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Dredd Thredd
New comic books day edition
What’s everyone’s take on The Apocalypse War these days, since the comics can’t seem to let it go? Still top tier or a bit over rated?
Also, anyone actually keeping up with the newer stuff, or is it all about the classic Wagner/Grant era for you?

Post your favorite stories, artists, panels, whatever
Anonymous No.148965957 [Report] >>148966124 >>148967706 >>148967742 >>148973000 >>148986282 >>148992573 >>148998096 >>149004617 >>149008356 >>149009077
>>148965890 (OP)
>Favourite Panels
This one is a goodie.
Anonymous No.148966002 [Report] >>148967046 >>148967775
>>148965890 (OP)
I thought the new one, The 100 was pretty lacklustre for a multiparty story. Should have just been a 10 page one in the Megazine.
Anonymous No.148966124 [Report] >>148968618 >>148983068
>>148965957
Anonymous No.148966271 [Report] >>148966314 >>148966343 >>148968635
>>148965890 (OP)
Ezquerra is the most overrated artists Dredd has had.
Anonymous No.148966314 [Report]
>>148966271
He's the OG though.
Anonymous No.148966343 [Report] >>148967046 >>148967275
>>148966271
I like his art on a personal level but I have no clue why everyone is acting like it's the fucking Mona Lisa or even comparable to any other great 2000AD artist. Is it just all of the goodwill of being the OG Dredd guy bumping up his talent in other people's eyes?
Anonymous No.148966580 [Report] >>148966641 >>148967037 >>148967417 >>148967446 >>148968153 >>148969501 >>148980985 >>148982721 >>148995077 >>148995489
where's a good place to start Dredd? what's considered essential reading?
Anonymous No.148966641 [Report]
>>148966580
The Complete Case Files.
Anonymous No.148967037 [Report]
>>148966580
Case files 5.
Anonymous No.148967046 [Report] >>148967884 >>148980074
>>148966002
the megazine does 14 page stories

I get where you're coming from - the twist was obvious by the second part - but it's not an outright bad story like Inferno or Judgement Day

>>148966343
composition and style as much as anything

a lot of people hated his transition to digital colouring in the 90s but once he got a handle on it, it was fine
Anonymous No.148967275 [Report] >>148970917
>>148966343
He's not even top 5 artists of all time for the book.
Anonymous No.148967417 [Report] >>148968651
>>148966580
This isn't too bad to go by. However plenty of stuff worth reading has happened in those 9 years.
Anonymous No.148967446 [Report]
>>148966580
Late 80s- early 90s was the best era.
Anonymous No.148967706 [Report] >>148967724 >>148967742
>>148965957
They should do another werewolf story.
Anonymous No.148967724 [Report] >>148967742
>>148967706
Horror Judge Dredd comics are the best.
Anonymous No.148967742 [Report]
>>148965957
>>148967706
>>148967724
Anonymous No.148967775 [Report]
>>148966002
I too was disappointed by it. Felt very anticlimactic for a multi part story.
Anonymous No.148967884 [Report]
>>148967046
I thought he did a good job on Origins.
Anonymous No.148968153 [Report]
>>148966580
America is my personal favorite.
Anonymous No.148968295 [Report]
>>148965890 (OP)
Dredd nuking East-Meg One without blinking? That’s the character distilled into one moment. Justice.
Anonymous No.148968353 [Report] >>148972379
>>148965890 (OP)
I love the apocalypse war comics. Judge Dredd is such a 80s action movie hero in them.
Anonymous No.148968474 [Report]
>>148965890 (OP)
I want to go back to those kind of stories. All the recent “epics” sucked.
Anonymous No.148968618 [Report]
>>148966124
Such a good little story.
Anonymous No.148968635 [Report]
>>148966271
His style fits Strontium Dog better since it’s kinda psychedelic story wise too.
Anonymous No.148968651 [Report]
>>148967417
OP should update it. It’s a nice template.
Anonymous No.148969237 [Report] >>148969756 >>148971224
>>148965890 (OP)
I want more Deadworld stories.
Anonymous No.148969501 [Report]
>>148966580
I would start with some more current stuff. Starting at the beginning can be a slog for some of those 70s stories, unless you can get over the charm of old ass comics I wouldn’t start before 1990.
Anonymous No.148969756 [Report] >>148970041
>>148969237
That artist is dope.
Anonymous No.148970041 [Report]
>>148969756
He is the best horror artists 2000ad currently has. I really hope they do another Halloween issue with him doing at least one story this year.
Anonymous No.148970464 [Report] >>148970854
>>148965890 (OP)
Today’s issue was ok.
Anonymous No.148970854 [Report] >>148970966 >>148971151 >>148972037
>>148970464
And next issue we get a Ennis-written Judge Dredd and Strontium Dog story
Anonymous No.148970917 [Report] >>148971189
>>148967275
Name the top 5.
Anonymous No.148970966 [Report]
>>148970854
oof
Anonymous No.148971151 [Report] >>148971271
>>148970854
That could be good... it could be.
Anonymous No.148971189 [Report] >>148980074
>>148970917
Steve Dillon
Brian Bolland
Glenn Fabry
Ian Gibson
Ron Smith

