Thread 149005200 - /co/ [Archived: 1000 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:20:05 PM No.149005200
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Is Danny Rand problematic character ?
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:24:15 PM No.149005210
No.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:25:32 PM No.149005215
>>149005200 (OP)
yeah
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:30:16 PM No.149005240
everyone is problematic
vigilantism doesn't help anyone
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:33:29 PM No.149005258
>>149005240
does iron fist kill people ?
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:35:23 PM No.149005270
>>149005200 (OP)
No
>But he's a white sav-
He's not, he's just a stock character from that era. Him and Luck are just 70s stock character. You want to "fix" Heroes for Hire? Add a 3rd member whose asian and based on Bruce Lee.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:45:02 PM No.149005310
>>149005270
>Add a 3rd member whose asian and based on Bruce Lee.
So Shang Chi
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:47:21 PM No.149005323
>>149005200 (OP)
I think the problem a lot of the people who push him being problematic have is that they either think or imply that being problematic also means having no merit. I do think there are aspects of Danny Rand which you could describe as problematic - you could say this about pretty much anything introduced during the 70s martial arts boom, go read an issue of Deadly Hands of Kung Fu cover to cover - but I don't think this means he's meritless. It's a discussion with a lot of nuance around what exactly makes characters problematic, what weight do we give to these aspects being misguided but basically well-intentioned, whether the positive impact in terms of opening the door wider for more direct portrayals of Asian culture and representation needs to be taken into account, etc. You can't put all that in the title of a Youtube video made for nothing but clicks, though, so yeah.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:47:39 PM No.149005324
>>149005200 (OP)
isnt him being outsider trained by chinks part of his character ?
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:01:21 PM No.149005366
>>149005200 (OP)
A Batman DTV movie from years ago race swapped Richard Dragon to just be Bruce Lee but no one cared and he balanced out the martial artist team with Bruce, Shiva and Bronze Tiger
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:01:53 PM No.149005368
>>149005323
The fundamental issue is that if Danny Rand is unacceptably problematic then so is requiring martial arts characters to be Asian.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:07:45 PM No.149005405
>>149005368
That's definitely an issue you immediately run into, yeah. The other thing that gets me is that ultimately, Iron Fist was a white guy because Marvel thought that'd sell better at the time, and now Iron Fist is Chinese because Marvel thinks that'll sell better today. Where does the root cause of pure profit motive figure in when discussing individual merits?
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:11:25 PM No.149005420
>>149005200 (OP)
>chinese powers
>black best friend that's practically a brother
>black girlfriend
Danny is multiracial while still being white.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:18:36 PM No.149005455
>>149005366
Really shitty movie. No-one can convince me they didn't just add Batman last-minute to try and sell it, he wears the costume for all of 5 minutes.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:19:36 PM No.149005459
>>149005405
Extra funny because giving magical not-Tibetan powers to China.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:20:35 PM No.149005464
>>149005200 (OP)
he's not, but it's very easy to interpret him as being problematic, and most dumbasses choose the easy option
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:20:56 PM No.149005466
>>149005459
Watch your mouth, anon, or you'll have to do a Cena-style apology video for implying Tibet is real.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:21:59 PM No.149005473
>>149005455
>he wears the costume for all of 5 minutes
Eh maybe half the movie since half is a flashback to them training together

