Some bad examples I'm aware of:

>Japanese + Chinese using ketchup in "Italian" food
>Japanese using a British (kek) recipe for "Indian" curry
>Americans using broccoli in "Chinese" food
>Americans using xtra-sharp cheddar in "Mexican" food
>Americans using pineapple in "Italian" pizza

One good example I'm aware of is Peru and their Chinese-origin "chifa" cuisine, such as lomo saltado.

>>21465491 (OP)
>Americans using xtra-sharp cheddar in "Mexican" food
yup and it's better than mexican tacos

>>21465491 (OP)
American pizza is better than Italian pizza. Italian-American sandwiches are better than Italian sandwiches.

>>21465491 (OP)
>>Americans using xtra-sharp cheddar in "Mexican" food
>>Americans using pineapple in "Italian" pizza
The American version is better than both instances. The little pussy boy is too weak to handle extra sharp cheese? In America we have every type of topping for pizza and not just a lonely basil leaf on shitty burnt wheat flour bread. It's basically cheese bread. You are a complete moron.

>>21465491 (OP)
>>Americans using pineapple in "Italian" pizza
actually Canadian, same with putting pineapple on a burger(both are good)

>>21465491 (OP)
>Americans using pineapple in "Italian" pizza
They don't, though. They use it on American pizza. They think we don't even have pineapple pizza in Italy (we do).
Honestly, I much prefer my westernised version of bibimbap over the authentic. Simply put, I don't like fernbrake, mung sprouts or whatever doraji is called in English (it's a root) as toppings and much prefer the ones I use (carrot, a leafy green, red cabbage and either baby corn or yellow courgette).
I prefer Americanised sushi to authentic.
I like peranakan Chinese food more than mainland.
I like Mexicanised shawarma more than the real one (pork>lamb).
I think that's about it.

>>21465491 (OP)
Viennese cuisine is basically a mashup of regional cuisines of the Austrian Empire. It's actually really good.
Belgian cuisine is another example. They've been fighting a losing battle for independence throughout history only to come out victorious in the end. Almost all of their classic dishes contain elements from abroad which they improved out of necessity.
Ragout is a French sauce brought to Italy by Napoleon. The Italians did their own thing with it. The French introduced tomatoes in Italy, which were inedible ornamental plants at the time. The Italians cross-bred them (a Belgian technique) until they became delicious. The Belgians came up with tame pigs and cured ham by cross-breeding wild boar. But it were the Italians who perfected the art of curing ham.
Ceviche is an Arabic, maybe Persian invention which made its way into Spain, and later Peru. There's no doubt Peruvians improved the dish and made it their own.
Both the Italians and Dutch managed to produce far better chocolate than anyone else could.
French discipline and organization in the kitchen allows anyone anywhere on the planet to produce better, healthier, safer food nowadays.
Plenty more examples. Alphonso mangoes were unknown in the west until a decade ago. Same goes for Tangerines, Yuzu, Kampot pepper, grains of paradise etc. Even seaweed varieties. I mean, these are some exciting times we live in.

>>21465525
>be Canadian
>have your own kind of "bacon"
>literally just ham

imagine having a cuisine literally worse than the US

>>21465491 (OP)
Vietnamese food after france colonized them is better than pre colonization. Also American pizza is better than Italian

>>21465491 (OP)
>inauthentic bastardizations
The problem is that if it’s any good, people start recognizing it as it’s own dish.

Anyways, ramen. The dish evolved from Chinese noodle dishes in the early 1900’s, and became popular in Japan post WW2. Yet it’s way more popular than the Chinese dishes it was derived from.
Honestly I don’t think people would hold Japanese food in high regard if it weren’t for ramen.

>>21465615
Agree on #1, banh mi slaps. Unsure what the true original is, but it's certainly a lot better than croque monsieur or Jersey Mike's.

As for #2 it might be one of the most retarded takes ever. America gave us such atrocities as meat pizza, chicken BBQ pizza, pepperoni pizza, any "Mexican" variety of pizza, Caesar salad pizza, and Domino's with their cheesy crust.

