Thread 149011546

Why weren't they in the Goofy Movie?

>>149011546 (OP)
They were off having their own adventure
Don't read too much into it

>>149011546 (OP)
The world wasn't ready for early teen Pistol.

>>149011546 (OP)
Why couldn't they have at least one scene or mention them by name? More people remember Goofy movie than Goof troop.

it's obvious peg took pistol away in the separation because pj and pete were giving her lecherous looks

>>149011598
Early teen?

>>149011546 (OP)
The movie was about Goofy and Max's relationship. Even Pete and PJ, who were the other main characters got like 5 minutes of screentime, with most of it going to Pete.

>>149011546 (OP)
Peg got Pistol in the divorce

>>149011546 (OP)
As a kid I just thought they got a divorce, I remember being pretty weirded out that they just weren't mentioned at all and that's how I reconciled it.

>>149011546 (OP)
I didn’t even know Goofy had a TV show when I saw this movie.
>t.zoomer

>>149011546 (OP)
Was the movie based on the show? It seemed like it was in its own universe.

>>149012182
same

>>149012889
Unf

>>149011623
>>149012059
with her dad out of her life, shes almost guaranteed to become a slutty whore growing up. Sad for her it happens, sad we dont get to see it.

>>149014613
Wish we could have seen her act slutty towards Max

>>149012936
It has Max and PJ who came from the show. Peg and Pistol missing just sticks out when we see Pete and PJ on vacation but it's just the two of them.

>>149011546 (OP)
I think they're wearing too much clothing.

>>149014613
you weren't paying attention
pete isn't a good dad.

>>149017974
AGREED!

>>149011546 (OP)
Who… the hell… cares

>>149011546 (OP)
>Perfectly good movie exists
>NONONO WHY ISN'T MY COOM BAIT AND UNDERAGE CHILD I WANT TO RAPE NOT IN THE FILM AHHHHHHHHH I NEED MY TRACED CP ART
You aren't a fan of animation

>>149018471
>>149018474
Weird posts de ga arimasu

>>149011546 (OP)
It was a movie about fatherhood, you fool.

>>149011546 (OP)
Because of how the story developed. They were supposedly in one draft, but as it was being rewritten they were removed.

>>149018566
Also about what a horrible father Pete was

>>149018825
What did Pete do to be a horrible father?

I miss them

>>149011546 (OP)
Is goof troop good? Did it come out before or after a goofy movie? I love goofy movie after discovering it several years back but ive never actually seen any of the shows or sequels

>>149018864
>Is Goof Troop good?
It's a show. It won't change your life but it's not bad. The strange thing is Pete's family was a huge part of the show and are all but written out of the movies. I remember not wanting to see the Goof Troop movies because of the Pauly Shore dog being sold as Max's best friend in the trailer and it irritated me because PJ is Max's best friend. So I decided either the movie was canon or the show was canon and I chose the show.

>>149018864
It came before, the show was timed to match Goofy's 60th Anniversary (the pilot even has a nod to the date that Spoonerville was 'built on a reclaimed swamp in 1932').
It's an OK show, but wildly uneven from episode to episode. The pitch was initially supposed to be about the awkwardness of family angle but many more episodes just focused on Pete wanting to throttle Goofy while da Goof was barely aware of it. Part of me thinks Goofy Movie was made BECAUSE the TV show abandoned that concept pretty early on.

>>149018864
Not hard to see why that finale pitch was rejected.

>>149018916
>>149018921
So what youre both saying is the movie is better? Because a goofy movie is legit one of the funniest thing ever to be associated with disney that they didnt buyout and coopt. Its genuinely insane how such a stuffy and cynically saccharine corporate company like the mouse could ever produce something so energetic with one of its core characters to boot.

>>149018944
THEYVE BEEN LAUGHING SINCE I CAN REMEMBER

BUT THEY AINT GONNA LAUGH ANYMORE

>>149018845
Watch the hot tub scene

>>149018972
And? Come on anon there are legitimately horrible fathers. Or is this one of those things where one character has flawed logic and therefore worse than Hitler?

>>149018471
I do.
I see all this 30th anniversary A Goofy Movie apparel at the mall today and I remembered “why weren’t the women from the show in the movies?”

