When I tasted it, it was like a crispy omelette. It even looks like an omelette. I'm not saying it tastes exactly like eggs but it is a useful breakfast alternative to eggs.
Picrel: spinach cheela

>>21464731
I'm familiar with it. My wife is Marathi. But that shit don't taste like eggs. Like… at all.
>>21464657
>Buy some hummus
>get baba ganoush
Jesus. Neither is remotely difficult to make yourself. Baba is slightly more involved but still pretty unfuckupable.

>>21464332
You can try textured soy protein. I use it ocassionally but Im trying to get a better texture, like adding water or a binder. It comes out too dry.
Next time Ill soak it overnight and see if its better.

>>21465669
it needs fat
i use 2.25oz tvp+1.75oz fat+4oz water
vegetable shortening has the best texture but any neutral oil is fine

>>21465763
>vegetable shortening
shit's bad for you, use pretty much any other fat. coconut oil is good if you want something more solid.

>50+ replies
>No mention of tempeh
Easiest protein for vegans to cook.

>>21466025
tastes poopy tho

>>21466039
Tastes like poop you say? Exquisite

>>21466039
No. Marinade it in a sauce 5 minutes each side, it's delicious. If you fail at making tempeh taste good, you don't serve to be here, get off of /ck/

>>21466041
We watched this in class:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquis_(film)
It's a puppet film of the Marquis de Sade's life where all the characters are animals. The Marquis himself is a dog and his penis is also a character, complete with lines. He comes out to argue with him from time to time during the film. I remember wondering at the time who the fuck got the job of puppeteering a dog dick in this movie and how the fuck they set about finding someone to do it.
Quaker schools are weird.
Lotsa vegan options for lunch, though!

>>21466051
That's nothing compared to his books

>>21466048
Bruh, I literally moved to the US from Southeast Asia and live in an Indonesian exclave here (where I speak Melayu because it's close enough). I grew up with the stuff. You're some ang mo who discovered it last Tuesday. I didn't like it as a kid and I don't like it now. I'll eat it with no complaints but there is no chance I will ever buy any for myself.

>>21466054
mmm gutter oil

>>21466217
Wrong country, retard. Anon is Singaporean or Malaysian.

>>21464081
this specific dashi is nakadashi so it's vegan

>>21466399
>nakadashi
Yeah I could go for some nakadashi right now

>>21464340
that mushroom quorn stuff is filling as hell
tastes about as boring as chicken though

Beans and Chickpeas make you fart alot and have lots of carbs.
You cant usually eat it with bread because of the calories. So be careful.
Heres a simple divine vegetarian recipe which I created.
>add a little water, oil and soy sauce in a pan of some kind.
>add vegetables(onion, peppers, garlic, etc)
Once the water has evaporated (shouldnt take more than 5 minutes):
>add blendered tofu(if you have to squeeze the tofu in your hands before adding it to remove the water so it wont blender into a paste.
>mix the vegetables with tofu
>add a fresh blendered tomato(optional)
>add more water if necesary so it mixes better.
>add preboiled beans, or chickeas, lentils whatever the fuck you want, even boiled potatoes.
>let it boil all togheter for 5 minutes.
>eat.
The reason why I blender the tofu its because I personally dont like large pieces of tofu.
You can add more water and make a delicious soup.
Enjoy.

>>21461477 (OP)
>vegetarian for 2 decades
>decide to introduce meat to diet so I can have omnivore child
>read that vegetarians feel so good after eating meat like their fatigue goes away and they have a mood boost
>looking forward to feeling great
>meat's not very good
>daily consumption confers no noticeable benefits other than being a guest in someone's home is less awkward
I went back to making myself a vegetarian version of whatever I'm feeding the rest of the family.

>>21462787
>use it as a binder to make vege pancakes
This is delicious. Add grated carrot, onion, and zucchini. Season it with curry powder. So good.

>>21461615
Explains why he lost

>>21461477 (OP)
>tfw only eat hunted meat, specifically animals that need to be hunted anyway (ie wild boar)
you guys should adopt this diet, it’s moral, it’s practical, and it’s tasty

>>21467921
My brother is a vegan but has said he would do this if his wife wouldn't lose her shit over it.

