Thread 21507723

ITT: "Delicacies" or fancy/expensive foods you don't see the appeal ofm

>>21507723 (OP)
Caviar is delicious. Sorry you havent had the good stuff.

Truffles are also fantastic. Get some real winter truffles.

>>21507728
What do you think the word appeal means

>>21507732
The stuff you peel off fruits, duh. What a gay thread if you really just want to talk about what you think foods taste like that you'll never be able to afford.

Yeah guys! All this expensive stuff is SHIT! I'm happier not trying them because they are just big dumb and stupid! Yeah!

>>21507751
So I'll take that as either you don't know or you just want to be combative and pivot to some fake argument then.

>>21507755
You sound stupid and autistic. Sorry about that one bud.

>>21507723 (OP)
Foie gras is delicious.

Expensive wine is worthwhile.
Especially a nice bottle of D'yquem with some foie gras, yeah. Delicious.
Maybe a bottle of cristal with some osetra and kumamoto oysters. Delicious.

Feel sorry for the people that are missing out on these luxuries.

>>21507766
What if the label off your bottles fell off and you couldn't tell them apart from $5 wine like all the experts lol

>>21507766
>Foie gras
>luxury
Are you homeless?

>>21507766
>Maybe a bottle of cristal
?

>>21507815
Some expensive wines scoring less than a $5 bottle in a blind tasting doesn't prove there aren't quality grades of wine, only that some low quality wine is sold for outrageous prices by what are essentially scammers taking advantage of people with more money than sense.

>>21507728
Where do I buy caviar? I used to get a restaurant friend to order it for me but I moved away and he can only order it to the restaurant, not to my house.

It's objectively one of those things that "fancy" just because it's rare and expensive, the same way pineapples used to be.

I dunno about you guys, but I get a strange tingle when I see pictures or watch videos of geese being forced fed in the process of making delicious foie gras.

I can't be the only one can I?

>>21508329
My gf enjoys that.

>>21508329
You also watched the part of the geese flocking to the feeder?

>>21508345
Reminds me of my time at Kindercare

>>21507859
Both wegmans and costco has it. Don't remember if Sam's too.

>>21508329
>geese
fuck em

>>21507755
>So I'll take that as either you don't know or you just want to be combative and pivot to some fake argument then.

>>21508515
in fact of course

>>21507723 (OP)
caviar is the only food so nasty I had to scrape the taste off of my tongue. you have to have no sense of taste or smell and love pure concentrated fish to enjoy that. probably the most vile thing I have ever eaten (yes it was the "good stuff")

>>21507728
every time a thread like this comes up someone HAS to tell people that they love whatever it is.

OP could have posted horse shit and someone would say it's wonderful.

>>21508997
Philadelphians unironically would

>>21507815
As someone who has consumed a lot of champagne and other French sparkling wines, I can assure you that there really is a meaningful difference between the cheap stuff and the expensive stuff.

While there is a point of diminishing returns, you don't get to that until around the $100 price point for champagne and at least $50 for sparkling wines from other regions.

>>21507723 (OP)
China already made caviar a cheap thing. And top rating boards agreed it is good.

>>21508320
Not anymore.

China has become the world's top producer of caviar, surpassing traditional producers like Russia and Iran. Chinese companies have achieved this through advancements in sturgeon farming technology and by focusing on both domestic and international markets. While China's caviar industry has grown rapidly, it has also faced some challenges, including tariffs and regulatory hurdles for exports.

>>21507723 (OP)
This you OP?

>>21508996
You had bad/fake caviar.

>>21507831
CERVEZA CRISTAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Haven't had much any of the crazy high-quality baluga stuff but salmon caviar is fucking delicious atop creme fraiche and served on a neutral butter cracker. It's not the priciest thing, you can order a couple small jars of it for a reasonable price and snack on it over a few days. Ordering the caviar is as great excuse to make creme fraiche if you don't have any so it's a win-win.

>>21509126
Of course.