>>149018951
If you're looking for something with strong characterization and heart, then yeah, stick with the movie. Goof Troop was mostly a chaotic sitcom, here's a sample plot:
>Goofy is wallpapering his place and when he goes to get more supplies he gets mixed up with a counterfeiter who looks just like him. The local gangster gives him a bunch of fake bills to 'paper the town' which he interprets to mean 'buy out the wallpaper store'. Max tries tracking him down but encounters the counterfeiter instead and they take him hostage and bring him back to Goofy's place to see what he did with the money, eventually tying him up with their own garden hose. The wallpaper store calls the cops to the house as well once they figure out the money's fake. Max turns on the hose and eventually gets slingshotted around the scene as he unravels, tying up the criminals in the process. Then the police arrive and the reward money is given to the wallpaper store to cover the charges. Fin.

They were the best characters in the show.

>>149019298
Those MILF udders

>>149019298
That's not Goofy

>>149011546 (OP)
Do you have any more image of the daughter more developed?

>>149018916
Pete is the actualy main character of the TV show. It's a family sitcom and he's the one with a complete family to bounce off each other and silly situations. Goofy is the "wacky neighbor" stock type.

Although sometimes the dialouge doesn't match, there are many times the animation in Goof Troop made it look like Peg and Pete were still crazy about each other after 10+ years of marraige so I don't buy the divorce head-canon for the movies.

>>149011546 (OP)
They were doing what Pete and PJ were doing, mother daughter vacation

>>149011546 (OP)
they didn't check the map

>>149011546 (OP)
you know, story board execs aren't as atusticaly driven about canon as you are

>>149020382
Same, I just assumed that her and Pistol had a mother/daughter vacation. Same with the sequel, but it is odd that the two weren't at the going away party at the start of that one.

>>149020382
>>149020577
I mean he acts like way more of a cock in the movie than he even did in the show, which is saying something. Maybe he started taking things too far in the in-between years, or Peg herself changed in some way. Not saying the divorce thing is what happened but I think it's as fair as any other speculation.

>>149011546 (OP)
She caught Pete having gay sex and she divorced him

>>149018960
Damn this art is ancient

>>149020415
Pistol is about eight at the time of the first movie so it won't be as sexy as Anons thinks.

>>149020781
It says 2017.

>>149020382
>Although sometimes the dialouge doesn't match, there are many times the animation in Goof Troop made it look like Peg and Pete were still cra-ACK
>>149019430

>>149021046
That doesn't contradict.

My head-canon is that Goofy is the only man she'd betray Pete for (and it's funnnier if she doesn't get him)

>>149021041
Anon, 2017 was forty year ago.

>>149020617
Pretty sure the comic of goofy movie directly states that they went on their own vacation. The writers on the movie proper had them both on initial draft, but realized that it was better to cut them and focus hard on the contrast between Goofy and Pete's relationship with their respective sons

>>149021193
Did they ever do any art of Pistol, who by right should look a little different? Probably too early for that?

>>149011623
The divorce thing is just a rumor. It's implied in both films Peg & Pistol were away seeing their relatives. Peg was still married to Pete in both films.

>>149012889
HOLY SEXO

>>149012936
The movies take place after the TV series

>>149021218
It's harder to explain why they missed PJ's send-off to college in the second film.

>>149019405
Mommy GF syndrome
MILFs are used up holes. Lolis are better.

>>149021208
Don't think they got to the concept art stage for them since, IIRC from interviews, they had a second draft on the script before even locking in on Bill Farmer to voice Goofy again, to give an idea on how early on Peg had to have been scrapped, I'd guess

>>149021208
See >>149012889

>>149021315
Don't be silly, Anon!

>>149021276
That one was just due to executives, from how I remember reading. They thought that since Peg and Pistol weren't in the first movie, showing them off in the second one would confuse people that only saw A Goofy Movie, rather than being aware of the Goof Troop show too, so Peg and Pistol got axed again for the sake of cohesion between films

call me when there is art of Peg x Pistol.

More lovey-dovey screencaps

Trying to stitch the TV series and movies into one continuity is interesting because it implies that Pete somehow reconciled with Goofy since he's actually pretty buddy-buddy with him in the movies after trying to drive him out of town on more than one occasion in the TV series.

