So this is just plant sperm?

>>21513450 (OP)
mixed with bee slop, yes.

Honey is bee vomit that's processed to make it edible. Otherwise you'd find wax and other shit in those bear shaped squeeze bottles.

>>21513459
Unprocessed honey is perfectly edible. It only needs to be coarsely filtered unless you like to eat bee wings and other miscellaneous detritus.

>>21513450 (OP)
A plant's sperm is inside the pollen. If the honey hasn't been finely-filtered then yes, there's plant sperm in it.

Nectar is a lure to draw insects into the bukake zone with all that plant sperm.

It's a far more civilized system than the ragweed and juniper rape-everyone's-noses plan.

>>21513459
If you're buying honey in a bear bottle then you're probably buying shit mixed with corn syrup.

>>21513470
Nah, that's horseshit spread by people who want to sell $12 per pound farmer's market honey.

If the honey's light on flavor, it's probably just blended to death and consisting mostly of honey from cruciferous crop plants and clover. Producers do this intentionally in order not to elicit complaints from the light-lager-no-flavor-best-flavor crowd.

>>21513450 (OP)
i thought it was shit, now you're telling me it's cum?

>>21513459
>processed
interesting choice of word. Extracted is better. They even have hives now with a tap at the bottom where the honey flows out.

>>21513476
Not complete bullshit, one of the major honey sellers in Australia got done for blending with sugar syrup.

>>21513470
It depends on the brands and not all name brands are pure. You just have to do research. Private labels have proven more pure in the past, but it's probably different now.

Honey tastes more interesting (usually better) the less it is blended. Most honey is deliberately blended. Even if it isn't it will probably be extracted in large batches and mixed in the process of packaging. That's the real reason it tends to taste better from small-time producers and hobbyists. It's also why honey in the comb always tastes the best. Even within one hive, there will be honey from a variety of nectar sources that the bees were foraging.

>>21513485
Doesn't mean they were guilty. Producers have had regulators come down on them for honey that included a substantial amount of honeydew, or that came from plants whose pollen is underrepresented (thus failing a pollen count). Conscientious producers won't let syrup they've fed to the bees end up in the honey, but the bees can rob a non-production hive (e.g. a nuc) that's being fed sugar syrup, leaving analytical traces of adulteration.

Honey has the reputation of being a highly-adulterated product, but it's undeserved. Adulteration of olive oil is more common and ground spices are by far the most heavily adulterated food products.

>>21513506
that is why i always get my spices from India. they're serious about spices.

>>21513467
Coarsely filtering is literally processing so you contradict yourself. Raw honey is not edible.

>>21513555
Harvesting and picking are processing. Unless you put your face to the ground and eat like a cow you're eating pRoCeSsEd fOoD.

>>21513506
Most of the time "fake" olive oil is just lower quality olive oil being sold as extra virgin, but it's still olive oil.

>>21513506
Lol supermarket honey is absolute trash, even if its marked with "EU origin" it's still permitted to be 10% chinese """""honey"""" (sugar syrup).
I only ever buy honey directly from the apiary and if you don't you're getting shit chinese honey end of story
Olive oil I can buy in the supermarket and it's good.

>>21513483
Those have been around for about 10 years
https://youtu.be/H9bJsE7LqrI

It’s plant sperm that bees swallow and then regurgitate so their young can feast on it.
Nature is a filthy whore.

>>21513555
>Raw honey is not edible.
you can chew on the comb and spit out the wax like hunter-gatherers do, they don't spend any time separating the wax and filtering it or anything beyond picking out any bees

It's sugar syrup vomited by bees

>>21513450 (OP)
got tired of making the eggs are periods post moron?

wow everyone here is sooooooooo smart and edgy!

>>21513578
hot

>>21514001
>t. Honeybee

>>21513981
it is sad that nowadays one can no longer tell the difference between trolling and literal retards

>>21513476
You can just check the ingredients, I have seen honey and syrup blends more expensive than pure honey
To be fair most honey here is locally sourced so what ends up happening is people bring honey from outside that has a fancy label but is not really that expensive but it's also not really honey

>>21514049
It's easy, there are rational men and honeytards

>>21513450 (OP)
It's bee shit

>>21513483
Flow hives suck and encourage massive parasite growth in the hives.