>>21507723 (OP)
>he doesn't put caviar on his ice cream
peasant

>>21509272
I'd have laughed at this years ago but now that I've got a taste for the little orange balls this honestly sounds delicious, especially with something subtle like french vanilla that will cleanse the palette between bites.

>>21509278
lol anon those orange balls aren't caviar, they're juice-filled like the candy 'gushers'

>>21509296
That's fine I'm still going to be on the hunt for a vanilla ice cream that I think will pair well with my next acquisition of salmon caviar.

>>21509333
Buy a whole salmon and make caviar from the eggs. Done it before. Quite good.

>>21509053
>>21509057
Getting served Chinese caviar would be like getting served American lobster. Instantly makes the place seem low class.

>>21507859
look it up you lazy nigger I'm not spoonfeeding you
didn't ask for your gay sex life deets either friendo

>>21509608
>anon gives you the scoop on his gay restaurant lover
>you can't even do him the courtesy of dropping your caviar source
This site has gone downhill

>>21507815
there is 100% a huge difference between cheap gas station wine and the good shit that costs $100 a bottle. you're just telling on yourself that you've never had a good wine before

>>21507723 (OP)
Crab eye stalk pâté.
Goes great on a cracker.
Very important to not use the eyes and just the stalk.
Killer Whale blowhole is also a great favorite of mine

>>21509128
no I did not.

>>21509810
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/jun/23/wine-tasting-junk-science-analysis

>>21507751
bait used to be believable

>>21510462
Okay pleb. Let me guess you think oysters also taste disgusting.

>>21510549
I just pick my nose and eat it its the same thing. Free oysters they don't want you to know.

>>21510582
Nasty secret, pleb.

>>21510587
You cant tell me it doesn't taste like an oyster
Especially the really soupy ones

>>21509607
Zoomers will be the last generation to think Chinese things are low class and Chinas as third world.
In fact, Gen A and B will grow up in America that is no longer at the top.

However that is the point, the Chinese removed many luxury things. Chinese cars are taking over the ev market and now will take over the luxury market too. Just like they did for high end smart phones.

>>21510591
Oysters taste nothing like snot. I mean maybe your snot tastes like the ocean, brine, meat, but mine do not.

>>21510592
If you buy from reputable factory you get what you pay for from china. It really is that simple.

>>21509607
>Getting served Chinese caviar would be like getting served American lobster. Instantly makes the place seem low class.
I wouldn't trust Chinese caviar like I don't trust chinese shrimp or "basa" or any other kind of fish. If it was farmed in the Mekong, the most polluted river ever, then nope.
But American lobster is just fine. Half of the lobster coming into the port in Yarmouth, ME is bought up immediately from S. Korea. Buyers sitting right there on his phone getting bids and taking it all on the spot before it's even packed for shipping. I'd be surprised if there was any left for the Americans or anyone else in the world. They have $$$$

>>21510611
Well yeah. China WAS making cheap good like 20 years ago mainly. Now China makes everything from daily use garbage to good quality to high quality to luxury. Did you see the thread on pol that showed Chinas new mountain roads and all the seething posts from Americans?

>>21510625
>Did you see the Chinese propaganda thread on the Russian and Chinese propaganda board?
No thanks

>>21510628
K. It was a Chinese mega project. Something America cannot do anymore.

It's just a delivery system for garlic and butter, don't bullshit me.

>>21510642
They're just earthy tasting clams. Yummy!

>>21507723 (OP)
>Caviar is delicious
it's okay
i mostly hate it because it's so overused nowadays

>>21507766
>Expensive wine is worthwhile
after the 50-100€ range, there are absolutely no tasteable improvements
you get some novelty / unique (vintage) stuff for more that is kinda... worth it, but that's REALLY rare and not because it tastes inherently better

>>21507859
order online
especially all the good russian ones are impossible to get (in Europe) otherwise
but then again, it's not that great tasting in the first place

>>21510642
that's just traditional french
in other parts of Europe it's simmered with red / white wine or fried
in western africa sea snails are mostly eaten in stews (or just stir fried)

>>21510710
>over 50 eurobucks isnt worth it
PLEB. Go do some research and get wines from a good vintage, winelet.

