Sorry Tim and Steph fans.
There’s a better dynamic duo coming out. And they’re leaving Gotham.
New mature title coming from DC.
https://bleedingcool.com/comics/the-end-of-the-bat-family-with-red-hood-1-a-mature-readers-ongoing/

>>149043886 (OP)
It's been a while since I read Grayson, but is Huntress just full on black now?

>>149043891
Also, christ they just keep giving Red Hood shitter and shitter costumes for no reason.

>>149043891
She’s tanned Sicilian American.

Tim fans on suicide watch

>>149043886 (OP)
I miss my rag-tag team of dumbasses

Finally DC gives Jason and Helena their own city that’s not Gotham.

>>149043886 (OP)
bring back Jason and Artemis I'm not playing around

>>149043886 (OP)
My boy is finally back!!

And kek at team up considering her fans and how hard they were triggered by Jason.

>>149043912
>>149043923
The government has ban Amazons from the United States.
That’s what the current Wonder Woman ongoing is all about.

>>149043922
>take two Gotham-centric characters out of Gotham
>YEAH THIS WILL HELP THEM!
You people are as dumb as the Red Hood subreddit.

>>149043940
I don't read Tom King trash so I didn't know, thanks for the heads-up. any reason why the ban happened?

>>149043886 (OP)
I actually wondered if DC was giving up on Jason, but it's nice to see him back. The book actually seem promising.

>>149043944
No you see it’s so much better if they get to live in a city that’s like Gotham but worse and has none of the interesting and cool villains and none of the historically interesting elements.
Maybe they can kill a few nameless mafiosos to show they mean business!

>>149043968
They’ve only given up on Tim and Steph

>>149043960
Something something, muh immigration bad, yknow, your standard anti-trump allegory stuff

>>149043944
>>149043973
Why are you so triggered? I don't mind Gotham, but Jason needs to step away from Batman and do his own thing away from him because their relationship is just going in circles.

>>149043995
>anti-trump allegory stuff
damn King is actually writing kino for once? maybe I'll check out his WW run after all

>>149043886 (OP)
Writer and artist?

>>149043886 (OP)
I don't like that cover art.

>>149044008
>but Jason needs to step away from Batman and do his own thing away from him because their relationship is just going in circles.
Then how about they actually fix the issue after two decades? This is just postponing it. All it takes is an issue dedicated to Bruce and Jason talking it out and having one another realize they messed up. Readers love to see the human side of characters.

>>149043886 (OP)
>>149044017
Gretchen Felker-Martin a fat “woman” who looks like a transsexual and has never made a comic before.

Jeff spokes who actually seems like a solid artist.

>>149044057
>Gretchen Felker-Martin a fat “woman” who looks like a transsexual and has never made a comic before.
Wikipedia confirms that's a real tranny.

>>149043886 (OP)
>Gretchen Felker-Martin
I’m off to /a/.

>>149044035
because they'll never fix it. the drama regarding their different methodologies fuels their storylines and it'll never reach a conclusion because that's an editorial commitment. even if they do, it won't be long before they butt heads again

I wish my favorite characters got the infinite amount of chances at an ongoing that Red Hood does

>>149044008
Because modern DC sucks at making interesting new cities.

>>149044035
Because it would mean retiring Jason. They relationship can't be fixed for good because it would mean fixing Jason and giving up on Red Hood.

>>149044090
Who?
Tim and Steph?

>>149044090
Infinite? He literally only got the Outlaws ongoing. This actually his first solo ongoing ever.

That Huntress costume sucks balls and isn't even the right color

>>149044123
>This actually his first solo ongoing ever.
And it’s going to be shit.

>>149043907
Considering the writer is a dude with a nose ring who thinks he’s a woman? Tim and steph fags dodged a bullet. Especially because he would have made Tim super gay.

>>149044123
>ongoing
Lol mighty optimistic of you to think it isn’t a stealth mini
>solo
And yet he’s sharing the cover to the very first issue with a character he barely interacts with

>>149044104
>They relationship can't be fixed for good because it would mean fixing Jason and giving up on Red Hood.
Who says Jason would ever want to give up protecting the innocent as Red Hood?

>>149044090
Jason was dead for twenty years and came back to put up with more batfaggotry. Can your fave do that?
>being stuck in as statut quo that is about beating the same dead horse
>a chance
Debatable and in this case it's very much wait and see.

>>149044008
>>149043922
Gretchen, you will never be a woman.

BatFamily partnerships:
Batman/Damian Robin
Cass/Steph
Nightwing/Babs
Red Hood / Huntress
Batwoman/Batwing

Lonely guys:
Tim Drake
Azrael
Signal
Bluebird
Flamebird

>>149043886 (OP)
>Gretchen Felker-Martin
Didn't they write that Red Hood Beast World story that people liked

>>149044157
I’m not Gretchen, I’m the DukeSteph anon.

Kek, at the meltdown. Can't tell if it's that Lobdell fanboy, Dick fanboy or Tim fanboy.

>>149044171
You're the phonecuck poster.

>>149044057
>>149044072
>Felker-Martin's science fiction horror novel Manhunt was published on February 22, 2022, in the U.S. by Tor Nightfire.[6] Manhunt appeared on best-of-year lists in multiple publications, including appearing at #1 in Vulture's list of "The Best Books of 2022".Roxane Gay selected it as one of the "25 Most Influential Works of Postwar Queer Literature", writing, "This is the kind of book that queer writers have been desperate to write forever and are rarely given the opportunity to."The Los Angeles Review of Books wrote, "Felker-Martin's horror novel cunningly weaves trans determinism, war, and trauma together in an effort to locate joy, empathy, and pleasure in a world on fire."In October 2024, Lilly Wachowski announced that she is adapting Manhunt into a TV series with Felker-Martin.

So, either Jason will start sucking cock or will fellate nonstop trannies

Goddamn monkey paw

>>149044170
>they
You mean he

>Jason gets sloppy seconds again
You cant even make it a joke lol

>>149043886 (OP)
>-a-mature-readers-ongoing
Doubts.jpg

>>149044171
You will never be black and your mother hates you, you cuck

>Jason was meant to have fucked Starfire in new 52 before Lobdell backed down due to criticisms of her character
>DC tried pushing Jason and Babs in Eteral and Three Jokers
>now they're trying Jason/Helena

Why do writers love giving Jason Dick's sloppy seconds?

