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Since Disney TVA failed to deliver at Annecy by just announcing literal baby shit, what are your predictions for Cartoon Network Studios slate slated for tomorrow?
Don't think they'll announce anything until Wednesday's panel
>>148951330 (OP)Honestly i just want Sugar just to talk about the AT Movie and not announcie a Steven Universe revival like many idiots at Xwitter are thinking KEK
>>148951330 (OP)>Genndy and Craig in the same room since probably PPG RulesGonna be interesting just for that
>>148951330 (OP)wasn't there going to be another powerpuff girls reboot? maybe that
>>148951364Craig McCracken is still DEVELOPING a pitch for a new PPG series last we heard. Nothing's been greenlit yet.
>>148951330 (OP)>Since Disney TVA failed to deliver at Annecy by just announcing literal baby shitReally? i wonder why they decided to only announce stuff for their preschool block instead of the main network.
Probably a release date for the Frankelda movie. It being shown at Annecy aside, it's already been confirmed for at least a Mexican theatrical release.
>>148951330 (OP)They're going to try, again, to make some softboy inoffensive CalArts crap and be all surprised when that doesn't give them the same ratings they got in 2010 when they actually tried something new.
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>>148951739very cute crossover art
>>148951330 (OP)Have the announcements even began yet? I thought all we had was Disney's pre-announcment line up.
>>148952954Normos don't care about their shows
>>148952980We're getting CNS/WBA/HB announcements tomorrow at 15:00 local time (30 hours from now).
>>148951387Do we really need more PPG? And baby Fosters? This is like the 4th PPG reboot counting the anime, and most of them sucked balls, the live action one sucking so hard the suits actually nipped it in the bud. It's another IP getting milked dry, and the fact that this time around they have the original creator's blessing doesn't make it better imo. If they have to revive something instead of creating a new IP why couldn't Craig just finish WoY? What's his beef with disney? The rat is spamming funny alien movies now, making endless remakes, and cancelling brown girl cartoons but it won't occur to them to just finish the alien cartoon they axed.
If no new IFG (which is probably the case) IDGAF
what do the stickers mean
They just announced a Dexter reboot
>>148953873You say this like he chose not to end WoY
>>148954001That’s the Williams street/cn logo, normie
>>148954251Her show is shit but Rebecca looks the best out of all of them
>>148954105I don't think he did, but he chose to work on PPG reboot. I think it's gonna suck, if it gets made at all. Craig is not the same man he was when he created PPG, he's a middle-aged father now and he wants to create good role models for his little daughter, he's on the record saying as much. He's not going to make a cartoon about little girls punching an evil drag queen and a trained monkey so hard their brains fall out. His shows have been getting progressively softer and preachier, this one too will be sanitized and pumped full of diversity, so not much better from 2016 version. Again, if it gets made at all. The way he's been talking about it sounds like this reboot might not be a proper series, and apparently he's still developing a pitch?
In any case, Craig is not compatible with og PPG anymore, but I think he's still compatible with WoY, which happens to be my favorite Craig show and the one that was cut short and never got a proper ending. But he will never finish it, and it's pissing me off.
>>148954293Craig probably wants to make WOY but Disney won’t let him.
>>148951330 (OP)Every single one of them is going to be literal baby shit.
>>148954354Jaysus, how does Rebecca Sugar look like she’s in her 50s already?
>>148954293You’re kind of stupid, aren’t you?
>>148954374with the SU fandom I'm surprised she doesn't look older
>>148954251>>148954261Tartakovsky is holding his own. Sugar looks like a 50 year old lesbian, Quintel really needs to cut his hair. The hipster surfer thing isn’t really working anymore. Ward looks like he actually lost weight. Good for him! He’d look alright if he wore a casual button down shirt. Muto is nearly unrecognizable. It’s like he’s animorphing into a pumpkin but is stuck at a midway point. Dunno who far left or 3rd from left are. Execs? Hosts?
>>148954251>Penn wearing a WFMU shirtBased
>>148954397That's Craig McCracken on the far left. 3rd left is Linda Simensky who was an executive at CN.
>nothing was announced
Thank god. Please let Sugar just be there to promote the adventure time movie and her new album instead of steven universe bullshit
>>148954409This was just the retrospective. Announcements tomorrow.
>>148954407Holy shit!! I didn’t recognize him with the super long hair and hat. Wonder what made him decide to grow out the mane? I don’t know that it’s doing him any favors.
>>148954409> her new albumWhen will it end
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>>148954422I will buy 100 of her albums before I let Steven universe come back!
>>148954441Omg, an animator was high while working?!
>>148954446Fallacy of false binary.
24 hours until the presentation. See you fuckers then
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Most of the presenters today will return tomorrow for the new announcements.
>>148954687>revival >revival >trio of spin-offs >revival >preschool spin-off Are studio executives really so cowardly that they won't even let their showrunner veterans pitch new ideas? Genndy's the only one getting to make new shit
>>148954379I don't know about him, but (you) certainly are.
>>148954703Which is probably why he’s not in tommorow’s panel lmao
>>148954293Craig's job is to make cartoons. He pitched like 14 originals and nobody was interested. Networks wanted to bring back Fosters and PPG, and since making cartoons is his job and those were his options, that's what he's doing.
The only choice he really has is working or not working and, despite what anons seem to think on /co/, creators aren't really rolling in it (especially when they need to support a family).
He didn't choose not to finish WoY, and he didn't choose to specifically work on PPG over the option to work on WoY. It wasn't in the cards. I'm sure he would have liked to finish WoY too. Your autistic rage is misdirected towards McCracken when he's a victim of shitty industrial circumstances. Be mad at execs.
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KEK the claims that /co/ makes about Pendleton Ward not drawing are true
>>148955228The black pill is he’d be rolling in money and retired right now, if he simply left Los Angeles and moved almost literally anywhere else in the country that isn’t a scam
>>148951330 (OP)>what do you think they'll have slated?Nothing because they're being repurposed into another branch of WBA without their IP
>>148955438I can't keep track of these retarded pill colors and what they signify, but when your work is based in studios that are all in one city, it's difficult to move away from that city. Some animators can work remotely, but that doesn't fly when you're the creator/showrunner.