and many more before him.
Anonymous No.148971224 [Report] >>148971557
>>148969237
Big fan of those. The world is a little too bleak at times though just for the sake of it it seems.
Anonymous No.148971258 [Report] >>148980125
Was it Ennis or Millar that had Dredd drive his bike through a dude?
Anonymous No.148971271 [Report]
>>148971151
The other recent crossover he did with Robo Hunter and Strontium Dog were good
even if the farage refrence was a bit forced
Anonymous No.148971557 [Report] >>148971639
>>148971224
I suppose it has good reason too. I mean, it's kind of like the Horus Heresy, we know how it ends.
Anonymous No.148971639 [Report]
>>148971557
Yeah, having literally a universe with no one alive is bleak.
Anonymous No.148971725 [Report] >>148971791 >>148971975 >>148972074 >>148972236 >>148977026
>>148965890 (OP)
why is there no hardback compendium or omnibus? I know there's case files but it's paper back and tiny. where is the 1000 page hardback collection?
Anonymous No.148971791 [Report]
>>148971725
why would you want a 1000 page anything? no binding can possibly hold that many pages

if you just want book spines on your shelf that you never actually have to read, print them yourself, it's not like anybody else cares
Anonymous No.148971975 [Report]
>>148971725
That would be like 3 feet tall.
Anonymous No.148972037 [Report]
>>148970854
Also a megazine if I’m not mistaken. Maybe more Old Man Dredd.
Anonymous No.148972074 [Report]
>>148971725
There must be a hardback of some issues at this point.
Anonymous No.148972236 [Report]
>>148971725
That’s only 2-3 case files worth of pages. Those are mostly a whole year of issues.
Anonymous No.148972379 [Report]
>>148968353
Probably Carlos’s best work.
Anonymous No.148972552 [Report]
>>148965890 (OP)
I like the stories featuring Anderson the most. Her empathy is refreshing.
Anonymous No.148973000 [Report] >>148973222 >>148973561 >>148973787
>>148965957
Anonymous No.148973222 [Report]
>>148973000
One of the best early issues.
Anonymous No.148973561 [Report]
>>148973000
Im never a fan of the yellow pads with the green, either all yellow or all green.
Anonymous No.148973787 [Report] >>148973859 >>148973888 >>148973983 >>149006764
>>148973000
Anonymous No.148973859 [Report] >>148973983
>>148973787
Jurassic Park ripped off Judge Dredd. They even guy like Hammond.
Anonymous No.148973888 [Report] >>148973983
>>148973787
Ron Smith was the best.
Anonymous No.148973983 [Report] >>148974505
>>148973787
>>148973859
>>148973888
Anonymous No.148974505 [Report]
>>148973983
Ay yi yi!
Anonymous No.148974853 [Report] >>148974980 >>148975751
Anonymous No.148974980 [Report] >>148975015 >>148975030
>>148974853
I always mean to start this sometime but never do.
Anonymous No.148975015 [Report] >>148975030
>>148974980
the story always seems compelling when I'm reading about it but it's weirdly hard to read for some reason, just really boring
Anonymous No.148975030 [Report] >>148980231
>>148975015
>>148974980
and I say this as someone who thinks the art is on point and additionally has some really great ass shots in most instalments
Anonymous No.148975751 [Report]
>>148974853
The art is great.
Anonymous No.148976786 [Report]
Thread's Dredd.
Anonymous No.148977026 [Report] >>148977247
I'm patiently awaiting a follow-up to A Better World, but it is annoying to know that it could take a year.
>>148971725
rebellion is small on the publisher scale of things.
Anonymous No.148977247 [Report] >>148977779
>>148977026
Imagine if they pulled a Hershey and Maitland wasn't actually dead, but in deep hiding to draw out the dissidents.
Anonymous No.148977779 [Report] >>148978517
>>148977247
she's deader than Castillo, anon
Anonymous No.148978517 [Report] >>148978611
>>148977779
I CAN DREAM, DAMMIT!
Anonymous No.148978611 [Report]
>>148978517
no you can't
Anonymous No.148979779 [Report] >>148979975
bump
Anonymous No.148979975 [Report]
>>148979779
I appreciate the attempt to keep the Dredd Thredd up, but we've just had one reach 500, give it a rest and come back soon. There's only so much Dredd to talk about.
Anonymous No.148980074 [Report]
>>148967046
>a lot of people hated his transition to digital colouring in the 90s but once he got a handle on it, it was fine
That describes a lot of the artists at 2000AD at the time (and comics generally). Its grating on series like Tales of Telguuth, where Siku especially went from fully painted stories to really crude gradients.

