Thankfully I eat low carb so I am safe from carb induced schizophrenia

>>21497551 (OP)
I stopped eating bread and even did low carb low sugar and my depression didn't go away.

>>21497551 (OP)
none of that is true. the bread and pasta is not the reason people are tired and depressed.

they are tired because they stay up too late, and depressed because they can't stop doom scrolling on their phones.

I'm not tired and depressed and I eat those things. I also go to bed at 8pm, and don't spend my whole day looking at my phone. I probably look at my phone about 15 minutes total if that.

I avoid social media, and the only bullshit I ever see is on 4chan.

>>21497559
>none of that is true
How do you know? They didn't even post the article.

>>21497551 (OP)

Sounds like absolute bullshit.
I eat bread and pasta every other day and I'm fine.
I suggest exercise if you are depressed.

Wait, did they actually claim bread causes a fake medical condition that scientists created to try to explain something science doesn't understand?

Or it could be all of the preservatives and chemicals that are used in modern-day mass-produced product? How is it the fault of something that people ate for hundreds of years without issue until we figured out how to prolong their shelf-life?

>>21497551 (OP)
Even if nuder truly gave people depression, they're worth it. A life without nuder is a life not worth living.

>>21497551 (OP)
>Boss, zillennials crippled by debt and rent aren't spending enough on overpriced food any more.
>I know! Tell them their bread and pasta is the cause of their schizophrenia. That oughta get those penny-pinching turds to come on down to Macker's for a depression-destroying meal! (or doordash it for 200% the cost (plus tip))

>>21497612
Not him but that kind of seals it for me. Op is trying stir the shit pot and if the article had anything convincing that would be a sure fire way to stir it.
Lrn2fourchan

It's an issue with gluten. There's a good amount of evidence from thousands of years ago to a hundred years ago that people were dealing with severe health issues from eating gluten. So it's not really new. Identifying gluten as a cause for some of it is new though.

inb4 people have meltdowns because gluten was mentioned

The voice in my head and I just made a tray of buns and ate them all in one sitting. Didn't make us sad, it made us happy because we like bread.

>>21497551 (OP)
>NYP
I'd trust the Onion more than that

>>21497754
having problems with gluten is a genetic defect. vast majority of people can consume it with no problems

>>21497754
>early history medicine

>>21497754
>There's a good amount of evidence from thousands of years ago to a hundred years ago that people were dealing with severe health issues from eating gluten.
(Citation Needed)
Even if there is, I'd bet good money the entire thing boils down to the fact that bread was like 90% of your daily calories for large parts of human history.

>>21497786
Good thing the article doesn't say it affects everyone.

>muh genetics
Tired trope.

>>21497793
It's just descriptions that are the same as modern Celiac disease symptoms. Not anything like leeches.

>>21497796
>Even if there is, I'd bet
Well no because for some people intestinal damage occurs from gluten in the smallest amounts to where even cross contamination is a concern.

>>21497754
>>21497559
catastrophic amount of confusion in thread as usual. Im so glad I did all my research in the early 2010s before it was purged/censored.

All discussions on these topics need to address 3 main things.

Grains are the problem, not carbs.
Added nutrients in American made grain products.
Genetics changing how the body processes grains in the first place.

If these 3 things dont cross your mind before CARB BAD POTATO = BREAD SLICE then your brain is fried or youre ignorant and stupid.

The last topic that needs to be addressed is glyphosate, which despite getting plenty of new attention globally, hasnt been addressed. dioxins are another factor.

>>21497551 (OP)
It’s just fashionable to be mentally ill at the moment. It’ll pass.

>>21497802
>It's just descriptions that are the same as modern Celiac disease symptoms.
What like shitting yourself and writhing in pain like you'd be doing if you had legionnaires or dysentery back in a time wheb they didn't know about bacteria or safe ways to store water and didn't wash their hands?

>>21497833
No.

>>21497802
>Tired trope.
you have bad genes. get over it. some people bald, some don't. most people can digest gluten without getting a tummyache, (You) can't. deal with it.

pasta is one of the most unsatisfying ways to get calories in. Tastes like nothing on its own and low protein. I get a craving for some spaghetti *very* occasionally, but eating pasta-based food more than once a month is awful.
People in third world countries use a lot of pasta because it stores very well and because they can't get/afford good quality vegetables and meat, this is certainly not a problem in the US, so I'm perplexed by its popularity here

>>21497885
I only eat 4oz at most and use a disproportionate amount of meat gravy.

>>21497882
I don't have issues with gluten.

