Thread 148977116

Any other examples of weird fringe religions or conspiracy theories getting their own comic?

>>148977116 (OP)
The Family International/Children of God have a whole series of comics explaining their beliefs and practices.

>>148977161
oh fucking shit i forgot about this, i was looking for it years ago. fuck. didnt some random broadcast show a puppet show they made or am i getting crosswires?

There are cults with mangas and animes. (Aum Shinrikyo. Happy Science. I think the Aum Shinrikyo one is basically just a pamphlet.) You probably already know those.
I'm pretty sure The Church of Sub-genius had comics/tracts. I don't think a parody religion really counts, though.

>>148977213
Oh, yeah. Also: it isn't based on any singular conspiracy theory, but there's a comic adaption of the Illuminatus Trilogy. The book was based on insane schizophrenic letters the authors would receive while working at Playboy.
The book is pretty trashy IMO, but is still pretty interesting if you want a glimpse of that kind of wacky stuff.
I haven't read the comic adaption.

>>148977116 (OP)
Well even though the comic in OP wasn't actually made by the Nation of Islam. The NOI's newspaper, Muhammad Speaks, had a cartoonist on staff, Eugene X, who drew political cartoons as well as "chick tract" style comics explaining what the group believed in.

>>148977419
21st centaury boys

>>148977432
>muhammed teachings of self-help
Literally black jordan peterson

Nobody actually believes the Yakub stuff. They just do it for ulterior reasons. Like people join cults for the community and free cruise vacations.

>>148978152
Don’t be disparaging my father now

The guy who wrote The Turner Diaries and Hunter also did a comic.

>>148977432
I just realized that the nation of Islam is basically just black mormonism.

>>148977419
>The book is pretty trashy IMO, but is still pretty interesting if you want a glimpse of that kind of wacky stuff.
The Illuminatus stuff was training wheels for the Schroedinger's Cat trilogy.

>>148979654
I'll take your word for it. The only other thing RAW thing I read was a bit of Prometheus Rising.
I don't really know much about him at all, but I feel like he probably influenced stuff that isn't mentioned very often.
I've seen people mention conspiracies that I'm pretty sure were made up entirely by the book. IIRC his stuff was also pretty popular with some early internet nerd groups, too. I'm not really sure.

>>148979742
I recall I read Illuminatus in its entirety and the Schrödinger books basically removed all the chaff and improved on whatever was good about that sprawling mess. They're not a replacement though, because the mess they are is part of the experience, just like being nonsensically stretched out is part of the Count of Monte Christo experience.

>IIRC his stuff was also pretty popular with some early internet nerd groups, too. I'm not really sure.
We went from Discordian message boards surviving into the 2000s to Discord, I guess.

>>148977432
I still can't decide if the comic was tongue-in-cheek or not. Even the term "Tricknology" itself sounds like something out of Aqua Teen, not to mention the whole story feeling like the ramblings of the Cybernetic Ghost.

>>148977179
Yep, Life With Grandpa. They also made a series of comics by the same name to teach kids in the cult important things, like to carefully burn all the documents and records so as not to compromise the security of their human trafficking rings.

>>148980485
Tricknology is an actual NOL term for what yakub uses as tech. I have no idea either

>>148980485
>>148980768
I see it a lot like the Taiping Rebellion or the Antiwork subreddit.
The original catalyst, the original founding, is undeniably the work of someone who's absolutely insane. They're so extremely radical that their beliefs are nearly nonsensical and you could make the argument that it's all just a cult. But the movement itself has (or at least, had, back in the age of segregation and black history) a grain of genuine truth to it that starts to attract more reasonable people who have more reasonable grievances. People aren't joining for the insane Yakub shit, they're joining for the community support and messaging around black power.
And as we see, what typically happens in these situations is that the insane leadership and their original vision eventually clashes with and embarrasses the normal members of the organization until they leave, collapsing the whole scheme.

>>148980485
From what i remember, this artist has made comics of other nutjob shit so i think portraying the subject matter as seriously as the NoI wants it to be portrayed is the tongue in cheek nature of it.

