Anyone else find pho pretty underwhelming?

It’s supposed to be something light and mild for breakfast or a wholesome snack, Blane the white piggus for hyping it up as something it’s not.

Tell us what your expectations were so we can laugh at you

Yes. Its flavor is delicate and complex but its ceiling of how good it can be is much lower than ramen (the “other” noodle soup that most people might compare it to)

>>21465200
>ramen (the “other” noodle soup that most people might compare it to)
these people are called ‘retards’ and we pay them no mind

>>21465206
Why exactly is it retarded to compare the two?

For me it pho satay

>>21465187
this. granted there's a lot of meh pho, and i dont eat it in the summer because who wants hot soup when its 100 outside, but pho and ramen are staples for me in the winter.

>>21465230
Idk man, comparing to things to each other because they’re superficially similar seems pretty retarded to me. Would you compare a casserole to lasagna? Beer to iced tea? Your mom to a donkey?

>>21465200
>Its flavor is delicate and complex
What a load of cope.

In Japan, chicken broth is often used, so pho is often served cold in summer.
It is very tasty when chilled, as the citrus acidity and other flavors become more pronounced.

>>21465184 (OP)
I've never had it, but it sure sounds over hyped.

>>21465286
cold pho is vile

>>21465336
Isn't that because it's beef broth?

>>21465184 (OP)
never had it but it just looks like a worse version of ramen

>>21465358
That's precisely what it is.

I like pho well enough it but I'm a weak little bitch who hates cilantro and I'm too ashamed to order it without it :(

>>21465184 (OP)
Like if there were an opposite of "overwhelming"? Like if one could just be "whelmed", but less?

Fuck off with that nonsense. Pho is always better than expected and more awesome than any other restaurant soup or noodles.

>>21465239
Fuck off, weeb faggot. You don't get to have strong opinions on foreign foods.

>>21465200
>>21465358
Ramen is unbelievably overrated. Its restaurants are always packed with hipsters and influencers, while pho restaurants are filled with working class families. Most reliable heuristic for determining which noodle soup is ass.

>>21465433
Typical American, they think that it’s cool and noble to maintain absolutely 0 understanding of other cultures. I guess that’s what happened when you can’t cope with having no culture yourselves.

>>21465235
>who wants hot soup when its 100 outside

I will never understand this. It's 90 and humid here and I'll gladly sit outside and enjoy a bowl of scorching hot and spicy chili.

ramen isn't even the best or even second best japanese noodle

>mogs the fuck out of pho and ramen

>>21465184 (OP)
I used to dislike pho until I found a place that did it right. Every place before that either the broth was good and the noodles sucked or the broth sucked and the noodles were good. The place that finally did both right was a little Hawaiian bbq joint run by a Chinese woman from Hong Kong.

ya i much prefer this

Yes. The best soup is laksa

I was in Cambodia filming a gnarly vid for my youtube channel. Got a bowl of pho from a street vendor who looked like he hadn't bathed since 1974. I watched in awe as he pulled water straight from the Mekong River using a bucket that contained naturally fermented fish head residue and added the noodles, fresh grass, and a spring onion that he wrestled from the mouth of a local wild hog. Needles to say, I was blown away by the complexity of the flavors.

>>21465751
those aren't even noodles

>>21465761
Thanks Anthony Bourdain

>>21465235
you do realize pho was invented in a country near the equator where it's almost always hot

>>21465790
>bun
>none of this is even bread
other languages are so stupid, just call it soup

>>21465794
Wait till you hear what Singaporeans refer to as "carrot cake" lol

>>21465550
perhaps the only upside of being a pretentious faggot is that you tend to consooom better things, even if completely by accident

>>21465878
The most authentic and original version of the Mexican stew "pozole" used human meat. It currently uses pork, because pork was said to match human meat the closest in flavor and texture.

>>21465550
>talking about ramen and pho in America
Retard. Ramen is 100% a working class food in both their respective countries

>>21465930
Conversely, wait till you hear about how McDonald's and Pizza Hut are perceived in East Asia.

>"it's white people food so it's more luxurious"

>>21465184 (OP)
I like the texture of rice noodles a lot. I don't much care for traditional pho though. They're tastier with a much lighter broth than beef.

>>21465184 (OP)
Why have pho when you could have phive?

>>21465187
nta but I've seen many people describe it as "ramen but better"

bun bo hue is where it's at

>>21465184 (OP)
pho sho

>>21465184 (OP)
Underwhelming? No. I think it's a very good soup with a nice complex flavor, not super heavy either. HOWEVER, the amount of fucking morons who hyped pho up to the point of its current popularity should branch out a bit

>>21465550
The poorest Japanese people are the ones who live in Japan and they all eat ramen

>>21465184 (OP)
I think you confused Pho with Ramen. I can eat pho daily and not get sick of it, Ramen I'm done after a day or two. Japanese are way to subtle and light on flavor. I like foods with more character like Pho. The king of Vietnamese soups tho is Bun Bo Hue but that noodle soup will filter 90% of the normies on /ck/.

>>21465286
>In Japan
>chicken broth
>so pho is often served cold in summer.
None of this has any connection with each other. The most common broths for ramen is shoyu, miso, and tonkotsu. Cold "ramen" is called somen. Pho isnt that popular in Japan, I've never even seen a restaurant.

>>21466056
instant or cooked?

>>21465883
Bullshit.

>>21465946
Yes, that clear consomme beef broth they use sure is *heavy*.


NOT

yes, it's a very mid meme soup
for some reason this is the only soup in abundance in america, even though just plain chicken pea soup is miles ahead and doesn't require chopsticks
asian soups were a mistake

>>21465184 (OP)
I like pho, it's great for lunch. So no, I find it to be just right. I dunno what you tards expect from it. It's just beef broth with rice noodles and your choice of meat slices and plants/spices added.

