Explain this logic.

>>21477842 (OP)
Yes anon, hamburgers with vegetables aren't that bad for you. The sugary soda and french fries that go with them are bad for you, though.

>>21477850
this. and when most people talk about burgers being junk food, it's referring to fast food burgers, which are fried in grease and the buns are full of sugar, and there's tons of salt and other shit in it all. and even then, it's still mostly the fries and sugar that make it really bad. but like, I don't think anyone is calling your homemade burgers junk food.

>>21477850
I drink sugarfree cola though

>>21477842 (OP)
the problem is everything got substituted for something that could keep longer, was cheaper, and easier to store
the result is a processed burger and chemical water
otherwise, that's just fried ground beef, some veg and fruit, with some dairy and bread; protein, fats, carbs, minerals and vitamins

>>21477850
>>21477860
I see the issue as more that a typical hamburger has maybe a tiny slice of tomato, a leaf of lettuce and maybe a pickle. If you load up a burger and have some good greens on the side, maybe some homemade sauerkraut then you're doing alright.

and sugars, natural sugars from fruits(tomato) is fine
most people aren't developing type 2 diabetes from eating berries all day

>>21477874
>sprouts and kraut over fat whopper
you fucking guy, you're going to be farting so much after

>>21477874
yes that's a good point too, the typical burger doesn't have a lot of vegetaes compared to meat and bun. serve your burger with a salad instead of fries and it's not bad.

>>21477874
That looks pretty good. Did you make that?

>>21477873
This, these are not the same burgers anymore

Fasfood burgers usually contain copious amounts of high fat sauces and melted cheese (which can add up to 400+ kcal on their own), and are paired with full-sugar soda (if you know what the Randle cycle is, you know that mixing high amounts of fat with high amounts of sugar is a diabetes-inducing metabolic disaster). So your "balanced meal" plate is lacking a heap of cheese and sauce, and a coke.

>>21477842 (OP)
Your reality is fake

>>21477879
>>21478006
Aye, as my wife's complaints attest I seem to have a knack for making foods that produce noxious flatulence. This wild mushroom and anchoy pizza was a little legendary in that department

>>21478306
Also a quick public service announcement, if you like sauerkraut, just make your own. It's easy as fuck and this whole jar cost me maybe 50 cents to make.

>>21477842 (OP)
That's the shittiest salad ever

>>21478306
Also a quick public service announcement, if you like sauerkraut, just make your own. It's easy as fuck and this whole jar cost me maybe 50 cents to make.

a burger is normal food
junk food is stuff that comes in bags like doritos

but the amount of vegetables in a burger is pretty pathetic compared to a kebab or gyro which mogs it btw

Gotta remove the bread for it to be truly healthy.

>>21477842 (OP)
>no mustard
>no onion
>tomato
>the tomato is on the bottom
That burger is junk but not because it's unhealthy.

>>21477842 (OP)
McDonald's was way ahead of you, OP.

>>21477862
Just as bad.

Drink water.

>>21477874
That is foulest abomination I have ever laid eyes on on this board, and I lurk fridge threads.

>>21477860
salt is good for you

>>21477842 (OP)
Get rid of the carb laden bun and soda, and you can eat as many burgers as you want.

>>21478586
No thanks fatso that sounds gross.

>>21478390
this is such bullshit

>>21477842 (OP)
the hamburger has an extra 1000 calories of sauce.

>>21478599
what? you dont have your lassagna with a salad and a 16 oz softdrink?

>>21477874
That looks awesome. Would eat.

>>21478586
I lost 115 that way actually. Anyone can do it. Most just refuse to quit their comfort shit.

>>21477842 (OP)
The balanced meal should be served without the bun.

>>21477842 (OP)
a glass of orange is alot healthier than a glass of coke.
whats so hard to understand?

>>21477874
>retard burger
>can't even take a bite of it

>>21479511
you can take a bite, but the cheese grease will cause it fall through your hands so you look like a fucking retard

>>21477842 (OP)
you replaced the soda with orange juice. do you have any other logical quandaries to test my massive intelligence?

>>21478552
sure, just not in excess. fat is good for you too - in moderation.

>>21478537
it's not just as bad, it's way better than chugging down 500 cal of corn syrup. It's the difference between "oof, owie my microbiome" and fatty liver disease

>>21479451
it really isn't, not by much
a little vitamin C but otherwise they're both just sugar

>>21479613
>Orange juice is a good source of several vitamins and minerals, including Vitamin C, potassium, folate, and vitamin B6. It also contains carbohydrates (including natural sugars), a small amount of protein, and is fat-free.

