Thread 149059961

Syndrome was such a good mix of goofy but also genuinely menacing

Oh fuck, he looks like Justin Silverman.

>>149059966
He looks like my friend from middle school

>>149059961 (OP)
what happened to the super villains after the superheroes prohibition? shouldn't they have taken over the world?

>>149060273
>what happened to the super villains after the superheroes prohibition? shouldn't they have taken over the world?
They became politicians.

>>149059961 (OP)
When I was in elementary school I used to fantasize about Mr. Incredible shattering his bones while he let out high pitched blood curdling screams.

>>149060304
ok bro

He was unironically right. Super’s has a massive advantage over regular people and could enclave humanity if they ever so wanted to. He just wanted to equal the playing field.

>>149060273
My headcanon is that the government started enforcing a zero tolerance death penalty on any supervillainy, scaring small fries like Bomb Voyage off. The bigger villains got hunted down by the FBI and assassinated and had their assets seized . It took a lot of money and pissed off a lot of taxpayers but hey a world without s*pers ain't free.

>>149060770
>He was unironically right.
Not about everything. He insisted on wearing a cape.

>>149059961 (OP)
Same can be said about The Incredibles as a whole, it struck the perfect balance of relatable family humor and genuine peril.

>>149059961 (OP)
One of my favorite types of villain.

>>149059961 (OP)
he's the chad and the virgin at the same time

idk about that but I love his adoring fan/Jimmy Neutron hair

>>149060273
>>149060819
These + a lot of supervillains develop weird relations with their superheroes. If Batman stopped being a superhero, Joker would retire

>>149060273
The whole point of the beginning of the second movie was that modern corporations were fine with supervillainy as long as their insurance covered damages, which doesn't help the common man, but since when has corporations ever cared about the plight of the common man (that guy getting mugged outside Bob's boss's window for example).

>goofy but also genuinely menacing
Any anons got any other examples?

>>149059961 (OP)
I love his shiteating grin

>He’s not weak, you know
>What?
>Valuing life is not weakness
>Oh, hey. Look, look, if you’re talking about what happened in the containment unit, I had everything under control
>And disregarding it is not strength
>I called his bluff, sweetheart, that’s all. I knew he wouldn’t have it in him to actually-
>Next time you gamble, bet your own life

Top 5 Pixar scripts, for sure

>>149060273
There are no “supervillains” in the world of The Incredibles, only normal bad guys with gadgets and gimmicks.

>>149063516
All the "supers" (i.e. people with innate powers) just happen to be good and heroic.

>>149059961 (OP)
I know /co/ hates Kung Fu panda 2 for some reason but I think another good character like that is lord Shen

>>149063818
It's just one autist

>>149062412
Aku

>>149063818
>for some reason
It's boring and unengaging crap

>>149063463
I thought elemental was fine but that’s no way than guy can touch this level. Brad Bird himself couldn’t touch it with 2

>>149063818
It's literally just one worthless faggot

This movie fucking sucked
https://youtu.be/A8wiNv6laU8?si=e51MRz2sRqxg4I9x

>>149059961 (OP)
>You SLY DOG
Jason Lee killed this role

>>149064980
Utterly irrelevant.

>>149060160
He looks like, but I'm not ur friend from middle school, or am I?

>>149059961 (OP)
Jimmy Neutron ahhh cut

>>149063990
You sure it's just one?

>You took away my future. I’m simply returning the favor. Oh, don’t worry, I’ll be a good mentor. Supportive, encouraging. Everything that you weren’t. And in time, who knows, he might make a good sidekick
Great villain

>>149060819
Nice take

>>149059961 (OP)
Do the eye masks really hide their alter egos that well?

>>149067889
Comic logic, it does because they say it does

>>149067906
Fair enough.