The good kinds of "American" pizza I've had have been, like, this thing called "pizza alfresco" with arugula and cherry tomatoes. But IDK how American or Italian it was. It was at some "American" tavern rather than some enchanted romantic wine Italian date spot.

I once had some pastry in a Chinese (kek) bakery though called "Osaka pizza", and it had stuff like pork floss and octopus shreds on top. Can't remember if it were true pizza or some variation of what I now know to be okonomiyaki, though.

>>21465779
pizza with salami
>Delizioso! Traditional ITALIANO dish.
pizza with pepperoni
>MAMMA MIA!!!!!! WHAT HAVEA YOUA DONE????

Meanwhile Eurocels are committing culinary war crimes just a few countries away.

>>21465837
I don't see any salami are you fucking blind

"Italian" sandwiches in the New York area can actually slap if done right though

>>21465516
I like that ground beef is "taco meat" instead of just taco meat, at least this image is honest about one thing and it's that authentic spic shit is made with roadkill.

>>21465879
The most authentic and original version of the Mexican stew "pozole" used human meat. It currently uses pork, because pork was said to match human meat the closest in flavor and texture.

>>21465575
It was an export for when the UK had a bacon shortage. They didn't eat it much historically.

>>21465887
"Long Pork" exists as a term in many Polynesian cultures as a joke reference to human meat too
Ancient Hawaiians used to exile menstruating women to huts in the outskirts of the village until their cycle ended

>>21465491 (OP)
>Are there any inauthentic bastardized versions of food BETTER than the originals?
Most of them. See all italian and mexican food in America

>>21467810
>Ancient Hawaiians used to exile menstruating women to huts in the outskirts of the village until their cycle ended
A lot of cultures did this. It's described in the old testament.

indian dishes outside of india are always better than indian dishes inside of india
>>21467815
mexico is in america

>>21467838
Not for long
>>21467820
We need to bring this tradition back

>>21465491 (OP)
literally all italian dishes are made 10x better outside italy.

>>21467815
tex-mex is fucking garbage compared to actual mexican food

but you wouldn't know since you clearly haven't tasted it

>>21467868
It's a bit arrogant to say that.

I think Italian pasta is better than our pasta.

I think our pizza is up to par but I am sure someone that fell for the "they put too much cheese in it" meme will disagree. (Wrong, fugazzetta is not our only style, tourist videos meme too much about it, you can get all sorts of different types of pizza here I don't know why they always drag tourists to the meme places)

However, and I will die on this hill, we make better gelatto/ice cream than the Italians and the best in the world.

t. argie

>>21467868
It's arrogant and unfair towards Italy to say that.

I think Italian pasta is better than our pasta. (Which is, nevertheless, very good)

I think our pizza is up to par but I am sure someone that fell for the "they put too much cheese in it" meme will disagree. (Wrong, fugazzetta is not our only style, tourist videos meme too much about it, you can get all sorts of different types of pizza here I don't know why they always drag tourists to the meme places)

However, and I will die on this hill, we make better gelato/ice cream than the Italians and the best in the world.

t. argie

>>21465491 (OP)
Aussie chicken parma. Better than American chicken parma due to the addition of ham

>>21465491 (OP)
Americanized sushi rolls that have cream cheese and are deep fried and smothered in sauce

>>21468143
We call that a Milanesa Napolitana (de pollo).

>>21465491 (OP)
>>Japanese using a British (kek) recipe for "Indian" curry
brits invented curry though, and they're also the ones that brought it to japan.

>>21467916
lol

>>21465519
Can you read? Do you have that ability?

>>21468253
Do you?

>>21467916
This looks like someone puked on a flatbread

>>21467916
Based knower. Every time someone says they hate mexican food it becomes apparent they think taco bell is authentic mexican food and that is all they've ever had.

>>21468289
It's Oaxaca's local cuisine. Here's Yucatan's.

Mexico is a big country.

>>21465516
I honestly prefer sliced flank steak over ground beef, but that's just me. Ground beef is for burgers.

>>21468332
That looks much better. I will now try your Yucatan food.

>>21468482
IIRC Oaxaca is like one of Mexico's poorest, highest indigenous-populated states, but also having the best/most unique cuisine.