>>21467921
>anon is almost this close to realising a lot of people have issue with mass factory farming and not necessarily killing animals out of necessity
>anon is almost about to realise the world is complex and has gray areas

>>21468036
>killing animals out of necessity
But the whole point of veganism is killing animals isn't a necessity for any human. If you have a problem with factory farms but not hunters killing and eating animals then you don't understand veganism at all.

Anyone have any favorite italian dishes? Pasta is by far my favorite food and I made lentil bolognese yesterday that was delicious. I'll list some of my other favorites below
>Aglio e olio (Garlic and oil)
>Pasta allo norma (Eggplant pasta)
>Pasta allo scarpariello (Shoemaker's pasta)
>Sicilian lentil pasta
>Pasta e fagioli (Pasta and beans)

I'm not strictly vegan but I try to limit dairy intake so not a fan of very creamy/cheesy dishes.

>>21468343
I'm from Naples. There are a lot of dishes that we have that are vegan or vegetarian. I'm curious what Sicilian pasta with lentils is and how it differs from what we cook. Ours is simple: cook lentils plain and set aside.
Add lentils, their cooking water and additional water as needed to a pot or saucepan.
Add garlic cloves, smashed flat and olive oil.
Set to boil; set, also, a kettle to boil.
Allow to boil, stirring occasionally, until reduced; this allows the lentils to cast off a lot of starch and turn into a creamy, sauce-like texture.
Add boiling kettle water and salt.
Add small shaped or broken pasta.
Boil until pasta is cooked and liquid is reduced, thick and creamy.
Stir in sweet parsley and serve.
It's the simplest thing on earth.

>>21468343
Pasta e ceci. Pesto and pasta salads are pretty great too.

>>21468495
>I'm curious what Sicilian pasta with lentils is
I'm not Italian so it's just the name of the recipe I follow online. You just saute veg, add tomato paste, garlic, and spice. Then add in vegetable broth and the lentils and simmer. Add cooked pasta at the end with some of the water.
It's probably not very authentic. Your recipe sounds better so I'll try that out

>>21468518
this looks good

>>21464322
Freeze/thaw extra firm tofu, boil in salted water and also press it, cornstarch it some (add onion/garlic powder if you feel like it), fry in less oil than you'd think. This is as close as I've gotten to tofu having similar texture to the stuff I like at hole-in-the-wall Chinese places. I serve it with sesame ginger sauce but you can do whatever you like.
>>21466025
I like tempeh but can't justify the price diff between it and tofu. What gives?

>>21469320
Jesus. Maybe it's because I like in what is basically Little Java but tempeh, and that specific brand at that, is only $1. I can get organic, superfirm high protein tofu for 30¢/lb so even if I liked tempeh (I don't), I still wouldn't buy it

>>21467724
i have started eating chickpeas every morning after workout and barely fart

>>21464493
It would indeed be a waste. Just eat it all then buy wtv you want after.

>>21461615
Yes, even great men can have flaws.

>>21467776
Yeah, I always scrutinize any sort of advertisement for meat and dairy, whose industry isn't weak. Not even a vegetarian, and I love dairy, but it's obvious that a lot of it's gonna be biased and funded (even by gov subsidies).
A vegan/vegetarian diet is perfectly fine imo, with only minor concerns perhaps requiring external supplements, although I wonder if something like mushrooms could do just as well. Idk, doesn't really concern me.

>>21461477 (OP)
Just take a piece of shit and put it in your mouth. That is THE vegan experience!!!

>>21467724
I eat all sorts of beans (and chickpeas) and have no issues. Just gotta eat em for like a week to get your body adjusted to it when they've never been a part of your diet. Could say the same with certain vegetables.

>>21469337
What's puzzling to me is that at places I've been to where you pick your protein tempeh and tofu are the same price tier. Maybe the secret is Asian grocery stores or make it yourself.

shhhieeeettt

>>21468036
The problem is that in the US and most of Europe like 99% of all meat consumption is from factory farming. The amount of people who only eat hunted wild game or even free range, organic, grass fed, grass finished meat and NEVER eat fast food is effectively zero, maybe this describes some Amish and some tiny indigenous tribes but that's about it. For all intents and purposes animal agriculture = factory farming.