>>148955228I feel bad for Craig, because one of those 14 could have been golden. Could have is the key word, these studios need to take risks again. Like honestly, did any of the execs back in the day think stuff like PPG, Dexter and EE&E were gonna be the big names they are now, like when they fist greenlight them?
>>148954251>CN is run by this cabal of hospice patients No wonder this industry is dead
>>148955504You are aware What A Cartoon existed, no?
>>148955516you buffoon
you clown
you utter fool
who do you think started cartoon network
>>148955519That's on me for forgetting, wish they did something like that again.
>>148955228I find it hard to believe.
There are tons of animators like Hirsch who make like 1 popular cartoon then live off royalties or someshit. I doubt Craig's family would starve if he chose to do something else or even stopped working. I mean, he's married to the woman who made the forbidden pastel horse cartoon, his last cartoon ended only a couple years ago, and the fact that he and his wife were able to pursue a career in animation suggests they weren't poor to begin with.
He probably wanted to make that reboot. He even put PPG knockoffs in Kid Cosmic to shit on the live action show, so I guess he cares. But like I said, I doubt he's able to make a good revival in this day and age. I think it will be very different at the very least.
>>148955596>like Hirsch who make like 1 popular cartoon then live off royalties or someshit1) Hirsch is single and (relatively) young. His living expenses are lower and he can be a bit more frivolous or frugal as he sees fit. He's also been creating new properties related to GF. He's published 3 books so far which help keep him afloat (aside from the guest work he does on other shows - producing/VA/consultation/writing)
2) Hirsch voiced a lot of characters in his show (and those of friends). This is a hack to get more cash because you get paid for each of those characters AND you get residual checks which can be substantial. Both Doc and Jackson from Venture Bros have spoken about their sweet sweet SAG checks in their DVD commentary. McCracken doesn't voice act.
3) Faust didn't "make the forbidden pastel horse cartoon". She was showrunner, but that's not the same as being the creator of an original IP. The show may have been popular, but that doesn't really come back to her when it comes to payment on the back end.
4) Why would McCracken choose to do something else? Just because he'd prefer to work on another project doesn't mean he should quit an industry he has honed skills and clout in. That's objectively stupid. Work is work.
5) I don't know why /co/ thinks that only rich people pursue animation. Some animators come from upper middle class backgrounds, but the vast majority do not. They go into debt going to school and then get a job as a barista while they try to get their foot in the door. Occasionally a few lucky ones get poached directly out of school. Animation is an industry. The rich kids usually go into fine art.
6) McCracken is on record saying that the only reason he's doing Fosters and PPG is because those are the only things networks want.
>I find it hard to believe.That's a you problem.
You're very mad and I doubt anything I could say could pierce the thick veil of neuro-divergence that has you fixated on this. Best of luck with that.
>>148955769>I don't know why /co/ thinks that only rich people pursue animationThat's just chuds building a strawman to rail against because they've been conditioned to despise artists as social/political enemies
The funny part is those same people built that idea off the historical fact that art tended to be either the domain of the independently wealthy or else funded by the government or a rich patron before the economic boom post-WW2, but when faced with the precipitous drop in revenue/investment that came with streaming killing TV ads they plug their ears and go "NO NO PEOPLE JUST HATE CARTOONS NOW"
>>148955380>Rebecca drew Marceline instead of a character from her own showWhat did she meant by this?
>>148955769Plus, isn't Craig getting some money from preschool Foster's? It's not one but two of his old shows getting rebooted at the same time. This is crossing the line.
>Why would McCracken choose to do something else?Idk, and why would others? I think it's relatively uncommon to have as many original animated shows under one's belt as Craig.
>You're very madWhat a strange thing to say after crapping out a massive passive aggressive wall of text capped off with insults.
>>148955881What went wrong in your education that you think having your IP gobbled up by giant corporations makes you rich
>>148955881>This is crossing the line.You should contact him and tell him that. I'm sure he'd appreciate being made aware of his transgressions.
>why would others?Because they want to. Look, some people are software developers too and they decide it's no longer for them, so they move on. Other people feel comfortable in the life they've built and even though they may not be working on their dream project, they would rather have a vocation doing. something they're good at and have some status in than anything else.
>What a strange thing to say after crapping out a massive passive aggressive wall of textFacts are not passive aggressive
>>148955916I wouldn't pay too much attention. The average /co/tard has no idea how the industry (or the real world in general) works.
>>148954703>cowardlykill yourself
its time to save the animation industry
you want art?
do it yourself faggot
>>148955504>Like honestly, did any of the execs back in the day think stuff like PPG, Dexter and EE&E were gonna be the big names they are nowWe need someone like Mike Lazzo at the head again. Kids trashed ppg in test screenings but he was the one that reassured Craig of its potential.
>>148953083>"first looks from the always original Cartoon Network Studios">it's mostly reboots and revivalscan't wait to see regular show revamped for 2020's audiences!
>>148955847It means she self-inserted hard into that character with all of her problems and woes and music.
>>148954105How do you know anything about Wander but not know it was cancelled? The whole point people still talk about it returning is because they had a third season planned to explore Wander as a character after Hater was given S2 (at least the arc-based episodes.)
This says a lot about society
>>148955847Hopefully its indicative that shes not making a new SU show and she really is just there to promote her album and the new adventure time movie shes working on.
Adam Muto and Genndy Tartakovsky call out David Zaslav in just wanting reboots and spin-offs, i would say Disney but the only reboots are just two (Phineas & Proud Famoly)
>Tartakovsky wasn’t so sure about the scalability or reliability of those models to result in long-term commercial successes, though. “IP is the only word now,” he proposed, lamenting studios’ current focus on rebooting existing franchises. “It’s harder for a new generation to break out like this again when [the studios] are just trying to do things that already exist,” echoing a plea Mudo made during the anniversary panel for studios and broadcasters to “start greenlighting things, please.”
https://variety.com/2025/film/global/mccracken-tartakovsky-sugar-quintel-ward-cartoon-network-1236424796/
>>148957358So why isn't he doing anything about it?
Just sitting and saying shit isn't gonna save animation. Man he's more cucked than Vincent Waller is. Do these guys not have any backbone anymore?
Like if this was the late 90s he'd call Zaslav a fucking faggot, but now he's too scared because he doesn't wanna lose his job and would rather take it up the rear instead of standing up for animation and what it once stood for.
