I got to see this early. AMA. To start off with, here is a plot dump.
>movie begins in a space museum, Elio and his aunt are visiting. His aunt is in line for a promotion at the space base where she works but the death of Elio's parents and his general 'tism keep stopping her from getting it.
>Elio is having a 'tism attack under the table in the museum cafeteria, space is his special interest. He runs off into an exhibit that they are still building about the golden record that was sent into space. Cool visuals ensue as he triggers a display and he learns about the possibility of alien life. His aunt tells him aliens don't exist. Cut to titles.
>Timeskip. Elio is older and is wasting the time he could be spending socialising by trying to attract aliens to abduct him. He skips school to draw circles in the sand and shit to attract them. His aunt is pissed that he isn't growing out of his 'tism and says he needs to make friends.
>Elio gets into an altercation with two other boys, Caleb and Bryce, who also have 'tism about space and radios. During the fight the radio antenna jabs Elio in the eye. Hence the eyepatch.
>On the base, one of the aunt's coworkers claims to be receiving an alien signal. He plays it back for everyone but it's unconvincing so he gets sacked for being 'crazy.' Elio sneaks in later while the room is empty and sends a message to the aliens begging them to come get him. He signs off with 'okay, bye, I love you!' which the aliens misinterpret as a common Earth greeting and it's repeated about fifty times throughout the film. It's not as funny as they probably thought it was.
>Elio's message happens to coincide with the aliens discovering the golden record, and so they assume Elio sent it and that he is the leader of Earth.
>Elio's stunt causes a power outage on the base and the aunt almost loses her job. She loses patience and ships off Elio to boarding school to get his shit together. Caleb and Bryce are also there and make his life hell.
>That night, the bullies chase Elio into the woods and are about to beat him up when time freezes. Very cool visual of the ocean at a standstill. The aliens arrive in a very 80s disco ship and beam Elio up. He is ecstatic.
>The ship's computer is a little blob thing named Oooooo. They give Elio a translator disc so he can talk to all the different alien species.
>Elio is taken to the 'Communiverse' which is basically an intergalactic UN. Lots of other ambassadors are met, none of them super memorable but they look cool.
>Everyone is also super addicted to this weird goopy drink named 'glorp', guarantee you they will be selling it in the parks soon.
>When Elio arrives, an asshole alien named Lord Grigon is moaning that they won't accept him onto the council for being too intolerant and violent. He shoots up some shit, swears vengeance and leaves.
>The aliens are about to send Elio home due to the escalating conflict but he volunteers as the "leader of Earth" to negotiate with Grigon. He goes to an all-knowledgeable space search engine thing and downloads all knowledge about diplomacy to help with this.
>To take Elio's place while he's dealing with this, Ooooo uses 'cloning clay' to create a slightly creepy replica of Elio who goes to Earth and basically acts exactly how the aunt always wanted Elio to act (no longer autistic, clean, sociable).
>Elio meets with Grigon and he wants a shooting match, which Elio bullshits his way through. Then Elio tries diplomacy and finds out Grigon has a son he has a strained relationship with.
>This emotional approach almost works but Elio implies Grigon might be a bad dad which pisses him off and he imprisons Elio.
>Elio slips out of prison (funny visual gag with the bones of other former prisoners) but falls down into a giant spiderweb. He is almost eaten by its occupant but the translator disc lets him talk to the monster.
>This is Glordon, Grigon's son and actually a big softie. He's your standard marketable plushie, but the kid voicing him actually does a really, really good job. Best child performance I have heard in years.
>Elio and Glordon escape. Glordon explains that his dad wants him to take this ceremony where he will be sealed into his carapace battle armour, from which you can't be removed once you're installed and turns you into a killing machine.
>Elio and Glordon dodge a lava flume by hiding Elio in Glordon's mouth. Elio gets the idea to use Glordon as a bargaining chip against Grigon. They go back to the Communiverse, phone up Grigon and tell him to withdraw or they'll kill Glordon (Glordon plays along). Grigon agrees and says he'll be there to collect his son soon.
>In the meantime, we get one of those classic Pixar friendship montages where Elio and Glordon bond. Very cute. They share a moment about feeling isolated, and Glordon admits he doesn't want to do the ceremony but can't tell his dad.
>Grigon arrives to collect his son. Elio gets the idea to use the cloning clay and makes a fake Glordon. The real Glordon hides in an escape pod.
>Grigon believes the fake and does the ceremony there and then, with clone!Glordon being robotized. Very effective scene, quite creepy.
>Grigon is about to leave but then clone!Glordon starts going on about how much he loves killing. Grigon immediately clocks that something is wrong and fucking murders the clone with a headshot.
