Why was this so bad

>>149031538 (OP)
Because you're incapable of finding enjoyment in anything.

It wasn't terrible, just wet bread, a void. A kid would probably find it entertaining enough.

Modern TMNT has suffered from flanderization for too long. Donnie is skinny and wears glasses because he is nerd and love tech.

>>149031627
At least he's no longer a simp.

>>149031632
And he is still a weakling, like that stupid IDW Donnie who doesn't have the gut to seek revenge on B&R.

>the Seth Rogen version
Anon...
Turn your attention to that version's April, then ask again...

I didn't think it was bad at all, it just had rough source material to launch from.
That said I like the animation a lot and thought the characters felt a lot more grounded and affable than the movie.

>>149031787
Son...

>>149031538 (OP)
>individual anthology series where it's majority the turtles talking about their solo adventures
Dead on arrival. I just wanted a normal TMNT series without that ass story structure.
I liked the art at least.

I didn't like the movie but this was good.
Except Michaelangelo's voice actor. Bless this kid but it sounds like he's struggling to deliver basic lines, and it really doesn't work with the one who's supposed to be witty and charismatic.

>>149031697
>weakling
He was the strongest with the longest reach in the NES game. Raph was the shittiest. Nobody liked him.

>>149031538 (OP)
Still better than the sudo anime slop IMO

We got Lee the Eel from it, so I’m happy.

>>149032143
I was very happy with how cute her characterization was.

>>149031538 (OP)
The intro sequences and non action sequences were done by different teams or outsourced to cheaper, budget studios doing rigged puppet animation, but everything between that was actually really good. The second half with the Splinter narration scenes are fucking weird though. Splinter moves like he's been animated by Don Bluth, while everyone else moves like a cardboard cutout being wobbled around.

>>149032190
That explains how this jumped from looking like a Canadian flash cartoon, to looking like something out of Monkie Kid at the drop of a hat.

>>149031830
The kid who voices him seems like he can talk just fine in interviews, but it seems like they're telling him to put on that strained, awkward cadence on purpose and it's makes him the worst character to watch.

>>149031538 (OP)
>Seth Rogan.
No thanks I'll just stick to the 80s and 03 and 2012 ones, I'd rather watch the Next Mutation with it's crazy cartoony sound effects and nonsensical writing than something from Seth Rogan.

>>149031538 (OP)
Did anyone even watch it?

>>149032201
If it's not the kids fault then I don't feel as bad about saying this:
This version of Mikey sounds mentally slow. He annunciates like he's walking on eggshells and seems way more subdued when expressing emotion compared to the other three. Is he supposed to be on the spectrum or something?

>>149032208
He's actually got nothing to do with the cartoon. Didn't even show up to voice Bebop. Didn't have any say on the script. Him and all of his faggy little friends that he keeps giving work to gave themselves a single "executive producer" credit on episode 1 and nothing else.

>>149031538 (OP)
Because instead of making something that is cool, they feel like Turtles need to be weird and lame children.

>>149032255
That's even worse.
That just means he just saw the franchise as a check.

>>149032275
...Were you under the impression that he didn't before?

>>149032281
Well I know that.
But it's crazy how after the movie he just dumped it off on someone else, truly a California moment.

>>149031894
Shut up retard

Modern TMNT adaptations have some weird obsession with over-emphasizing the "Teenage" part of the equation, so the Turtles end up being obnoxious zoomers instead of likable fun characters.
>>149031831
I had a Raph toy as a kid so I like Raph.

>>149032289
You think he actually knows anything about producing, writing, or directing cartoons? There's a reason why he hired his usual team of talentless jew faggots to write, direct, and produce every one of his movies. And those guys fucked up Mutant Mayhem so badly that they had to rush and slap together the version we got from whatever functional material they had left. They okay'd and locked in a version of the movie no one ever saw where Superfly was Baxter Stockman, and then changed that a dozen more times before they were forced to crunch and force themselves to shit out a finished movie into theaters.

>>149031894
>sudo
Smartest TMNT fan

>>149031538 (OP)
I want to fuck those mutant turtles.

The pacing was absolutely atrocious, you could slash the episodes in half and lose nothing, while gaining a much more watchable show

Also the writing and turtles voiceover was ass, but the rest of the characters VA's did a great job, so I can't even recommend watching it dubbed in japanese or something to get over it

>>149031538 (OP)
Because it is made for Zoomers. And Zoomers have shit taste.

>>149034079
*Millennials pretending to be zoomers.
Fixed it.

>>149033511
Pacing wasn't the problem. There's not a single episode that drags or wastes time. The problem is that the framing device is needlessly confusing and obtuse. It wants to tell a story, but doesn't want to commit to any of those stories being "real" so by the end it's not clear if anything actually happened, which is such a dumb way for a TMNT show to be.