>>149044153
So he's only Red Hood in name, not in what he does? Then what’s the point?

From the article:
>"Sweat, blood, and powder burns. Broken bones and mind control. A city rotted from the inside out. Jason's going through hell on the hunt for an enigmatic telepath,
>the city of New Angelique — a corrupt city where he might be able to put down roots, if not for two problems: firstly, there’s a serial killer to there targeting cops that needs to be dealt with. And secondly, he’s not the only former Gotham citizen in the city
>highlights the core aspects of Jason’s character—his difficulties with personal connections, his badass training, his brooding hotness, and his violent approach to heroism. Which means he’ll be killing people—a lot. Let me repeat myself: this is the story Jason Todd fans have been waiting for.”
Nothing I'm hyped for but look like making noise payed up for some. Rest to see if it's going to be trash or not.

>>149043886 (OP)
>Red Hood is the in-continuity story Jason Todd fans have been waiting for. It delivers high-stakes action, a gripping mystery, and raw, unapologetic storytelling. Every element of the book highlights the core aspects of Jason's character—his difficulties with personal connections, his badass training, his brooding hotness, and his violent approach to heroism. Which means he'll be killing people—a lot. Let me repeat myself: this is the story Jason Todd fans have been waiting for." –
It actually sounds good... How are they going to fuck it up?

>>149043886 (OP)
Helena looks way too young

>>149044199
That’s funny because I’m literally black.

>>149044254
By putting a tranny as writer

>>149044258
Good.
Nice and tight.

>>149044254
Helena being out of character and fucking Jason.

>>149044277
But that’s a good thing.

>>149043886 (OP)
Another bad jason design to add to the list

>>149044238
>So he's only Red Hood in name, not in what he does? Then what’s the point?
Red Hood is just a mask, Jason is the man behind it. The last thing he'd ever want is to let the mask take over like it did to Bruce.

>>149044263
That makes it shitty self inserting fag. You're not looking good regardless

>>149044314
Lol what a crock of shit it’s sad you believe this, about Bruce or about jason. If anything it’s the exact opposite.

>>149044328
Okay? Whatever that means.

>>149044225
Dicks been in so many team books the last 40 years he's got a friendly or romantic relationship with the majority of female characters in his age group which also includes Jason. So its either invent a new character no one other than shippers will care about (Artemis) which is a financial risk when trying to get a new ongoing in 2025 or put him with an established character with a fanbase who unfortunately chances are already knows Dick

>>149044309
its better than what he's got now at least. kind of feels like they're trying to do a knockoff from the Arkham Knight DLC though

>>149044353
There are tons of characters that don't have relationships with Dick. Artemis was a preexisting one already.

Jason writers just write him like he's dick.

Do DC use AI for their covers?
>>149044277
What's her character?

>>149044314
Red Hood isn’t just a mask, it’s his identity. Jason is the Red Hood. Trying to separate the two just waters him down into another Bat sidekick knockoff.

>>149044381
Jason's character is distinct enough to tell him apart from the rest of the pack.

I can't even recall the last thing I saw Helena Bertinelli in up to this moment

>>149044396
Hush 2.

>>149044381
Separating the two would mostly force DC writers to do their homework. Nightwing but a bad boy is faster and get the point across much better.

>>149044400
That explains it. I don't touch anything Hush related given 99% of Hush related things suck ass

>>149044134
>>149044150
Again, why are you super angry and triggered? If you believe that it's going to fail, there's no reason for you to be this pitifully angry. Take a deep breath and calm down.

Absolutely nothing good has come as a result of this man joining DC.

>>149044174
>Dick fanboy
It's always the answer. They are weirdly obsessed with Jason even more so than his fans.

>>149044174
>Lobdell fanboy
those exist?

>>149044353
--CASUAL ALERT--
Jason is closer to Tim's demographic than Dick's. He's the same age as Cass and Steph.
Just admit he wants to eat Helena's clam to try and get a taste of that original recipe.

>>149044458
They sure do in some anon's head. They can't shut up about it.

>>149044381
>Trying to separate the two just waters him down into another Bat sidekick knockoff
When Denny O'Neil tried to give Jason Todd his own character, the NPCs revolted because they wanted a bootleg Dick Grayson. Jason will always have that going for him.

Honestly surprised it took this long for Helena to get the bat-bike treatment.
They've already run through Babs and Rose.

>>149044496
Who has Rose fucked?

>jason is failure!
>he is nothing!
>he is just a dick wannabe!
>reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Wew, lads. No need to be this insecure. Not interested in the book? Just simply don't bother.

>>149044462
>retard alert
You're the casual for not knowing DC has been pretending he is closer to Dick's gen since he came back.They wanted to age him up while Dick and Tim had to either stagnate or grow younger because Batman, a guy who looks like in his late 40s, can't push past his 30s or some shit...

>>149044513
Jason, and she must be terrible because Jason goes out of his way to avoid her.

>>149044513
In Dick fanboys wildest dream, they think she was in relationship with him and Tim despite the fact that they she never dated or slept with them.

>>149044527
Also because since they had Talia fuck Jason, they had to age him up.

So is Jason finally back to killing people?

>>149044353
Anon we're not talking about Rose or Kara here (where at best they had a crush on him and he ignored the,). Babs, Kory, and Helena are his 3 main love interests. It's both sad and hilarious that DC has now attempted to pair Jason with all 3 of Dick's main love interests.

They should continue the trend and put Defacer and Jason on the Suicide Squad and then perhaps let him have a pirate adventure with Bea. Maybe bring back Tarantula and have her rape him too.

In addition to being a tranny the author hates books with no sex in them. I think this books going to really earn that M sticker

>>149044513
Nobody, but she had a crush on Dick (thanks Devin) and then tried to rape Tim while drunk (thanks Johns). And they randomly paired her with Jason post Infinite Frontier.

>>149044587
Can't wait for Huntresses miscarriage reveal next year

>>149044587
Looking forward to nasty Jason-Helena sex.

>>149044587
based

>>149044595
Cool.
I guess Terra was wrong. She isn’t still a virgin.
IN YOUR FACE TERRA!

>>149044587
You niggas ever been to Louisiana? The humidity amplifies the heat, making it feel hotter than it already is. Now imagine two individuals wearing heavy leather going at it, now mix that with the stench of the swamps and the runoff from the local chemical plants. Shid is nasty.