>Grigon is pissed and summons his troops to nuke the Communiverse. The ambassadors are made to read Elio's mind by Grigon (forgot to mention, one of them can read minds) and they realize he has been lying all along. They eject him to Earth and he lands in the water where they abducted him.
>Meanwhile, the B plot of the film has been the aunt descending into paranoia over this perfect new Elio, gathering notes on him like that It's Always Sunny corkboard meme. It culminates in a bit of body horror when she takes his eyepatch off and he only has one eye, the clone just assumed he only had the one and the eyepatch was part of his physiology.
>She blows off fake Elio and sets up lights to attract the aliens like Elio did at the start. They are revealed to say 'please bring him home.' Super touching. Real Elio finds her and they bond over feeling lost and not knowing what to do.
>Meanwhile, Glordon accidentally triggers the escape pod to go to Earth. He crashes into the base and the military goes apeshit, there's talk of NASA coming to check it out. He starts dying because of Earth's atmosphere.
>Olga (that's the aunt's name) and Elio break into the base using clone!Elio (who is now behaving like a retired actor, very funny) as a distraction. They get into Glordon's pod and fly it into space.
>The ship runs into debris fields which they have no hope of navigating, so Elio radios Caleb to make amends for the fighting. Caleb uses his radio 'tism to contact Olga's disgraced coworker, who in turn contacts people from all over the globe to triangulate the space debris.
>Obligatory scene where Elio realises he was not alone with his space 'tism as all these different nationalities come together to help pilot the ship. They make it through the debris field and hyperspeed to the Communiverse.
>Grigon is still blowing shit up but stops when he sees Glordon dead. He manages to break open his battle armour, hurting himself in the process. He then goes to his son and swaddles him in webbing like a baby, cradles him. Very tender scene.
>Glordon slowly comes back to life, because of fucking course he does. Elio encourages Glordon to tell his dad he doesn't want to do the ceremony, but turns out Grigon already knew but just didn't know how to talk about it. Says he will always love his son regardless.
>The ambassadors offer to let Elio stay as the representative of Earth for real, but he says he never gave Earth a proper shot and decides to leave with his aunt. Cute moment where the translator disc powers off but Elio still understands what Glordon is saying: 'okay, bye, I love you.'
>Back on Earth, Elio makes friends with the other boys and they build radios together. The Communiverse appears in the sky as Elio and Olga look on. The last moment is a message coming in from Glordon over the homemade radio. Credits.
Overall, actually a pretty good film. Miles above Elemental.
>>149008808>Overall, actually a pretty good film. Miles above Elemental.Now that's a shyamalan tier twist.
>>149008922Yeah. I was surprised given its development hell.
What do you make of the plot?
>>149008751 (OP)I can't get past how bad the character's fundamental design it. It looks like a 3d version of the cheap modern ping-pong-ball-eyes cartoon characters.
>>149008922At least Elemental, Ember looks cute. Elio has the same beanmouth garbage that would make it annoying to watch.
>>149008751 (OP)did they explicitly make him autistic?
>>149009115They don't use the word, but it's about as obvious as they could possibly make it.
Sounds like shallow "you're perfect the way you are!! (no matter how your behavior affects others)" shtick. Even Elio becoming less of a sperg at the end is just his surroundings changing to suit him.
>>149009220To be fair, were they supposed to make the message "autists should just get over it"?
>>149009113only if you're terminally online
>>149009288If they had balls.
>>149009288The message should be that autists need to be euthanized for the benefit of all humanity.
>>149008781>The ambassadors are made to read Elio's mind by Grigon (forgot to mention, one of them can read minds)why didn't they do that earlier? seems like a thing to do.
>>149009347but then there would be no users posting on this website
>>149008751 (OP)i like this one.
>>149009370They offer to but he declines and they don't press the issue.
>>149009402>>149009405This one, she's the mind reader.
>>149009419based alien waifu
Why does Grigon want to join the commie-verse if he's so violent, anyway?
>>149009467He says between his army and their knowledge they would be an unstoppable alliance.
>>149009300Nah, fuck the beanmouth style, that style still exists in modern cartoons since the 2010s and hasnโt gone away like artstyle trends are supposed to. Pixar has used that garbage style for every film thatโs an original IP since Luca, I like it when studios mix up their artstyles, but if you make all have the same 3D beanmouth style, are you really even mixing them up at all?
Honestly by the looks of their upcoming cat film it seems like their moving away from that beanmouth style, theyโve done great-looking stylized films in the past like The Incredibles and Up which Iโd love to see more of, or maybe make another original film in the classic Pixar artstyle.
>>149008751 (OP)Where in the film is the obligatory Pizza Planet Truck appearance? If you were able to find it.
Also who does the obligatory John Ratzenburg voice in it?
>My son, when member of our race become adults we are given robotic exo-skeletons to make us more powerful.