I think Bruce Timm just wanted to play with Shiva and the others
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:22:25 PM No.149005479
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>>149005200 (OP)
Idk but probably
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:23:42 PM No.149005486
>>149005479
It is insane how bad this looks.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:24:00 PM No.149005488
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Batman gets to master 100 different martial arts and fighting styles, have one of his most iconic and story heavy villains be an orientalist stereotype with a league of ninjas, martial artists and assassins. and then he bangs his 'exotic' daughter, which produces an edgy ninja robin that uses a katana.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:24:34 PM No.149005493
>>149005200 (OP)
Fuck "problematic".
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:27:01 PM No.149005501
>>149005310
Sure, that works fine.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:32:01 PM No.149005523
>>149005200 (OP)
>Is Danny Rand as he's actually portrayed problematic?
No, not particularly
>Is the version of Danny Rand that grifters have in their head problematic?
Probably, since he apparently learned kung fu magically while falling from the plane so he could be a master by the time he landed
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:49:41 PM No.149005865
>>149005240
Shut up tranny
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 4:28:18 PM No.149006134
>>149005200 (OP)
Pretty racist of Marvel to turn a character created by chinks whose thing was being a swordmaster with an enchanted sword and turn him into generic kung fu guy
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 6:09:37 PM No.149006936
>>149005200 (OP)
No, the comic fans or the modern comic fans are. Iron Fist were made by a western artist team for a western audience.
I dont mean white, because it can involve everyone you wouldnt call asian or afro-american.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 6:10:44 PM No.149006947
>>149005479
I'm convinced they made this show as bad as possible to have an excuse to raceswap another character
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 8:48:01 PM No.149008479
>>149005200 (OP)
No. And I have no respect for whiners like the guy in that photo (unless he said it's not the right change, I have no idea who the fuck that is). Make your own shit, don't steal others work and justify it as "fixing" something "problematic."
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 8:49:11 PM No.149008486
>>149005200 (OP)
No. The new Chinese iron fist is actually problematic but no one seems to care
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 8:56:34 PM No.149008544
joshua luna iron fist
joshua luna iron fist
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>>149005200 (OP)
Where's my Colonial Man graphic novel, Josh Luna?
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:02:58 PM No.149008587
>>149005488
He knows the white man's fighting techniques like boxing, wrestling, and fencing as well though.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:08:40 PM No.149008637
The times have changed in a very specific way.
The thing is, countercultural rich kids going off to "Asia" and coming back with these supposed "ancient secrets" (aka learning some yoga, some meditation techniques, and a bit about buddhism) was something that was extremely common at the time and basically defined American perception of East Asia back then, especially when the countercultural movement started in the 60s. By the 70s, martial arts were getting really big and America was still under the impression that "Asia" was some mystical place that was able to do all this stuff because it was more "in-sync with the universe" and going there was a common fantasy among American youth.
Now that we know that a lot of this shit is just a exercise, martial skill, and a mechanism in our respiratory system, Asia is demystified and a lot of those same people who traveled there have been exposed as glorified tourists who were mystifying the continent for the sake of making themselves look cooler, so we now intrinsically associate Danny with that now.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:11:54 PM No.149008666
>>149005240
That's wrong, but it's to be expected coming from the mouth of a retard like you
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:12:35 PM No.149008673
>>149008637
Everything you said also applies to Dr. Strange though
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:16:09 PM No.149008713
>>149008673
Not that anon but yeah, Dr. Strange had all sorts of Inscrutable Oriental Mystery shit going on - look at how Ditko drew him initially as well - and Marvel did try to sidestep at least one part of that when the movie was coming out by casting Tilda Swinton as the Ancient One.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:19:27 PM No.149008744
>>149008673
His narrow eyes and black hair makes him go under the radar since he looks kinda Asian.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:20:49 PM No.149008756
>>149008673
doctor strange has problematic aspects of its portrayal of Asian people especially the further back you go, but rand's whole thing was being the inheritor of a made up Asian country's special mystical kung fu power and Asian martial arts themes are the core component of his character
the sorcerer supreme title is a global title, a native american held the title in the 1800s, and a lot of Strange's comics invoke western ideas of magic than eastern ideas of magic
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:35:14 PM No.149008891
>>149008713
Wasn't that because the Ancient One in the comics is Tibetan? Can't do that and get the Chinese market.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:40:06 PM No.149008938
>>149005501
Nah, 3rd member's gotta be a girl these days. Just use Coleen Wing.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:41:33 PM No.149008953
>>149005270
>>149005310
Fuck that, it should be like Colonial Man >>149008544 to contrast with the others.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:44:42 PM No.149008977
>>149008544
This would kick ass. If these guys ran with their awesome ideas instead of made comics about how everything scuks there'd be so many more Asian characters.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:50:25 PM No.149009028
>>149005200 (OP)
Iron Fist is a shit tier character that cant carry a book. Replacing Danny Rand with an Asian character doesnt solve this problem.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:50:42 PM No.149009030
>>149008756
Sure, but by the same metrics he's established as just the most recent inheritor of the title and that he received no less training than anyone else competing for it.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:56:49 PM No.149009098
>>149008891
It's hard to tell. We're talking about the same company that had two characters be "The Mandarin" in Iron Man 3 and neither one was racially appropriate to who the villain was in the actual comics. But again, that could just be another case of them not wanting to offend the Chinese by daring to imply that someone from their universally honorable nation could ever be a villain.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:57:30 PM No.149009107
shiva
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>>149005455
That movie kicked ass and gave me cool 70s Shiva
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:58:33 PM No.149009118
I think Roy Thomas is racist but I thought it was weird he demanded Shang-Chi to be at least half white
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:59:58 PM No.149009136
iron fist 12
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>What Character learns Kung Fu: CULTURAL APPROPRIATION! GREAT WHITE SAVIOR! PROBLEMATIC!
>Asian Character Learns Kung Fu: YOU'RE JUST PERPETUATING CULTURAL STEREOTYPES!