>>149034079
>>149034085
Neither zoomers nor millennials watched it, because no one fucking knew it existed, even after it got moved to Netflix out of desperation.

>>149031538 (OP)
Better than rise turtles though

>>149032455
>I had a Raph toy as a kid so I like Raph
I meant specifically to play as in the NES game. He sucked. Hard.

>>149031538 (OP)
>Why was this so bad
Irony poisoning
What made TMNT work was that 2 broke nobodies took a concept that seemed silly and made it cool and interesting. But what the IP became is a corporate cash cow handed over to whatever out of touch LA millionaire can pitch a crappy hottake on the series. It's the difference between Eastman and Laird making the Last Ronin and Rogen wanting the turtles to go to highschool and sound like cringey prepubescent spazzes.

>>149035349
TMNT always had elements of parody of Frank Miller. Stuff like Hand = Foot, turtles sharing the origin with Daredevil, etc.
Thing is, Laird and had enough restraint to not be obnoxious about it. It's funny to notice such things, but it's not forced. Modern writers would just run a joke like that into the ground until it's just annoying because how else can you tell something is a joke if it's not rubbed into your face repeatedly?

>>149035575
*Laird and Eastman
Sorry for Eastman erasure, lmao. Kinda spaced out for a second.

>>149031538 (OP)
I thought the fights were cool at least

>>149031538 (OP)
The turtles were supposed to be dark and gritty
but except the 2003 series, all the other iterations failed. In turtles forever we saw that the Eastman-Laird universe was the fundamental one while all the others were pale imitations. Maybe we need a more grounded,
R-Rated animated series with the turtles. Like G.I.Joe resolute or something...

>>149031819
You didnt like teenage mutant ninja turtles (2003)?

Don's vision better improve so he stops wearing the glasses. Also given they won't start voice recording for awhile, hopefully Don's VA finally goes through puberty and his voice cracks because he still sounds too young. Granted in the Tales cartoon his voice is a bit better than the movie, so hopefully...he ages a b it in real life.

>>149032208
>and 2012 ones
2012 fucking sucks. CGI was a mistake. Human-on-turtle romances were a mistake.

>>149031538 (OP)
Because you're brown, underage and cannot appreciate quality things. You can only appreciate the Donald Trump & Elon Musk TV Show.

>>149036802
It wasn't all bad anon, however the second cross over the 2012 one did was kinda Turtles Forevery in the end for some reason. It was nice hearing Shredder and Krang bicker amongst each other.

>>149031538 (OP)
Made according to garbage industry philosophies
>>149031582
Your joy in life should not come from Hollywood

>>149036573
>but except the 2003 series, all the other iterations failed.
2003 is failed too. 2003 turtles can't kill and at least 2012 allow the turtles kill Shredder

Remind you that some TMNT comic artist did draw some TCEST art.

Modern TMNT is way too care about teenage elements, worse is that their "teenage" are just some modern garbage from a netflix show.

>>149031538 (OP)
I can't believe that these shitty turtles are the ones in Sonic Racing.

At least when they added the turtles to Fortnite they had the creativity to use Original Turtles. They went with shitty designs for Sonic Racing. Awful idea.

>>149031771
i really like that cover. and not because it looks like a pride flag, i just think rainbows are cool.

>>149031787
The concept for Seth Rogen is simply filled with way too many flaws...

Splinter is not a real martial artist to the point he makes Bay Splinter look skilled and disciplined.

April is disgusting looking and she's race swapped yet again.

Bishop is now an ugly old hag woman who is not white.

And I fear what else they'll do to other characters like Mona Lisa. And in general the turtle's motivation is that they want to go to school and be normal is simply stupid. No kid who has ever watched any fantastical series has gone "What if we do our homework and be boring and normal?" This is shit. No one is watching entertainment media for this boring bullshit. I don't understand why Seth Rogen is even getting a sequel when the box office of Mutant Mayhem is notably bad.

>>149036802
Blame Laird and Eastman since they had objections to natural female turtles existing. And now this problem has led to a lot of bullshit. If i were the executive in charge I would allow normal female turtles to exist as mutants in TMNT and if Laird says anything out of spite I would take away his privilege to make new Mirage comics not that he's doing anything but again its out of spite.

>>149031538 (OP)
I like the movie's Raph. He's the kind of beefy FITE ME blood paladin I wish'd I'd been when I was a teenager. Being a meek little (argument-prone) nerd sucked.

>>149031538 (OP)
I actually watched the first episode of Tales yesterday online. I wasn't digging it. And it further reminded me why I don't like the turtles in this universe. They're incompetent losers who don't seem to have much fighting experience. Yeah they're teens but they're also ninjas. These turtles are just pathetic cowards who luck out.