>>149044610
You should have actually read Prieststroke.
Rose married Hosun. She was fucking.
Then he died.

Then DC started pushing her with Jason everywhere.
Thank god that era ended.

>Helenafags spend the last couple years bitching about Jasonfags trying to headcanon Jason as Helena instead of just reading books about Helena (because Helena is a girl and not a brooding bad boy)
>now they have suffer through her probably being ooc and Jason fucking her

It must really suck to be them right now lmao.

Jason and Helena should elope just to piss off Dick and Babs.

>>149043886 (OP)
so, nudity?

>>149044634
Let's pretend those are not antis larping as fans...Is that the same Helena?

>>149044170
people liked that mess?

>>149043886 (OP)
Does Helena usually use the bo staff?

I'm more familiar with her using crossbows

>>149044388
That’s what you believe, but the truth is, without killing criminals or crossing the line in some way, he’s really not that different from the rest. Take that edge away and you’re left with just another ex-Robin trying to play hero in a city already full of them.
>>149044424
>why are you super angry and triggered?
Lol, do you really think I’m angry?

>Pairing jason and helena
>when most helena fans hate jason for replacing her
This is going to go well.

>>149044057
Oh my God, Jason is going suck a cock, and Helena is probably going to have a cock.

>>149044672
Jason already had edge prior to becoming Red Hood, you dumbass.

>>149044527
>>149044549
Jason is a roidtranny. He looks older because the fraud factor. He was 18 when he fucked Talia.
Approximate ages for the Robins
>Dick - 28
>Jason - 23
>Tim - 21
> Damian - 14

>Tim and Kory in Fortnite
>Jason and Kory in new 52 RHATO
>Jason and Babs in Batman Eternal/Three Jokers
>Tim and Babs in Arkham Games
>Bruce and Babs in DCAU
>Luke and Babs in DCYou Batgirl
>now Jason and Helena

How have Dickfags not all killed themselves yet due to the sheer amount of cuckery WB/DC forces on the character?

It's incredibly easy and sad to point out when dukecuck makes a pointless post

>>149044701
>Dick - 28
He like 6 years younger than Bruce now?

>>149044734
This is a shill thread from DC to promote their new comic.
You will comply.

This actually fucking sucks man

>>149044743
Bruce is 41.

>>149044701
>roidtranny
>the fraud factor
Sorry, I'm not terminally online. This mean nothing to me.
>Tim; 21
He is 17.

Helena couldn't be in Birds of Prey because of this shit and H2SH

>"No. l'm sorry. I will say I did ASK for
Huntress for a new arc, but was told she was spoken for --which I hope means something cool is coming for her sometime soon!"

https://x.com/dcuworld/status/1859965686870626670

>>149044759
>He is 17.
Nah he's at least 18 I remember DC made sure to tell everyone they weren't publishing CP cover art when they released this

>>149044699
Having attitude isn’t the same as doing something with it.

posting the Red Hood story that probably got the author the title

>>149044789
> age-up one year to be with Bernard.
>>149044792
What do you think Felipe Garzona and Batman The cult are lmao.

and that's it

>>149044759
Tim turned 17 twenty years ago. They took him out the Teen Titans books about a decade ago. They replaced him with Damian because Tim was no longer a teen. He's a young adult that owns a houseboat in the gay district of downtown Gotham where he bottoms for Bernard. He's is approximately 21. Maybe still 20.

>>149044587
They're being up front at least

>>149044837
He wasn't quite 18 in Detective Comics when he left for college in Ivy Town and the broke up with Steph off panel

Huntress fans aren't taking the news well lmao

>>149044833
this was such a bad story, why did DC think they should 1) greenlight it, and 2) make it an ongoing? Ugh.

>>149044837
No way they're letting him be Robin if he is 20 or more. They de-aged him at some point and didn't focus on mentioning anyone's age because it's a mess. Until DC had to do damage control over a cover to not be accused of doing cp by twitter.

Just give him the helmet and jacket back.
What are we doing here?

>>14904482
>What do you think Felipe Garzona and Batman The cult are lmao.
Those stories prove he needed to be Red Hood. Otherwise, Batman would’ve just kept treating him like a reckless sidekick and nothing more.

>>149044876
Neither are Dickfags with their sloppy seconds jokes.

>>149044876
>>149044906
Jason fans on twitter are rioting he's saving cops

>>149044905
>Those stories prove he needed to be Red Hood.
No, they just proven Batman should stay in his kiddie pool and not take a child to a junkies and rapists themed party. Twice.

>>149044906
Jasonfags actually like it when Jason takes Dick’s sloppy seconds? Yall don’t want him to make his own relationships?
Cause once is whatever, twice is suspicious and annoying, but thrice is just hilarious and pathetic.

>>149044860
Seriously, why don’t use Ravager instead of Huntress? Those two don’t even know each other.

Odds that this is fact a Huntress book with Jason slapped on to sell?

That is what happened with TFZ (a Two-face book) and the Hill (Martinbrough's OCs)

>>149044872
>>149044892
i thought infinite frontier re-aged everyone to pre-flashpoint age brackets. otherwise it makes no sense.
between damian aging 4 years since Morrison and Lian Harper existing again, Tim and co can't be that young.

>>149044906
I think it's way worse for Jason than for Dick.
Like Jason literally can't have shit of his own, so he needs to take from his more successful older brother, it's actually pathetic.

>>149044926
>twitter
>rioting
I don't care what twitterfags are doing or why you know that.
>>149044938
I guess understanding nothing come naturally to you.

>>149044944
I also would've chosen Ravager.

>>149044944
Ravager is pure and too good for Jason.

>>149044944
They can’t decide what age she is.

>>149044959
>otherwise it makes no sense.
Bingo. It never had and you have no guarantee it won't change again.

>>149044959
>it makes no sense
In New52 they slammed 4 Robins in a 5 year timeline. what we're at now is the height of logic.

>>149044759
>roidtranny
>fraud
>>>/fit/

>>149044960
It's suck for Jason but not because " his more successful older brother" lmao. It just suck to have him saddled with a love interest and to have pissbabies have a meltdown over it. If I cared about that romance and soap opera shit I'd read Nightwing.

>>149044157
>>149044171
>namefag drama

>>149045048
>namefag
Gretchen is the name of the writer, who is a dude who think he’s a woman you absolute retard.