>But I don't wanna! Can't I just be a kid forever?
>>149008771>Everyone is also super addicted to this weird goopy drink named 'glorp',I will be buying this cup when I see Elio this week, but only to sneak alcohol into it while I watch this shit.
>>149009557Forgot the image
>>149009551Based Glordon recognising the value of childhood.
>>149009545Didn't spot the truck. Probably near the military base if I had to hazard a guess where to look. Lots of vehicles there.
No Ratzenberger cameo, there has not been one since Onward.
>>149009577Are the other ends of the straw non-functional?
>>149008751 (OP)Not watching this hideous shit
>have to cancel my showing on the 19th because I have to work
Damn. At least literally nobody is seeing this movie, so I can just buy tickets for later and (basically) watch it alone.
>>149008751 (OP)are the aliens sexy
>>149009866They're all insectoids or geometric blobs.
>>149009623I mean Ratzenburg did appear in Inside Out 2
>>149009918Doesn't sound too different from what /co/ usually drools over
>>149010032That was a role reprisal.
Will Pixar ever make another movie that isn't for the autistic Cartoon Network audience again?
>>149009918but are they sexy
>>149009498Hoppers and Gatto seem to be moving away from it
This movie gonna bomba bad baaaad
>>149009498Hoppers seems to be moving away from it too
This is dogshit
Well not completely dogshit (Lightyear) but still its gonna do some real nasty damage to Pixar
>>149009551i saw an interview with brad garrett, he said the exoskeleton is symbolism of the ways we harden ourselves when we are adults who were constantly rejected as children which lines up with him ditching it when he's at his most vulnerable - holding his dying son
>>149010628What makes it dogshit? Nothing leaps out as being terrible.
>>149010096going by
>>149009402the answer is yes
>>149010642You probably love turning red
>>149008751 (OP)Seems weirder now that EVERYTHING has to have a panic attack episode in it. When it's once or twice it makes for some novelty thing, but it's every fucking movie.
>>149009498It's sticking around due to the fact that animation in the US has become so small and so insular that it's the exact same small group of people working on just about everything. The fact that no new blood could make it into the industry at all over the last 5 years means the same people in charge of every production in 2014 are still in charge of every production now.
>>149010353Pixarโs dropping the beanmouth style, beanmouth shows like Big City Greens and Primos are getting cancelled. Is that wretched artstyle finally dying?
>>149011043>Animations getting fucked over by streaming>Most modern cartoon artstyles look like shit>Many animated series are getting canned after one season>Most notable and successful cartoons of the decade are ones based on pre-existing IPstruly are in a second animation dark age
>>149008751 (OP)>Let me get this straight. Does anyone here NOT have autism?
>>149009153Luca is Turning Red for homos (although it came before TR). This movie is like a mix of Owl House and Chicken Little with aliens instead of witches.
>>149011116>This movie is like a mix of Owl HouseSo it's for trannies then
>>149008751 (OP)Any fanservicy shota moments that haven't been included in the promos?
>>149009347Self loathing isn't an attractive personality trait
>>149010913Don't forgot
>muh generwational twauma
>>149008751 (OP)>one of the aunt's coworkers claims to be receiving an alien signal.>He plays it back for everyone but it's unconvincing so he gets sacked for being 'crazy.'seems kind of harsh
>Elio's stunt causes a power outage on the base>aunt almost loses her jobsure
This movie will flop harder than Elemental.
>>149008751 (OP)Any other fetish stuff besides Elio going inside Glordon?
Please tell me Elio inflates
>>149008771>>Everyone is also super addicted to this weird goopy drink named 'glorp', guarantee you they will be selling it in the parks soon.Anything to make Tomorrowland or Epcot worth something
>>uses 'cloning clay' to create a slightly creepy replica of ElioNow neither of us will be autistic virgins
>>It culminates in a bit of body horror when she takes his eyepatch off and he only has one eye, the clone just assumed he only had the one and the eyepatch was part of his physiology.Cool that it's not just a relationship thing.
>>149009347t. Self hating autist
>>149013264Dios mio...
El ogrillo de las americas...
>>149013251No. But clone Elio melts.
So, how gay is Elio. Also what is the highest rule 34 power character?
>>149008808>Miles above Elemental.That's not a high bar.
>>149008781>he ambassadors are made to read Elio's mind by Grigon (forgot to mention, one of them can read minds) and they realize he has been lying all along. They eject him to Earth and he lands in the water where they abducted him.Fucking.... ugh, hate liar revealed shit.
>>149008751 (OP)>boarding schoolIt was supposed to be a summer camp. So either the book is full of shit, or you are.
Anyway we have known it's some lame Lilo & Stitch ripoff for like a month. Not reading the rest of the summary, but there's no way in hell this grubhubian slop is good.