>>21480074
Vitamin niggers are some of the dumbest "health" retards in the universe. Let's say I take a dozen donuts, grind up a daily multivitamin and dust it across the top of all of them. Is it now "healthy" for me to completely house down that entire box of donuts?

>>21477842 (OP)
easy
the trick is that the right image *looks* like it's a disassembled hamburger, but actually in order to get a "balanced meal" you need
- a non-retarded bread
- unmolested beef, ideally not in ground form
- non-"american" cheese
in fact, in yurp fast food can actually qualify as a "balanced meal" due to both food regulations and fast food places trying to appeal to better class of people than low income low iq american peasants

>>21477842 (OP)
Ah yes, my balanced meal of a fried patty and a cheese plattter of only processed Cheddar.

>>21480761
you're a faggot

>>21481529
no
the issues are sauces and additives.
soy and other non-meat additives are fine, processed cheese is also still fine
sauces have a lot of added sugar, salt, fat and other unhealthy things in general.
and corn syrup.

yes, just because it's packaged as a burger doesn't make it unhealthy.

but europe's burgers are still bad, especially from non-chain vendors, and sometimes worse than european kebabs health-wise as well.

>>21478552
you need like 500mg of salt a day. you can get all of the salt you need by eating a couple servings of unsalted animal products. any hyponatremia is caused by excessive fluid intake and not insufficient sodium intake.

>>21480761
Autists are some of the dumbest retards in the universe. They hyperfixate on a tiny little thing and have no ability to see the forest through the trees.
I'll break it down for your tiny mind: both donuts and orange juice have similar issues and it's not related to macro or micro nutrient balance. It's simply calorie density and ease of eating. Yes, adding a multivitamin can be beneficial, but you'd still be eating a shit ton of calories. Oranges are good, but you wouldn't eat eight of them in a few seconds, conversely you could easily chug the juice of eight oranges in a few seconds.

>>21482172
>500mg salt daily
lmao, even pussy ass american recommendations range between 1.5-2.3g depending on what science party you subscribe to

>>21482238
Love the irony. An autistic freak so obsessed with calorie density they/them can't understand that this isn't an issue at all if you don't overeat and you are physically active.
The only way you can claim that a food is unhealthy by assuming everyone who eats it will overeat and never exercise. Nothing you've said applies to the food itself. It's just ''fat people eat donuts, therefore donuts make you fat and if you eat donuts you will be unhealthy.''
Pure autist faggotry

>>21482238
>Oranges are good, but you wouldn't eat eight of them in a few seconds,

You've clearly never seen me around oranges

>>21482455
the recommendation is to consume below 1500mg a day, with 1500mg being the upper maximum. 1500mg isn't a goal to be reached.

>>21477842 (OP)
It isn't a balanced meal. The two slices of tomato and few iceberg lettuce leaves provide hardly any vitamins and minerals. The burger is processed meat containing additives. Is the juice fresh or from a carton? The white bread is full of sugar.

>>21482551
>The two slices of tomato and few iceberg lettuce leaves provide hardly any vitamins and minerals.
laugh at this retard

>>21477842 (OP)
Cheeseburgers aren't bad for your health. People have zero understanding of nutrition. Doctors take 1 nutrition class in med school and never think about it again

>>21478314
thumbnail makes it look like the jar is wearing sun glasses

>>21477850
Soda and french fries are not bad for you. There's no such thing as food that's "bad for you" unless it's literally poisonous or rotten or something.

>>21477860
Sugar, grease, and salt aren't bad for you.

>>21477842 (OP)
Put 3 times as much tomato and lettuce inside the burger and replace the sugary buns for two slices of bread that's just flour and water and you can have your burger sandwich

>>21483602
I see it

>>21477842 (OP)
Why do midwits love posting shit like this?

>>21477842 (OP)
Burgers had been fine when people were moving and burning their calories - like manual laborers. They are murder for office workers or coach potatoes.
If you regularly exercise then you can eat fast food still - in the middle of a 80 km bike ride even copious amounts of sodium will only do you good. And sugar coke is an ultimate energy drink.

>>21478306
This looks so unappetizing that I saved it to my computer so that I may laugh at it later