>>149021254
So what happened to Pete's car dealership then? How'd he go from that to working in the photo department?

>>149021565
He lost it due to a wacky situation.

>>149021444
>>149021460
>>149021477
>>149021486
Wholesome cuckold couple

>>149011546 (OP)
The same reason Max's supposed good pal in Bobby Zimuruski doesn't ever show up in the show. Because not every character needs to always be around you autistic fuck.

>>149021608
>good pal
I think the first movie implies they aren't close at all. He's pretty aloof when Max thanks him for helping set up the Powerline stunt in the beginning. He did it for the cheese.

And maybe they went to different middle schools.

>>149021657
The films are stand alone iterations with only a cursory relation to the show, I don't see what's hard to get about that.

>>149021827
Obviously, but that explanation is needed far more with Pete's wife and daughter than with some guy that barely even knows a major character.

The reality they said a few months ago during the 30 year movie celebration
They simply focused on the main part, max and goofy and putting peg and pistol as some of the cartoon cast would take off the focus from the movie's development, they already were facing problems because of Powerline casting til MJ and Prince blessed Tevin, and tevin pulled the biggest troll in the world by 1:1 impersonating MJ's voice

The sequel is just rushed and forgotten, but still gave a good closure to max and goofy's relationship with max getting a nerdy supermodel redhead mother that looks like peg but better, still they put someone resembling roxanne and even put her in house of mouse, which is meant to be before a Extremely Goofy Movie.

>>149021996
No explanation is needed. The films are stand alone. Just saying they went to go visit grandma is perfectly valid but adds nothing.

>>149011546 (OP)
Because the movie wanted to contrast the relationship that Goofy and Max have against the one that Pete and PJ have. At best they would have been nothing cameos in the background making more work for the animators while having no relevancy or at worst would have made certain thematic elements of the film overall hit weaker.

>>149022534
>The sequel is just rushed and forgotten
Which is a shame and it seemed like it was going to be a godo movie about Goofy having a mid-life criss. The extreme sports stuff really gets in the way.

>>149022556
Feel free to argue about it on your own time autist.

>>149022534
We already see Pete and PJ on vacation so including Peg and Pistol in a scene or two wouldn't have been a problem but instead ended up looking weird. They even could've been in the background with no lines. Like you go into a house and one door is missing a doorknob. It's a minor thing and yet it sticks out in your mind and you wonder why it's missing.

>>149022577
What the do you think this thread is?

>>149022567
All direct to dvd/vhs sequels were plagued with problems or were rushed to get easy money, there is a reason people hates them.

>>149022534
>still they put someone resembling roxanne
Same VA too because it WAS meant to be Roxanne, but they couldn't get her hair to work right so they made her a different character.

>>149021565
Pete changes jobs as much as Mickey

>>149021570
That's every other week, and yet he always bounces back well enough.

>>149018861
Why?

>>149023660
Why not?

>>149024821
>>149023660
>>149018861
Why would she want all the neighbors to see her mom's pussy?

I really do wish the movie had at least a throwaway line about them being on vacation or something. I know people probably don't get it now but Peg and Pistol were really major characters in the original series and their absence in the movie felt weird. There's a reason it spawned so many theories over the years.

>>149024832
Cause she's a brat

I’ve been rewatching Goof Troop, and I’ve been noticing how unstable Peg is.

>>149021147
> the power cuck Pete pitch was Pegs not Pete’s idea

>>149024870
Yeah I really don't get why they couldn't have just had Pete say "Your mother and sister are on vacation so it's just the two of us" to PJ early in the movie.

>>149024870
>>149025724
Because of members of the audience that aren't familar with Goof Troop. The reference to characters who haven't appeared in the film (and won't appear later) is confusing. It does no good for the film at all. Maintaining a solid continuity with the TV series just isn't important.

>>149025775
Anon I don't think a single throwaway line would confuse audiences and Goof Troop was a super popular cartoon, so it'd at least give an answer to fans. This seems like backwards-looking reasoning to justify things post-facto.