>>149010634It's symbolic of the creators being big fat ugly babies.
>>149017088It's both. It's a campsite but both the aunt and him refer to it as boarding school. By that terminology.
>>149016641Probably the aunt.
Elio shows no interest in sex, only space. I'm sure the internet will interpret Glordon's arc as being about coming out or some shit.
>>149016789They don't really dwell on it. But hey, at least we already know what the Nostalgia Critic review will be.
>>149008808>the translator disc powers off but Elio still understands what Glordon is saying: 'okay, bye, I love you.'How does it sound?
>>149017908Like garbled alien speak.
>anon casually leaks entire movie plot
>thread is dead, zero interest
God this thing is toast.
I just saw the movie, OP is real and straight. VAs, the Turning Red lady and some other Pixar people were there and answered nothing questions from kids like โwill there be an Elio 2โ (they didnโt take any questions from adults to avoid any real questions) that didnโt reveal much.
>>149011132Everything is already in the promos (like his underwear being seen briefly) and this one in the gif was actually cut from the final movie unless I fell asleep briefly
>>149018800Did you enjoy it anon? Where does it rank for you in terms of nu Pixar?
>>149018904Yeah, I genuinely think itโs a really good movie. I havenโt seen a lot of the recent Pixar movies so Iโm not sure how Iโd rank it amongst them. I had some insider knowledge about the rewrites that made me apprehensive, but there arenโt really any obvious seams/plot holes resulting from the movie being reworked. Though if youโre familiar with the original version which was a little darker in tone, itโs pretty transparent that the movie was testing badly before the original director left and Turning Red lady was told by Disney to make it lighter/funnier. Elio himself is really cute.
>>149019096The one thing I really preferred from the OG trailer was the message to the aliens being due to them intercepting the phone call from Elio to his aunt and misinterpreting: "please come and get me." You know, because he was being bullied at camp. Way more emotional.
That kind of feels like the entire conceit of the film, the clever selling point, and they now had to write around it by making him a total autist.
>>149019134Yeah, before the original director left (I suspect he was actually kicked off the project but they wonโt say that publicly) the idea was that Elio was scared of aliens and not an autist obsessed with them. They reworked the entire first quarter or so of the movie and trashed a ton of fully animated scenes, the original abduction where heโs scared of aliens is in the OG trailer.
>>149019168Interesting. Was the whole thing with Glordon in the original version?
>>149019193As far as I understand, the story after he actually got to space played out mostly the same way. The director mentioned in the q&a amongst the non-answers to useless kid questions that the first scene of the movie was the last scene made, which is pretty telling when the original trailer is all stuff from the first act. The Okbyeiloveyou repetition is clearly something they wrote around with the new premise and had to make it into a funny catchphrase.
>>149009006The plot actually sounds quite good. Although I think the art style will make it so the movie doesn't break even.
Years of development hell, $300m spent, and this movie is going to go out like a wet fart.
Ironic that it sounds like it might actually be good and nobody will see it.
>>149019219They really need to move on from the bean mouth style. We have had five projects with it now and it is so tiresome.
>>149019615It sounds pretty crappy to me, but lets see where they go with it.
>>149020786I actually kind of dig the simplicity of the story. Pixar have been huffing their farts too much lately, people forget their films used to just be basic solid buddy comedies with occasional deeper themes.
Not everything has to be Inside Out.
>>149008808>Cute moment where the translator disc powers off but Elio still understands what Glordon is saying: 'okay, bye, I love you.'Alright, you fuckers. You got one smile out of me. One.
>>149020961Agree, only wish the humans didn't look so hideous
>>149020961This. I mean, look at their early output.
>Toy Story 1: Buddy comedy>A Bug's Life: Buddy comedy>Toy Story 2: Buddy comedy>Monsters Inc.: Buddy comedy>Finding Nemo: Buddy comedy>The Incredibles: Superhero movie with buddy comedy elements>Cars: Buddy comedy>Ratatouille: Buddy comedyAnd so on. You get the picture. It wasn't until the 2010s that people decided every Pixar movie had to be a prestige film. What kid wants to watch films about death or puberty or existentialism or generational trauma?
We need to go back to the '2 niggas just shoot the shit and have an adventure and become friends' formula. Elio sounds like it is doing so.
>>149017256its symbolic of ____________________ your mom
>>149021231>We need to go back to the '2 niggas just shoot the shit and have an adventure and become friends' formulaLuca was exactly that and everyone thought the movie was a gay romance.
>>149021954Yeah, and Luca was one of the better recent Pixar films.
>>149021231It sounds like more parenting trauma dumps to me, especially with slug boy there. Autismo doesnt' seem like it's authentic science or authentic autisim, but more super disneyfied celebration like the "we trust the science" signs in people's yarts.