>>149044976
Right? If he wants to write official horny fanfic, why not use the right one? Ravager literally writes herself in that role.
>>149045005
I’m going to be honest. It’s probably because she’s Asian and DC doesn’t want more WMAF pairings.
>>149045008
Are they really that stupid? You know what? Never mind, I think I already know the answer.

>>149044814
>>149044815
>>149044819
>>149044825
>>149044833
This is terrible

>>149045047
My point is that he can't have shit of his own, it's all handmedowns from Dick.

>>149044860
>he’s being up front
Ftfy

>>149044435
Blame Damn Dildo for this and his eternal hatred against Geoff Johns

>>149043886 (OP)
Why is Huntress brown?

>>149044424
Neither of the posts you replied to seem all that “triggered”, trannyman

>>149044950
This meme is from reddit, because nobody, except reddit, remembers Mia Dearden’s high school getting blown up

>>149044179
Supergirl had a trans creative team and she’s doing pretty good.

>>149045156
>pretty good
No it isn’t lol. It’s not completely off the rails terrible like his TMNT ended up but it’s not at all good.

>>149045129
Twitter actually, but from what I've seen, many people remember that.

>>149045109
She's black like Timmverse Lex Luthor. They're swarthy.

>>149045156
>team
The guy writes and draws it. This is the problem with the “they them” nonsense I guess, people start referring to a confused single person as a team.

>>149044860
At each and every point during their relationship, Helena should comment on how much bigger Jason is than Dick and how much longer he lasts than Dick.

>>149045232
>implying Jason is bigger than Dick
There's a reason he's so angry all the time.

>>149045232
Red Hood the roidtranny? Not having steroid-shrunken balls? Doubtful.

>>149045010
No, New 52 ages made sense because they cut out years worth of stories and de-aged everyone. Dick was only 21.
They re-aged everyone after Death Metal and it still makes sense except for the Timfags that want him eternally 18 for some reason.

>>149045083
Since Robin and I don't care if he does something more interesting with it, like Robin. For the rest the barr isn't exactly high.

>>149045248
Not to mention Artemis wasn't that impressed with Jason. Meanwhile Dick has a good post-sex reputation.

>>149045232
No, Jason gives off angry dicklet energy.

Let’s make a guess. How long do you think the writer will last?

>>149045248
Yeah, his daddy problems, phonecuck.

>>149045551
Multiple things can be true.

>>149045223
The colorist is also trans.
That’s why we’re calling them a trans creative team.

>>149045562
That’s just your projection. You also don’t read comics.

>>149043886 (OP)
Man, Jason's costumes just keep getting worse and worse.

>>149045353
If Dick is 21 and Tim is 18 in N52 then it doesn't make sense.

>>149045248
They're all angry. Happy people don't dress up in a spandex to brood about muh justice after nightfall.

>>149045568
Yikes didn’t know that. Why does DC hire so many trannies?

>>149045097
Lets not pretend Johns’ take on Jason was good either.

>>149045512
You men before he ACKs himself or gets fired? Gotta be the latter because I don’t think they make rope strong enough to support that much weight

>>149043886 (OP)
What a terrible pairing.

>>149044876
Link proofs?

>>149046168
Jason just gets paired with anyone.

>>149046231
Just look up Helena or Huntress on Twitter.

>>149043960
The secret king of America said so

Didn't you fags keep pushing that he would die in H2SH?

>>149046732
No, but I find it funny you thought that would happen.

>>149046901
Would we get an entire issue dedicated to steamy lesbian sex?

>>149046901
Do angry women on twitter realise if they actually bought books with female leads that wouldn't happen? Jason's probably the biggest B list character who can vaguely support an ongoing that didn't already have a book and they had to shove someone in their with him.

>>149043886 (OP)
I might read it if Jason keeps wearing those pants. Don't give a shit about whoever that other person is though.

>>149046901
They should be thanking Jason for giving these characters any sort of relevancy.

>>149047238
follow-up: that interior art design is not great. pass.

>>149044820
>What do you think Felipe Garzona and Batman The cult are lmao.
Oh wow, he killed a rapist. So awful.

>>149045005
>Ravager is pure and too good for Jason.
She's worse than him, nerd.

>>149047278
I'd rather have my favorite character stay irrelevant over having to play second fiddle to Jas*n T*dd.

>>149045932
>Why does DC hire so many trannies?
They work for cheap.

>>149047339
it's funny how we pretend there are serious considerations for characters like 'they can't think of anything for tim to do' when most of the time books are assembled by pulling names out of a hat and taping them together.

>>149047339
>t. Timfag

>>149047386
I don't even like Tim more than I like Jason.

>>149047339
We all rather have our fave stay irrelevant than see them play second fiddle for a character we don't care or like. It's the one thing in common all DC fans have. This mental gymnastic about "my obscur character can props up smth" is pure copium, however.

>>149047339
Who's your favorite and what should they be doing?

>>149047496
My biggest problem is the writer is not a good writer, and also a crazy person who likes to fantasize about killing his political enemies.

>>149047803
That seems like a fairly appropriate mindset for Jason though. He believes killing is the solution to a moderately political systemic problem (a justice system that doesn't give him what he wants because its ideological framework doesn't permit it).

>>149047842
JK Rowling is not Jason's enemy unless you're a delulu who thinks Jason is secretly trans, or who thinks Jason is all warm and fuzzy about trans people in an explicitly upper class white way.

>>149047868
>thing nobody said but me is wrong
ok

Not that I think Rowling is relevant here, but Jason is absolutely a violent bleeding-heart liberal, arguably to a greater degree than most/all other members of the Batfamily.

>>149047959
he does lack self control like all brain dead progs.

>>149044903
the red hood is wearing a red hood
the helmet was not a hood

>>149048093
The hood was never literal, he was called that cause he's a hoodlum.

>>149043886 (OP)
How many issues until it was cancelled due to low sales like all the last attempts at solo Robin comics?

>>149046901
You people didn't even know Artemis before RHATO. Stop pretending that you care about her.

Interesting how I keep seeing more people upset for this news all across the internet than people happy.