>>149060273
They got raped by the government

>>149061783
The talk Elastigirl had with the kids was an eye-opener
Sure, there is a lot of other scenes, but that one even struck me as a kid that this movie was not pulling any punches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzY9wLa3XAo

>>149068571
Brad Bird earned that PG rating

>>149063818
Most of /co/ seems to like it, me included
Although, one has to admit that it is held up in a large part by Lord Shen being as consumed, petty and ruthless as he is
>the fucking parting gift line

>>149065828
>You sir, truly are MR INCREDIBLE
He did

>>149059961 (OP)
'Syndrome' is one cool-ass villain name you gotta admit

>>149060273
There's probably a movie idea in there with some of the more discrete supers being recruited by the government to capture or take out villains and uncooperative heroes.

He's menacing in the animatic before they decided who was going to be the main bad guy in the movie and they just had syndrome be a guy who broke into the Parr's house while they were sleeping, paralyze the parents, and move to smother their baby in the crib.

Any hopes for Incr3dibles?

>All I wanted was to help you. I only wanted to help! And what did you say to me?
>Fly home, Buddy. I work alone
>It tore me apart. But I learned an important lesson. You can't count on anyone. Especially your heroes

>>149069303
Zero.

>I was wrong to treat you that way. I’m sorry
>See? Now you respect me, because I’m a threat. That’s the way it works. Turns out there’s a lot of people, whole countries who want respect. And they will pay through the nose to get it. How do you think I got rich? I invented weapons. And now I have a weapon only I can defeat. And when I unleash it, I’ll get— You sly dog! You got me monologuing! I can’t believe it.... It’s cool, huh? Zero-point energy. Yeah, I saved the best inventions for myself

>>149069473
>>149070086
All it would have taken is for young Bob to say
>Buddy, I'm happy you want to help fight crime, but without experience a young man like you can get hurt or killed. You're smart, really smart, and if you keep learning and training you'll be a great hero one day, but right now I'm sure your mom is worried sick.

>>149070181
In Bob's defence, he was getting married that day. He had other things in his mind.

>>149060273
Writers don't know how to answer this, so they just have the supervillains stop for no real reason. I really want a satirical story where super heroes are outlawed, so villains absolutely fuck up society because now its easy for them to do it.

It would be like Civil War, but instead of heroes going against each other, it'd be the government trying to assure everyone that they can take FUCKING MAGNETO without the X-Men or Charles interfering and slowly watch as people suffer and die because holy shit what can you do. At that point though, I think they'd launch some government engineered super "hero".

>He’s not alone. The fat guy’s still with him. They’re just talking

>Verify you want to switch targets? Over
>Trust me. This is the one he’s been looking for
Frozone was going to be the next target. He got lucky that Mirage realized who Bob was.

>>149062071
I actually think Bob's boss was right in that case. If Bob wanted to help the guy, he should have ran out and did it or called the cops. Its not like Bob's boss can just condone him running out and beating ass on company time. And why did Bob need permission anyway? As soon as his boss said "no", he could have just did it and lost his job.

>>149068996
Brad Bird could have voiced him in the movie too, to be honest

Syndrome changing plans to grooming Violet

>>149070260
How do you think Frozone would fare against the first Omni-Droid Bob fought?

>>149071012
Pretty well I reckon. Lucius is very light on his feet. The lava might dehydrate some of his powers, though...

>>149071598
I could recite this whole scene by memory

>>149059961 (OP)
That's why insane villains are so popular. They can pull both off and it doesn't feel out of character clash with either side. Syndrome grew up hating his idol and turning his dream on its head and it unhinged him while he continued to develop his genius and became a mass murderer. And then his plan falls apart in multiple ways.

>>149070267
I love that scene because you're absolutely right. It's just that it's not the way Bob wants to do things. He's so pissed because he can't help the way he wants without consequence so he takes his frustration out on the guy. You just know he's done this before too.
>Money money money money we can't keep doing this Bob.

>>149068571
I liked that Helen didn't talk down to them or hide the truth from them, she understood they're old enough to know what death is.

>>149072810
In the original script, they already had the pilot die.
Which adds quite another layer to violet not being able to shield to the plane

>>149060273
By the time of the ban most of the real villains were already defeated

>>149069303
Syndrome took Jack Jack that night and that rset was just Helen's hallucination. I3 begins 10 years after.

>>149069303
Super-powered villain with more emphasis on Violet as a lead.