>>149020617
>I mean he acts like way more of a cock in the movie
I agree that was mostly him wanting to put Max down, but I figured there was at least a part there that wanted to help Goofy out. Despite it all, Pete does sometime look out for the guy, like when mobsters are threatening them in the show.

>>149025775
Referencing characters that won't appear isn't as confusing as omitting them. And movies do throwaway lines mentioning a missing character.

>>149025775
This is executive logic that made them keep characters out of the limelight in Spongebob and had them replace Wolfcastle with Schwarzenegger in the Simpsons. The movie doesn't really have that executive meddling smell to it, I think they just forgot to put a line in addressing it.

>>149025847
>>149025874
You're seeing the movie as "the Goof Troop movie". It's not. It's just using the same idea (Goofy as a father) and re-using the work the TV series already did with that idea (name, character design cues of son character). The relantionship between Goofy and Max isn't even important in the TV series; it's a sitcom and Pete is more prominent in most plots.

At first, my theory was Pete ate them. But now I think those gay pedophile bagels shut them up like pic related and they died of suffocation/

>>149021291
Honestly, if someone showed me this early design for Roxanne and told me it was supposed to be Pistol, I'd probably believe them.

>>149025930
Yeah but everyone was going to see it like that because it's using characters from the series. That's kind of how these things work, especially when the series was massively popular. Note that most responses in this thread addressing the OP talk about their own ideas they had as a kid.

>>149025930
It's using characters that only appeared in the show. It makes sense to assume that and if there's anything different or missing then of course people are going to wonder. You can be dismissive of it but for people that know of the show, and a lot of people know of the show and characters, it sticks out and causes them to wonder. IIRC House of Mouse also has Peg and Pistol missing but I don't know if PJ showed up in that show.

>>149025930
Sure but also like, anyone familiar with the show would see Max and PJ and the dynamic between Pete and Goofy and immediately think it had something to do with the show. The show wasn't exactly obscure, it was a flagship of one of the most popular cartoon blocks of its era.

>>149025969
Looks younger than 14, which is a plausible age for her and Max in the final film.

>>149025969
She looks prettier here than in the final movie

Peg loves gangbangs so much she's not a town bike, she's a town bus

>>149012936
It was based on the TV show but they fired everyone who worked on the TV show and hired a guy who had only ever done PA work on movies before so he didn't really care about any of the characters from the show or appealing to the fans of it. Even though it ended up working out the entire plot of the Goofy movie was actually him trying to specifically do something completely different and unrelated to the series. Originally it was just supposed to be like a TV movie for the series where they were all the same age and with the same cast of characters but the director managed to talk Jeffrey Katzenberger into letting him age all of the characters up and do something completely different.

>>149018446
It doesn't matter as much because Pete is an overbearing Father which wouldn't prevented her from becoming too slutty

>>149011598
In Goof Troop Max states he's: "11 and a half years old." and PJ is the same age as him which means he's also 11. Pistol is in Kindergarten so she's between 4 1/2 to 6 years old depending on how her Kindergarten works.

In A Goofy Movie it's stated that Max is 14, which means PJ is also 14 and Pistol would be 7 and a half to 9 years old and in an Extremely Goofy Movie Max and PJ are 18 or 19 years old which means that Pistol would be 11 and a half to 13 years old.

11 and a half would've actually been cute because then she would've been the same age as Max and PJ in the original series and they could've maybe teased a spin off.

>>149017974
Do you think they take baths like cats do?>>149018474
This mindset is anti human

>>149026526
I thought I remembered Pistol declaring herself "five and a half" but I couldn't say when she says it.

>>149018951
Definitely different vibes. I haven't rewatched the show in years but as a kid who would catch episodes of it randomly during Summer Vacation as a kid I found it extremely cozy

>>149018989
It's: "My Dad made me turn off the Xbox and hangout with my family sometimes when I was a kid which means I was horribly abused."

>>149020577
It would make sense. Even though of families go camping together it's also very common for a Dad to take his Son for some "Father Son bonding time" and "Teach him to be a Man." So they were probably just at home.

It was a male focused movie about father-son relationships and coming of age for young men, women/girls are not needed.

>>149021565
He refused to sell automobiles that weren't made in America.