>>21513450 (OP)
It's kinda cool how bees know enough geometry to make those little pentagons so perfectly

>>21514616

Bee school is really stressful for them tho.

>>21514616
They don't make the hexagon shapes.

They make round holes and the pressure of them being placed together so closely eventually shapes them into hexagons because it's a more efficient load-bearing shape.

t. I like watching beekeepers on YouTube

>>21514588
thought this was a really obscure pepe.

>>21513450 (OP)
Bee vomit more like.

>>21513457
eggs are just chicken periods!!! XD

>>21513555
Raw honey is completely edible. Beeswax is nontoxic. You can eat the whole honeycomb if you want. That's not honey though. Do you know what honey is?

>>21514588
By this logic whiskey and vodka are the same thing and so are chicken and beef.

>>21513450 (OP)
Yes. Whenever you have honey you are snowballing with a flower.

>>21515491
>whiskey and vodka are the same thing
they are pretty much are, the only difference is taste

>>21513981
>SUGAR BAD

>>21515707
Yeah. That's the point.

>>21515732
The point is that honey isn't particularly healthy just because it's natural or raw or some shit, it's basically just sugar slosh

>>21515737
Who cares about that? Yes, everyone who is not literally braindead knows it is mostly sugar. What matters is the taste.

>>21515742
Then why is there so much whining about "fake" honey?

>>21513450 (OP)
Plants get their nutrition from poo, pee, corpses in the ground. Animals eat this poo pee matter. It goes through their intestines and grow. You eat poo and pee.
Ewww grosss!!!!? Never eating again waaaa!!!!!
Stop overthinking everything like retards

>>21515834
oms, I just realized carnivore bloodmouths are more plant than people (vegan)!!!!11

>>21515737
sugar is good for you

>>21515284
Shut up, idiot

>>21515737
"Healthy" is not very specific. It has antibacterial properties so if you are baking and use honey in place of sugar for the yeast to eat on then I'd say honey is healthy in that application, in that it promotes good health through its consumption.
You're a retard though, so you might think differently(wrongly).

>>21513450 (OP)
yes, bee cum

>>21516001
>pic relayed
Diddler.

>>21513757
>like hunter-gatherers do
are hunter-gatherers in the room with us right now?

>>21516108
>relayed

>>21516115
yeah

do you think there aren't any hunter-gatherers living today?

>>21516115
They're called bums these days

>>21516206
Bums are scavengers not hunter gatherers

>>21516209
You must live in a very protected community if you hold that belief.

>>21516108

>>21515011
it is now

>>21513470
>>21513476
>>21513485

I don't know how much of a problem this currently is, but it's going to be getting much worse. I worked for a small specialty food store and the honey we sold was from a local apiary. I worked there for five years and left about 5 years ago, so roughly 2015 - 2020. Each time he came in, he was even more distraught than before. His hives are collapsing, he gets a fraction of the honey these days as he did a decade ago. Everyone in the bee keeping world is starting to quietly freak out because this method they all relied on of taking all the honey the bees worked to make and give them corn syrup in place isn't sustainable. Bee populations are crashing and honey getting more expensive is the least of the trouble that comes from it.

>>21516646
>Each time he came in, he was even more distraught than before. His hives are collapsing, he gets a fraction of the honey these days as he did a decade ago.
The hilarious shit that they never bother to mention is, they aren't willing to spend a dime to stop their "colony collapse disorder" from happening.

It's pretty well understood what causes it -- the hives get weakened by varroa mites (which were spread worldwide by stupid assholes moving hives around countries both inside and internationally). Then the hives get all sorts of diseases and die off. Want to stop this from happening? Kill the fucking varroa mites. Can't really use pesticides because those kill the bees. There are a few chemicals that weaken the mites but that isn't really effective because the bees still get all the diseases the mites spread, just a little slower.

I came up with a way to kill varroa mites about a decade ago, spent five years of research proving that it works, and came up with a low-cost way to implement it. It costs about $200 per hive as a one-time expense, it's capital equipment that you can use for years. (Other solutions exist, mainly keeping the hives ridiculously hot to kill the mites, which costs about $1500 per hive.) Will anyone other than a couple of hobbyists spend the $200? Fuck no, they'd rather whine about "colony collapse disorder" and then spend $50 on a new shipment of bees every spring. Which is "unsustainable" to use the leftist meme word, because even the places producing spare queens and spare colony starter kits are running into trouble and losing all of their stock.