>>148971189
No Colin McNeil?
>Ron Smith
You're still my pal.
Anonymous No.148980125 [Report] >>148980154
>>148971258
If its what I'm thinking of, I'm pretty sure it was neither of them and it was Grant Morrison in "Inferno". Grant was the polar opposite of Garth Ennis on the strip, just total lack of care compared to weird anxious reverence.

Excuse the teeny picture, I couldn't find a better one right now.
Anonymous No.148980134 [Report] >>148980184 >>148980241
>>148965890 (OP)
So is the current runing 2000ad series Ghosted set in the Dredd universe?

I ask because the summary said its set in a mega city.
Anonymous No.148980154 [Report]
>>148980125
Here you go, Inferno Part 12, Prog 853
Anonymous No.148980184 [Report]
>>148980134
No, it's just a generic scifi city. Has no connection to Dredd.
Anonymous No.148980231 [Report] >>148980237
>>148975030
Have you read Insurrection? Lawless is kind of a sequel and introduces things like the Zhind. Its similar, but has a different feel to Lawless.
Anonymous No.148980237 [Report]
>>148980231
That is a fantastic cover.
Anonymous No.148980241 [Report] >>148980292
>>148980134
No, a megacity is just a generic term these days.
The strip directly says it takes place in Kinshasa, the current capital of the Congo.
Simba City would be the closest, but I'm not sure that was ever developed by any of the writers.
Now that I'm thinking about which Megacities have never been touched on?
Anonymous No.148980292 [Report] >>148980309 >>148980321 >>148980330 >>148980407 >>148986869 >>148986890
>>148980241
New Jersualem, New Thai Confederacy/Bangkok, Casabalanca, Luxor, Nu-Delhi, Pacific City (is that just New Zealand?), and Ankara I think? I don't remember any stories taking place or addressing those areas. There's been depications of Euro City judges with the fancy star helmets but I don't recall any stories directly taking place in Euro City itself. I also recall there being a Simba City story, which the wiki seems to confirm. Pretty sure almost everywhere else on the map has had a story set there or has had some fleshing out done.
Anonymous No.148980309 [Report] >>148987685
>>148980292
Oh wait I'm an idiot, Luxor is just Egypt, which has definitely had a story.
Anonymous No.148980321 [Report] >>148980526
>>148980292
Vatican judges are so cool looking.
Anonymous No.148980330 [Report] >>148980424 >>148980434
>>148980292
We had at least seen some judges from Nu-delhi show up, but I'm not sure if any story has taken place there
I'm also not sure if Sino Cit Two has had a story
Anonymous No.148980407 [Report]
>>148980292
Solomon City, Friendly City, Mongolian Exclusion Zone, and the Scandinavian Confederation have also had nothing done with them in the comic, as the "INCOMPLETE MAP DATA" suggests.
Anonymous No.148980424 [Report] >>148980433
>>148980330
Must be fun to get to design a new judge for a new place. I like how they kept the same kind of idea but then added the flavour of the country to it and turned it up to 11.
Anonymous No.148980433 [Report] >>148980511 >>148980592
>>148980424
Unless you decide to have a half naked guy and call him Judge Tarzan.
Anonymous No.148980434 [Report] >>148980437
>>148980330
There's been a few Sino City stories. They have both regular Judges and "Inspectors".
Anonymous No.148980437 [Report] >>148980441 >>148980478 >>148980924
>>148980434
I'm a big fan of the dragon shoulderpads and helmet.
Anonymous No.148980441 [Report] >>148980450
>>148980437
So how bad is China in the world of Dredd?
Anonymous No.148980450 [Report]
>>148980441
Just as corrupt as regular China, Johnny Woo worked as both Judge and triad member.
Anonymous No.148980478 [Report]
>>148980437
going to foreign mega cities seemed to be something Mark Millar and Grant Morrison liked to do during their Dredd stories
Anonymous No.148980511 [Report] >>148980592
>>148980433
I would love a Judge Tarzan, he would lose his mind in Mega-City One or maybe feel right at home with the intelligent apes.
Anonymous No.148980526 [Report]
>>148980321
>what if the judges there dressed like Batman?
Anonymous No.148980592 [Report] >>148980685 >>148980806
>>148980511
>>148980433
There kind of is one already, Field Judge Shaka from "Judge Dredd: Fetish". Born in the jungle raised in a cave, drives a zebra-pattern hoverbike, theoretically attached to the West African Meg Simba City but patrols the congo basin equivalent to the Cursed Earth. Long hair, no shirt, appears to be slightly lighter skinned than his peers in Simba City, talks more like a caveman - he only appeared the once, but he ticks almost all the boxes for a Judge Tarzan.
Anonymous No.148980685 [Report]
>>148980592
That's honestly who I was trying to mention just forgot his name.
Anonymous No.148980806 [Report] >>148980973 >>148980982
>>148980592
I will have to look into this. Seems fun.
Anonymous No.148980924 [Report]
>>148980437
That’s a pretty cool look.
Anonymous No.148980973 [Report] >>148981063
>>148980806
Eh it's okay to me, Detling appears and that's always good and the art from Siku is a plus.