Goddammit I just want to see someone kick someone else in the face!
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:00:57 PM No.149009151
>>149005200 (OP)
Danny Rand is a privilege rich white man. Of course that snowflake is a problematic character.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:01:57 PM No.149009162
>>149005200 (OP)
They should had just made Danny Rand and Luke Cage a gay couple. Misty Knight and Jessica Drew were a mistake.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:04:10 PM No.149009187
>>149009107
It stinks. The animation is subpar, the characters are basically just strangers sharing names with ones you know and it squanders all the promise "Bruce Lee film but with Batman" has. Also Kobra is the main villain and they don't even fucking have him talk like a snake, get this weak shit out of here.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:20:22 PM No.149009329
>>149008544
I mean the irony is if you've seen how Eastern media portrays Westerners and specifically Americans, they have their own fetishization of our culture as well.
The general idea of Americans being "Guns Blazing McBold" is basically 75% of all American males in Japanese anime while the women are very typically drawn as "Blonde bombshell" Marilyn Monroe-inspired types.
Fetishization of "the foreign exotic" is pretty universal across all nations and both sexes, it's moreso that America is a place where people assume they can somehow emulate that via the local population of Asian-Americans.
Meanwhile, old British women will go to the Carribeans specifically to fuck black guys. Don't even get me started on what the French do with the North Africans.
Lots of Napoleon's men during his campaign to Egpyt were expecting to get their glorious Cleopatra waifus up until the language barrier reared its head
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:21:12 PM No.149009334
disgusting
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>>149005200 (OP)
>Danny Rand
Look at what my descendants have become. It's revolting.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:23:28 PM No.149009351
John Cho in The Patriot - Copy
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>>149008544
If I had the money I would make this into a full-blown action blockbuster just to spite this asshole. Imagine The Patriot, but with John Cho instead of Mel Gibson.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:25:30 PM No.149009363
>>149009334
Was it ever stated that Danny has russian ancestry?
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:26:11 PM No.149009366
>>149009187
Nah, it was fun. And you're a bitch.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:26:30 PM No.149009369
>>149008713
I still think itโ€™s insane marvel could have sidestepped some of the white savior shit by not having Stephen just learn everything about magic in like six months. They had such an easy fucking out by giving him the white streaks after a time skip to show how hard he trained but no, heโ€™s just better at magic than everyone else within a month.
What they should have done is establish the accident happening around the same time as Iron Man 1, then have Stephen drop out of society for like 8 years to become a wizard.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:29:57 PM No.149009398
>>149009334
They should lean into it and have Danny be a descendant of an actually successful Ayn Rand, and have Danny be a communist reckoning with the legacy of his family.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:33:18 PM No.149009439
>>149009118
The tv show Kung Fu had the lead character be half-white (in story at least. The actual actor was just white), so I feel it was more a cynical decision like having a white mom would make him sell better. Since Shang-Chi was drawn and colored very Asian looking and his mother was a non entity, it really didn't matter.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:36:27 PM No.149009469
>>149005200 (OP)
when they resurrect him, give him mystical mma powers that he earned by defeating a kraken in fantasy greece or some shit
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:37:32 PM No.149009476
>>149009366
Hey, if you're happy to have no standards whatsoever, that's your choice.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:38:13 PM No.149009479
>>149009469
Resurrect Danny Rand is cultural appropriating Ancient Egyptians this time. His outfit also look even worse than his original.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:39:21 PM No.149009489
>>149009479
Hold the fuck up. What's wrong with his original outfit?
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:39:35 PM No.149009493
If Danny Rand is a problem, I wonder how David Rand would be judged.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:41:17 PM No.149009510
>>149009489
Pop-up collar like some douchebag.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:42:26 PM No.149009520
>>149009510
Fuck you, the collar rules. It's so good DC had stolen it for Karate Kid within a year.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:43:23 PM No.149009531
no
white people are allowed to learn kung fu
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:49:39 PM No.149009603
>>149009439
Kung Fu was plagiarized from a series originally pitched by Bruce Lee though and he talked about why.
>"the problems that you face as a Chinese hero in an American series. Have people come up in the industry and said 'well, we don't know how the audience are going to take a non-American'?"
>Lee replied, "Well, such question has been raised, in fact, it is being discussed. That is why The Warrior is probably not going to be on." Lee adds, "They think that business-wise it is a risk. I don't blame them. If the situation were reversed, and an American star were to come to Hong Kong, and I was the man with the money, I would have my own concerns as to whether the acceptance would be there."
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:59:20 PM No.149009690
>>149005488
In fairness, anon.