>>21468346
>Ground chuck is for burgers.

>>21468555
There's a lot of great indiginous mexican food to try. Good Mezcal and tequila is amazing also.

>>21468332
>>21468555
>>21468639
it's crazy people will say stuff like this and then disregard 90% of american cuisine because joe normie doesn't eat it right here right now
the average person doesn't even know what gumbo or brunswick stew or softshell sandwich or tilky or akutaq or piki or pawpaw is, but if you count indigenous mexican foods as mexican foods alongside the newer population then you gotta count everything in the US too.

>>21468691
>american cuisine
Oh my sides.

>>21468691
The only reason I mention such things is because mexican food gets undue hate from ignorant people. Similar to how >>21468713 is acting.

Carolina gold rice is probably my all time favorite rice and I'm a rice autist.

>>21468691
I do associate Cajun food and gumbo with the USA. I think it's the best American food, in fact.

>>21468737
>I do associate Cajun food and gumbo with the USA
not to be anal about it but cajun is literally an ethnic group that is exclusively found in the us, so of course you'd associate the two

>>21465870
>"Italian" sandwiches in the New York area can actually slap if done right though
you have no idea just how good things really are

>>21465491 (OP)

Curry Beef - curry is delicious with beef, I also pretty much like every culture's version of curry than India's (too mushy)

Butter Chicken Pizza - butter chicken is delicious because it's not mush like curry, it's so savoury, it goes great with crispy pizza -- and pizza goes better with it than naan because naan would be too greasy.

Butter Chicken sauce with onions -- I'm told this is 'inauthentic' but it's delicious, I'm used to just adding the VH Butter Chicken sauce to rice, I tried some authentic Indian brand Butter Chicken sauce, I think the brand stared with S, it tasted very sour and was much more reddish with colour, I couldn't even finish it, it was also much more textured.

Pineapples on Pizza, with ham and bacon -- The Canadian

Avocado with Salmon Sushi, I'm sorry nips, but I can't eat salmon sushi without Avocado.

Tex Mexlike Taco Bell's Fries Supreme: ground beef, diced tomatoes, sour cream, "cheese" sauce from cheese gun, green chives?

>>21465516
for me, it's fiesta blend

>>21465491 (OP)
>Indian curry vs bongified Indian curry
Obviously.

>fried chicken + batter
The general claim is Scotland invented deep fried chicken but the burgers threw on the batter and spices+herbs via their slavecooks and that's an undeniable improvement.

>Mararoni (and) cheese
The english making a slop version of pasta.

>>21468332
>>21467916
This does not look very good.

>>21465491 (OP)
All texmex is better than mexican """food"""

>>21468143
Australia does everything better so I'm not surprised

y'all clearly never heard of sushipleto
desu i'd rather poke my ass hair and eat it after a long day of work. just wanted to mention it to let it out.

>>21465779
>atrocities
>meat pizza
?

>>21470099
Especially hot dogs

>>21465491 (OP)
Overall the best pizza in the world is in America. Nearly all American styles are better than Italian.

The best Italian pizza in the world is in Japan and they regularly win the global competitions

>>21470199
>Overall the best pizza in the world is in America. Nearly all American styles are better than Italian.
Delulu

>muh global pizza competitions
Absolute meme

American made sushi (California Roll) good

>>21465491 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2g25pWZZYU
Bangcock BK
>Replace hamburger buns with 2 blocks of cheese.

>>21465643
>The dish evolved from Chinese noodle dishes in the early 1900’s,
pretty sure noodles themselves were imported from dynastical china from the Tangs
https://www.worldhistory.org/image/6772/sea-routes-from-ancient-japan-to-china/
IIRC from some other history books IRL, Tangers even sent peasant farmers to Okinawa(used to be Ryukuu Kingdom).

and in modern times, egg fried rice is still somehow recognised as a chinese dish in chinese restaurants in japan. even though nippon also made similar fried rice dishes.

Americans didn't make Chinese food with broccoli
Chinese immigrants used broccoli instead of gai lan to make their Chinese food and they sold it in their Chinese restaurants

>>21470464
It’s a ragebait thread anon

>>21470464
That sounds like Americans made Chinese food with broccoli to me.