>>21510923
Such as?

>>21507723 (OP)
It's neither fancy nor expensive but 'Dubai' chocolate doesn't appeal to me at all. Sea salt and caramel with chocolate tastes way better, in my opinion.
>>21507728
Nah, my mum's boss gave me half a teaspoon of beluga caviar a few years back and it was extremely mid.
Even he was like "Yeah, rich people just eat this shit to flex and even then, they only do it when they're drunk. Nobody actually wants this stuff when they're at home relaxing."

>>21510953
2001 sauternes
2009 2010 2011 2015 bordeaux
1992 CDP
2008 champagne

>>21511136
Pleb appealing to authority. You must think oysters are mid as well, yeah?

>>21510640
i saw the one with the collapsed bridge and truck hanging over the edge

>>21509126
My mom has a friend who’s as indulgent as they come and is dirt poor as a result over a lifetime of bad spending habits but she still eats caviar on occasion the same way someone would eat a Twinkie.

>>21510923
yeah... only that most sommeliers agree with me

50€ is enough to make a very fine wine
100€ gets you some rarer, specialty or vintages ones
everything beyond is rarely (not never, just very very rarely) an improvement
and why spend more if get a similar experience?

and if you look it at common (blinded) wine rankings that don't care about price
most top picks will be in the 50-100€ range as well
which again, is also my personal experience

>>21511207
>2008 champagne
2002 > 2012 >>> 2008
but i don't care much about champagne anyway

Very curious how the venn diagram for "expensive shit" and "shit richfags will defend" is a circle. If vanillin hadn't been discovered, vanilla ice cream would be part of the rotation of usual suspects as well, but since it's an experience the dirty plebs have access to, there is no glamour.

>>21511687
>venn diagram for "expensive shit" and "shit richfags will defend" is a circle
usually there's some point of diminishing returns
it's above what the average person buys
but below the "luxury" show off stuff (which sometimes isn't even actually high end, just branding)

>vanillin
that's your example, really??
vanilla beans are vastly superior
and they're not even expensive if buying in bulk

>>21511687
>vanilla
>luxury

>>21511695
>>21511726
No vanillin in romania

>>21511207
I love how you're basically just confirming exactly what my mum's boss said. I bet you don't even like any of the things you're typing about.
I can't imagine trying this hard to impress a bunch of strangers on the Internet, especially when you went out of your way to act like a pretentious assclown with the very first statement you made. You gonna tell us about your G7, too?

>>21511726
0 reading comprehension kek.
>>21511695
>usually there's some point of diminishing returns
I agree.
>it's above what the average person buys
Lmao of course it is, it's a status game by definition. When the chinks are flooding the market with cheap ass beluga caviar and the plebs get access to it it'll lose all its luster too.

>>21511733
NTA but you are the fucking asshole. That anon was asked a question and he answered. Now you are moving the goalpost. You sound assblasted.

Not all expensive wines are worth it but some are. Applies to most of the other stuff in this thread. Some people will just buy things because they are expensive but they have no tastebuds to discern what is good and what isn't, and will often willingly walk into a scam. That doesn't mean there aren't expensive things worth their pricetag.

>>21511742
>NTA
nobody cares, faggot

>>21511743
You still sound assblasted about people enjoying things.

>>21511744
>there's only one anon itt
Go back.

>>21511733
>>21511744
Also I almost missed this
>confirming exactly what my mum's boss said
lmao
mY mOm ToLd Me ThE iCkY wInEs ArE oVeRpRiCeD

You are manchild with no life experience, you were not worth arguing with in the first place.