Actually I don't want to cause the usual shit this comment starts but how many non white artists have worked on 2000ad? I know siku is one but any others?
Anonymous No.148980982 [Report] >>148980989
>>148980806
Its... not the greatest. It suffered quite badly from delays and rewrites, and there was quite a backlash about the style of the illustrator, Siku. The Dredd face where his gigantic chin makes him look like a muppet? That's from Fetish. The colours are gorgeous, but unfortunately it it was scanned really poorly so like a lot of the painted art of the period it came across as quite muddy. Its still worth a read, I think, especially if you want to see a part of Dredd's world that's seen very little action otherwiseand the secret guest appearence from a certain big gay vampire hunter
Anonymous No.148980985 [Report]
>>148966580
Whatever Megazine is currently on the shelf of your local comic book store. Apocalypse War isn’t a bad spot to start either, it’s in case files 5.
Anonymous No.148980989 [Report] >>148981063
>>148980982
That art is gorgeous. Looks like it’s worth looking into for just that.
Anonymous No.148981028 [Report] >>148981042 >>148981096 >>148981109 >>148981648
>>148965890 (OP)
Are any of the AVP crossovers any good? Are they fun reads at least?
Anonymous No.148981042 [Report] >>148981109
>>148981028
Never read then but they're still in continuity.
Anonymous No.148981063 [Report] >>148981456
>>148980973
Well obviously Spaniards were instrumental to 2000AD from the beginning, so as a proportion...

Seriously though, its not a huge amount because there's not a huge number of people in the UK comics scene in the first place, especially up to the 90s and 00s. I'd honestly have to have a think.

>>148980989
If you like Siku, have a look at Tales of Telguuth as well. Its a very dark/weird fantasy series he did quite a few stories for. Fun fact: he was also one of the primary concept artists for the game Evil Genius!
Anonymous No.148981096 [Report] >>148982472 >>148983527
>>148981028
Incubus was pretty fun.
Anonymous No.148981109 [Report] >>148982008 >>148983527 >>148983765 >>148990046
>>148981028
The Alien one is an all-timer for mainstream Dredd, its one of my favourites. Neither side comes off badly, which is always a problem in crossovers and Dredd is possibly the only character I can imagine would realistically backhand a chestburster. The Predator ones are... OK. Much more run of the mill. Oddly enough, the IDW DreddXPredXAlien are surprisingly OK, but they're not as great as their Mars Attacks crossover.