>>148980833
NOI originally schism'd off a black supremacist neotheosophist movement (that still exists as its own thing, though they're sovereign citizen types now). It's crazies all the way down.

>>148977116 (OP)
I'd pay good money for a Revolt in the Stars comic adaptation.

>>148977116 (OP)
Lots of Anarchist and some Lolbertarian comics around.

>>148977432
>The NOI's newspaper, Muhammad Speaks
>had a cartoonist on staff
Ok, I am not the only one seeing the problem here, right?

>>148981160
I dont think they believe the same thing the charlie hebdo attackers did. Also NOI isnt reallt islam at all

>>148977116 (OP)
Is there somewhere you can read the yakub comic online? I remember reading it when it got storytimed here on /co/, but I wanna have access to it later. I remember it being absolutely batshit and hilarious.

>>148977116 (OP)
>That's it, I'm creating white people!
I will never not laugh at this line.

>>148980485
>Yakub has a tragic backstory
Fuck. I didn't know that. Makes me like him even more, gonna oppress a nigger in his homage today.

>>148980485
The Yakub comic is tounge-in-cheek and not serious, but the niggas who came up with the material were serious as >>148980833 points out. The artist of the comic has gone out of his way to make multiple comics about absurd shit, like one with an incel who eventually gets sent to jail for killing people (still a virgin) and one with a gigachad's daily schecule, stuff like that.

>>148981292
Here's the author's twitter, which also IIRC has some of his other comics, along with his site
https://x.com/smackfrank/status/1727316024163496355?lang=en
https://linktr.ee/smackfrank

>>148977116 (OP)
I see your comic and raise you a video

>>148977116 (OP)
LONG AGO IN A DISTANT LAND
I, YAKUB, BIG HEAD MASTER OF BLACKNESS
UNLEASHED AN UNSPEAKABLE EVIL

>>148982615
There should be a History of the World cartoon for children, with the prehistory being told through Yakub and history being told through Arthur de Gobineau.

Literal rise and fall of the white race.

>>148982925
>Arthur de Gobineau.

>>148982950
French philosopher of race. He claimed that the original white race was too autistic to create culture, so it had to conquer and interbreed with negros to generate a mulatto culture that could actually get shit done. This always inevitably led to the white race's degeneration and the eventual collapse of the mulatto culture it had originally engendered.
This was fine for a while, because a lot of white people existed in the far North, but eventually, the population of powerful nordic autists was depleted, leading to the inevitable downfall of humanity he imagined he saw in his own times.

>>148977419
Sounfs interesting, how how exactly does a playboy writer ends up recieving regurlarly a bunvh of schizo letters?

>>148983239
>how exactly does a playboy writer ends up recieving regurlarly a bunvh of schizo letters?
Playboy was the Alex Jones of Fresh&Fit of its days. Back in the days, it featured scientology test reviews, outsider literature and interviews with fringe personalities.
Also what would weirdos do, back before right-wing late night public radio hosts?

>>148980485
>I still can't decide if the comic was tongue-in-cheek or not
Are you retarded?

>>148977116 (OP)
Still can't tell if Yakub is a massive black shitpost or not
Either way it always sends my sides into the stratosphere

>>148982600
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46PXaJxzuDE

The idea of Yakub birthing white people to fuck shit up and create mayhem like Demon King Piccolo is so fucking funny and kind of badass. They should get the Sinners guy to make a movie out of it.

>>148983891
It's pretty sincere
Most black americans know it and a lot believe it

>>148984021
Yakub is what happens when your people are stuck in the mud and another group of people are pillaging your village for sport

>>148981160
>>148981174
Yeah NOI "Islam" is very much in name only, their main thing is just Black Nationalism. Real Muslims call them kuffars

>>148981160
Figurative art has been a thing in the Islamic world since at least the Umayyad Caliphate. In practice, aniconism as a religious observance was mostly restricted to lithurgical and devotional contexts. Secular art, however, was allowed a good deal more laxity.