>>149039584
Did we get any news about the Mutant Mayhem sequel at Annecy? I've grown tired of this radio silence

TURTLE POWER

Maybe 2003 did the Turtles so well, that every other version feels like they have to stand out and make drastic changes. All so they don't feel like they're retreading old ground.

>>149041495
Pretty much, 2003 had some struggles at the end [IMHO Fast Forward was actually reasonably solid, just truncated, not any more "Out there" than demon ninja god battles or interdimensional fighting tournaments or space dinosaur invasions, and it's Back to the Sewer that was the hard downturn, but not everyone is gonna agree with that and that's fair.] but it primarily just did TMNT as a concept maybe not perfectly, but probably as high quality and substantially as could ever really be hoped for realistically before finishing off with Turtles Forever as a great send off and I don't think anyone has actually known what the fuck to do after that. 2012 coasted by mainly via comparison by being just kinda "Adequate" since it was the 2010s when cartoons just started fucking dying and Nick was pretty far into scrounging for decent shows even before that happened. Rise was just dogshit, the bay films were just kinda pointless [honestly not even actually *terrible* just...pointless.], Mutant Mayhem was slop as well, IDW was, well, fucking IDW, Tales is more slop, etc.

2003 just kinda gave the complete package and did almost everything there was to do with a fairly solid take on TMNT for like 150+ episodes and a capstone movie and it's just kinda a thing where the only logical thing to do would be "Do 2003 again but with more polish and a bigger budget, learning from its missteps" but shows don't even get 30 fucking episodes anymore because of how the industry has fucked itself to death, so you're at a disadvantage just due to not having as much time and space to work with narratively even before you account for how basic skillsets have fucking died and how almost every franchise writing base is infested with fags who only want to regurgitate whatever their series equivalent of Green with Evil or God Loves, Man Kills is without any of the surrounding "le filler" material that made those work in between getting asspats on twitter.

>>149031830
Yeah, I don't get what they're doing with Mikey at all. They keep saying he's the improv/jokes guy but all he does is complain. The show reminded me their Raph is really good though.

>>149036752
You can already hear his post-puberty voice in one of the episode recap voice overs.

>>149041495
>Maybe 2003 did the Turtles so well

This is not true. Doing Mirage but the turtles aren't allowed to kill any of the villains is terrible. Don't get edgy if you're not going to commit. This is the same reason 2003 AND IDW are so awful.

So tired of people complimenting that series. The only interesting thing in 2003 was Leonardo recognizing "Hey wait a minute the villains are always winning against us! I want to win!" And the shitty writing presents this as Leo being wrong. This is shit writing. Every single major villain in this series is never really defeated, all of them lose the battle but win the war. The turtles are incompetent.

>>149034085
>*Millennials pretending to be zoomers.
Nobody does that, all these people are Gen X

>>149041617
>The Turtles can't kill villain because it's a kid show.
>SAINW episodes is a stupid misery porn.
>Character development like Leo is wasted
No.

>>149032244
He did way better in the video game.

https://www.ign.com/articles/tmnt-the-last-ronin-ii-ends-in-major-tragedy-for-the-new-turtles
Without Michaelangelo it is not The Last Ronin. A 4th mini? Its already milked dry, I would have argued at least after The Lost Years. IDW's deserate crutch to stay alive is what a 4th Last Ronin mini is.

This is like how The Sequel trilogy craps all over The Originial trilogy. Dont try to tell me ' let the past die, kill it if you have to' or 'somehow Shredder has returned'.

>>149031538 (OP)
It was fine. Good even.

>>149031538 (OP)
So, Raphael permanently has a du-rag huh...

>>149042260
Nothing could be worse than Donnie wearing glasses.

>>149042685
From now on Donnie wears the du-rag and Raph gets the glasses

With all the complaints and calling it the worst, it makes me wonder how many have seen The Next Mutation series.

>>149042822
Next Mutation is a live action series. A bad one. But its in a category of its own.

On the other hand we've had multiple bad cartoon series for TMNT. And depending on who you ask every single series can be considered heavily flawed.

I thought the robots and animation was really cool.
But I thought the multiple concurrent perspectives felt like a needlessly advanced narrative tool for a story with no real twists or turns, and it just meant the brothers spent too much time apart.
It reminded me of Sonic Prime's opening episodes being chopped up into randomly placed chronological events to no real benefit to the story. Just tell it straight if you don't have a good reason to do this extra shit.
That said it wasn't as bad as Sonic Prime, hell I wouldn't say it was bad at all.

>>149031538 (OP)
Will Risefags continue to seethe into obscurity for a whole decade...

>>149040228
... WELL??