>>148981042
Everything in mainline 2000AD and Megazine is mostly still in continuity, which I think is pretty great. The Batman and Lobo crossovers might be more in continuity than they are to the DC comics at this point!
Anonymous No.148981456 [Report]
>>148981063
I really should get around to reading Talguuth, but I kinda want to read more Clark Ashton Smith books to see what inspired Steve Moore
Anonymous No.148981648 [Report]
>>148981028
If Wagner wrote it, it’s at least going to be fun.
Anonymous No.148981891 [Report] >>148981924 >>148990046
>>148965890 (OP)
Now this is Dredd.
Anonymous No.148981924 [Report]
>>148981891
Should have listened.
Anonymous No.148982008 [Report]
>>148981109
I appreciate that everything is cannon in Dredd.
Anonymous No.148982472 [Report]
>>148981096
The Verminators are a cool bunch. Such horrors underneath the city.
Anonymous No.148982721 [Report] >>148983079 >>148984637 >>148990016 >>148994075
>>148966580
The newspaper strip is a good place to get a condensed sense of what Dredd is, along with some of the more overarching early stories like Apocalypse War
Anonymous No.148983068 [Report]
>>148966124
When is the clone going to go evil?
Anonymous No.148983079 [Report] >>148985184
>>148982721
Quick little dredds are a treat.
Anonymous No.148983527 [Report]
>>148981096
>>148981109
I’ll have to read this one soon.
Anonymous No.148983765 [Report] >>148985599
>>148981109
Of course he isn’t shook by that.
Anonymous No.148984637 [Report]
>>148982721
kek
Anonymous No.148984655 [Report] >>148988978 >>148991756
>>148965890 (OP)
I still read it every week. Newer stuff is generally better than the old stuff was.
Anonymous No.148985184 [Report] >>148986024
>>148983079
There's two hardback volumes that collect all of them called "the Daily Dredds", if you're interested.
Anonymous No.148985599 [Report]
>>148983765
Well obviously. Possibly not the worst thing he's seen that week, never mind over the course of his career.
Anonymous No.148986024 [Report] >>148986073
>>148985184
I’ll have to ask the comic book guy next time I’m in to order them for me.
Anonymous No.148986073 [Report]
>>148986024
This is it from the main 2000AD shop, but you can find them in lots of places. Amazon UK and US definitely have them as well in Kindle versions
https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/XB514
https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/XB582

I've got them both, they're formatted around the longer style of the strips rather than a standard comic book but they're big chunky drokkers.
Anonymous No.148986282 [Report]
>>148965957
Anonymous No.148986698 [Report]
Is he beating the video game shill allegations?
Anonymous No.148986869 [Report]
>>148980292
There was a story that took place in Iceland of all places and the judges there look like regular cops
Anonymous No.148986883 [Report] >>148987147 >>148987234 >>148987821
Whatever happened to Judge Anon?
Anonymous No.148986890 [Report]
>>148980292
I would watch a cartoon in this style. Would help sell the absurdity.
Anonymous No.148987147 [Report] >>148987234 >>148987821
>>148986883
probably just never came back after 4chan went down
Anonymous No.148987234 [Report] >>148987821
>>148987147
he hasn't been around since last June