>>21497729
Forgot to add the (Buy now, pay later) on the door dash order

I feel way more like shit when I don't eat bread like I've been doing for the last year.
God I want some buttered baguettes so bad.

I can't wait for this to turn out being fake just like every single other "this type of nutrition causes everything bad" fad of the past.

>>21497612
>https://nypost.com/2025/07/24/health/bread-may-be-to-blame-for-your-depression-and-fatigue-and-cause-schizophrenia/

It literally just says people who have celiac MIGHT develop these symptoms based on shady research. And that's only if you have celiac. Jesus what was wrong with the news these days.

>>21497802
>Well no because for some people intestinal damage occurs from gluten in the smallest amounts to where even cross contamination is a concern.
And that's a very tiny portion of the population, what's your point? That's like saying tree nuts are bad for you because .01% of people will die from eating them due to an allergy.

>>21498102
i didn't say it's bad for everyone and neither did the article

>>21497555
They're not talking about real depression - they're talking about the "oww, I stubbed my toe" depression that everybody's medicated for, nowadays.

>>21497551 (OP)
>The five grains are chisels cutting life away, making the five organs stink and shorten our spans. Once entered into our stomach, there's no more chance to live quite long. To strive for complete avoidance of all death, keep your intestines free of excrement!

>>21497551 (OP)
eating spaghetti to unlock my mind's eye, i will keep you all apprised bros

>>21497551 (OP)
If you masturbate too much you get schizophrenia. Just look at 4chan users

>>21497551 (OP)
The bread is the only thing telling me when the television is lying

>>21497551 (OP)
>ate lots of bread and pasta during my childhood
>approaching 40 and am insane
checks out

>>21497551 (OP)
Depression isn't real.

I'm not a "schizo" THOUGH, to use the parlance of our times

>>21498854
it is, you never felt it

>>21497551 (OP)
So then why am I a depressed schizo even when I cut out carbs from my diet?

>>21499037
you dont have enough diet shasta in your diet, thats why

>>21497551 (OP)
>"Scientists have found that these foods are bad for you"
>"No, we're not going to introduce any new standards to fix it or hold any of the food companies responsible for it"

>>21497555
>Maybe try exercising!
Doesnt help
>Eat low carb to avoid blood sugar swings!
Doesn't help
>Quit caffeine, nicotine, and alcohol and you'll feel better!
doesn't help

>uhh ok dude you're gonna have to commit yourself to a mental hospital because I can't help you
cool

>>21497551 (OP)
>dude these grains humanity has been eating since the start of recorded history cause schizophrenia and depression

>>21499428
yes, when you refine them until they have zero fiber and they digest almost as fast as pure sugar. Comparing white flour to a whole grain is as comparing apples to apple juice.

>>21499435
Sure, and there's probably an argument you can make for grains that have been over-refined. I actually looked up the article and shockingly the headline is complete bullshit and the article is just talking about people with I'm assuming undiagnosed Celiac Disease having stronger causal links to depression potentially schizophrenia. So it isn't even about the grains, it's about people's response to the gluten.

non-europeans simply can't handle gluten

>>21499453
wheat originated in the middle east

>>21499453
Highest rate of celiac disease is in Sweden, acthually

>>21499464

Why is Mexico so high? 1 to 3%. Is it just shitty data keeping since it says 1-3% or do the mexicans do something different compared to the rest of North America? Maybe it's all the corn tortillas? (I just ate some corn tortilla chips).

>>21499480

1-3.5%*

>>21499480
There's no gluten in corn, dipshit.

>>21499516
Technically no but all grains have similar proteins and some people with Celiac disease also react to corn/rice/oats.

>OP gets BTFO the last time they posted this thread
>posts it again without the nytimes link this time
surely it'll work this time, ketolard

>>21499528
Source, because the only reference I'm getting is for oats. Corn and rice should only be an issue due to cross-contamination.

>>21497551 (OP)
Yeah, its the bread and pasta what makes people depressed, not the sorry state of the world, that has nothing to do with it, and ditching bread and pasta is actually great since you wont be able to afford after the next inflation hike, keep working Mr Shekelstein for peanuts and forget about bread and pasta, they are actually bad for you.

>>21497551 (OP)
If that were true, I want to see Italy and China's numbers.

>>21497551 (OP)
Meanwhile Italy is I’ve of the happiest places on Earth

Yeah, I don’t think so

>>21501352
>Meanwhile Italy is I’ve of the happiest places on Earth
did you have a stroke from eating too much pasta there mario?