>>21466246
my father and uncle like to go out for pho, last two times i went and was treated to a LARGE bowl of the stuff, didnt even eat the rest of the day

>>21466205
>chicken pea soup
Disgusting.

The reason pho/ramen took over America is we have very little "soup" vendors. Soup is literally an after thought for most restaurants, typically done as a small side or appetizer. So no one was doing soup a main dish. And I will add those selling soup as a side were charging WAY too much for it - like $5-7 for a little ass bowl. So of COURSE ramen and pho came in and beat the fuck out of everyone when they offered large bowls of soup for like $10-12.

This is a shame, because a lot of restaurants have GREAT soup. You just can't ever fucking get a god damn bowl of it, it's got to be this tiny ass cup that is half a serving of soup. The closest we get is Olive Garden shit with unlimited soup and salad, which you'd need to get a fucking full portion of soup from the little cups they give you. Even the grocery store caps out their large as half the size of a pho bowl. We just can't compete.

It's always the Asian places that make meal sized soups properly. And for some reason, America never adapted that shit to our soups/stews.

Pho is fucking delicious and your taste buds are fried if you can't appreciate a good pho, willing to bet most of you pho haters don't eat vegetables

yeah it's mid
also there's too much liquid

and I hate how they serve it with chopsticks. chopsticks are retarded. I hate seeing all the white people LARPing in public by using them. even when we are not in asia

>>21466120
In what world is ramen light on flavor? It's more diverse than pho desu senpai

>>21466314
>In what world is ramen light on flavor? It's more diverse than pho desu senpai
least delusional weeb, discontinue the lithium you fag

>>21466265
>The reason pho/ramen took over America is we have very little "soup" vendors.
>And I will add those selling soup as a side were charging WAY too much for it - like $5-7 for a little ass bowl.
this is correct
>You just can't ever fucking get a god damn bowl of it, it's got to be this tiny ass cup that is half a serving of soup.
I have no idea why US restaurant charge full entree price for a small bowl of soup
>And for some reason, America never adapted that shit to our soups/stews.
I have no idea why
pho is made of small amount of shit meat, noodles and nothing much else, you aren't getting anything particularly nutritious
A fucking $1.5 canned chicken soup is almost catching up to pho in terms of taste, I refuse to believe it's more expensive to produce a normal soup than pho

>>21465184 (OP)
>Boil beef in Christmas flavored water
>Velly good! Fifty dorra cậu bé da trắng!
Yeah nah pho sucks ass, Vietnamese food sucks ass.

>>21465239
Lasagna is literally a casserole. How about I compare your brain to a pile of shit; the pile of shit is much more intelligent.

>>21466364
okay we get it, flyover-san

>>21466374
I live in Houston, with the most Vietnamese people in America. Suck my chode, Bao, your boiled beef soup is garbage.

>>21466382
Oh we have the third most viets. Still, there's a ton of you bastards here.

>>21465184 (OP)
Sinigang mogs it

>>21466382
>I live in Houston
ooof, you people tried to secede from the US, so basically you and your kin are fucking retards so your opinions on food are basically worthless

>>21466382
I lived in Houston, now I live in California. Cali sucks, but in no way would I ever move back to your shithole.

P.S. we also have vietnamese.

>>21466314
You clearly never had a truly GREAT Pho nor different styles of it. Also, there are far better noodle soups in Asia that mogs the shit out of Japanese ramen.

>>21465944
Maybe this was true in the 80s when those chains first came to Japan, your knowledge is decades old

>>21465184 (OP)
No. I fucking love pho.

>>21466198
It's likely true, sorry mexibro

>>21466136
Hahaha, there are so many lies that I laugh lmao
Who taught you such a lie?

>>21465184 (OP)
It's missing a monkey head

>>21466795
I still think pizza is too expensive, also hot dogs, tacos, kebabs, etc.
A 10 inch pizza is over $10, and ramen noodles that take about 5 hours to make the broth is under $7.

However, McDonald's started selling hamburgers in 2000 at about $0.6 per dollar-yen exchange rate, and since then hamburgers have been recognized as inexpensive food.

>>21466319
>>21466758
I've had plenty of pho and prefer Vietnamese to jap food. Ramen is still a better and more versatile soup

>>21466319
>>21466758
The best pho is better than mediocre ramen, but the US basically has no good ramen places. The best ramen is on another planet from pho.

>>21465431
>Like if there were an opposite of "overwhelming"

YOU MEAN LIKE 'UNDERWHELMING' YOU MASSIVE DICTIONARYLET.

>soup :|
>soup with a funny name :O
gee, boiled water with salt

>>21465239
Nta but all Asian cultures can be compared at random
Chicken rice dish
>Pho ga ko (Viet)
>Hainan chicken rice (Chinese)
>Khao man gai (thai)
Soup and meat
>Beef boat noodl (thai)
>Pho (Viet)
>Beef noodle soup (Chinese, the one with the ass ton of tendons and oil in it )
Although comparing which is better since more often than not I think it's a matter of preference rather than something being better or worse

>>21467841
Take the smug, pretentious dildo out of your shitbox

>>21465184 (OP)
>lets add shitty cilantro everywhere
No thanks. I'll stick with based lamein and ramen
I'll take chilislop and porkslop over herbslop

>>21467845
Who's being pretentious
I'm saying anon is valid to compare them
Just that I don't believe in "better or worse" because some people just prefer this or that

I love it for hangovers, or sometimes I just order the broth to make a congee later on