A lot of Islamic artist seem to have only gotten squeamish when it came to depictions of Muhammad's face, so they frequently chose to draw him as a veiled figure, although said taboo was not consistently or universally enforced. You can easily find online several Islamic manuscript illustrations (made during the 14th and 15th centuries) that show Muhammad's face.

>>148985900
Why do muslims hate drawing muhammed again? Seems so stupid to me

>>148985900
>>148985913
>>148981160
Semites. Only the ethnically semitic Muslims ever cared about the ban on figurative art.

Literal Jew problems.

>>148983370
If not for the fringe anti-Catholic conspiracies and KJV-Onlyism, these would be considered normal Christian literature.

>>148979478
It's really more Black Nazism, the Mormons are largely the result of trying to hard-close certain theological problems without resorting to "le higher mysteries", IE the problems of the morality of eternal damnation but also if logically God being Good wouldn't do that and is all forgiving why does faith matter [solved by saying that basically you all but have to ask for eternal damnation outright after dying, and a "degrees of heaven" sort of thing based on how faithful and moral you were by mormon standards for basically everyone] and various others like why an all powerful god "wouldn't" just visit the whole planet to give them all a fair shake, or why it was okay in the ancient past for guys to have a ton of wives when they lived in the ages of the prophets and logically if God disliked it he would have said so and Jesus wouldn't have later praised Solomon and the rest of them all as wise teachers and so on.

TLDR: Mormonism is basically fanfiction by a weird horny guy who means well trying to fix perceived plotholes, the NOI is a bunch of OC fiction wearing the original as a shallow skin suit written by someone who was basically a less successful black hitler.

>>148986319
>joseph mormon
>well meaning
Nigga was a child rapist dont kid yourself

>>148985913
Long story short, cuz of the Quranic ban on idolatry. Interpreted liberally, it allows for the visual representation of pretty much anything except God himself. Venture far enough into fanatical territory, and even scribbling on a notebook becomes a slippery slope towards paganism.

>>148986474
Why does the quran hate idolatry? That seems fucking stupid. Im not even religious but i grew up around jesus statues all the time

Count Dankula did a video on the Finno-Korean Hypowar and Yakub and I know a lot of the stuff he makes up in the video is bullshit but I wanna point out something that stood out the most in that video

What the fuck do you mean that in the "middle eastern" version of Yakub's origin story that Allah made a perfect society and the species he created still complained how despite being given "near god like abilities" they were upset how Allah was Allah and therefore better then all of them

How can something be the creator of everything only to then create a race of beings that hate the fact that you created them

That doesnt make any sense. Thats so fucking stupid. You're given paradise and youre STILL not happy the fuck you mean?

>>148986555
Abrahamic religions have this weird fixation on obedience. Almost as if they were made for population thought control...

>>148984021

I think its wild how Yakub has multiple origin stories apparently and all of them are equally retarded. The other story about how they had a perfect society on the moon but some black dude had a Kaczynski moment claiming how were losing touch with our inner spirituality so the moon gets blown up and they decide to "return to monke" mode on the earth

The fuck you mean? You'd have to be insane that they'd throw a perfect society away all because one black dude decided "unimaginable decadence doesnt interest me anymore."

>>148986505
Many Christian Sects have had several Iconoclasms when it enters fundamentalist phases, most Islam is still pretty closely connected to its fundamentalist interpretations but there's been a lot of phases where they're cooler about it.

>>148986572

Dude if Allah was half as chill as he was in that story and not the insane goat fucker he actually is I would unironically say thanks and fuck off to do my own thing. Some dude crashed out and ruined utopia for everyone involved no fucking wonder Yakub turned on everyone. Imagine a god that is also a fucking house negro. That is Yakub.

>Master White Man the Black Race is acting Uppity again.

>>148986505
I mean jews and protestants don't like it either its really just catholics that are ok with it, its just muslims take it to the next level by literally not allowing muhammad to be visually depicted period.

>>148986505
Islam is a jewish sect founded by Semites.