>>21497885
Sorry you don’t have an Italian mom and your Karen cracker ass bitch mom makes you kraft Mac n cheese

>>21497551 (OP)
>be me
>eat [homemade] bread all the time
>not depressed or anxious
>have solid 4 pack abs workin on dat 6
feels pretty gud bros

>>21501358
men want to BE you

>>21501358
Most schizos are unaware they are schizos

>>21501390
could you say the whole word? i dont want to be associated with those degenerates who pop a dozen different horse pills and see little goblins in the corner of their room and shit, im just a loner (schizoid)

>>21497551 (OP)
>yeah bro I'm totally not mentally ill let me just post this ugly nigger on /ck/ to ruin someone's day for no reason

>>21497555
That's because you're gay

>>21497786
It's the other way around though
Everyone can eat meat and fruit, but EEF/ANF etc heavily admixed populations are properly adapted to eat grains efficiently

>>21497551 (OP)
>jew york post
>"may be"
>"could"
Clearly we should eat more bread and pasta

>>21501390
what didnt i deny in my post?

>>21497793
best póst lol

>>21501390
This isn't true by the way. A lot of schizophrenics go hide in a different room to talk to the voices without arousing suspicion.

>>21497551 (OP)
>traditional White European dishes causes schizophrenia! Just eat the bugs instead!!
>traditional White European beverage causes cancer! Just drink the s0yjuice instead!!
>traditional White European sexual relationship type causes racism! Just become LGBTQ+ and love the BBC instead!!
>traditional White European fuels causes global warming!! Just use solar and don't consume!!
>traditional White European history causes xenophobia! Just deconstruct the past and all your beliefs instead!!
>traditional White European form of government causes oppressions! Just embrace democracy and Bolshevism instead!!
>traditional White European style of seasoning causes blandness! Just spice dem food until yall choke on dem instead!!
...interesting

Yeah. The last ten thousand years of human existence were all shaped by severely depressed people. Everything finally makes sense

>>21497926
Are you then claiming gluten intolerance is an environmental cause, if not genetic? Because you might be even dumber than I first thought.

You vill eat ze bugz flour

>>21497555
I stopped eating too much carb and my brain got less foggy, thats it

>>21499417
Choose to not be a pussy

>>21497551 (OP)
Name literally anything and there's a schizo out there claiming it's literally the devil with "science" to back it up.
It's all so tiresome.

>getting ergot means bread is bad
Shut up, big (((nutrition)))

>>21501355
>Italian implies they aren't White

>>21498009
>It literally just says people who have celiac MIGHT develop these symptoms based on shady research. And that's only if you have celiac. Jesus what was wrong with the news these days.
And, it also said that elminating gluten from the diet did not fix the psych disorders.
/thread

>>21499417
There is nothing I hate more than moralfags and their basic bitch advice.

>>21506972
these were all said to me by a very expensive therapist. in my experience, therapy isn't meant to help people with actual mental problems. it's there for people who are kind of sad sometimes. I've been to multiple therapists and their ultimate advice is always to quit your job and/or check yourself into a mental hospital.

Schizophrenia is such a fucked up word for something that causes paranoid delusions.
It’s like the psychiatrists got together and said “ok, how can we make the most terrifying sounding word imaginable?”
Schizophrenia is the kind of name schizophrenia would name itself.
>Ty I’ll be here all night

>>21499417
I genuinely think people think sadness is an emotion that can just be eliminated from the body's mental routine, and they can unlock a happiness state indefinitely if they just take the right drugs, or accomplish some great dream project of theirs.
Like nah, it's human nature to just get sad and pensive and recollect your thoughts and shit. Just keep on truckin' and don't let mind goblins waste your precious time by wallowing in self-pity. If nothing works then it probably means someone is responding to sad thoughts in a poor way.

Old news.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2652467/

>>21497551 (OP)
>american bread and pasta
>filled with chemicals and additives

I used to eat shitton of pasta and bread when younger but as you get older, the shittier they make you feel
I eat them every now and then because I love the taste, but they immediately make me shit myself

>>21507874
>but they immediately make me shit myself
that's not normal

>>21507895
I might have IBS or something, it's not exclusive to pasta or bread, any food can give me the shits, even just drinking water in the morning, but bread and pasta are almost always guaranteed

Fuuuck, been eating bread/pasta all my life, and I've only recently shown signs of schizophrenia AND depression. Should I just end it before I turn hollow?

>>21497551 (OP)
>Thankfully I eat low carb
Opposite is true, avoiding carbs affects your mental health. You need carbs from glucose, not ketones, for happiness and optimal brain health.

>>21500732
Exactly this. There's a reason most people choose not to have kids nowadays.