>“There are people who are making independent animated shows themselves,” McCracken said, pointing to projects like Vivienne Medrano’s hugely popular YouTube pilot-turned-Prime original series “Hazbin Hotel” as evidence that a new wave is possible, though likely through free online platforms such as YouTube first, not television. “You almost go the independent route first, get noticed, get an audience, and then the channels and the streamers.”
I get what he's saying but really from all the indie shows you use Viv trash?
https://variety.com/2025/film/global/mccracken-tartakovsky-sugar-quintel-ward-cartoon-network-1236424796/
>>148957390All this nigga is doing is complaining
"WAHHH IM TOO OLD TO MAKE CARTOONS SO IM GONNA PRAISE THIS INDIE ONE WAHHHHH IM OLD AND CAN'T MAKE SHIT MYSELF ANYMORE"
It's getting fucking old, Craig should just fucking retire at this point.
>>148957281There was the stinger with the space chimp, probably connected to Hater's backstory, and they didn't really redeem Dominator at the end, she was just defeated and she fucked off. I think they wanted to make like 2 more seasons, each devoted to redeeming a major villain. And yeah, there were also hints of Wander's backstory that never went anywhere. I think they had a bunch of things planned.
>>148957407Harsh but I agree.
All these old artists do is complain about the industry instead of just doing things themselves.
>>148957390I really hate when someone of note gives an acknowledgement to people who don't deserve it. Like you know Viv is probably creaming her pants about getting a callut by McCracken but couldn't care less about anything other than getting her garbage promoted in a visible way.
>>148957464Craig probably only mentioned her because he wants her audience to care about him.
>>148954583Nice to see Annecy accommodating a few residents from Whoville, very inclusive of them
>>148954374>>148954583She looks older because of her choice in haircut and eyeglasses combined with the grey hair which she is choosing not to dye. Her skin is actually really nice, good complexion, no wrinkles. That's how you can tell it's literally just her fashion choices 'aging' her. Seems like she likes to keep it very natural (and she started going grey young) which would be lower maintenance than otherwise.
>>148957390Viv is the most successful, why not use her as an example?
>>148957635Viv and her work are horrendous.
>>148956913That's kind of how things used to work. Execs acting on gut.
This doesn't apply specifically to this case with ppg and Lazzo since I don't know how involved he was (nor had I heard that anecdote until just now), but the old model was that an exec would get a good feeling about a pitch and essentially become the champion for that show. They'd be the one to convince other people to get on board, push it through all the red tape, and get it to air. If it was a success, they'd reap the benefits and harvest the clout/promotions. And if it tanked, they ate crow.
The problem is that contemporary execs are a bunch of pussies. They lack conviction.
>>148957627She's ugly so she always looked like a hag. Older women start developing a manface, but hers was there to begin with. It's hard to tell if she's aging or not.
>>148951330 (OP)Regular Show is less than 24 hours away from being Twitterfied. Not going to lie, I'm having a really fucking bad time right now. Reviving anything I've ever liked and twisting it to suit the current generation of bullshit is getting old.
>>148957390>>148957407>>148957464This is pure speculation, but I'd imagine while Craig is aware of the indie zeitgeist, he's likely not as "plugged in" as he might have been when he was younger. It's possible that Hazbin is one of the few "indie" productions that's actually on his radar.
As big as we think stuff happening with other high profile productions are right now, they often fly under the radar of people who work solely in the mainstream industry. I've worked on a handful of some higher profile indie productions, but when you talk with people who have only dealt with network stuff for the last decade or so, they often have NO idea what you're talking about.
>>148957444Based dilworth is still making stuff independently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eic4a0RSXaI
>>148958382I'm so sorry for you.
I wonder what Famicom's thoughts on this are?
>>148958558SHHHHH, don't summon him
Hoping we finally get some news about this
>>148957635That would be Amazing Digital Circus
>>148958942of course /co/ would like trash like that
>>148957390based Craig, I like him again
>>148958942I would think so.
>>148959426Shut up retard
>>148958942damn, Sue Ellen got FAT
>>148959529I tried reading it and it's fucking awful. Why do people on this board push shit like this constantly and then get furious when someone points out it's bad? It used to be the opposite, with people openly mocking shit like this, with a few niche followers insisting it's good. Now everything's ass fucking backward. I'm starting to think the /co/mblr meme wasn't just a joke.
>>148959611There's a guy always super livid any time SMMA gets ragged on and constantly annoyed that anyone would think JG doesn't fit this kind of series, despite how much better it'd match with Adventure Time crew. Like this is the sort of comic you'd expect to see a board artist on AT create on their social media in their spare time. The vague connections to "wacky creatures in domestic situations" and "crude humor" isn't really enough to make this feel like JG, and I suspect people who believe so probably barely watched Regular Show and only remember/know the general vibe.
Then again about the time Regular Show was ending he did say he was getting into "New Girl", so I guess Cali got to him years ago. Maybe he is just like the AT crew by now. Hard to tell since Close Enough was bogged down like 5+ writers per 11 minute episode so you never know who caused what even with the wife being openly proclaimed a feminst and wanting Candace to play with non-gendered toys (which was used for an actually good joke but still shows Emily as a character.) Also the entire feminist uprising episode where the patriarchy has flags of penises and the guys step on women as they scrub the floors was really fucking bad but I wanted to believe that was some other writer not getting turned down with their wacky chaotic sexism idea.
>>148959611picrel is kinda funny.
>>148959699The problem with trying to understand JG is that we only really know him from his first series, and how that showed he loves bro humor and vibes. So when you get another work under his name that demonizes bro culture and treats men like gross perverted scum and weird white-guilt humor, and talking about how bad women have it, you'd naturally assume it was someone else's fault, especially since he doesn't share opinions online like everyone else. But he could've changed at any time, he's always living around people like this and he's gonna acclimate.
The new Regular Show could have a dyke haired human girl as the protagonist and it'd still be a matter of "the execs requested it and he complied because he's nice and chill" or "he just wanted to." He could flat out say that he wants to explore LGBT themes, thinks white privilege or any big controversial topic is a problem, and it'd still be a matter of "he's just going with the flow because this is what the people he's around tells him matters most" or simply "he actually just does want to do this stuff." It's always going to be plausible deniability at this point, because the industry is following very obvious trends and so are the people working under it, if you want in you gotta fit. I think the only thing that'd prove he's changed is if he got active on socials with shitty opinions and arguing with people like every other creative. Thankfully, he's pretty reserved except that one time he posted about putting a baby to sleep by shooting it.