Especially for a book that is being touted as "the dream of every Jason Todd fan"

>>149043886 (OP)
I wanted Jason and Helena to team up for years, but they have almost never interacted besides a few brief lone panels. I thought they could have a nice allies of convince dynamic, where they dislike each other but are forced to work together by mutual enemies and gradually earn the each other's respect. There could be occasional flirting but never evolves into a real relationship, similar dynamic to Batman and Catwoman.

Now the team up that I’ve wanted since the mid-2000s is finally happening… but it’s being written by a man who has never written a comic before and believes that he is a woman. Tragic.

>>149048544
Oh please, the people who are upset are the usual suspects who wouldn't have bought this comic or anything else either (but they will for sure check it out anyway since they are obsessed).

I don't care for DC anyway, but the supposed hate is just forced and some of it is just out of jealousy.

>>149048611
Lots of Jason fans aren't happy with either the looks, or the inclusion of Huntress

I don't care for Jason much as I used you, but the sheer hypocrisy and meltdown over anything related to him is still hilarious. For a character that they keep insisting that he doesn't matter, they are way too deep into him.

>>149048626
You mean his twitter fangirls who just love complaining to get attention and approval? Trust me, they will read it.

>>149048626
I think Red Hood looks great but I’m concerned about Huntress. She has too little purple on her costume, considering her costume was almost entirely purple for a while.

>>149048672
>ugly old jason with one of dick's exes again
they will stay away in droves

Imagine if the Bat-office sent every Jason-related job to artists with a big red warning sign that reminded them he's physically like 18-19.

>>149043886 (OP)
Bro, it's a Red Hood comic, written by a fat trans....the chance of Jason sucking a dick is high.........or I don't know, him being trans, or Huntress being trans.

>>149048775
writers don't actually get to make those decisions, anon. if it were going to happen, it already would have.

>>149048401
I knew about her...

>>149048757
We haven't seen his face without mask? How did you decide that he is ugly? Besides, we are talking about the fangirls who call Jason a "Leasbin" and "babygirl" and wants him to a homo degenerate. They don't care about the story and they will check it out anyway so they can have something to whine about.

>>149047959
There is no evidence to support your claim. His background may make him more supportive of wealth distribution but there is no way he'd support trannies or mass immigration.

>>149048831
There are preview pages where we can see enough to know it's another Old Jason look.
No one calls him a lesbian.
Babygirl is a fandom term that has nothing whatsoever to do with someone's appearance or sexuality. It's a description for how a character is treated in a narrative.
>>149048868
You're an idiot.

>>149043944
>Nooo you can't take away the Bat Office's toys, even the ones they don't want and only ever use to prop up their latest BatSchizo episode! You just can't nobody is allowed to be their own character with agency other than Bruce!
Fuck off faggot.

>>149048876
the argumentation of the progressive in its natural habitat: absolute nothing.

>>149048775
Jason needs his fanboys in the editorial department to step up and stop this from happening. It worked for Conner.

>>149048876
Then provide evidence that Jason is a bleeding heart liberal. What specifically about him would make him champion progressive causes?

>>149047959
In my head canon (based on canon), Jason hates faggots. He always loathed them just for being repulsive since he was a kid on Crime Alley, but since becoming a crime fighter he now truly despises faggots because he learned most child monsters are LGBTQXYZ.

>>149044035
Because that would mean admitting that Bruce is crazy in a way that is sometimes legitimately detrimental rather than cool or badass and that he wasn't able to do what needed to be done due to the fact that he psychologically can't, and Jason accepting that.

The latter could happen but for the last like 40 years almost any time it is ever implied that Bruce is not perfect in any way that isn't used for dramawhoring or to make him look broody and cool or that his own psychosis legitimately undermines his and others efforts at times outside of again, used as a way to jerk him off in some other direction, the bat editorial has one of their infamous schizophrenic episodes and flips the fuck out.

>>149044179
Oh god, the post apocalyptic book about two trannies hunting down men after a virus turns them all rabid. Who's scouting talent at DC?

>>149048917
>take away the Bat Office's toys,
uh
any evidence this is actually outside the bat office?

>the guy who hates cops and incels, defends hookers and reminds people to respect pronouns
>conservative
lol

>>149044253
That sounds awful, but at least he's back to killing again.
Maybe that's what Loeb meant by getting rid of some Robins. Making Red Hood a proper villain again.

>>149048672
This disingenuous post presumes there isn’t merit to hating what DC has done with the character. Shit, even his current Robin mini is absolute ass because it’s going there with the assumption Jason was always a reckless, violent, angry little shit.

>>149043886 (OP)
Where is Artemis nowadays? She's the best girl for him

>>149049107
Rose is better

>>149049107
Dude, she was a boring character. RHATO was a dogshit run that fucked over Jason

>>149049197
She was literally the female token of the team and somehow even worse than Starfire.

>>149049086
>Jayfags crying over something that's plagued both Bruce and Dick for decades.
>>149049196
Rose is too good to be tied to the Red Hood. She can carry a Titans title, or help fill out a new Deathstroke book.

>>149049321
>Rose is too good to be tied to the Red Hood
She isn't.
>She can carry a Titans title
She cannot.

>>149049321
>they should just accept the mediocrity… BECAUSE THEY JUST SHOULD, OKAY?

>>149049321
Jason has been treated worse than Bruce and Dick put together.

>>149049382
Ravager was the most popular character in the post-Johns TTv3 run. There's a reason she's the one that got the backup story and the Terror Titans spin-off.
She's still popular today. It's why she got a dedicated Knight Terrors mini while Jason had to share his with Tim.

>>149049002
The last time something like this happened with Nightwing there began to be impetus to spin him off into his own office in house rather than being under the ultimate authority of batman editorial with some allowances to the folks handingly Teen Titans, it was why they put the kibosh on Nightwing solo.

Solo run books removed from the vicinity of their parent property are historically precedent and a first step to spin them off into their own editorial if they go for long enough. It can and often does put the administrative rights for the new created supporting characters, locations, and so on in a kind of limbo and removes a lot of direct control and authority from the hands of the parent office because it's not all pre-partitioned and the like with them as the final say from the get go due to how the tangled fuckfuckcircus of rights and oversight are handled within the company's internal divisions.

>>149043886 (OP)
>Jason's in the hands of the rape fetish author
Oh no.

>>149049518
Jason's core narrative arc demands that Bruce have actual give and compromise in a way that doesn't suck him off so that isn't surprising.