People like OP are complaining about Batman knowing Martial Arts too.

It is why many modern Batman adaptations (like The Batman) have him learning boxing/military-style fighting from Alfred.


Asians just hate White people learning martial arts and get butthurt at them doing so.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 11:06:06 PM No.149009757
>>149009690
>Asians just hate White people learning martial arts and get butthurt at them doing so.
Absurd.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 11:14:35 PM No.149009883
>>149009757
It's more that Asians hate the West in general because that whole "century of humiliation" thing has never really left their public conscious.
Asians hate Americans particularly because we terrify them
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 11:19:15 PM No.149009927
>>149005258
He causes Asians to die of cope and seethe.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 11:20:20 PM No.149009935
>>149009520
Pop-up collar is trash.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 11:25:49 PM No.149009991
>>149009136
What happens when a black guy learns kung fu?
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 11:27:31 PM No.149010011
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>>149009351
>If I had the money I would make this into a full-blown action blockbuster just to spite this asshole
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 11:38:52 PM No.149010139
>>149009991
You would get black Batman, the best Batman and the one destined to save Gotham in ways Bruce never could.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:14:11 AM No.149010545
>>149010139
Oh, right. The whole black Batfamily is a thing. I forgot them.

So when's the blackman going to save Gotham? After he comes back from going out for a pack of menthols?
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:37:34 AM No.149010765
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>>149010011
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:10:43 AM No.149011084
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>>149005200 (OP)
It's a flawed argument because what makes Danny appealing is that he's an outsider on multiple levels and unsuccessful by the standards of the society he came from (in fact, by repeatedly losing the business he inherited, he's something of a trashfire).
As a kid his parents were taken from him by a loatheseome bastard. He went from child to man in a society where he was constantly reminded he didn't belong, pouring EVERYTHING he had into becoming a man that could avenge his parents. Then when he finally got a chance to strike down The Bastard, he strolled through the guy's gauntlet of defenses like it was nothing, confronted the shithead... and discovered his sworn enemy, the man he'd obsessed about for a decade, was a pathetic crippled jumpy shell of a man that had KNOWN Danny would be coming all that time, had KNOWN Danny would show up a one-man-army, and hadn't known a moment's rest. Just an utter loser, so pathetic that Danny was left going "Jesus fuck, I'm so far above you I can't even see you down there, you're nothing compared to me, and you're already so miserable it's actually a bigger punishment to leave you here like this, crippled and paranoid." And then someone else immediately killed the dude, robbing Danny of his vengeance and purpose in one stroke.
He was left an outsider in the "Normal" world he hadn't been part of for a decade, an outsider in the "not-home" he'd grown up in, even an outsider hanging with his BFF in Harlem where he stuck out like... well, like a white dude in pajamas in Harlem. There is nowhere on Earth he can go without people looking at him and going "fucking weirdo." And after some early angst he became known for just rolling with it. "Yup, I'm a big weirdo, you got me."