>>21470190
where's the onions?

>>21465516
Taco Friday

>poor, smelly peasants come to America
>Bring their peasant dishes
>Over a generation or two poor smelly peasant dishes shed their cultural trappings
>Improved peasant dish can also be made with a much wider variety of ingredients
>Poor smelly mad peasants that didnt make it here cope
The eternal seething of third worlders is almost as good a seasoning as Tonys

>>21470616
>ragebait
anybody who uses this term is a troon or soyboy

>>21470381
>>21470392
Why are East Asians so autistic about who came up with what? I mean all countries are like this but not on this level.

>>21468298
i enjoy both, although GOOD mexican food is superior

>>21470346
>I wish it wasn't true so lololool and I can't afford to travel so lololol

you're funny and edgy

>>21469263
kys faggot

>>21465643
>Honestly I don’t think people would hold Japanese food in high regard if it weren’t for ramen.
I can't agree with that at all. I'm old enough to remember a time when most westerners had never even heard of real ramen (only the instant poverty kind) and you had to go to one of very few Japanese diaspora areas to find the real deal, and yet Japanese food was still very highly regarded, mostly because of sushi. Actually, I think the whole Japanese food scene in the US was better back then, you could find tons of little family-owned Japanese restaurants that did katsu, tempura, various bento, etc., while nowadays it seems like there's nothing but mediocre ramen and shit sushi served in IKEA-esque surroundings.

>>21472908
I heard it's because most Japanese restaurants in the US are run by Chinese

Not surprising considering how much more Chinese there are in the US vs. Japanese

Gee I wonder who could've done that

>>21465575
only ham in the sense both ham and bacon are pork, yes. americans wish they had real bacon though. you faggots eat streaky belly pork which is 90% fat (like yourselves), opposed to everyone else who eats back bacon that has meat in it

>>21465516
Please unalive

>>21465779
This post has to be rage bait, no one is this retarded

>>21470190
Aussies shitposting food like they have anything to offer, lol, lmao even

>>21472943
>Chinese
Actually Koreans, which makes sense, since generally Koreans are like Japanese from the dollar store.

>>21473472
brainrot

>>21473480
to be fair hotdogs are better on lightbread than buns, higher meat:bread ratio

>>21473484
Feel like every Asian race is either Chinese from the dollar store or Japanese from the dollar store

Depends on which side of the bed I wake up on

>>21467810
>>21467820
They still do this in a lot of Himalayan regions.

>>21468332
something similar to this this is at 90% of mexican restaurants

>>21465491 (OP)
b8

>>21468287
No

Japanese wienerschnitzel > original wienerschnitzel from Italy

Japanese curry > Indian curry

Japanese hambaga > American hamburger

Japanese hangabu > American salisbury steak

Japanese ramen > Chinese ramen

Japanese butakimchi > Korean kimchi pork

>>21474676
Agree with all of these apart from curry

Though India has a loose defo of "curry"

>>21465491 (OP)
Personally, I've started adding gochujang as a thickener and spice to basically every tomato based sauce I make now. Even stews. It's a instant flavor enhancer.

I also make an extremely cursed one-pot """""pasta al burro"""" as a comfort food:
1. cook any "short" (i.e. bowtie, rotini, macaroni, etc.) protein noodles 2 minutes under recommended time (longer pasta will usually break if cooked this shortly, and you need a large pot to make it usually)
2. drain with the lid of the pot, saving a few tbsp of pasta water
3. add a shitton of olive oil, garlic butter, crushed black pepper, and any grated hard cheese
4. mix thoroughly till emulsified
i usually eat this dish with any steamed or raw veggies I have so I don't shit myself after eating a whole pot of it

for me it's american style swedish meatballs with beef instead of horse and egg noodles instead of boiled potato.