>>149049521
>There's a reason she's the one that got the backup story and the Terror Titans spin-off.
That’s because Slade was dead and they tried to make her his replacement. It didn’t work, and those stories are terrible.

>>149049554
No it doesn’t. The narrative demands that he never be seen as heroic and always either ends up in blackgate or on the run.

The problem isn’t Batman compromising on his no-kill rule the problem is ever accepting Jason.

>>149049535
>Solo run books removed from the vicinity of their parent property are historically precedent and a first step to spin them off into their own editorial if they go for long enough
Literally never happened

>>149048802
And yet as the story goes Tom Taylor made jon kent gay with zero oversight.

I hate Judd Winick so fucking much.

>>149048672
>>149048611
Ywnbaw

>>149047959
>pro-2A
>pro-killing product-of-their-environment criminals
>bleeding heart liberal

>>149047346
So would straight white men who actually care for the characters so I don’t buy that as an excuse.

>>149049650
that isn't how the story goes though. the dramatic retelling was that both offices planned this editorially but didn't communicate with each other, resulting in the antisynergy of tim and jon.

>>149049673
>what are left libertarianism and end-stage marxism
>believing liberalism means no guns at all when vastly more leftist countries than the US still permit private gun ownership
jason only believes killing is okay because he believes he knows best and the justice system is corrupted by the rich.

>>149049698
Tim was planned Jon wasn’t.

>>149049767
Bleeding-heart liberal =/= libertarian

Bleeding-heart liberal means the opposite of libertarianism. It means demanding the government raise taxes to pay for housing the poor and running drug programs, take guns away in the misplaced belief that it would save lives and opening borders.

Or did you forget you used that specific term?

>>149049777
that's not how publishing works. it's absolutely not how comics publishing work. we have mountains of knowledge about how writers can't do anything in their stories without editorial permission. at most you could say the writer pitched the idea. editorial still had to give it the green light.
>>149049813
>let me define terms for you when no one suggested any kind of strict autismal definitionalism so i can say you're wrong
your concession is accepted and replies ignored

>>149049847
That isn't what it means anyway. It means "person I think is liberal (pejorative)." It's not a policy position.

>>149049521
>Ravager was the most popular character in the post-Johns TTv3 run.
Compared to who? Maybe some of the extra they added on but she was never as popular as the main Titans or the others they would occasionally attach to them like Tim and Conner.
>She's still popular today
She's only vaguely remembered because she's Slade's daughter and is the Robin's village bicycle. She isn't even as remotely a popular as the other Titans.

>>149049197
first like 25 issues were great until lobdell got rid of artemis and bizarro

>>149050036
No, it wasn’t. It was just drama slop with no real direction, and let’s not pretend there weren’t plenty of moments shitting on Jason along the way.

>>149049086
>This disingenuous post
How about you actually bother to read it well first? Never said that DC has done a good job with him and I always claimed that his popularity was completely accidental on their part, but trying use the reactions of his fangirls on twitter who have some seriously cringe and messed up view of his character isn't a proof of anything. They literally get angry at the idea of him getting involved with a girl because in their mind, he is sexless or whatever stupid cringe term kids these days are obsessed with. They even get angry when he get along with Batman and family and get angry when he doesn't. They want him to kill, but now they are angry that he does. They just love whining.

>>149044035
You are so unbelievably gay. What you want them to hug it out and go to therapy like your favorite tumblr fanfics you faggot? And then what? Once Jason is “healed” what then? He sticks around Gotham as Diet Nightwing? If he’s not killing people he has no reason to exist

>>149050008
The hilarious thing, they pretend to care about her, but they seem to only remember her when the topic is about Jason. Just like with Artemis who is currently just a useless npc in WW, but her so called don't seem to care until Jason get mention.

>>149050183
>If he’s not killing people he has no reason to exist
He's never gonna kill the Joker though

>>149050219
Good. That means he gets to stay Red Hood forever.

>>149050208
Or Roy. Remember how dick fans used to cry about his so called epic friendship with Roy? They are currently sharing a book and they no longer seem to care about him or their so called friendship.

I never thought I'd say this, but without Lobdell, Red Hood is an absolute no-go for me. Dude totally carried that book and made it feel like something straight out of post Image 90s DC

Don't know what it is, but DC seems totally intent on making Jason a low-effort version of Nightwing with no qualms about killing

>>149050303
>red hood doesn't kill
>he just a watered down version of nightwing!
>red hood kill
>he just a watered down version of nightwing!
Jason's bane isn't dc, but his fans.

>>149050208
>>149050287
Funny. I'm a fan of both Ravager and Arsenal.
If I could set a lineup for a Titans book they'd both be in it.

>>149049847
Sperging out doesn’t change the fact that Jon wasn’t planned only tim was.

The only person that knew and okayed Taylor making Jon gay were his book and group editors.

>>149050337
>>red hood kill
>>he just a watered down version of nightwing!
Literally, who the fuck says that?

>>149049767
Bleeding-heart liberals favor heavy government intervention. Libertarians favor laissez-faire approach. In fact, this modern autistic approach to libertarianism that somehow imagines you can be a left leaning or right leaning libertarian is absurd - it’s an extremist traditional anti-government conservative designation. Are you retarded?

>>149049847
>>149049906
It appears so, you’re absolutely retarded.

>>149050600
"bleeding-heart liberal" is an insult someone on the right made up, you stupid faggot. it doesn't have a policy meaning.

>>149050600
>libertarianism description includes multiple forms of it and representatives from the left
weird how reality disagrees with your fanfiction.

>>149050658
>>149050679

It absolutely does you massive faggot, not all liberals are bleeding-hearts. It’s specifically an insult toward liberals who are overly sympathetic to those they see as less fortunate or disenfranchised.

Jesus Christ why are you zoomers, though it’s clearly just one samefag, so retarded?

>>149050679
>>149050658
>>149049767
>>149049847
>>149049906

https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/bleeding-heart-phrase-origin-meaning
>The phrase bleeding heart is used to describe one who shows excessive sympathy for another's misfortune and is historically thrown as an insult toward more liberal politicians

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/bleeding-heart-liberal
>a person of left-wing or liberal views who is deemed to be excessively soft-hearted

https://politicaldictionary.com/words/bleeding-hearts/
> The term “bleeding hearts” refers to people who care deeply — so deeply that their hearts bleed — about the suffering of the needy. The term is almost always derogatory.