Fucking cheap bastards.

>>21516669
I didn't know any of that and it really sucks. I felt for this guy, but I also think the practice of commercial honey making is pretty fucked up in a lot of ways. But my point with the anecdote is that honey production seems to be becoming increasingly difficult to do and that will probably lead to a lot of fraud.

>>21516750
>and that will probably lead to a lot of fraud.
True. Already has, they call it "honey laundering".

>>21515785
Because adulterated honey does not taste like honey.

>>21513450 (OP)
bee puke

but it's really good for you so it doesn't matter

>be bee
>make honey
>make me happy

>>21515011
https://youtu.be/9gWgNetp8jE

>>21516809
>but it's really good for you
How so?

>>21516851
real honey I should've mentioned
heals illnesses, boosts immune system, tastes great while being better to digest than straight sugar
>oh but hurr durr my science
don't care, knowledge based on experience of generations beats it

>>21516001
you need bacteria for acidic fermentation. if you inhibit the bacteria in a sponge or starter you will prevent it from developing a complex fermented / sourdough flavor

>>21517304
>if you inhibit bacteria you will prevent it from developing a complex fermented flavor
Putting honey in your dough will not stop fermentation and plenty of yeasted doughs use it you fucking retard. In fact, it's common to do things to inhibit fermentation specifically so that the yeast will pace itself and not eat through all of its food, so that it has time to develop a complex flavor while still being alive and kicking for the final proof before the bake.
That's why a biga will have a small amount of yeast relative to the total amount used in the recipe, so that when you begin the pre-ferment 12-24 hours before you really get to work, it will do its thing more slowly. Or why people do bulk fermentations in the fridge specifically to inhibit bacterial activity and give the dough more time to develop complex flavors, which you would know if you actually knew anything about sourdough.

>>21517352
you don't give ferments "time" to develop flavor by simply existing. the flavor is a result of their byproducts. you can develop sourdough in 30 seconds if you had enough yeast and bacteria to consume the sugar and it was done at a temperature where one organism didn't outpace the other. long ferments allow BACTERIA to thrive and product their byproducts.

>>21517365
Are you illiterate or do you just know nothing about bread? Have you ever tried adding honey to a bread dough? Or making bread dough once ever in your life?

>>21517375
I don't make bread but I do bacteria and yeast ferments and you never want the yeast to be the dominant microorganism so inhibiting the bacteria in any way is retarded

>>21517380
>I don't make bread
Then you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, shut the fuck up, retard. You don't know anything about how honey would effect the flavor of a dough over time. I have made bread with honey in the dough, with bulk fermentations that are just a few hours, overnight, and several days. The flavor does develop and become more complex. Wolfgang Puck is famous for pizza and uses honey in his dough, better go call him before he croaks.
Instead of talking out of your ass, try actually making bread and learn how stupid you sound incorrectly applying other knowledge you have to an area you know nothing about.

>>21517395
I don't need to make bread if I know the science behind making bread. You are Wolfgang Puck are retards who believe in nonsense. Are you the moron who keeps saying "I don't care what the study says, I believe it so I'm right."?

>>21517404
>if I know the science
You don't, you're just parroting what others have said, without the benefit of experience.

>>21517404
Honey adds flavor and helps bread last, and it will not stop a yeasted dough from developing flavor through fermentation. You are probably mis-applying a piece of tangential knowledge and coming to a conclusion that is at odds with reality. That's the most charitable interpretation I can give to the nonsense you're spouting. It's also entirely possible that you don't even have a good footing in the perceived knowledge you're mishandling.

>>21517427
>>21517425
I'm just drunk and arguing. Honestly I have like 10 jars of honey and I'm going to use honey in my next dough recipe because of this thread. Hope you guys have a good day I didn't mean to make anyone angry I just wanted to argue and pretend I am intelligent.

>>21517447
No.
Give me your honey.
This is a [spoiler]stick up[/spoiler].