I expect Regular Show's revival to be pretty "modernized" and following expected cultural trends, and commentary to fall back on this again. Did JG become woke? No no, he's just not putting his foot down because he's nice. But it's pretty woke, he still signed off on it... but you just gotta do what you gotta do for a show now. Repeated until the revival ends. If you're lucky CJ will come back and people will just focus on her and the rest will be background noise.
>>148959852>>148959611I know cutting comics down by a few panels to make them "funnier" is a meme but in this case it's actually true
I think the only thing CN needs is edgier, less conventional or safe media. It needs a reason to watch it, and not another gay show filled with therapy speak made for 30 something year old failures to thrive like Adventure Time or Steven Universe.
It needs a show that says "fuck your sensibilities; I'm not here to pat you on the back or say the exact words you think you need to hear. I'm here to have a good time". Something that makes people stop, point, and look at it while its doing its thing.
Samurai Jack was actually like that. And Power Puff Girls (barring the feminist episode that seems kinda incongruent with the rest of the shows irreverent tone.) And Dexter's Lab, of course, where Dex could get massively shat on in his own show because he's an asshole, or bully working dudes like janitors or ice cream men.
Today, in big '25, we can have cartoons that attract attention just like they did in the 90s. And I'm sure Craig knows this, its the stupid executives that don't understand.
>>148959970Yeah it's almost like without the writing of girls lashing out about periods, getting mad about sexism, and being relateably, frustratedly gay and feeling bad while being a dick to everyone else, something could actually be funny. But it was created by a woman in the 2010's (literally a tumblr webcomic) who is a self-proclaimed feminist and says feminism shaped her life, so most of the build-up needed to be a novel-length lashing at a guy for 2 words, then revealing he's disgusting about tampons anyway. Best-seller! Coming soon to Adult Swim!
>>148959997they just need to make it cool to watch again. the shit they have been putting out for the last 15 years have just been gay and lame. and you know kids and normies will avoid anything thats gay and lame
>>148959970That last panel is only funny because of the subversion. She goes on a rant about how immature that guy is to pulling that prank.
>>148959997>I think the only thing CN needs is edgier, less conventional or safe media.>It needs a show that says "fuck your sensibilities; I'm not here to pat you on the back or say the exact words you think you need to hear. I'm here to have a good time". Something that makes people stop, point, and look at it while its doing its thing.True but that isn't as profitable as anything Nick and Disney are doing
>>148960077No dumbass, they put the tampons around him.
>>148959611That's not even that bad of a comic.
I know SU fans are desperate for an announcement tommorow, but keep in mind the woman is working on two movies from separate studios and making an album. So even if you think its ok the show should come back after all the episodes and content it got, you would get the worst version she could give at this time.
Unless she told Ian that he can take over for her. But if she did he would be at Annecy alongside her.
>>148960148>A prequel series that's a slice of life pseudo-harem about Greg, Rose-Quartz and the Crystal Gems helmed by IanDon't give them false hope like I did
>>148951330 (OP)What does Ward do anyways? Muto pretty much runs his franchise since 2010
>>148960115aight then here it is with the "Grow up, you're immature" but without the deranged ranting
>>148960245The intensity of the ranting makes it funnier imo.
>>148960124Well good for them, doesn't really change it from shitty female comedy after the long-winded bitching about sexism for finding periods gross, and them thinking it's payback. That's how those 2 girls are (the other one is a girl.) They bitch and moan about current society and dudes, but it's considered fine because they have their own ways of lashing out that attempts painting their outlook comedically. You also get a strip where the short haired lesbian gets mad about guys assuming women are bubbly idiots, then when the girl shows up and is bubbly and ruins her point, she punches her.
/co/ shits on Mordecai for being bad with women and a simp, apparently making him the worst protagonist of the last decade, but will love this character guaranteed.
>>148960369This feels like a show you'd find on Netflix, I wonder why they didn't scout this for an adaption and it took all the way until Adult Swim desperately seeking female audiences, being the network to save female-led shows like Tuca & Bertie when even Netflix didn't want it anymore. Like this existed throughout the entirety of the 2010's including the second half when everyone was trying to prove they're progressive, but it took until 2024 for someone to say "this definitely needs a cartoon" and it's just because Adult Swim is the most desperate of all networks.
>>148960114Stop projecting
>>148959997Adventure Time wasn’t that
>>148959426If JG is handling it, it might be fine
>>148960470The early half was lol randumb adventures before it turned into some gay melodrama
Skibidi and Digital Circus are the most important animations of this decade
>>148960369We're not supposed to think they're justified. The joke is that they are immature hypocrites. A character doing something doesn't mean the author endorses said behaviour, obviously. Same with the one you just posted. It's funny because it's an extreme overreaction.
>>148960438Actually it reminds me of a lot of stuff I keep seeing advertised for Hulu currently. They seem to be a more recent home for "women trying to make it in a man's world" feminist shows (which sometimes get promoted on the front page of Disney+) I don't doubt Netflix is still doing their thing but I don't see them really advertised. If this show didn't get picked up until this year instead, maybe it could've just ended up on Hulu like a lot of animation now like Gumball may end up.
>>148960478If the base product is a problem I don't see how he'd be able to "fix" anything. You can choose not to adapt those certain strips about tampons and the gay teacher getting whipped in bondage but do you expect an overhaul on the main characters' personalities or soomething?
>>148960487The first half wasn’t therapy bullshit
>>148960206Prequel would genuinely be the worst case scenario for everyone
>flashback to generic war where nobody can die and even if they die they're confirmed to be revived by the time of Future>none of the character development the fans like is in it, everyone has regressed to how they were thousands of years ago>most of the fan favorites wont show up (amethyst and peridot havent been born yet, Spinel is stuck on a rock)
>>148960513You're very clearly supposed to feel bad for them as they mope about everything and how they have to deal with things and their lashing out. This is why the series is annoying, because it's not a Diary of a Wimpy Kid situation where the unlikeable protagonist causes her own problems and pays for it and it's supposed to be cathartic with awareness, they actually expect you to invest in the emotions and outlashes they have as understandable through their lens. It's like you've just missed the past 10 years of media with bitchy girl protags who outwardly get violent when they're mad about dumb shit and you're still supposed to sympathize with them. Her being a shitty person isn't really handled the way it should be with what you're saying.