>It’s usually applied to those on the left, hence the phrase “bleeding heart liberal.”

It’s one of the most specific and well-known terms anon. NTA btw this just seems bizarre to even debate.

>>149043891
Basing this just off rebirth nightwing, I thought she was cartoon southern italian.

>>149050183
Just a reminder that human drama/soaps operas in comic form is exactly how Marvel kicked DC’s for twenty years straight. This anon is quite literally gay.

>originally introduced as a solo character who got on the Justice League
>got on another team book and went through character development
>ever since new 52 can only show up to fuck batboys

>>149050303
>Dude totally carried that book and made it feel like something straight out of post Image 90s DC
That’s probably why it was so shit. Lobdel didn’t get Jason’s character at all and had him all to himself for nearly a decade. What did Jason get out of it? Worse than nothing, he lost all the valuable time that could have fixed him following the shitfest that was pre-NU52 Red Hood.

>>149044035
>Fem Casuals love to see the human side of characters.

>>149051172
>he lost all the valuable time that could have fixed him
And how would he have been fixed?

>>149050287
Have you bothered reading Layman's Titans?
There's a reason no one is talking about it.

Bad gives things to discuss. This is just boring.

>>149051219
By not tying to a bunch of C and D-listers, obviously. By not fucking up his classic origin story. By not insinuating his murder was his own fault and that he brought it on himself.

Jason like 20 and Helena like 30?

They should use Jason trying to fuck all of Dick's exes for a character piece that concludes with Jason just wants to fuck Dick

>>149051439
Nobody knows anymore as Damian aged from 10 to 14 yet Tim somehow went from 17 to 18 in the same time span
But if DC actually cared about character ages, then yes Helena was much older than Jason and more around Dick's age, even new 52 Helena considering she was still a a teacher at the spy academy

At least Grant Morrison will no longer have the worst Jason take

If Jason were real, this is what he would be like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGMQXNUpJo8

He would hate gays and trannies. He would not be the “ally of the community” that twitter and reddit imagine him to be by projecting themselves. They would be the reporter, talking to Jason the UFC champ. Nobody with a healthy amount of testosterone, like most superheroes, supports this crap.

>>149043912
>>149043923
At least Dex still does art of them from time to time

>>149052119
sorry but mr onions has been cancelled for retweeting jaydick art

>>149051860
If Jason was real he would still be living in the ghetto and have several mulatto children.

>>149051860
>>149052276
If Jason were real he would've gone to jail for stealing food as a kid

>>149050831
>definitions which prove you were wrong and agree with the posts you're mad at
That's certainly a move.

>>149052473
He stole tires you dumb troon.

>>149052885
And do you think he’d be able to buy food without a job and with absent parents you dumb cunt?

>>149047803
It's what the noisy Red Hood fans and the larpers have been whining about for years now.
>>149047842
>He believes killing is the solution
Not even. He just believe some people should be killed. If you think any character in this franchise think about solving systemic problems or offer a solution there, you're out of your mind. Batman and co are about punching thugs and putting them into prison because the system works for them. It's just that cops are not efficient enough to catch the problems without them. RH is when the system doesn't work and/or Bat&co need a retarded strawman to have the moral high ground their fans are absessed about.
>a justice system that doesn't give him what he wants
More like, a justice system that doesn't work around clowns when it's not the biggest clown of them all, Batman, who deny him legal Justice when he covered Jason's murder. Red Hood is nothing but a strawman stucks in a clown world.

>>149048672
>Trust me
I trust you to be projecting a lot here.
>>149048983
>based on canon
Nope. All the rapists he fought against as Robin were men attacking women. If Jason must despise faggot it's because he worked with Bruce and this guy constantly talk about Dick. Also whatever love story is going on between Batman and Joker.

>>149044954
Very high. They know Jason has a big fanbase, but the problem is his fans are picky as hell and won’t stick around if it’s just bait. That’s why TFZ and The Hill flopped so hard.

>>149053244
Ironic considering that you are the one who is projecting hard by claiming that Jason only fought rapists and is a protector of women. He fought and killed petty criminals more so than big criminals.

>>149052124
>jaydick art
was it suitably graphic?

>>149053793
>He fought and killed petty criminals more so than big criminals.
Really? He did that as Robin? Because if not you may also need to check your reading comprehension. Projecting faggot.

>>149044954
TFZ wasn't a Two-Face book. It's the most recent decent Jason book.

>>149048868
>>149048976
>thinks stealing is ok especially if it's medicine
>speaks multiple languages including Spanish
>sometimes catholic
>supports lesbian mothers/has had lesbian mothers
>goes to gay pride parade to support gay family members
>the person he loves the most is a billionaire capitalist
>pro gun
>enjoys being anally penetrated by male furries
>most anti cop person in the batman family
>double masked
>"no one's son"
>somewhat positive about nuking Washington DC
>saved Ronald Reagan
>uses chosen pronouns/gender belief
>hates men and has killed around 100 men and maybe two women
>executes criminals

>>149043886 (OP)
Anything with jason in it is auto-trash

>>149053679
TFZ was fun, I wish they'd make Jason and Two-Face a team again.

>>149054220
>enjoys being anally penetrated by male furries
Why do you confess about your AO3 history like that, anon.

>even Red Hood gets a comic nowadays
>Babs and Steph are still left in the dust
I hate DC

>>149054238
Winick just set the bar too high. Now every lazy writer looks worse by comparison.
>>149054240
Honestly, I think Rosenberg might be a good writer for Jason if he genuinely cared about the character.

>>149054383
nah, jason as a character is impossible to be written even mid

>>149054346
Stephanie is way too slutty to get her own comic.
Times have changed since 2010.

>>149054648
He’s not impossible to write. You just need to actually understand him. If you don’t, of course you’ll think he’s a lost cause.

>>149054383
Winick’s garbage story telling is why Jason’s character is the way he is now.

>>149054346
>even Red Hood
>even
He is more popular than both of them combined. It's a more of a joke that Cass got a book and he didn't.

>>149043912
This is all anyone wanted

>>149055151
So, why didn't the "all" buy the book back then?

>>149055041
Maybe. Winick wrote Jason in a smart, layered way without spelling everything out. He trusted readers and future writers to understand the character on their own. But because of that, lazy writers who don’t want to think deeper or put in the effort end up misunderstanding him. So instead of building on what made Red Hood compelling, they reduce him to a flat, edgy stereotype or a generic antihero with no real depth.