>>21474676
>Japanese wienerschnitzel > original wienerschnitzel from Italy
Wrong
>Japanese curry > Indian curry
Right
>Japanese hambaga > American hamburger
Wrong
>Japanese hangabu > American salisbury steak
Right
>Japanese ramen > Chinese ramen
Right
>Japanese butakimchi > Korean kimchi pork
Wrong

>>21468143
>ham above the chicken
>slice of pineapple above the ham
>cheese on top
glorious

>>21471471
banned due to potential slippage

>>21465491 (OP)
Carbonara using store bought carbonara sauce > Carbonara

>>21475098
>be me, ca. 2008
>chinese autistic preschooler roped into horse birthday party by femautist classmate
>go to ikea and mcdonald's a few times with parents
>later visit the place on my own with mom only fsfr
>me: "ms. stablewoman, what happens to horses when they die?"
>ms. stablewoman: "oh, anon, some parts are used for glue, other parts are used for food, and..."
>me: "wait, people eat horse meat?"
>ms. stablewoman: "yes, people eat horse meat. dyk that ikea's swedish meatballs have horse meat in them?"
>me: "no, ms. stablewoman, i DIDN'T know ikea's swedish meatballs have horse meat in them!"
>ms. stablewoman: "oh, you sweet summer child, anon... they did a whole investigation into it, you wouldn't believe the SHEER amount of drugs they put into those horses"
>me: "holy fucking shit"
>ms. stablewoman: "but it's true! oh yeah, a lot of mcdonald's hamburgers have horse meat in them too!"

and well, mom was there the whole time, watching me get lectured by some granola lady while looping around some enclosure on a pony.

later at home she was like "hey anon, did that lady say something about ikea meatballs?"

and i was like "no", and it never came up again

>>21465491 (OP)
the only ones that have any merit are broccoli and pineapple and those are just sidegrades

I think poutine is an improvement over cheesy chips and gravy but I'm pretty sure they were conceived independently of eachother

>>21472588
This is nothing compared to Western countries wanting to claim everything.

>>21477283
On that note a California special, carne asada fries

>>21474935
>Personally, I've started adding gochujang as a thickener and spice to basically every tomato based sauce I make now. Even stews. It's a instant flavor enhancer.

I do the same with soy sauce, a little bit goes everywhere. Should try gochujang but it's a bit expensive here.

>>21474935
Disgusting. There's way better tasting asian umami sources than gochujang. Try adding a dried shiitake mushroom or two. Powder or rehydrated.

>>21476658
High effort and good post

>>21477340
nobody does that outside of /pol/ sperging

>>21477681
arizona variant, cowboy fries

>Japanese soy sauce in Chinese food
>Chinese soy sauce in Japanese food
>MSG in American food

>>21465575
>be poorfag
>confuse the loin with leg because you've only ever had meat glued boneless tubes of ham
makes me feel smug every time desu

>>21481918
I concur

>>21480489
if I were Mexican I'd put a (metaphorical) bullet through your fucking skull

>>21482656
rude

>>21465779
Best bahn mi i ever had was some random lady selling it outside the hanoi airport. Had some kind of chicken and egg and really good vegetables. shit went so hard

>>21465491 (OP)
bri'ish indian food
any americanized mexican food

>>21468713
mogs beanslop

>>21472706
I've been all across Europe and the Americas buddy. Pizza competitions are a meme like most of those international food competitions.

>>21465491 (OP)
"Authentic food" is completely made up bullshit. All popular foods have foreign origins to some extent or another, and there is no reason whatsoever to care about preserving some kind of culinary "tradition".

>>21473240
Fat is flavor.

>>21465491 (OP)
every American version is better than the traditional
>pizza
bigger, more meat, more toppings. not pretentious cheese basil flatbread like in Italy
>Mexican
burritos are uniquely American
>Chinese
real Chinese food sucks ass except for dumplings. Americans invented the hearty fried rice, chow mein and popular meat dishes
>Japanese
bigger sushi rolls, more toppings and sauces. traditional sushi is bland and boring
>indian
more meat, less poop. actual Indian food in India is mostly cow dung and lentils with 50% volume in seasoning

I really can't think of any popular "ethnic" food that doesn't have a superior bastardized American version. maybe middle eastern, there is not much to improve upon a good shawarma wrap

>>21483667
>real Chinese food sucks ass except for dumplings.
Bros never had hotpot or peking duck.