Going "Hmm, maybe we should make him Chinese, because K'un Lun is kinda Chinese-ish" misses what makes him fun to a staggering degree.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:12:03 AM No.149011096
sho nuff
sho nuff
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>>149009991
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:12:59 AM No.149011106
>>149011096
Sho Nuff.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:18:22 AM No.149011798
>>149011084
I feel like this should be printed on the cover of every comic Danny shows up in. Danny has no place he really belongs. This is also why his relationships with people like Luke and Misty are so essential to his character in ways that aren't quite so important to lots of other heroes.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:21:34 AM No.149011837
>>149005200 (OP)
not really, but he kind of shows maybe some characters aren't worth bringing back
i don't know why they bother so much with a character that never stopped being a c-list
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:23:12 AM No.149011849
>>149005200 (OP)
People who think they have to do social justice calculus to determine if enough imaginary justice points have been accumulated in order to tolerate the idea of a fictional character doing imaginary kung fu are the problem.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:24:18 AM No.149011859
>>149011837
>Why should things that aren't A-List exist?
BECAUSE IT'S SO MUCH FUN, JAN!
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:02:31 AM No.149012306
>>149011837
Hal Jordan should had stayed dead.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:10:26 AM No.149012394
>>149012306
Hal Jordan wasn't a c-lister.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:33:52 AM No.149012708
>>149012394
Hal Jordan also wasn't an A-lister.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:38:09 AM No.149012789
>>149012708
He's like one of the top 5 superheroes of his universe. Of course he is.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:46:01 AM No.149012891
>>149012789
In-universe popularity isn't the same as real-life popularity.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:50:47 AM No.149012960
>>149012306
Nigga, had you read the Green Lantern books prior to his return?
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:56:24 AM No.149013045
>>149012789
>Hal Jordan is an A-Lister
Go to bed, Hal.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:00:35 AM No.149013090
>>149005200 (OP)
No, that's the whole point of the character
He's supposed to be an outsider that embraced K'unLun and proved that the worthiness of being an Iron Fist comes from within, not how Ching your Chongs are
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:39:32 AM No.149013536
>>149012789
Hal Jordan definitely isn't a top 5 DC superhero. He isn't replacing Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Robin, Supergirl, and maybe Flash whom are all ahead of him.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:04:43 AM No.149013856
>>149005368
So does that mean we canโ€™t have Asian characters wearing suits or using modern firearms since that would just be appropriating culture and feeding into colonial ideas?
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:08:14 AM No.149013909
Nord
Nord
md5: ffb49d73b17f5a26aeaeb6920b4734c0๐Ÿ”
>>149008544
I would definitely read this, I want his Fat Cobra to be something like pic related.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:13:24 AM No.149013994
p01k0dbk
p01k0dbk
md5: fbf2561096ffd1cf09db07aeff1ac96b๐Ÿ”
>>149008544
I like Shanghai Noon with Jackie Chan becoming a cowboy.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:14:14 AM No.149014002
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md5: f907f3350e9c498fd3f902a977f7b2da๐Ÿ”
>>149008544
Here, have something with a similar "vibe" that's actually based.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7FHMgkgCuM
Replies: >>149018293 >>149018312 >>149018590
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:23:13 AM No.149014117
Iron Fist
Iron Fist
md5: f9a4602c581c35aeb56f622be9000c03๐Ÿ”
>Feige didn't want the Ancient One to be Asian because it would offend China (Tibet thing)
>Also having the old Asian man teach a white person would also be seen as clichรฉ.
>Kamar-Taj ends up purposefully diverse.
>A very tiny few people complained.

>Civil war between Feige and Perlmutter over the MCU hits the Netflix shows.
>Iron Fist is rushed into production and ends up as the weakest of the bunch.
>Few Asian American people mention this shit again as if it really mattered now that they didn't have MCU representation.
>Perlmutter didn't care about diversity but Feige did, Feige won long term.

>Kevin Feige decides to course correct based on the complaints of so very few.
>Decides to make Shang Chi, completely avoiding the comics at all for obvious reasons.
>Hypes it up as being on Black Panther's level but for Asians.
>Does fine for COVID times but actual Asians seem less impressed.
>And Asian Americans, who claimed to have wanted this, don't seem too fussed.
>They didn't turn out like the black people did for Black Panther.

>Shang Chi gets completely changed in the comics.
>Now it is all bland as fuck Chinese myth type shit.
>In a way it is so bland that it is kind of racist how bland it is?
>Oh and Danny gets killed so we can get an Asian Iron Fist for comics and new adaptations (games).

>Bonus round: lolcow Joshua Luna made Asian Iron Fist his cause cรฉlรจbre.
>Then didn't mention Shang Chi and completely turned on the MCU/superheroes anyway.
>Went off the deep end full ricecel madness.
>Then got some pussy and dropped his angry comics for lighter comics talking about his dog and gf.
>He seems happy now.