>>148986883
I hope he's somewhere good
Anonymous No.148987685 [Report]
>>148980309
Great art.
Anonymous No.148987821 [Report]
>>148986883
>>148987147
>>148987234
He's still around on Tumblr with the same name, still a big Lady Shiva fan. I think he got a thanks in the foreword to a Dredd-related book a while back, which was nice to hear about.
Anonymous No.148988978 [Report] >>148989200 >>148991774
>>148984655
Really?
Anonymous No.148989200 [Report] >>148989845 >>148991642
>>148988978
s'alright
Anonymous No.148989845 [Report] >>148989912
>>148989200
Not a big fan of the artists or writers they get for the other series these days. Dredd and maybe Rogue Trooper (if I'm in the mood) are the only strips I still read in 2000AD.
Anonymous No.148989912 [Report] >>148990139
>>148989845
I felt that way about Nikolai Dante for like the first five years, I'd skip all the fully painted stuff
Anonymous No.148990016 [Report] >>148992099
>>148982721
If they ever do another movie they should try to bring in some of the humor and more satirical elements.
Anonymous No.148990046 [Report] >>148991962 >>148992068 >>148994280
>>148981109
>>148981891
So how big of a deal are aliens in the Dredd setting? They have off-world colonies and people regularly heading off into space, but do they ever have to deal with invasions on the home front? Are the colonies actually good places to live?
Anonymous No.148990139 [Report] >>148990237 >>148990588
>>148989912
>I felt that way about Nikolai Dante for like the first five years, I'd skip all the fully painted stuff
I hope you eventually realized your mistake and went back to read it all, Nikolai is probably one of the best 2000AD series of all time. I'd probably put it in second place, behind Dredd.
Anonymous No.148990161 [Report]
Just remembered another auxiliary Judge, the Cursed Earth Rangers.
Anonymous No.148990237 [Report]
>>148990139
I did!
Anonymous No.148990588 [Report]
>>148990139
Seems cool.
Anonymous No.148991452 [Report]
>>148965890 (OP)
Dredd Locks
Anonymous No.148991642 [Report] >>148992246 >>148992376
>>148989200
Ghosted is probably the weakest strip in the prog right now, and it's really just due to the art
Anonymous No.148991756 [Report] >>148992376
>>148984655
Did Thistlebone improve? I read the first trade, but while I quite liked what was there it just didn't seem to have enough meat on the bones. So to speak.
Anonymous No.148991774 [Report]
>>148988978
The strip didn’t really become what it was until the the 2010s anyways.
Anonymous No.148991962 [Report] >>148992015
>>148990046
It fluctuates. Obviously the strip focusses on humans and mutants, but aliens have been a part of the strip since very early on, subject to the usual level of Big Meg immigration issues / horrifying exploitation if they're nice and murder rampages if they're not. One of the big early epics, the Judge Child Saga, is almost entirely about Dredd, Hershey and a couple of other Judges adventuring around the galaxy and subjected to strange things like being shrunk and stolen by a spider headed travelling salesman or killed and resurected by a necromancer who uses a giant toad as a drug producer / execution method. Dredd gets on surprisingly well with the aliens he meets who aren't trying to murder or mate with him (a minority, admittedly) - he became very close to an alien he rescued from slavery during the Cursed Earth saga, and is considered an honorary Stookie for saving a big colony of them from being kidnapped and ground up for drugs. Aliens that have been been brought to Mega City One under false pretences or have been trafficed are usually allowed to leave fairly peacably and the people responsible dealt with harshly, just like they would if they had been people smuggling. In terms of hostile aliens there's been several classic invasions by various kinds, lots of things that have been either accidentally brought in by holidaying tourists or smuggled in by idiot perps (see the Xenomorph above from Incubus). The Kleggs, gigantic crocodillians with a taste for human flesh, rhyming, and an interstellar empire, were introduced as henchmen for the insane Judge Cal and have returned quite a bit since then, with "Sensitive Klegg" becoming something of a celebrity. There's also a fair number of one-off dickheads who are just spoiling for a fight, like the Predator or the Howler (pic related)
Anonymous No.148992015 [Report] >>148992194
>>148991962
The offworld colonies didn't get a lot of attention until Insurrection / Lawless, beyond them existing and being a point of friction for the Klegg empire and other Mega City colonisation efforts - I think it was the Sino Cits that were Mega City One's big rivals in outer space, but its been so long since I read about it I can't remember.

Assuming you aren't mulched by aliens, are a baseline human, are willing to keep your head down, obey all the rules and behave as if you're in a slightly more relaxed version of Mega City One, then the colonies do seem to be a better life than what the average cit expects. Robots and uplifted animals are more common, especially on the frontier where there's lots of construction and dangerous jobs to do, but are essentially second class citizens in colonies where Justice Department has more control. The series Insurrection is what happens when a colony decides that the way the Big Meg does things is unjust and actively try to resist, while Lawless is more like a western with a frontier town slowly getting more civilised*.
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>>148990046
They are as big or as dangerous as the story necessitated. Sometimes they’re nothing burgers other times a threat of extinction if it was left unchecked.
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>>148990016
Nta, but I think that’s why a cartoon might almost be better.
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>>148992099
It would allow reality to be more malleable and make those comedic events more visually congrous. Bellywheel tipping is easier to show in a cartoon than in live-action. Also lets you get the unique style of the comics across.

>>148992015
This artist. They drew Warhammer 40K illustrations. I can feel it.
Anonymous No.148992243 [Report] >>148993260
That one prose story Neil Gaiman wrote.
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>>148991642
I hope the next week or two is a jumping on point.
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>>148992194
Exactly. The world is too absurd to try to do realistically without losing the charm of Mega-City One. Simps, uglies, fatties, etc cannot be used in real world without looking foolish.
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>>148992194
Colin MacNeil and yes, he illustrated several comics for Warhammer Monthly in the late 90s / early 00s like Bloodquest. The way he does ceramite Power Armour with that sort of textured stone rather than metal is how I still imagine it.