>>149021954>EveryoneOnly those who wanted
>>149008751 (OP)How's the soundtrack?
>>149010353That movie still looks like shit, i think i'll wait till atleast 2030
>>149008751 (OP)Is the entire movie as ugly as it looks in the previews?
>>149023761no you'll watch it when it comes out
>>149023888I'll probably pick up a week 2 piratestream, once they have decent quality ,but i'm expecting trash.
>>149022350Some people just don't want spoilies anon, Elio threads will pick up once it releases nationwide
>>149013264No wonder he's autistic, he's got negative frontal cortex, even worse than a mutt
>>149023675Not the insider anon but I'm sure the score is nice
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>seriously considering seeing the movie on Thursday
>family doesnt want to go, is encouraging me not to go by myself because that'd "be weird"
>check theater seating map online for the showing i want to go to
>only thirteen seats reserved, one seat is off in the corner by himself
lol how grim.
>>149026119This movie will be a historic flop, like John Carter levels
>>149026132pardon the Twitter image but it contributes to the topic
>>149026172and according to my calculations, that's a worse opening than fuckin Lightyear.
>>149008751 (OP)Is this, Luca and Turning Red all in the same universe? They all look the same.
>>149008751 (OP)Pixar's death knell
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>>149009177So it's the usual "Protag is a quirky/weird pre-adolescent" trope. So tired of this shit.
>>149028463They need to go back to having main character kids that are normal. We weren't all the weird in school
>>149009551Just tard things donโt you just love that autists exist , having fits over bullshit like going to the bank on a diffeny day being more likely to be pedophiles or have degenerate fetishes , cocky narcissistic losers that want to be the center of attention and are constantly bored because the idea of doing anything productive or even just putting their happiness into their own hands is just too hard better just tard fit about how fictional waifus arenโt real , or fantasize about some 6 foot dom mom loli making you dress like a baby then eat you or something , what a superpower
>>149028515A Pixar movie about a normie with friends would be the most boring shit imaginable. Where is the drama or room for growth?
>>149026119Weird? Who gives a shit, it's the fucking movie theater. Your family sound like retards, anon. Do what you want.
>>149021231>2 niggas just shoot the shit and have an adventure and become friendsThat's what Onward was but it was still mediocre because it was just Chris Pratt (acting young) and Tom Holland (acting young). I genuinely think people have just forgotten how to make movies with soul. Brad Bird made something as incredible (pun intended) as the Incredibles and then something as terrible as the Incredibles 2. Toy Story just gets worse with each iteration. We've come to a stage where we're lucky if a Disney or Pixar CGI movie is actually good.
>>149030659Onward doesn't count, they were already family.
>>149013264Beanmouth was not made for 3d. I don't know why they tried.
>>149018416Anon didn't leak jack. Disney and pixar spoil their own movies weeks/months in advance by selling picture book adaptations. Here's a storytime, probably screenshotted from some youtube video:
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/148763874/#q148780915
Also looks like the movie came out before the thread was made, on 12th. It's a bunch of nothing, just like the movie itself. Just watch the original Lilo & Stitch, it's the superior "autist kid befriends gay aliens" movie. Luca if you only care about the grubhub shota or Kid Cosmic if you dig how deformed the little boy looks and the movie's anti-fun message. This shit is lame and utterly unoriginal.
>>149031203The movie is not out yet, you moron.
>>149031269>release date: June 20Grim, I can watch this garbage on Thursday in my shithole country. I bet it released early in some other countries, cause if you google "Elio premiere" it mostly says June 12/14. Everybody knows the plot anyway from the trailer and the book so this doesn't matter. Shill OP's opinion about the movie and 5 walls of text full of half-remembered boring details are not much of assistance.
>>149013264>"Yea man, I'm part African. How could you tell?"
>>149026172>Reported budget is of nearly 300 millionDoes that include shit like marketing?
>>149031703No. It got bloated because they essentially made the movie twice. Actual budget for the version that made it into theaters will be about $150m.
>>149031795If you trust world of reel... which you shouldn't.
>>149031203>Just watch the original Lilo & Stitch,thank you for emphasizing that its the original that should be watched. amazing how they dropped the ball on the remake that hard.
>>149011043>so small and so insularmaybe it has to do with how most aspiring animators end up in the blacklist
>>149032486That tends to happen when your industry is run by nonces.
>>149026172Why do people treat these rando fan news accounts like they're the Word of God? I never understood that
>>149008808>miles above elementalno, you just related to a film about an annoying little boy with autism, more than you related to two adults navigating a relationship with differing cultures
>>149033907Or maybe, just maybe, Elemental was garbage.