>>21511735
>it's a status game by definition
not really

>organic produce I buy usually actually tastes better
>an aged balsamico tradizionale tastes a lot better than the standard sugary "balsamico cream"
>same with soi sauce / miso, olive oil, mustard and lot other ingredients
>fresh wasabi is mind blowing compared to the colored horseradish
even small changes
>like bronze cut paste
make your food a lot better

nothing about that is status related
some carries "status" for some people
but that's an afterthought

>>21511742
>That anon was asked a question and he answered
>Not all expensive wines are worth it but some are
but the argument was something different...

it's that expensive wines are not worth it (beyond some very rare exceptions)
because you can get the same experience with a cheaper bottle

of course I would absolutely enjoy a 2005 or 2009 vintage Bordeaux (especially if father in law pays kek)
but I can easily get an exceptional 2020 one that is just as good and below 100€

the OP isn't wrong about it being a good selection
just that it's not exclusive, nor strictly better than anything else

rule #1 of wine drinking is drink what you like
rule #2 is that ratings are accurate
rule #3 is you can find very good wine, highly rated for $20 a bottle or less

>>21510592
None of that is happening bug shill

>>21511780
Sour grapes. Literally and figuratively.

incels or advert bots
which is more likely

>>21507732
You say “appeal” as a opposed to “like”, implying haven’t actually tried, you simply have no interest to begin with

>>21509607
I agree, even if they say it’s good, I’ll always be cheap chinisium.

>>21510549
fucking hell they taste disgusting. I bet you swallow too.

>>21510607
so you do know what snot tastes like... interesting.

>>21511733
spot on anon, there is a sub culture here of tastelets that would eat horse shit if it was expensive enough and rate the quality of the mucus coating it. people who are proud they eat nasty things perplex me.

>>21514016
Hahahahaha faggot you are a tastelet.

>>21513007
>big caviar is shilling on anime forums now
the future is weird

>>21514023
See
>>21514070

>>21511744
The problem isn't people 'enjoying things', it's snobby fuckwits telling people they're not allowed to have opinions on things because they "weren't rich enough to eat the good stuff". Which doesn't even make sense in this context because beluga caviar is NOT cheap. At all.
It's just trolling and if you can't see that you're a retard too.

The noodles could be better but the seasoning is fine. I prefer nongshim neoguri for the noodles and good fish flavor.

Talk about luxury ramen.

>>21507723 (OP)
Everything on the menu in expensive restaurants
Rich people have more money than taste.

>>21510923
Wine "experts" have been btfo by giving them the exact same white wine and just using food coloring. That's it. That was enough to trick "sommeliers"

>>21510642
the vietnamese coconut snails are out of this fucking world

>>21508320
Oh, I hate pineapples too.

>>21509017
Sunk cost cope

Toss up between wagyu and truffles. Wagyu because during COVID wagyu was stupid cheap so I bought it every other month from 99 ranch for cheap to the point I can't stand anything that fatty anymore (not to mention wagyu has a weaker beaf flavor), and truffles because restaurants tend to overwhelm the dish with them most of the time.

I don't like lobster, don't think it's rare, special, it's bycatch with good marketing.

Champaign isn't good, it's just the only sparking white people know, and none of the others are particularly good either.

Fois gras doesn't actually taste of anything and is just a brick of fat. Salo, uigher lamb ass, similar dishes are all foul.

The various cuts of beef steak which are meant to be superior, is a hoax. The quality of the beef is determined by the cow. I prefer tomahawk, but I'll take the best cow before the best cut.

>>21518085
Nobody knows how to cook wagyu, the marbled fat means that it doesn't dry out, but makes it a very poor choice for rare steak. You use it for sizzle steak, it's popularity is an Asian phenomenon and the domestic price simply reflects Asian buying power. So during covid, surprise surprise, it's revealed to be work very little in the domestic market. It's not premium, Asians just like it. We like rare steak

>>21518092
>Champaign
Were you ever made aware that you are not intelligent?