Warhammer Monthly was basically what 2000AD authors and artists did as a side gig - Pat Mills on the Redeemer, Dan Abnett with Titan and lots of others, Gordon Rennie with Bloodquest and Deff Skwadron's words...
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>>148991642
I quite like the art, it's fluid and expressive; the strip is very 2000AD but just lacks a strong hook, it's the back and forth between settings while trying to world-build that's hurting it


>>148991756
it's OK, no Stone Island but then, what is
Anonymous No.148992427 [Report] >>148992521
>>148992246
next week will have a bunch of new strips since a three of them ended in this weeks prog
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>>148992300
It’s a shame it was very hard to get a hold of in canada back in the day.
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>>148992427
Looking forward to it then. I haven’t been interested in the other stories at all lately. Rogue Trooper isn’t too bad though.
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>>148965957
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>>148992573
Bob’s Law?
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>>148992243
Kneel Gayman
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>>148992573
I just read those issues.
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>>148965890 (OP)
Apocalypse War and the Block War lead-in were awesome. I think the first two Chopper stories are my favorites so far.

I just finished reading America for the first time and it was ok. The Judges were the most evil they've ever been, but the ending was shit. The narrator narcs on a bombing run on a casualty-less target and then body swaps with his dead crush? Seems like the democrat terrorists should have been even more blood thirsty after killing the Judges instead of setting for mere vandalism.
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>>148982721
Anonymous No.148994280 [Report] >>148994399 >>148995993
>>148990046
The kleggs were a big deal for a minute but aren’t really scary anymore. No other alien race is really featured at all these days.
Anonymous No.148994399 [Report] >>148994861 >>149005105
>>148993915
The way I interpret it is that its as much of an allegory as the rest of the comic. America is dead, murdered by thugs who will surely get away with it. The corpse is hollowed out by a coward who claims to love America dearly but never truly understood or believed in its principles, and once they own the remains fetishistically wraps themselves in its outer trappings to help their career in show business. Its a huge slam on Beeny and the kinds of people he represents.. The democrats really believed in the symbolism and cared for the people, which is why they went for the kind of bombing they did, but they were up against people who explicitly do not care about those things and have implemented even stronger totalitarian symbols of their might.

Its very weird and bleak, and the bit that got you also got me, but after a while I came to think think it works in context. I really need to find a copy of the recently rediscovered America scriptbook, it has commentary from Wagner throughout it.

For what its worth, the later comics also show that the surviving democrats eventually morph into a much more aggressive terrorist group called Total War, which probably woudln't have happened if things hadn't played out the way they did.

>>148994280
The Zhind seem to be the thing now. If I remember right their parallel universe cousins even make a cameo in Fall of Deadworld.
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>>148994399
>>148993915
I always liked the sequel to America better than the story itself. For that matter, the democracy march that Dredd was ordered to ratfuck, where people just didn't care - sure some of them were scared off, and eventually it became a wally squad false-flag riot, but the average cit just doesn't give a shit. From their point of view the Judges have been in charge for more than a century. To be honest I'm enjoying Dreadnoughts on the basis that it's a prequel to Judge Dredd (oh shit, I just got the pun in the name, clever) rather than an alt-timeline, but that's what 10 years in the future now? So for the average citizen even in the early 2100s the Judges are probably all they've ever known.
Anonymous No.148995077 [Report]
>>148966580
Case files 3
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>>148994861
I don't know why they didn't call the series Dreddnoughts
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>>148966580
Nowadays I would say start at Day of Chaos as that was the last major major event to happen and why everything is currently kinda fucked up still. Personally I started around 1900.
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>>148994280
Sensitive Klegg is my fav.
Anonymous No.148996789 [Report] >>148997425 >>148999631 >>149005095
a concept for Robocop
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>>148996789
I expect the next Robocop movie/game to have a Mechanismo reference.
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>>148997425
Honestly surprised by how much I liked the Mechanismo arcs, given that you pretty much know the outcome every time. They always managed to make them fun and I liked the escalating violence.
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>>148965957
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>>148998096
>20p
That's inflation for you, at least Rebellion let their digital book sell for. much cheaper it is one of the things they do much better than American companies
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>>148996789
Crazy.
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Drokk!
Anonymous No.149002226 [Report] >>149004963
>>148997425
Do people outside of Dredd even know of the Mechanismos?
Anonymous No.149003086 [Report] >>149009560
Weminder that Walter the Wobot is a wetard.
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>>148965890 (OP)
What makes him the Law?
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>>148965957
Epic
Anonymous No.149004963 [Report]
>>149002226
Robot cops aren’t a new concept.
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>>149004194
His chin.
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>>148996789
If you watch that movie after reading the Judge Dredd comic books you can really see that they more or less made a dredd movie and didn’t want to pay for it so they made him a cold robot instead of a cold human.
Anonymous No.149005105 [Report] >>149005565 >>149005779
>>148994399
So dumb question about Beeny but is he sane, I get the feeling the story wants you to see him as sympathetic but also generally unwell.
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>>148965890 (OP)
Got Case Files #8 and off to the beach. Happy weekend all.
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>>149005105
I think its a little open to interpretation because he's at least a tiny bit self-aware with all the "I'm going to tell you a story and you're going to hate me for it", but at the end of the day he still body-snatched a girl who he was madly in love with who only saw him as a friend at best (I think the term that people here sometimes use is "oneitis"?). It becomes clearer in the sequels but its not just us, the audience, who thinks he's deeply, deeply weird the other characters do too. Given what Mega City One thinks is normal that's pretty damning.