>>149033907Elemental was a piece of shit made by a fat Asian LARPing out the life he never got to live where he got together with a curvy gf and made his immigrant parents proud of him.
Zero relatability, it was just a personal 90 minute wank.
>>149026119Where is this "get a load of this guy" reaction from?
>>149034336Nevermind found it
>>149033907Didn't Elemental only do well in Asian countries that love consuming garbage romance dramas?
>>149035292say what you will about this movie, but at least it brought back the animated bloopers.
>>149035505Is that that big of an achievement?
>>149036391>last set of pixar bloopers was Monsters Incon a timeframe basis, yes
>>149013264good dick suckin sho mouth
there is webrip of it yet?
>>149038846it's not even actually out until friday, there's just press screenings this week and last week.
>>149033907Elemental felt a bit relatable as a white guy dating an asian chick (and interacting with her family), but outside of that aspect it was a meh movie.
>>149008751 (OP)does elio canonically have autism? please tell me no
>>149034216While I have some respect for the movie in other areas, it was indeed a personal story, much like how Turning Red was. And while I don't think personal stories are bad, having them back to back to back (with the exception of Soul & Lightyear, every Pixar movie in the 2020s so far have drawn their main inspiration from someone's specific childhood/experience), so Elio being a bit more general is a good thing imo.
>>149008751 (OP)Wait I thought this came out a while ago.
>>149009153Turning Red was Turning Red for homos. Sequel when
>>149036904Jesus really? I was still in elementary school, why'd they stop doing them?
>>149011264It's hormone-blocker programming
They want to demonize puberty by associating it with trauma, convince audience members to transition while blocking puberty so they stay kid-sized forever
>>149039511i always thought it was retarded how kids in cartoons act like puberty is some cronenbergesque shit. guess that explains why they do it
>>149039192funny thing is, Elio was going to be vaguely autobiographical, too (original director was a lonely child and stopped being lonely when he went to an art college in California, this was his story but with aliens). then the pixar higher-ups looked at how Turning Red and Luca were received and said "Yeah fuck that, let's go back to the normal stories." hence the major rewrites.
>>149039794>original director was a lonely childwho was a military brat, like Elio. this survived to the final movie
>Boomer landlady saw one ad today on TV and called it a piece of shit
I haven't had a good laugh in a while
>>149008751 (OP)To who is this movie aimed for?
Girls would rather watch a movie starring a female character
Boys would rather watch a movie starring a manly character
Families are turned off by Disney for including homos
People who want comedies would rather watch actual comedies and not safe tumblr slop
People who want adventure films would rather watch actual adventure films and not boring ass safe shit
>>149039794>representing going to CalArts as being abducted by disgusting aliensB-based...?
>>149040687As if girls have never enjoyed Disney movies with male leads before.
>>149039794>"Yeah fuck that, let's go back to the normal stories."Let's make slop .
>>149013264Donkey Kong looking ass
>One of the first reviews complains that the film "lacks any risk taking that has defined films like Turning Red and Soul" and that it "promotes traditional values and dates mantras about the importance of family."
Holy shit, has Pixar come to its senses? Pissing off modern journos can only be a good sign.
>>149042542*dated mantras
>>149042542It pissed them off by serving reheated slop. Or it didn't piss them off at all, it's just a new kind of ad now that wokeshit is out of vogue. Might as well watch Illumination slop at this point, at least in their case you know the "traditional values" are actually there and their shit doesn't look like grubhub ad.
>>149042542>family film promotes family values>this is considered a bad thingthe culture is unrepairable
>>149010634>symbolism of the ways we harden ourselves when we are adults who were constantly rejected as childrenBullcrap. I was abused and almost murdersuicided as a child. I ended up being completely unguarded and open as a cry for help. I wish I had developed a hardened exterior because then I wouldn't be broadcasting my vulnerability and attracting people who take advantage of me or get petty amusement out of hurting me.
>>149013264Say Hey! Shin-chan!
>>149012593Elemental flopped?
The advertising for this movie makes them sound extremely desperate, every new tagline is more pathetic than the last
>>149043830>The Hollywood Reporter noted that by the end of the summer box office season, Elemental had grossed above $480 million worldwide. According to a September 2024 report from IGN, the film needed to have grossed $600 million worldwide to be considered profitable for Pixar due to the profit-sharing model at Disney/Pixar.
How come Pixar isn't promoting the gay character from Elio like they did with Lightyear?
>>149044763The movie doesn't need to drive more people away.
>>149008751 (OP)I don't think I could do a plot retailing like this for any movie I've seen, did you take notes? I have always seen these threads here, but never really thought about it
>>149031203Oh that explains it
>>149042875>>149042542You will never be a victim.
>>149044763>faggots in a kids movie Instant skip
DON'T. STOP. ME.