>>149059961 (OP)
What's the closest comic villain equivalent to this guy? Is he based on anybody in particular? He's really good for a one-off movie villain.

>>149069303
Supervillain family to be the main threat with actual powers. More scenes of Helen Parr being sexy really or fetishy scenes like how she got stuck in door in first film, bound in the electric ring thing or hypnoed in 2 and less Jack Jack cause I hate the little bastard.

>>149071598
>>149072233
>Okay...you had your drink...now put your hands up and-
>I know, I know....Freeze

>>149074417
Funny to think how Frozone not getting blasted immediately is one of the more unbelievable things that happens in the movie

>>149059961 (OP)
Was it autism?

>>149070181
Bob likely had a talk like this before but Buddy didn't listen because of his obsession. Plus, on that particular day he was on a time crunch because his wedding was coming up and he wanted to get some extra superheroing in before then, which Buddy was obstructing.

>>149069303
No. Nearly everything about the first was better, even visually at times despite the gap in tech the art direction was top notch. The grounded yet sleek retro futuristic look can't be beat by the 50s kitsch they went for in the sequel. I loved have drab and boring everything and everyone looked in the Paar's day to day civilian lives looked, it really helped them stand out.

>>149075980
Asperger's syndrome

>>149069303
Elastigirl ass, maybe some cute violet and dash scenes, not much more than that

>>149070086
Always bothers me he says "You got me monologuing" instead of "You caught me monologuing", Mr.Incredible's apology wasn't prompting a monologue, it's not like he asked "Why are you trying to kill me/What happened to you/How is this possible?" or anything.
I guess maybe it's to show how he deludedly projects his faults onto others, but it always felt less sensible than him commending Bob for instinctively seizing a natural opportunity a Superhero would face even after years off the field.

>>149071012
>>149071598
the original plan was to recruit him, wasn't it?
supposedly the specs accounted for his powers.

someone can go check the computer scene with all the killed heroes, but i want to guess that 2/3 times the droid won

>>149063516
>>149063530
This has always been a technicality, Blazestone was not exactly a villain but was considered too volatile without constant watch, Psycwave similarly misused her abilities in morally questionable fashion before she decided on a whim to try using them for heroics, Gamma Jack is also infamously recalled for having unnerving opinions about the hierarchy of their world.
So there's nothing to really clarify whether supervillains exist or not.

It's passed off as annoying little kid antics, but Dash is a recent example, he uses his abilities to torment his helpless teacher and own sister for no reason other than he can. Without the guidance of his superhero parents there's nothing to suggest he wouldn't have continued with indifference since no one but Violet, Syndrome and the Omnidroid could really give him trouble, Brad Bird appears to use Supers as allegories for superior individuals, but never suggests the Supers are always innately morally superior.

Fuck I think they based Syndrome's design on Chunk, the paradigm of goofy ignored sidekicks.

>>149071012
>>149071598
He would've died, his powers don't work if there's no moisture in the air, this was established when he and Bob are in a burning building and Bob yells at him to put out the fire.
>Can't you put this out?!
>I can't lay down a layer thick enough, it's evaporating too fast!
>What's that mean?!
>It means it's hot! And I'm dehydrated, Bob!
>You're outta ice?! You can't run out of ice, I thought you can use the water in the air!
>There is no water in this air! What's your excuse, RUN OUTTA MUSCLE?!

I know a girl who looks like him. She has a syndrome, too, specifically Downs. Because they look so much alike, I just found him amusing rather than menacing.

>>149078361
He looks like a Disney animator to me, can’t remember which one though, but I’m certain I’ve seen a caricature that looks exactly like Syndrome and it was from a Disney documentary

FLY HOME BUDDY

>>149071012
Pretty badly all things considered. He's playing decoy and distraction in the final showdown with the big one. Although that one is bigger it's still very much the same Omnidroid that Bob beat right down to its weakness. If he ever got driven down to the lava-bed he was as good as dead. He can only play keep away with it for so long. He was gonna die.

>>149078760
>>149078361
I thought he was based on Bird.

>>149069303
Villain has time powers as a compensation for the lower stakes of 2

>>149078799
The problem wasn't that the stakes were lower though...