I suppose it comes down to how much of a selfish, self-pitying jerk you think he is, and how much you think he’s a deeply unwell man who makes a series of terrible, irreversible decisions out of fear and grief. If you favour the latter perspective, he's as much of a victim of the dystopia as any of the other Cits in the comic. In contrast to the other characters, he wins the lottery of outcomes and becomes rich and successful. He gets a perfectly legal job that he's not only good at but in a small way at least helps others cope with their lives, something that most cits can only dream of - remember the class on how to cope with unemployment? He avoids war and all its scars and his major misfortunes are mostly undone by the end (of the first book, at least). On the other hand, he is deeply unhappy and lives in overwhelming fear of authority his entire life, personified by the faceless Judges. They're worse bullies than the teenagers that break his first guitar, and every time they appear something terrible happens. Beeny says at the mid-point that he's a case study in how you can follow all their rules and still live a good life, but he's not only a unique case it doesn't even help him much in the end. America is the only person in his life who resists them from the start but Beeny always breaks. The system crushes him.
Anonymous No.149005635 [Report] >>149005729 >>149007307
>>149005565
On the other hand, Beeny is monstrously obsessed with America, it’s the throughline of his character throughout the book. It’s up to you to decide how much of that comes from mental illness and how much of it is a deeply unpleasant possessiveness. He refuses to tell America his true feelings until it is too late, then flees from her at the earliest possible opportunity (leaving behind what comes across to me at least as a pretty selfish note saying goodbye) but still obsessing over her to an unhealthy degree. He refuses to form normal attachments to anyone, with the closest thing he has to companionship coming from a servant android and prostitutes who can’t reject him. He justifies himself that this comes down to the purity of his love for America, but should we believe him? America even tells him shortly before things come to a head that “he’s a really nice guy… but you’re such a jerk”. She doesn’t realise how right she is until it’s much too late.
Anonymous No.149005729 [Report] >>149007307
>>149005635
To me, Beeny’s guiding principles always come down to “will this get me the kind of relationship I want with America” and “will this keep me safe”. All of his narration is just justification for these two points. Yes, he lives in terror and you could argue that he's motivated at least in part by impulsive panic, but ultimately everything he does is of some benefit to himself. Leaving home means he can become successful, but also means he doesn't have to face America's romantic relationships or intervene against her dangerous new friends. Lying to the Judges about how he gets shot keeps America safe, but it also means he’s not arrested for soliciting. Betraying the democrats ostensibly ensures she’s safe from the Judge’s retribution (not that it works), but it also means he’s safe as a collaborator. Claiming her body in a horribly literal sense when there's nobody left alive to care for her gives him some of the control he’s always desired. Its certainly not the act of a friend or “the kindest thing” he could do in that situation. Its also definitely not something he does it a moment of impulsive panic, it’s a decision he comes to after "months". It comes across as an act of deeply weird, fetishistic possessiveness, but it also means that he doesn’t lose his successful career as singer. How nice for him.

Beeny justifies his actions by saying he doesn't really know why he did it, and claims its a way it keeps her memory alive while punishing himself, but the story undercuts this - not only by his own actions (after all its HIS memory of her story), but by contrasting his justification with the final page that directly follows it. The Judges get the final word – America is DEAD. THIS is the real world.
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>>149005105
I think he’s just a little unstable.
Anonymous No.149005957 [Report]
>>149004194
He said it.
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>>149004194
Lawgiver.
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>>149004194
Lawmasters.
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>>148973787
We need more dinosaurs in Judge Dredd.
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>>149005565
>>149005635
>>149005729
Damn, that might be the brilliant thing I've ever read about Beeny as a character and America in general.
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>>149006156
They didn't make them talk in the movie just the gun and that is sad.
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>>148965957
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>>149003086
Wong.