>>149055221
>He trusted readers and future writers to understand the character on their own
He said he wrote him as the villain and was amazed when people found him to be sympathetic. By the last time he was let near Jason he was writing a bara ginger who read Jane Austin and beat up rapists naked in the shower.

>>149055241
>a bara
I envy you for being this innocent.

>>149055221
>Maybe. Winick wrote Jason in a smart, layered way without spelling everything out
Last time we saw Jason in 1988, he was literally saving his mother, who was his betrayer and murderer out of pure love. To act with grace and forgiveness spoke multitudes about Jason. But Winick wiped his ass with that and had to come up with a contrived story about Jason being a villain who doing commentary on letting people like Joker live… despite one of his first character arcs as Robin had him realizing such people aren’t worth anything less than ingloriously rotting away in a prison cell. But Winick had Jason’s character regress.

>>149055329
Jason fandom won't heal until his fans admit that Jaybin and Red Hood are two different character not created for the same purpose, and realize they are free to like one and not the other or both.

>>149055367
Unfortunately, Red Hood’s fandom is more numerous and many of them treat stories like UTH and Lost Days as literature on the level of Alan Moore’s Swamp Thing, despite being the very same material that has put Jason in a stuff spot.

>>149043886 (OP)
/k/ here, those guns looks fucking stupid, rmr sitting high as fuck on his right deagle and the left deagle has a laser that hangs a mile off of it

>>149055241
So he was surprised people actually paid attention and understood that Red Hood isn’t just some villain.
>>149055329
This shit again? His mom didn’t kill him. The Joker did. And she’s dead, while the guy who killed both of them is still alive and well.

>>149052670
Yeah no wonder you think men can be women, you just refuse to acknowledge reality

>HIS MOM DIDNT KILL HIM, SHE JUST HANDED HIM OVER TO JOKER TO BE MURDERED
Dumbass that makes her complicit in his murder. In fact, she willingly did it to save her own skin.
>while the guy who killed both of them is still alive and well.
Guess what, Two-Face murdered his father and Jason still let him go.

>>149055561
>Dumbass that makes her complicit in his murder. In fact, she willingly did it to save her own skin.
She’s fucking dead. She got her punishment. Stop digging up her corpse for nothing. It doesn’t change the fact that the Joker is the one who killed them.
>Guess what, Two-Face murdered his father and Jason still let him go.
So what? Two-Face didn’t kill Jason. If he had, and Batman just let him walk like he did with Joker, you really think Jason would’ve done nothing?

>>149055821
>Stop digging up her corpse for nothing. It doesn’t change the fact that the Joker is the one who killed them.
lol, but Jason’s murder hinges entirely on his mother. Without her plotting to save her skin, Jason doesn’t die. She sets everything into motion.
> If he had, and Batman just let him walk like he did with Joker, you really think Jason would’ve done nothing?
Yup. Because he had already written off people like Joker and Two-Face because they’re insane. It’s like getting mad at a snapping turtle for biting your finger off.

>149055869
being insane doesn’t erase responsibility, and it sure as hell doesn’t justify letting murderers keep killing.

>>149054658
Steph is slutty, but Huntress isn't?

>>149055990
Tell that to Jason who decided that it was the law's responsibility to do what they needed with Two-Face after said person murdered his dad.

He gave Two-Face and Joker a chance, but that doesn’t mean he has to keep doing that forever.

It's not his choice to make. It's funny because when UTRH happened, Jason pretty much did the same shit Two-Face would do but more openly. Jason Todd might as well have created more Jason Todds because of his actions, only there is no Bruce Wayne to save them, only the hard streets.

>New Angelique, a city drowning in corruption, seems like the perfect place for Red Hood to put down roots. There’s crime, vice, and sedition everywhere. When Jason discovers a super-powered serial killer who is targeting the city’s police, he finds himself sucked into a deadly conspiracy with seemingly no end in sight.

>But Jason isn’t the only person on the scene. Following his trail is Helena Bertinelli a.k.a. Huntress. Is she here to stop him, or will she join his crusade? What will happen when the two black sheep of the Bat-Family start working together?

>“Jason isn’t a regular antihero who coldly does things their own way and feels nothing,” continued Turturro. "He is an exposed nerve, a beating heart with no protection, a man lashing out at both his world and himself for the violence he has survived. Helena deeply understands where Jason has come from. They're two severely broken people who can't help but hurt themselves and others… and together they might just end up bringing out each other’s worst instincts.”

>"Red Hood is a mature and richly layered Jason Todd series that gives the long-troubled outcasts of the Bat-Family a place to truly shine,” concluded Turturro. “Jason is going to take a crack at doing things on his own terms in a city of his own. And well, you’re going to need to read the series to see how that goes. But let’s just say that we’re not pulling any punches. Buckle up.”

Eugh

>Red Hood Vol. 1, collecting issues 1-6 of this new ongoing DC All In comic book series, will publish on June 16, 2026, and Red Hood Vol. 2, collecting issues 7-12, will publish on December 1, 2026. Future volumes will be announced soon!

They are awfully confident on this book

https://www.dc.com/blog/2025/06/16/dc-announces-new-red-hood-comic-book-series

>>149056630
Honestly, even though the comic isn’t out yet, I’m already seeing a lot of red flags.

>>149043886 (OP)
Neat!

>>149056197
Huntress practices birth control unlike Steph.
Helena can also go to her priest’s confession booth the day after to confess her sinful exploits.
Stephanie just trashy.

>>149043902
Leftists have this weird obsession that Sicilians are supposed to look like they are 20% black.

>>149057675
Steph has had sex, canonically, with TWO people. Tim and her baby daddy.

Huntress has had sex with: Dick, Josh, Roy, Constantine, Question (Charlie).

Also, confession does not make one not a slut. Just one who has confessed.

Just a reminder that Jason canonically has one night stands, no protection according to that Damian Wayne dare comic.

>>149058679
its a hangover from his child prostitute days

>>149054172
Not that anon but if it’s anything like pic he’s probably making some people happy like he did during the Rebirth run. DC should have let him do his Red Ronin spinoff/elseworld while they had the chance.

>>149059484
You’re thinking of the HIV girl from Green Arrow.