>>149021147
Remember Goofy was on the cheerleading team. He fucked hard, the whole team except Pet. So Peg never got the chance because she was seeing Pete at the time

>>149026665
I LOVE the chad Goofy meme.

>>149026676
Goofy is tall and thin, he has a fucking huge cock

>>149025930
Max and P.J. were original characters made for Goof Troop. They've been retroactively linked to one off characters from the 40's where Goofy and Pete were shown having a kid but those characters had different names, designs, and personalities.

>>149014613
Girls with dads like Pete become the biggest sluts known to human civilization.

>>149026676
I bet he fucks Minnie and Daisy too

>>149026546
That makes sense. When I was a kid you had to turn 5 by the end of the first month of kindergarten or you had to wait until next year to enroll, and there were only 1 or 2 kids that were 6 so being 5 is the most likely and considering they liked to use the "and a half" trope you're probably remembering correctly.

So that means Pistol would be 8 1/2 years old in A Goofy Movie and 12 1/2 in An Extremely Goofy Movie.

>>149026676
It's hardly even a meme, he's
>Confident
>Funny
>Extremely handy
>Has tons of interests and hobbies
>Goes out of his way to be a good father
>Tall
>Thin
>Knows how to work every moment he's in
>Knows how to dance
>Owns a home and apparently has a great source of income given how often it gets damaged

>>149026775
>has a great source of income given how often it gets damaged
Dunno what his job was in GT, but in Extremely we see he's a line worker at a toy factory. Pay must have been real dam good. Mind you, Goofy at that point didn't even go to college.

>>149026805
Maybe he had some kind of crazy inheritance and just works to take up his time. He hardly seems financially insecure.

>>149025444
Had a downstairs neighbor that acted practically identical to this scene: >>149021147. Sweetness and light punctuated by sudden KYLE PUT YOUR PANTS BACK ON outburst then back to sweet without missing a beat.

>>149011546 (OP)
>>149011578
adventures in oyakodon

Higher-effort renditions of Goofy and Peg in high school.

>>149027836
>>149027882
I don't know why Goofy is a nerd here; it doesn't really suit him.

>>149027893
Peg, is in fact, a nickname for Margaret.

>>149027893
Cute

>>149027947
Cause he's a goof

>>149027947
>Peg, is in fact, a nickname for Margaret.
so is Daisy

>>149026676
That blond skater is cute

Imagine a modern series where Peg starts an OnlyFans, where Pete unsuspectingly becomes her top patron, thinking he's cheating on her.

>>149026665
"Except" my ass. She knows first hand how hard Goofy fucked. But he was a guy she could have fun with and Pete actually tried for once in his goddamn life. And at least then, she loved him for it. And because she loved him she never told him how much better Goofy was in the sack. But she never forgot.

I need Dbaru to draw more Pistol and I need it NOW

>>149030276
would

>>149021218
>It's implied in both films Peg & Pistol were away seeing their relatives.
where in the films?

>>149018474
Sasuga Twitter-san

>>149027882
>That Goofy bulge
Based gigachad Goofy

>>149011546 (OP)
Because the point of the Goofy Movie was to show off Pete's sizzling hot body.

>>149027836
Wasn’t the backstory established in the first Good Troop episode that Peg was the star cheerleader, Pete was the star quarterback football player and Goofy was the only male on the cheerleader squad.

>>149018471
autists do

>>149011546 (OP)
>Why weren't they in the Goofy Movie?
Kevin Lima himself said that he wanted to introduce Peg and Pistol in that film and they would have been different, but there was an issue with the time constraints of the animated film, so they focused more on the relationships
between Max and Goofy and Pete and his son Pete Jr. There just wasn't time to do both Peg and Pistol and have them on screen, but that doesn't mean they didn't know about them.

>>149012936
Based on the Goof Troop series, and you have Max and P.J. in there, but it felt like a separate universe there, especially the second Goofy movie.

>>149031423
Finish the fucking Peg comic Amugea

>>149020781
Its only 8 years old

>>149020372
I thought the main character was Max. Although now that you mention it, they really did think they could subvert the trope and make the wacky next door neighbors the mains and turn the grounded family into the supports.