>>148959611>>148960369>>148960617is all these characters ever talk about being independent women and closeted homos? the only other image i've seen from this with one of these characters was the short haired one being mad she has to put on deodorant in the morning because guys should consider themselves lucky they get to smell her body odor (because someone posted about it being hot, so yeah people will like this when it airs)
>>148953873You say that like any of these ARTISTs have a say in the matter what corporate drones who watch numbers go up and down for a living will want new thing when old thing has market value. Shut the fuck up retarded slop drinker.
>>148960670Yep welcome to Millennial humor. That's all they know.
>>148960470>>148960524Most of Adventure Time exists as therapy bullshit. I know the early 25% wasn't, but that doesn't seem to matter anymore.
>>148960523>but do you expect an overhaul on the main characters' personalities or soomething?Sure? What even are their personalities?
>>148960686I don’t remember the series being “therapy bullshit”
>>148960679What's your point? Are you illiterate or something?
>>148960617You can sympathise with a character while recognising their behaviour is wrong.
>>148960524I really hate the trend of stuff these days (really the past long while) just being obnoxious comfort sessions for the creators. Didn't really need a follow-up to Adventure Time about a girlfailure going on an epic anime quest and meeting gay self-cest fanfiction AUs just for Simon's story to end with... going to fucking therapy and learning he didn't respect his now-God fiancee enough.
>>148960719Depends on what you count. All the daddy issues shit that kept coming up for every god damn character wasn't fun either. They couldn't help themselves, every father figure except Joshua was free game to be terrible, even Jake himself had to make up for being a bad dad. Then they introduce that Jake has an alien father just to give him a bad dad since they didn't want to touch Joshua at least.
>>148960752These characters aren't sympathetic at all, which is the problem when the creator clearly thinks you should care about them.
>>148960743>Are you illiterate or something?You might be projecting anon.
>>148960713He doesn't know either, he just wants to complain. Its just a bunch of gag comics with generic teens. Could easily be passable if done right.
>>148960791Everyone figured out their personalities in this thread already, don't know why you're so instigative and dismissive about it just because the reaction is negative.
>>148960763>Didn't really need a follow-up to Adventure Time about a girlfailure going on an epic anime quest and meeting gay self-cest fanfiction AUs just for Simon's story to end with... going to fucking therapy and learning he didn't respect his now-God fiancee enough.I want it to continue only to spite people like you and others who think the show should just be "xd random" early 10s humor with no ambition.
>>148960811No you didn't, its just the one feminist rant comic that could be a throwaway moment.
>>148960763> Didn't really need a follow-up to Adventure Time about a girlfailure going on an epic anime quest and meeting gay self-cest fanfiction AUs just for Simon's story to end with... going to fucking therapy and learning he didn't respect his now-God fiancee enough.This are elements that were already present in the series, but to each his own
>>148960811Judging from that post and
>>148960814 this thread is just starting to be overrun by typical grifters trying to stir up arguments. Might as well just wait until the news tomorrow and ignore whatever shit keeps bumping this thread. Whatever of note happens tomorrow will get its own thread anyway (which grifters will be waiting to jump on regardless, as is the state of this board.)
>>148960852Grifting implies that there’s something to earn from this bullshit
>>148960852>by typical griftersYOU guys are the grifters with your endless complaining and propaganda about how LA is the devil and wants to ruin children
>>148960877>”That guy is a retarded faggot.”>“But what about muh?!”This is your argument
>>148960877No one has talked about your exaggerated bullshit in this thread about ruining children. You saw because series are produced in LA and people know LA have their own culture and focus on that, which in turn gives people reason to not expect much else with newer productions, that it'll probably continue. It's really not a "woe is us the children" situation in this thread at all, so thanks for proving you just showed up trying to start fires.
>>148960898>>148960899Aren't you retards supposed to be protesting or something? Or is that just a grift too?
>>148960769Nobody forced Craig at gunpoint to make PPG reboot. He's adding to the problem, because if he didn't say yes maybe the suits wouldn't bother rebooting it again so soon after the live action show debacle. Also if it's shit it's a special kind of hell for the fans, because it's harder to ignore the reboot if the original creator worked on it.
I also remember him saying he doesn't want to work for disney ever again. So unless I'm mistaken, he wouldn't finish WoY even if they offered. He will make another unnecessary PPG reboot though.
So yeah, the industry is at fault, no shit, but Craig is complicit.
>>148960923Nothing like this was happening in the thread at all. You saw "feminist" and wanted to derail the thread that was discussing what to expect with these newer shows, because yes, the creator of that comic was a feminist and her comic sucks. That's the start and end of the discussion, beyond if people agree or disagree if it's enjoyable. You can leave now, I'm sure there's plenty of active threads on the board right now where your random attempt at controversy will line up with something actually happening.
>>148960898Bitch made reply.
>>148960899Yeah you're stirring up culture war shit, we know already, you don't need to explaining vaguely to make yourself look good.
>>148960957You are bitching about shit in this thread
>>148960955No one should listen to you, you're opinions aren't valuable at all because you're disingenuous
>>148960852Right on the money. Guess discussion's done until the disappointing announcements.
>>148960617Nah JG will put his own unique spin on this
>I will personally say when discussion is done so I can feel better about myself
>>148957938>The problem is that contemporary execs are a bunch of pussies. They lack conviction.No, they're actually TOO controlling. It reminds of that situation with Final Space, where they wanted to dumb down his show so it can fit in line with other prime time comedy. It's stupid since the pilot clearly hints at drama the whole time.
>>148960852>grifting is when someone likes something I don't like
>>148960791>Could easily be passable if done right.Such a neutral take that is taken as "instigative"
>>148961040It'll probably blur together honestly. In RS the guys were already kinda shitty to each other but in an obvious roughhousing fighting bros way. People will just correlate the two writing styles as the same. Like Mordecai punching Rigby will be compared to Marsha punching normal people as equally unlikeable, even though Mordecai has known Rigby since they were babies and they're basically brothers who often don't get along with Mordecai being like the meaner older brother, but when they do can even sync brainwaves and sing songs together and pal around. They're there for each other, despite them both being dicks to each other. The only real comparison I could see is early Rigby being like Marsha where he clearly gets tired of everyone easily but he never attacks people just because. It was even a whole plotpoint in the Skunked episode where he got violent and apologized because that wasn't who he was.