NOWWWWWWWWWWWWW
>>149044763>reviewers didnt shut up about the gay kiss in Lightyear>reviewers have not mentioned any gay kisses in Elioeither it got cut or reviewers learned their lesson
>>149044763I was wondering about this guy. Like how come the white nerdy guy is a tragically misunderstood, positive character? Are the tides changing? Is the culture war bullshit getting to my head and it's actually totally normal? etc.
The guy being a homo would explain it. And of-fucking-course both of them are ugly.
Then again the bald fuck looks old enough to be the nerd's dad, so maybe that's what he is. Or maybe that's what Pixar wants people to believe after they cut the kiss scene for foreign markets. A dual-purpose ugly bastard. Brilliant, and totally not creepy.
>>149044264>due to the profit-sharing model at Disney/Pixar Fuck's that supposed to mean?
>>149008771Lord Grigon is based.
>>149048226https://foresight.sparklin.com/pixar-s-inside-out-2-saved-the-studio-yet-the-workers-who-made-it-still-suffer
>Pixarโs profit-sharing model, which rewards employees when films hit a certain financial threshold, has also become a source of frustration. Although Inside Out 2 achieved the bonus mark, many workers who were laid off after the filmโs completion wonโt receive it. This is especially disappointing since Pixar promotes bonuses as a key reason for not unionizing with The Animation Guild. "We work all year for that bonus. Itโs part of what makes working at Pixar worth it," said one employee. Another described the decision not to offer bonuses to laid-off workers as "the ultimate slap in the face from Disney."
>>149008751 (OP)Remember when everyone wanted to fuck him?
>>149048866No. I remember that everyone called him ugly and immediately compared him to prettier disney/pixar shotas, tho.
>>149048929Who the fuck is that white kid lol
>>149048929I liked Elliott from Earth
>>149047454Why is everyone behind him a mutt
>>149048421Lord Grigon for Mr. /Co/
>>149008781>clone!Glordon starts going on about how much he loves killing. Grigon immediately clocks that something is wrong and fucking murders the clone with a headshot.Jesus Christ
>>149008808>Back on Earth, Elio makes friends with the other boys and they build radios together. Good. This is the part that the Little Golden book didnโt manage to include but i thought it was missing.
>>149050799Clones aren't people.
I like that it shows that Grigon understands his son; he's not fooled by the clone's pandering
Back from early screening. OP is not a faggot. Expected to hate the movie (and kind of wanted to for schadenfreude), but it was pretty good. Nothing spectacular, but undoubtedly charming. For reference, I did not like Lightyear/Elemental/Inside Out 2, but did like Luca/Turning Red. I was very happy they didn't portray this as an anime-inspired sparkle dog thing, or have a lot of cringeworthy jabs at half the human characters being military. This interview made me worried.
https://www.animationmagazine.net/2025/06/the-creative-team-of-pixars-elio-explore-the-depths-of-their-animated-space-adventure/
It doesn't hurt the story, but it really feels like a work-in-progress with how side characters and locations appear only to disappear. We all know this movie had a tumultuous production, but damn. Stuff like
>>149017088 sticks out where it's very obviously referred to as a military school with brochures and the Air Force aunt saying she used to go here, but then everybody is wearing merit badges and sleeping in campfire tents (also that bully never gets seen again). Like I said, it doesn't really matter to the movie, it's just interesting to be able to peek into a movie without all its fat trimmed off.
Most disappointing thing was the blooper reel not actually showing up at the end. I guess it was just for social media, or maybe it was removed late? Weird. Actual end credit screen is a very awkward teaser for Hoppers, which basically just serves to confirm a throwaway shot of a lizard on a smartphone was an easter egg for an actual character in the next movie.
>>149050958My early screening is tomorrow, so hopefully it's good.
>>149010634Strange way of putting it. You don't get "hardened" when you get older. You just learn to react better to what life throws at you. As gen x, we got the exo skeletons at age 10.
>>149010913In Land Before Time, did Little Foot ever get a panic attack? What about Fivel from American Tail? Kids used to be portrayed with sterner stuff.
>>149008751 (OP)>>149050958So do you think the change from the original premise was worth it?
>>149051333Nice trips. We'll never know what the original would've been like, right?
>>149051399Just going by the premise from that first trailer
>>149026172Why is it so expensive? Did they use ground breaking animation tech or something?
>>149051482I'm not sure what the central threat in the original movie would've been. The Brad Garrett alien seemed like a warrior Klingon who was nonetheless part of the team. I like him being more of a villain in this version because Elio as a space hero makes for a more fun movie than Elio as a space tourist.