>>21469405
Maybe, but a friend of mine gets tempeh from the wypipo supermarket for that $1 pricetag. I get my tofu at Safeway (personal price; normal is $2.49, but I get it for $1.80 and they always give me $3 off produce coupons, which works on tofu for some reason, so two blocks of tofu = $3.60 - $3 discount = 60¢ for two pounds).
Tofu is generally cheaper at Asian supermarkets if couponing is difficult for you at wypipo stores.

>>21469412
anon is not one of us

>>21465669
When I cooked for a vegetarian regularly, I boiled that, then drained, boiled again, then fried in some oil with spices (iirc, paprika, soy sauce, garlic powder, onion powder) till it started popping in the pan. A bit lengthy but it produced a pretty good result I would put into pasta sauces and stuff.

>>21470031
i started eating iron supplements and now i shit bricks despite eating plum puree, chia seeds and magnesium citrate

>>21470748
you need to eat more fibre dude

>>21470748
What kind of iron are you taking? I had really low iron despite eating meat and iron bisglycinate works well for me but I've heard other forms cause more severe digestive issues.

>>21470761
im taking the one that isn't 1 € a pill
>>21470753
i eat oat porridge every morning

>>21470764
>im taking the one that isn't 1 € a pill
The iron bisglycinate I take is 9 cents per pill.

>>21470765
>iron bisglycinate
thats what i have

I hate brown rice.

IT'S SCRAPING AGAINST MY TEETH AGAIN

>>21470772
What's the dosage? Mine is 20mg and I can see it in my poop sometimes but I don't get constipated or anything. Are you taking it with vitamin C to increase absorption?

You can also take it every other day, that increases your absorption because your body tones down how much iron it'll absorb for 24-48 hours after dosing. Also take it on an empty stomach in the morning if you're not doing that already because you don't want it mixed with food that can inhibit iron absorption like milk or beans/grains.

>>21464447
Tahini mixed with non dairy yogurt

>>21464332
Depending on what you are making, lentils, chopped mushrooms, or beans could work. It depends on the dish. Lentils are great in shepherd's pie; mushrooms are excellent in lasagna, and black beans go in anything Tex-Mex.
>>21469388
I've always had a varied diet with a lot of eggs, cheese, mushrooms, sprouted grains, etc. so I guess I wasn't really lacking in the first place. The typical person who actually cares what they eat is probably going to be healthier than someone on the SAD unless they are doing something totally retarded like keto.
>>21469412
Blood Builder is a gentle iron supplement that is well absorbed; ask your doctor to avoid incorrect dosing.
>>21464493
Just don't purchase more.
>>21467724
>Beans and Chickpeas make you fart alot
Skill issue.

>>21461615
even leftoids are starting to understand he may have had a point

>>21474012
>as a terminally online 4channer, let me tell you what you actually think about hitler

>>21474020
i literally live in portland and i hear it with my ears in real life. in the outside world. the word "zionist" is used the same as the word "nigger" is among leftoids
>t. leftoid

>>21474031
In real life, and not in your psychopathic right wing circles, disagreeing with the genocidal activities of the israeli terrorist state does not equate to wanting to kill jews, that's your AIPAC propaganda speaking

>>21461477 (OP)
Vegetarian and vegan diets are so different that I don't know why anyone would make a general for both of them

>>21474042
>not in your psychopathic right wing circles
oh yes the infamous right-winged hellhole of portland oregon. do you read what you type before you hit send?

>>21474042
Nah, l live in a liberal hellhole and have to associate with leftists all the time and they really do hate Jews, they just know better than to say that so they use the weasel word zionist. The things they say about "zionists" are all the old neo nazis and /pol/tard talking points except with zionist in place of the slurs for Jews. It's been really weird to see all these tolerant peace and love leftists become rabid antisemites who want the destruction of zionists and the zionist state.

>>21474107
Because a thread for only one cannot survive, so we cling together lest we perish apart.

>>21474107
We are united by missing out on eating s'mores.

>>21476013
I don't like s'mores but why would anyone miss out on them because of diet? Y'know there are vegetarian/vegan marshmallows and vegan chocolate, right?