And that my friends is a short history of Asian Iron Fist saga.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:24:14 AM No.149014141
>>149005200 (OP)
Fuck this pathetic and apologetic generation. Everyone comes up with their own OC that's better than everyone else.
Replies: >>149014348
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:27:41 AM No.149014186
Even after being in a massive hit game marvel did nothing with lin and they probably won't ever
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:39:23 AM No.149014330
Is the upcoming undead Danny meant to be the new status quo or just a one shot?
Replies: >>149014362 >>149014481
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:41:45 AM No.149014348
>>149014141
My favorite OCs are Cosmic Ghost Rider and Hulkverine.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:43:33 AM No.149014362
>>149014330
Marvel resurrecting Danny Rand but with significantly worth aesthetics.
Replies: >>149014370
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:44:34 AM No.149014370
UDIRONFIST2025001_Cover
UDIRONFIST2025001_Cover
md5: 0bf924b145f1a452ef964ac24bc743fa๐Ÿ”
>>149014362
Impossible to look at this design and think it's great.
Replies: >>149017089 >>149017537
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:47:13 AM No.149014399
>>149005200 (OP)
>Asian superhero
>His superpower is that he's really good at Kung Fu
The irony of progressives will never stop being funny.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:51:44 AM No.149014460
>>149009991
That's Blaxploitation.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:53:17 AM No.149014481
>>149014330
It'll either stick around or they'll kill him off at the end. Zero percent chance they make him Iron Fist again
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:54:00 AM No.149014493
>>149005200 (OP)
God who even fucking cares anymore? How about we all just stop making things? Its clear that its fucking pointless now given how degraded humanity has become.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:01:29 AM No.149014605
>>149005200 (OP)
No. The problem isn't with Danny but with management.

>it's the 70s
>martial arts becomes trendy in pop fiction via imported Asian movies
>execs don't want asian protagonists because they're racist and fear audiences won't buy it
>creators decide to create a white guy with martial arts skill (Snake Eyes) as a substitute
>people grow to love this character, so more white martial artist characters are created in response
>eventually the boom dies down, but these characters stick around

cut to the 2010s
>Obama administration this, Blackrock that, yadda yadda liberals demand more diversity in media
>Snake Eyes and Iron Fist are re-examined and framed as wholely racist because a white guy being a martial arts action hero takes away attention from asian ones
>in response, these characters are made Asian to not give the impression of being racist

