Thread 149018656

This is the full list of Disney content in the 2020s that has become big enough to become a permanent reused IP of its own:
>Encanto
That's it. Arguably Owl House had a chance but it'll never get used again. Everything else failed or is reusing existing IP. And there are quite a bit over the last 10 years, but they are heavily biased towards the front end o (the last one before Encanto was Coco in 2017). When every decade would have had many by now become a franchise.
What went wrong and how bad is this for Disney? They can reuse what exists but they need new stuff to form so that generational disinterest doesn't for or they are overused, see how Marvel and Star Wars is declining hard due to overuse.

>>149018656 (OP)
Encanto is and forever will be a shitty movie about excusing abusive family members. That is shit. And no it's not really popular or marketable given how MOST of the characters are ugly.

And the big reason companies struggle at making new things is because of the culture. You have a decadent rotting culture of shit that has raised Modern Entertainers and all they know how to make is MORE shit. You train these people to be indoctrinated Leftists who believe in Feminism, Diversity, Homosexuality, etc and that's all they will make.

Entertainment is always derived from the culture and if your culture is shit then you get shit. And nothing will change until every single falsehood poisoning the west has been eradicated starting with the Jews who are funding the DEATH of white nations.

>>149018663
I admire your dedication

>>149018656 (OP)
Flawed premise. Disney was never good at making new IPs. Their renaissance era is like 90% adaptations of fairy tales and myths for a reason.

>>149019103
This. It's easy to forget that Disney didn't become as powerful as they are due to original ideas but rather their groundbreaking EXECUTION of beloved literary classics. Now in the 2020s, WDAS is probably the least ambitious of the mainstream U.S. animation studios, with many agreeing that their most recent efforts tend to be hella generic. I love Encanto, but even that falls into some familiar trappings. Still, it's insane how slow Disney's been at doing more with their one success so far this decade.

>>149018656 (OP)

>Why is Disney bad at making new IPs now

Kiff says otherwise

>>149019103
You can probably count the amount of successful original disney IPs animated or otherwise on one hand. People forget the reason they started monopolizing shit like marvel, it was because in the mid 2000s and early 2010s they couldn't compete, even their adaptations like john carter and the lone ranger were huge flops, so they bought out the competition instead.

>>149018656 (OP)
They make things for propaganda rather than for art.

>>149018663
You're getting faster again. Color me impressed.

>>149018663
You're getting faster again. Color me impressed.

>>149019211
Why isn't Season 2 on Disney+ yet?

>>149019391
Sex

Disney has always gone through boom and bust cycles. When Disney was on a hot streak they released a film every year or every other year, with several well received films in a row. This was the studio in its initial run in the 30s and early 40s, and then again in the 1950s. But then you have the 60s, 70s, and most of the 80s. A very long period where Disney's out put changed to movies every 3 or 4 years, and the movies were usually not nearly as successful and lacked cultural impact. Animation fans might look back on some of these offerings with fondness, like Oliver and Company, Black Caldron, or Aristocats, but these films were not very successful in their day and wound up as duds in terms of starting lucrative IPs.

It was only with Little Mermaid in 1989 that the long dark age of Disney ended and a new brilliant age began, at least until the 00s, when it they slipped into a rut of mediocrity once more. If not for Frozen in 2010 Disney would've been in a rough spot. Frozen wasn't the stat of a new hot streak or golden age, it was an anomalous success, but the magnitude of Frozen's success was such that it easily carried the company through the next 15 years of mostly mediocre movies.

>>149018656 (OP)
>Encanto
What would they have called it with classic naming conventions?

>>149021922
Lets Pretend That Colombia's Not Shit.

>>149019279
Not counting Pixar since them alone easily breaks that number
1. Mickey Universe (and this can be split up into so many successful individual IPs on its own)
2. Stitch
3. Frozen (though inspired by Snow Queen it isn't Snow Queen remotely)
4. Lion King
5. Nightmare Before Christmas
Not counting their television shows as well, or live action

>>149019279
>john carter and the lone ranger were huge flops

Lets be honest no one cared about those properties in generations. Older stuff like Greek Mythology has remained popular. So Lone Ranger and John Carter were never very good.

>>149021922
The Miracle House?
maybe...
The Home of Miracle..?

SEVEN FOOT FRAME

RATS ALONG HIS BACK

>>149018656 (OP)
WHERE IS ENCANTO 2

WHERE IS IT

>>149024131
If John Leguizamo (VA for Bruno) is telling the truth based off of this article, then in a few years... probably
https://people.com/john-leguizamo-teases-possible-encanto-sequel-11700219?taid=67db53f2ea562000016a0ebe&utm_campaign=peoplemagazine&utm_content=new&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com

>>149019374
So true brother

>>149022732
"The House of Miracles" definitely sounds like an old-school movie title.

>>149018656 (OP)
Where is deletefag

>>149021922
Now this is just depressing...

>>149018656 (OP)
Everyone is bad at it right now. It's not just Disney.

>>149018656 (OP)
Sofia the first is getting another season called Royal Academy. It might be good!
But OP is right, DisneyCorp has lost the knack they used to have. They should go back to following the vision, and not the focus group.
>Execute Kathleen Kennedy. Bring back Star Wars.

>>149025723
Sony's doing pretty well for themselves. DreamWorks, too, for that matter.

>>149018656 (OP)
They told all the white male boomers who lived and breathed their cartoon maker jobs to hit the bricks so they could hire cheap brown women who can’t steer the ship

>>149020901
Snow White and Dumbo were the only unqualified successes during Disney's Golden Age. Bambi made a small profit but Fantasia and Pinocchio took multiple rereleases to become the hits they are today. Alice in Wonderland and Sleeping Beauty bombed. Aristocrats was a massive success, Oliver and Company also a success but a smaller one. The Black Cauldron is actually the only bomb during Disney's "Dark Age." Disney also didn't push for one film a year until '89 with the success of The Little Mermaid. Very few Disney films have ever started a lucrative IP franchise if you're talking about anything other than merchandise.

>>149018663
leche.

>>149025679
Not nearly as depressing as THIS

>>149024597
>one of the coolest and most ambitious things Pixar's done in a while
>guaranteed to stay ignored because no one goes on Disney+ to watch cartoons (unless it's an oldie they're nostalgic for)
it isn't fair..