Marsha doesn't have to be skunked, she is a permanently a skunk.
>>148961145Yeah just ignore the part where he chimed into someone's conversation of somebody asking a question just to say "he doesn't know the answer to your question because he's bad and only wants to complain." That's not instigative at all, clearly he just meant the specific part you want to spin around to something else.
>>148961166Fuck off grifter
>>148961173Man, you really got mad for getting called out for starting to shitpost earlier huh.
>>148961173Yeah this is accurate. I guess we can end discussion here since anon just want to complain and grift about how hollywood wants to ruin kids.
>>148961195truth. Some anons here are just crazy.
>>148960955>You saw feminist.. Thats all I needed to hear fuck off grifting faggot.
We don't need you millennial faggots running our animation industry and forcing gay and woke shit down our throats. Go out and protest like your buddies, get some fresh air.
>>148960452sure thing fag
>>148960148>>148960206Ian has something with Disney since February, the fact he's not at Annecy says many things.
>>148961434>the fact he's not at Annecy says many things.yeah, like it might be too soon to announce anything you pretentious twat
I would feel bad for him if they don't announce SU stuff tomorrow
>>148961788Please god I only ask you to make him miserable.
He insulted a kid with cancer, he deserves it.
>>148960763>These characters aren't sympathetic at allThey're just angsty teenagers, them being stupid assholes comes with the territory. Rigby and Mordecai were assholes too, but they don't have the age excuse.
>>148960957>Bitch madePost hand, and we'll judge the closeness of its color to shit.
>>148961788Based on the fact that Rebecca prefer to draw Marceline than her own characters i doubt we will get a new show as
>>148960148 said, she's busy working in Matt Braly's new film at Sony and the Adventure Time movie + her new album
>>148957358Gennedy is just seething because Uniflop was such a disaster
>>148959997The feminist episode of PPG is based because they beat up the radfem.
Will they still seethe that CN cartoons got BTFO by the anime they brought over?
>>148951330 (OP)Based Adult Swim delivers while other studios either do babyslop or nothing
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/smiling-friends-adult-swim-renewed-two-seasons-interview-1236262230/
>>148965127And they still have a full panel of new shows coming next
>>148965672No anon there is no livestream
>>148955532>comparing billionaire Ted to those faggots>thinking any of those queers have the business acumen of the man who propelled WCW and the Braves into cultural permanence
5 minutes until Steven Universe returns and our lives are changed forever.
5 minutes until CN gets BTFOd by anime once again
>>148965955Why are there so many old people? All I see are millennials and boomers which fits because that's the only people that watch CN and AS now. Very bleak.
>>148965964These are closed events
Only people who show up are animators, press, and business types
>>148965982I know, where's the younger talent?
99 percent of the people here probably get offended over being a faggot and have panic attacks daily.
We'll find out what gets announced in the next hour or so.
Meanwhile Smiling Friends got renewed for S4 and S5
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/smiling-friends-adult-swim-renewed-two-seasons-interview-1236262230/
>>148965955Streets saying Rebecca will be there to announce something
>Fixed will have a sex scene between main dog, female love interest, and another guy dog
Kino incoming
>>148966029>most critic reviews are ravesKind of surprised. Even if the movie is actually mid, I appreciate them giving it a dose of good publicity.
>>148965955For the record they made everyone put their phones away, so no recordings or texting will be permitted. There will be an official news publication after the panel is over, so unless someone is sneaky Solid Snake style, we wont find out about anything until an hour from now.
>>148957384>more cucked than Vincent WallerHow is Vincent cucked? He transformed SpongeBob into the one place where artists have freedom.
>>148966218Hope it gets international release
Steven Universe sequel announced
>>148966265You almost got me
>>148966265Can confirm, and its starring Chris Pratt
One person tweeted that something SU was shown and she sang a fionna and cake song.
>>148966265Can confirm Rebecca mentioned it will have a sex scene between Jasper and Greg
Teen Titans Go! S10 greenlit
Gumball S7 (teaser, new trailer, new intro)
Adventure Time Side Quests (new intro)
Fionna and Cake 2 (trailer, new intro)
Regular Show (nothing new)
Super Mutant Magic Academy (animatic and charadesign)
Rebecca Sugar was brought on stage to sing Part of the Madness… and after that, she said she misses her character (like Simon misses being Ice King). And that's why she announced a new show: Steven Universe Lars of the Stars for Amazon.
You thought I was fucking joking
https://x.com/midoumir/status/1932797324159246717
A show about Lars is the most boring and safest choice. Its separate enough from the main show that I guess it can stand on its own, and at the very least its not just Steven bawling again. But chances are youre not gonna see any of your faves, or at least not as any more than cameos. We dont even know if its set after Future or inbetween the time Lars was kidnapped. Which would be even worse and ten times funnier.
>>148966374>Steven Universe Lars of the Stars really? fucking lars?
>>148966403also Amazon, wtf? Why would Max not pick this up.
>>148966410The new Batman show is in amazon, this is the least surprising news.
Ian also teased something about Amazon forever ago with a tweet he deleted, guess this was it.
>>148966374>Super Mutant Magic AcademyLol
If they confirm Lars X Emerald there might be some salvation to this mid show.
If they confirm Lars X Steven there might be some salvation to this mid show
>>148966410They can't afford to release anything in their own service
>>148966374For real? lol
>zombie show>revival>AT>more AT>pointless remake>some tumblr trash>spinoff no one asked forWow.
>>148966374I hope they publish the intros/trailers.
Rebecca genuinely wanting to do a Lars show and Ian wanting to do a Pride Troopers show is just indicative of how they completely miss what people actually care about from their shows. This is why I hate when I see comments in any series where its "boy I would love to see a spinoff of these characters" because chances are they could do it, and it would not be as interesting as what you had before.