>>21516676
This stuff is slowly taking over the ramen section at my international stores and I still haven't tried it because it just looks like a meme.
Shin gold gets my vote, personally.

Never quite saw the appeal of steak.
>You just haven't had good steak
Yes I have. It's okay, but it's still better when it's with something else, like potatoes or noodles. IMO ribs or chicken are better as a "just meat" dish.

>>21507723 (OP)
Tartare.
I had a platter of steak and tuna tartare and it was... okay
I'd much rather have them cooked, please :(

>>21518095
that's probably a more useful preparation, but also a massive waste considering how much fat ends up getting rendered out, even for cheap wagyu.

>>21518095
but now that wagyu is back up in price and isn't as readily available, i'd say prime short rib would be be better for your purposes.

>>21518095
>>21518092
shush, this is a white man's board

>>21516679
If you think a "sommelier" is a "wine expert" then I have no reason to take your claims seriously.

>>21519496
I like it but not as a casual snack. I always make an effort to cut up some green onions, mushrooms, fry up some bacon and have a hard boiled egg for buldak and some mung beans or tofu or whatever ramen topping I can get (I add extra hot sauce so it doesn't get too mild)
Shin Ramyun and lesser brands are snack tier though, where I'm fine with just boiling the noodles with maybe some green onions added and that's good enough.

That is to say, I like Buldak, and I put in effort to draw out the goodness. With Shin, I'm fine with the base product, it doesn't shine as much even if I put in more effort. Well, the gold variant is kinda ramen tier too, but it's a tad mild so I don't eat it often.

>>21518092
>Champaign isn't good, it's just the only sparking white people know, and none of the others are particularly good either.
nigga wine is whiter than chalk

>>21521577
never heard of red wine?

>>21507766
The value of high priced wine caps out pretty quick. There's a huge market of billionaires who tell their staff to "just get the best" and this means that marginally better wine has much higher demand than almost as good wine, so the price of the technically very best is inflated because $10,000 is nothing to billionaires.
You're going to want to do like $150-500 for good wine.

>>21507766
Isn't foie gras made from tortured animals? Ill pass, rabbi.

>>21507816
most food is a luxury

>>21507815
>>21507840
>>21509017
>>21509810
>>21511742
>>21511742
>>21511780
I've worked wine serving and management, got my degree in beverage, worked state wine events, highest rate was $71/hr, gotten invited out to freezing private cellars of rich old people, got to sample 250 dollar wines etc. My personal opinion is the 30-50 dollar price tag is the sweet spot, since that's where wineries notice they have a good product worth demanding more money but before they start wanking themselves off and charging 800 dollars for something the average retard is going to keep in their cellar for decades while it turns into vinegar
>>21512838
Anon is the most correct take

>>21524503
>My personal opinion is the 30-50 dollar price tag is the sweet spot

I work with some wine cellars in CA and this is spot on. 60 is the absolute max you should spend on a bottle anything more is just for rich people flexing

>>21526439
>>21524503
Absolutely retarded over generalization.

Saying tokaji essencia isn't worth the high price tag. You are both lying faggots or know nothing posers.

>>21526641
>tokaji essencia
Not saying it's bad, haven't tried it. Personally I'm going to have to go fondle some royal tokaji bottles in 6 hours for other people to enjoy. I have had multiple wines in the same lineup at extremely different price points and found the middle ground preferable over the multihundred dollar one though. At a certain point some palates are either unable to discern what warrants the price or are just engineered to prefer different things. Enjoy what you like to drink as anon said.

>>21507859
Ask her if she can order it to your Home instead

>>21508409
What was the deal with this Champagne?

>>21526708
It's just a high end champagne.

>>21509812
delete your trip then kill yourself you cringe fucking faggot

>>21509812
Keep your trip and continue living, based trip friend.

>>21509812
I don't care and be indifferent trip aquaintence

>>21526733
Based

>>21526731
Based

>>21526727
Cringe

>>21509278
Mate, don't be silly. Please