>>21465491 (OP)
Australia took poutine and gave the world the Halal Snack Pack.

>>21483670
dirty arabs did that, not australians

>>21483635
So you got the shitty version of Italian pizza if you never went to Japan

>>21483667
>pizza
argentinian pizza mogs american pizza due to the high quality of the cheeses. italian pizza mogs american pizza due to the high quality of the dough.

>Mexican
>burritos are uniquely American
mole poblano alone mogs all american tex-mex.

>Chinese
>real Chinese food sucks ass except for dumplings. Americans invented the hearty fried rice, chow mein and popular meat dishes
you've never had real chinese food in your life
chinese cuisine has plenty of popular meat dishes
char siu is cantonese and mogs your chinese takeout food

>Japanese
>bigger sushi rolls, more toppings and sauces. traditional sushi is bland and boring
you've never had japanese food in your life. the sign of a japanlet is only talking about sushi, it shows a huge ignorance of the wide range of dishes in japanese cuisine. please refer to pic.
american food and japanese food should never be uttered in the same sentence. it's not even a competition.

>indian
i have no experience with real indian food so i don't know.

>>21483689
>Ramen and rice cakes
Wow you sure opened my eyes to real Japanese cuisine. I totally have never had those in the Japanese neighborhood down the street from me.

Italian dough is a joke. Anyone anywhere can use 00 dough and make a better pizza than Italian slop. Zaatar manakeesh is better than Italian pizza and predates it by thousands of years.

Real Chinese food is literally dog fried in gutter oil, rhino horn dust and monkey brains. Chinese people are so poor it's normalized to eat cats and dogs

Even white people tacos are better than most Mexican dishes but I will admit the true street tacos with pork and pineapple are good.

>>21465491 (OP)
Westernized Tikka Masala is way better the way I make it. Creme Fraiche at the end and none of the food poisoning from the authentic Indian poo.
Seriously. I never eat out at Indian restaurants anymore. I’ve gotten food poisoning three times from different Indian restaurants and I can cook it authentically myself if I want.

>>21484030
Blah blah blah blah blah. I've never been to an Indian restaurant but yada yada yada bullshit I'm getting on my pink glittery soapbox anyway blah blah blah.
You fucking twat.
>mihh good morning saar
No, I'm not Indian. I'm just bored of you fucking idiots.

>>21484037
Topkek. I’m actually serious.
Hilariously, the last time I got food poisoning was with my wife on valentines day this year. I finally swore off Indian restaurants for good after that. We had to take turns puking and shitting to take care of our children in between. Hilariously awful.

>>21484045
Yeah of course, never happened to me ever and I've eaten 100s, yet it's happened thrice to you. Hmm, what to make of that. Very suspicious

>>21465491 (OP)
Literally every brownoid recipe is automatically improved once in white hands.

>>21484049
Oh look it's brownoid whitebot. A very interesting bot, full of insight. Lots to say that's of great use

>>21484050
>don’t know what to say so i’ll resort to calling you a bot
Good job sis

>>21484064
>called me sis, implying I'm a female in attempt to denigrate me.
Well done, you pig-shooting hick. That's your top level. Downhill from here

>>21484066
>pig shooting hick
Not one but even that’s better than your border hopping ass

>>21472588
Japanese don't care where it originated. Many people think that the present is the most important.

>>21484071
You have the intellect of one. Underperforming. Get back to your vapid brownoid posts.

>>21484085
Keep going sis, you’re almost at the border!

>>21484089
You're joking? This is like being in a debate with a top scientist to you. To me, it's like arguing with an effeminate guppy. You're not bored, but I am.

It occurred to me that every country has two types of restaurants: restaurants with localized food and restaurants with real food, right?

>>21484098
>it pretends it’s a scientist now
Holy reddit go back!

>>21484100
Get a passport and find out for yourself you callow, sheltered cuckold

>>21484105
Is it rare that there are two kinds of restaurants?

>>21484109
You'll never know. You get a panic attack when you leave your state

>>21484115
Why? Your state has strict gun laws?