>‘Steven Universe: Lars of the Stars’ Unveiled in Annecy: Studios Sneak Peek New ‘Regular Show,’ ‘Foster’s,’ ‘Adventure Time,’ ‘Gumball’ Series
https://variety.com/2025/tv/global/steven-universe-lars-of-the-stars-annecy-teen-titans-go-1236427960/
>Executive produced by Sugar alongside her partner and “OK K.O.! Let’s Be Heroes” creator Ian Jones-Quartey, “Steven Universe: Lars of the Stars” will follow up on the original show, tracking fan-favorite character Lars Barriga, described as an “eternal teenager and space outlaw.” According to the official description, the sequel series will chart Lars and his pirate crew as they “smuggle contraband, evade the authorities, and uncover the darkest secrets of the fallen Gem Empire.”
>The original “Steven Universe” became a cultural phenomenon during its 2013–2020 run, earning a Peabody Award for its storytelling, diversity and emotional depth. This new chapter promises to explore the “past, present and future of the Steven Universe universe,” deepening the lore of the series that redefined modern animation.
>Several clips and images were shared from the show’s second season, which made it clear that the Huntress character will play a much larger role this time around.
hell yeah
>>148966479I would actually like a pride trooper spinoff... At least the characters are hot and there would probably be some plot and action unlike Daily Lives of Adolescent Hambeasts over there.
>>148966543DON'T TURN HER GAY
DON'T TURN HER GAY
DON'T TURN HER GAY
DON'T TURN HER GAY
DON'T TURN HER GAY
New Fosters show is not dead and was shown
Noting on PPV
>>148966489>>148966535Ian being involved means it may not be complete shit, but what authorities? They dismantled the gem empire already. Or are they backtracking on that already?
Thats whats so weird, this type of show works when you make it about a rebel without a cause fleeing an oppresive regime, but that was already destroyed by the end of SU. I guess you could say yellow zircon won the election and made everything worse, but like...what could Lars do that the crystal gems cant?
"Dark secrets of gem empire" is so funny because you are only digging yourselves a bigger grave Rebecca. Wanna show me the fucked up stuff the Diamonds did? The same ones that are free to do whatever they want and happy with their Spinel? Sure, please tell me all their war crimes and proceed to do NOTHING about punishing the Diamonds for their crimes.
If I had any faith in her I would say this is her way of mending the bad will she has by actually adressing the concept of consequences for awful crimes in her universe. But I dont, so I expect a lot of crying and not a lot of punishments.
>>148966374>no update on the regular show revival at all but the magic academy shit has footage>new steven universeso it was just the gayest possible stuff
>>148966642Well it is pride month
>>148966547The characters are hot but you can just commision NSFW from artists online, you dont need a full series for that. And OK KO is supposed to be goofy and stupid, this would just be another semi-serious anime ripoff. And in terms of those I would rather have another invincible fight girl season than this shit.
>>148966665>this would just be another semi-serious anime ripoffYou say it like it's a bad thing. Lesbian power rangers are not really my cup of tea, but the art style is top tier. Also I miss OKKO which has like 0 chances of revival otherwise. You take what they give.
>>14896655010 episodes of Fionna and HW bonding <3
>>148966642No they didn’t announce a Snagglepuss show so we didn’t get max gay
>>148966374>Regular Show (nothing new)This shit is already said to be airing within the 2025-2026 season internationally, so it has to be about ready to air. What the fuck? They couldn't even just say "yeah it's called Lost Tapes, that information already got out there somehow"? No they don't even confirm the title. I woke up early for nothing.
>Fionna and Cake got a new opening, new song and a full trailer
>Nobody is giving any details
>its just everyone losing it over SU which only had one logo and description, zero footage or even an exclusive poster
What the fuck
>>148966928SU has always had an obnoxious stranglehold over internet fandom. I'd say this is second since the only other stuff was like, Gumball which doesn't have a very vocal following for news and Super Magic Gay Academy. Also the OTHER adventure time spinoff, the one actually focused on finn and jake again, probably doesn't matter to people anymore, since they successfully made people stop caring about finn and jake.
>>148966928Because if they are not going to upload the new song, trailer and opening online we have nothing to discuss
Honestly though, I would be dissapointed if I went to this panel and all the news are just trailers that will be out within a week on Youtube (or even this week) for shows that we already know existed, and the only new announcement being a spinoff centered around a character nobody actually cares about that has zero footage or key art, just a logo.
>>148967029I guess Rebecca and SU staff crying for a revival and crawling back to SU worked for them. I remember Amazon was even tossed around not too long ago.
>>148966535>fan-favorite character Lars BarrigaIs he really?
>>148967230He’s not but they had to save face somehow
>>148966547>>148966665>>148966756Hey, we need more animated dramas. I'm all for it.
>>148966579It's probably running around the ruins.
Man they must've done a good job keeping people's phones tucked away. I'm used to regardless of convention rules someone posting photos or something during a panel but not a single image has popped up beyond someone taking a picture of their williams street/cn sticker and the speakers yesterday. You'd think a lot of "LARS OF THE STARS REVEALED HOLY SHIT CREAMED MYSELF" pictures of the logo on display would've happened at least from SUfags
>>148967813Well its Annecy, not comic con.
See you all Friday for the actual cool announcements
>still no teaser art for Side Quests
This is bullshit
>>148966579Have you seen Ian's show? Villains getting away with awful crimes cause they are gay and sad is exactly his thing lmao
>>148967813It's press and industry people. They're not gonna jeopardize their own careers
>>148968080We had trailers for Gumball and F&C but nobody is talking about what they saw
>>148968106The difference is Ian’s show rarely took itself seriously, so it was ok then. Comedies can pull that off more than dramas.
>>148968080They successfully made people stop caring about Finn and Jake already so now the new hotness is DUDE HUNTRESS WIZARD AND FIONNA ARE GONNA MEET?!
>>148968206>but nobody is talking about what they saw why not? :(
>>148968220Were SU and OK KO really all that different tonally? Obviously OK KO was much sillier than SU, but it also had a lot of dramatic and tense moments that at the same time were not meant to be taken too seriously. This becomes crystal clear at the end where all major mysteries and overarching storyline turn out to be a series of running jokes and contrivances. So maybe that's the reason why SU often didn't live up to the fans' expectations. Maybe the shows had similar kind of writing all along, but it was less apparent in case of SU cause the show was less outwardly wacky?
>>148961015Bitchass coward
>>148969258You're still this mad? lmao
>>148969280You still here to whine? Bitch.