The problem with removing these characters or race-swapping them is that Snake Eyes and Iron Fist's stories actually took advantage of the "white guy learns skills in an exotic locale + white savior + dances with wolves" foundations to make something interesting and emotionally compelling. Them being white IS crucial to their identity, so making them Asian or removing them not only bungles the storytelling that distinguishes itself from the turbo-racist stuff from decades in the past, but ignores the history of racism surrounding the fact as to why they were made white in the first place while also still not being "progressive enough" according to the standards of liberals
Replies: >>149017216 >>149017529
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:11:15 AM No.149014768
Only Asians can practice the way of martial arts. Whitey should stick to boxing and shit
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:41:52 AM No.149017089
>>149014370
Man that is just a clusterfuck of a design
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:52:25 AM No.149017216
>>149014605
Honestly we just be happy that Danny never got the full โ€œsnake eyesโ€ treatment, as little as that is I guess
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:55:19 AM No.149017242
Danny Rand and Luke Cage should had became Marvel's gay power couple.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:10:54 AM No.149017392
>>149005200 (OP)
Only in that problematic means people whine about him regardless, not that there's an actual problem. The people who bitch about Danny rand being white are a bigger problem than he is.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:18:01 AM No.149017458
>>149005324
It's the entire fucking point. He should be culturally asian.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:21:08 AM No.149017484
>>149009690
>Asians just hate White people learning martial arts and get butthurt at them doing so.
Be specific. Asian americans like Josh luna, but it's mostly white people. Take a pol at comicet of both creators and fans, and see who objects to iron fist.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:25:57 AM No.149017527
>>149014117
So, one key takeaway is to ignore the FUCK out of the Josh lunas of the world.
Replies: >>149017553
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:26:20 AM No.149017529
>>149014605
Whenever I hear people bitch about this sort of thing I ask them to name five Kung Fu movies or Asian heroes/characters. Like I see people bitching and complaining but most of them donโ€™t even know what shit like Wushu is. There are plenty of Asian heroes they just donโ€™t know about them, and Asian media has no issue taking western shit and putting into their stories. It seems to be almost exclusively Asian Americans bitching about this stuff.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:26:57 AM No.149017537
>>149014370
Looks like he's about to go to outerworld for some Mortalk Kombat.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:28:35 AM No.149017553
>>149017527
>So, one key takeaway is to ignore the FUCK out of the Josh lunas of the world
Pretty much yeah, whenever people complain about this kind of stuff itโ€™s always from a place of ignorance and just blind anger.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:52:50 AM No.149017719
>>149017529
It's kinda complicated. For Asian immigrants and first-gen they can usually fall back on the film industries of their country of origin because it's both culturally and linguistically accessible. And Hollywood, when tasked to have ethnically Asian leads and stories by Asian-Americans, usually defaults to a foreign actor, having an AA actor play a foreigner, martial arts, or a story about someone reconnecting with their Asian heritage which doesn't fully address why they're making demands in the first place.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:03:20 AM No.149017780
>>149017529
Nonwhites are deliberately kept in a constant state of schizophrenia about their national identity. They do have grounds to complain.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:17:18 AM No.149017835
>>149005200 (OP)
You can blame white people with their savior complex and fake activism for this. Most normal people don't care whether Iron Fist is Asian or not. Most people don't care about a popular X-men member being gay or having a black Spider-man. White people started that on there own and decided to implement those changes on their own for some meaningless social media approval.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:22:05 AM No.149017852
>>149005200 (OP)
Why did they abort Danny and Misty's baby?
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:27:42 AM No.149017885
>>149005258
He killed his father and contributed to his own mother's death.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:32:30 AM No.149017912
>>149005324
Yeah, absolutely retarded. Bruce Wayne did it correctly by not using asian aesthetic
Replies: >>149018302
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:34:40 AM No.149017922
>>149005200 (OP)
Snowflakes that never cared about Danny suddenly complaining now that he was replaced. Same people complained about Iceman being gay despite never being a fan of Iceman.
Replies: >>149019476
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:40:33 AM No.149017950
>>149014117
It's a massive improvement. Iron fist show disgusted me
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:06:00 AM No.149018048
>>149014117
>Shang Chi gets completely changed in the comics.
I read the last issue of one of his synergy runs and Shang Chi, the Master of Kung Fu, doesn't even fucking punch anyone. All he does is use the dumbass rings. I hate that fucking movie.
Anonymous !!5XMzXh4OfC3
6/15/2025, 12:23:37 PM No.149018288
>>149012306
>should had

jesus at least you didn't write should of, this is a new one
Anonymous !!5XMzXh4OfC3
6/15/2025, 12:25:15 PM No.149018293
>>149014002

huh, never knew this existed
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:28:54 PM No.149018302
>>149017912
>absolutely retarded.
That's (You).
Anonymous !!5XMzXh4OfC3
6/15/2025, 12:32:59 PM No.149018312
>>149014002
oh god that horse wtf
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:34:46 PM No.149018543
>Nigga doesn't understand his own culture

Rand isn't racist. In fact if Rand was made in HK, they would have doubled down on the stereotypes but the OP wants his moment of fame. I know it's wrong to speak for someone else experience but, that's just lazy research. And it's worse than blogposting. About that game designs, mostly dull. They should do like Capcom did by copying the designs that fit their style. I'm not hyped for this game Arc Sys is slow on updates and will leave the game broken. I also don't like the โ€œnewโ€ input system. Also lazy. Fuck them
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:45:49 PM No.149018590
>>149014002
Loved this cute comfy show
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:15:18 PM No.149019022
>Iron Fist -> :(
>Afro Samurai -> :-)
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:59:25 PM No.149019312
>>149005323
Only people who think he is problematic never read his material and just want attention for being special snow flakes.

He is problematic the same way any char in a story being a historical first is.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:06:36 PM No.149019360
250px-Freedom_Force
250px-Freedom_Force
md5: 562f0f82689a7a214024a81df404df21๐Ÿ”
>>149008544
Could work. If in DC connect him to Uncle Sam and his power set.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:09:35 PM No.149019376
>>149009690
Asians don't give a shit about comics and just play their boob gatchas and iseakis shit.

Zoomer asian americans need special status and see an easy target.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:22:56 PM No.149019476
>>149017922
next thing you will say is that only fake fans cared when Thor was replaced with Whor
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:09:33 PM No.149019816
josh luna cuck
josh luna cuck
md5: e81d29df873a093b36595c3e5f1c89aa๐Ÿ”
>>149008544
Reminder that Josh has a cuck fetish with white bulls