I think the original would've been more autobiographical, which despite being a punching bag on the internet, I've never minded in nu-Pixar. This one is clearly sanded down to be as universal as possible. No awkward gay metaphors, no dialogue referencing real-world events or politics. I hate to say that it actually makes the movie better to remove all these personal things, but it does. You aren't constantly distracted by how the plot should be a metaphor for something else, you can just get wrapped up in it as a Spielberg-throwback.
If you really want to make the movie funnier, you could interpret the slug kid struggling for his father's acceptance as him trying to convey to his blue collar dad he wants to be an artist. Made funnier because the trade job in this case is a spiky death suit for pillaging and the galactic space hub is a hippy commune.
You could also joke that Elio's skin complexion is the perfect statistical midtone to be noncontroversial to any audience. Not too dark and not too white.
>>149051500it's not
>The movie cost $150M before P&A. https://deadline.com/2025/06/box-office-preview-28-years-later-elio-1236436173/
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>>149051643The concept art had him with kinkier hair.
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>>149052281Here he is in Military uniform.
>>149052263That's just black Steven Universe
>>149052296If they had gone with this artstyle the pedos would have been creaming their jeans.
>>149052368Translating that design to 3D would require talent, something Disney has lacked for decades.
I can't wait for some future Rick and Morty episode where Rick says "Ok Morty listen, we're gonna have to pull an Elio" and then they fake being the leaders of earth or something.
>>149052263>what if Steven Universe but le 56% face?>whaf if Glgrdsklechhh married a different kind of bottom feeder?>what if they are the protagonists in our new movie?!I hope whoever drew this gets punted into the sun.
>>149009577unless you are mixing something with coke (ugh), you're left with those minutemaid lemonaides (which works fine with rum or vodka and even tequila), why? I'd rather just have some edibles.
>Critics Consensus: Catapulted by its theme of building self-esteem, Pixar's latest cosmic wonder Elio boasts a fanciful world of original creations to dazzling effect.
Wtf bros, is it good?
>>149048840>"the ultimate slap in the face from Disney"but what else would you expect?
>>149052296Why couldn't they just let the pedos cook? All the movies by the Italian faggot exude concentrated pederastic energy anyway, the least they could do is make them look pretty. Now we're stuck with la creatura californiana and a child molester uncle wearing pansexual flag flipped on its ass.
>>149052863Talent? Just don't give him a motherfucking snout.
>>149013264 It's that easy.
>>149050958>Most disappointing thing was the blooper reel not actually showing up at the endthe blooper reel is from the old Adrian Molina version of the movie, you can tell by the costumes and set design. I suspect it'll show up on the bonus features on the bluray or whatever
>>149013264This nigga looks like a monkey. Why the weird side profiles
>>149054060That's Pixar's thing now, deformed children. I thought the movie was directed by the Luca guy because the characters look so similar but nope. The original director who was kicked off the project actually made Coco, and then Turning Red director and some bitch from calarts took over.
>>149050846The thought โwhat if he was wrongโ is still really scary.
>>149051643Weird gay kid prancing around in an oversized military uniform and going on a space road trip with goofy evil aliens sounds much better than this boring slop. Your ideas are so shit I'm half certain you're some kind of bot or a Pixar employee.
>>149021954>everyone thought the movie was a gay romanceyep, that was its strongest point. Luberto will never not be kino, most people on here were crazy about them as well
It pisses me off how every boring rich Californian gets to adapt their life story, but not the one with an actually interesting trauma. The "gay twink in military school" visual is the only good thing to come our of this shitty derivative movie, and of course it's not in the actual movie, replaced with some lame boy scout camp.
>>149054800>The "gay twink in military school"we were robbed so bad, unironically...I wonder what other dark parts got taken out, OG movie seemed gloomier in tone
>>149051688i wonder where the $300mil estimate came from? was that including marketing budget?
>>149008751 (OP)>>149008771>>149008781>>149008796>>149008808>>149018800>>149019096I heard somewhere the movie has a Carl Sagan-esque vibe, is there something backing up this claim according to you? Does Elio really return to Earth plain and simple or is there a sense of wonder about what is found out there in the ending and throughout the movie? Like, not just cartoony alien adventures, but how aliens could actually change our lives?
>>149054993>Carl Sagan-esque vibeSure, โvibeโ. Whoever said that was trying to act smart. The movie is bookended by audio of Sagan narrating.
>>149009288Maybe donโt make a movie where the entire cast is autistic on the first place?
Glordon is the most adorable thing
>>149055797i'm going to adopt him.
this does mean i have to marry his dad first but im willing and able.
>>149055797ikr, I'd totally buy a plushie of him
I can't wait! This movie better be good.
>>149057034Have fun, bro!
>>149057034Be bored, sis!
Way better than the one they made for Wish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOGXgmv90c4
>Watching children's movies without a girlfriend
Even when I watched a good movie, like How do You Live, it felt wrong to watch it alone.