>>148959997The execs now are of the same mindset of the showrunners minus the fact they know TTGO makes more money than SU or ATdykeslop ever will
>>148969746Keep telling yourself that faggot
>nothing but spin-offs and revivals
Now this is just sad...
>>148970435Welcome back to the 80s bud
>>148970435Pretty grim, but it seems like the only popular animation that came out in the past 10 years has been published on youtube.
>>148970435Cartoon fans showing their hipocrisy when they squeal for revivals of IPs they like, but act like its the end of art when its an IP they dont like. It goes both ways.
>>148969227SU tried to talk about abuse and mental health while OK KO had as much drama as a typical shonen or comic book story. Both are very different and it was more acceptable for OK KO to let villains slide than SU. Especially since the world of KO was composed of superheroes and supervillains, part of the charm is that they both coexist eternally.
>Bringing back shows nobody asked for and ended 7 years ago.
>While there are non-LA creatives that you know want to bring back their shows.
Why is CN like this?
>>148971034>nobody asked forYou are disgenuous
>>148971081You replied to different anons
>>148971097Yeah I'm sure it's not just one person doing the same shit for 24 hours.
>>148960504Weird way of saying Steven Universe and Adventure Time.
>>148967282I think we need more comedies more than ever.
>>148966756OK KO deserves a revival more than 2000s garbage.
>>148971250Kys industrycuck
>>148968080Wow almost as if people are getting adventure dyke time fatigue
>>148971566Shut the fuck up faggot
>>148971621Kys adventure tranny
https://desuarchive.org/co/search/text/Shut%20the%20fuck%20up%20faggot/
>>148971694Cope, seethe and dilate retard
>>148966535>The original “Steven Universe” became a cultural phenomenonABIB, ABIB! We've got ABIB writing for Variety here!
>>148970743>SU tried to talk about abuse and mental healthSo did KO. The protagonist had an evil split personality born out of daddy issues, pressure to be the perfect little hero to make the useless adults around him proud, and a sense of helplessness when he fails. The missing dad who turned out to be the series' main villain had similar mental issues of his own and was an abusive dickwad. There's also a magical bisexualesbian who struggles with her indentity and is secretly insecure despite looking put together at first, and kinda evil green autistic chick who develops empathy thanks to her friendship with the protagonist. The show was wackier and zanier than SU but it had similar reveals and story beats as SU.
>Especially since the world of KO was composed of superheroes and supervillains, part of the charm is that they both coexist eternally.It's just a parody of capeshit dynamics that exist to a lesser extent in SU and most stories. Most major characters in SU can be classified as superheroes or supervillains. It's a story about genocidal space lesbian rocks and heroic space lesbian rocks trying to save Earth with the help of their boy wonder, not some grounded psychological drama. The characters (even the townies) are only slightly less weird than in OKKO.
>>148955847she gave her undead perky tits anon
get the sand out of your vah-jay-jay
>>148971034>nobody asked for and ended 7 years ago.Don't lie. People asked for more RS, Gumball and AT.
>>148972351Everyone said RS ended well despite the weaker later seasons and was glad it had a good finale. Fuck off and stop trying to force controversy.
>>148970712I'm waiting to see if there's even HALF as much enthusiasm if we get any news about the BoJack creator's new show tomorrow
>>148951330 (OP)Well... I guess it's true that the big three studios are not accepting original shows for now...
>>148972632That looks like cancer. Why would anyone be excited for a female lead that looks like that? You might as well wander into the YA section of a bookstore
>>148972632People liked BoJack because of the talking animals. This is going to flop.
>>148972632Why would there be? I mean, look at this thing.
>>148957358Despite some of his public statements, and despite what /co/ thinks of him, I always thought that Muto doesn’t really want to keep working on AT reboots until the day he dies
>>148973398w-what's wrong with it?
>>148973006After the political writing of Bojack just kept getting worse and worse it baffles me why anyone would point to the creator making something else, and with a character designed like that, and think "idk could be good. it's original sooo, we kinda have to worship it now"
>>148974222All of /co/ doesn’t want it
>>148959997We had Secret Mountain Fort Awesome and the artistic merit of the show was wasted on general audiences. It was a love letter to a very specific art movement and for that and the character dynamics I love it to bits.
>>148972241If you cant tell the difference between how SU handles drama and how OK KO does it then that's on you. Everyone else knows why it didn't work for steven and it did for KO.
>>148974874Hello there Ian
>>148974225Ugly as shit and not even in an interesting way
>>148975036Explain then?
My impression of SUfags is that they treated their show too seriously, while it's always been chock full of dumb shit like anime references, lame jokes, random singing, meme writing, and off-model animation. OKKO fans on the other hand were typically able to see their show for what it was: a children's cartoon. That's why SUfags' expectations were unrealistic, and that's why the same twists as in OKKO "didn't work" for SU.
>>148966374useless data point: I have never watched Steven Universe, but I browse /co/ too much and thought I had absorbed the gist of it through osmosis over the years. I've never, ever, seen anything about a "Lars"
>>148975672 There were fuckloads of threads about him getting cucked by a they/them.
>>148958942>Umbrella Academia but worse
>>148954251Is Adam Muto supposed to be Japanese? He looks like an Indian
>>148976846Probably some kind of Mutto
>>148976846I’ve that heard that he’s half hawaiaan
>>148957358A lot of the animation industries problem would be solved by just doing animated adaptations of things
The YA boom and many shows that were originally books were really successful and it's also how japan funds its animation industry, but for some reason they don't want to adopt this method
and i don't think it's solely because they don't want to fund original stuff; they most likely want to own an IP that they can have as their cash cow
it's why they avoid adapting works into animation, or they do shit like space jam where it's just an advertisement of all the IPs they own
>>148954261>the secret of a long life is a stress free life
>>148954251What the fuck are you expecting? Most of the works represented up there by their creators are 10 years old at the least, the oldest up to 30
>>148977240>The YA boomWhich is in turn full of a bunch of work inspired by shit like Steven Universe and influenced by modern politic crap we don't need any more of. So it's not like we'd be getting better cartoons. This one about a non-binary MC literally has them half-quote "I'm not a girl, I'm an experience" line to the principal based on SU. YA books are actually fucking awful.
>>148978073I bet you'd like an experience.