Thread 149060805 - /co/ [Archived: 903 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/19/2025, 12:53:15 AM No.149060805
Annette Castlevania
Annette Castlevania
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ITT:
Bad characters' redesigns
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 12:59:01 AM No.149060881
>>149060805 (OP)
Middle looks like Harley Quinn
Right looks like a ripoff of Naomi
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 1:03:18 AM No.149060925
>>149060805 (OP)
Look at the bright side, it only took Netflix 6 seasons to kill the show for good, granted some of those "seasons" were 5 or 8 episodes only, but still way too much for this show
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 1:34:48 AM No.149061212
Silver Banshee
Silver Banshee
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>>149060805 (OP)
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 1:59:25 AM No.149061500
>>149060805 (OP)
Netflix version is fucking CUTE!
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 2:00:29 AM No.149061513
>>149061500
She needs to be an extra 200 lbs with at least 3 baby daddies.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 2:01:08 AM No.149061522
Livewire
Livewire
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>>149060805 (OP)
>>149061212
Most of the redesigns in MAWS are shit
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 2:03:26 AM No.149061550
>>149060805 (OP)
>brown = not okay
They all look different and the Netflix version has the more appealing design and style.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 2:09:36 AM No.149061627
>>149061550
Nigger, everyone knows why race-swapping is a thing. Don't pretend like it's purely a design decision.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 2:10:07 AM No.149061635
>>149061550
>appealing
not everyone has jungle fever like you
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 2:12:46 AM No.149061659
Maria
Maria
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>>149060805 (OP)
I liked Maria better when she looked like a Slayers' character
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 2:16:16 AM No.149061692
Dexter's Lab
Dexter's Lab
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>>149060805 (OP)
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 2:16:57 AM No.149061700
Maria Renard
Maria Renard
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>>149061659

But this isn't the version of Maria that people actually care about.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 2:29:48 AM No.149061852
Maria
Maria
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>>149061700
Nah, most fans say "Rondo Of Blood is the best, you should play that!!!" many even consider it better than 4, the Maria in the fighting game is also the young one
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 2:31:35 AM No.149061873
>>149061522
Banshee didn't bother me too much, different spin. Livewire sucks because theres some fun ways to spice her up that they didn't do
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 2:38:03 AM No.149061938
>>149061852
Correct, best Castlevania is Rondo. Second Best is Aria. Third is Symphony. Fourth is 4.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 3:14:50 AM No.149062348
>>149061852
>the fighting game
I guess a bad redesign thread is the only place for mentioning it even exists
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 3:21:44 AM No.149062443
>>149060805 (OP)
What did the PSP good ending look like?
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 3:27:21 AM No.149062511
>>149061212
>>149061522
Why is it trying so hard to be 1995 anime?
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 3:38:46 AM No.149062625
>>149061700
No one likes Adult Maria because despite becoming an adult she LOST her breasts. Disgusting. And her entire personality being annoyingly in love with Alucard only made her annoying. Any time a female character's personality is Muh Male Character I'm In Love With she becomes annoying shit.

The only time this cliche never bothered me was Kyrie from Devil May Cry and that's because the writers understood "Hmm this bitch doesn't have any personality except sucking the male character's dick so lets DIMINISH her screen time and stop pretending she will ever amount to anything." That was brilliant and I love how in Devil May Cry 5 Kyrie got reduced to an Off Screen Phone Call you never see her on screen because she's a sack of nothing. That's how it should be done to female characters who don't have any characterization to be interesting.

Wish they did that to Starfire from Teen Titans stupid bitch only exists to suck Dick Grayson's dick. And I hate how DC is giving her a cartoon series even though she isn't interesting.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 3:41:34 AM No.149062656
>>149062443
In the good ending Richter rescues all the damsels successfully and you get a render of Richter and all the women he rescued. I like to pretend that he never rescued Annette during the PSP remake to justify why he gets mind controlled in the sequel Symphony of the Night.

Because I hate how that bastard Iga grabbed Richter and said "Yes Richter killed ALL the villains but for NO REASON he gets mind controlled by a villain who he already killed TWICE in body and soul." I can't stand that homosexual cowboy faggot. And I hope Bloodstained 2 is a failure so his career dies.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 3:45:57 AM No.149062710
>>149060805 (OP)
Gert should have kept her office worker outfit for the Brett Bean run.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 3:59:57 AM No.149062844
Grant
Grant
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>>149060805 (OP)
>>149061659
>>149061852
Grant got lucky that they excluded him from the Netflixslop show, the reasoning behind excluding him is as retarded as the show itself
>"He is a pirate so he doesn't fit our show, so we excluded him"
Apparently no one told the showrunner that he was a thief, not a pirate
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 4:01:16 AM No.149062854
>>149062625
>Wish they did that to Starfire from Teen Titans stupid bitch
lmao its you again, how many times do mods need to delete your posts before you take a hint no one wants to see your psychotic ramblings
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 4:35:04 AM No.149063236
gayandgayer
gayandgayer
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>>149060805 (OP)
Let's be honest. His design came with a lot of baggage. Give me his Netflix design with the game personality and mannerism cowards.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:00:42 AM No.149063480
>>149061522
I'll be honest, I don't care for Livewire's OG design and think the Babs Tarr design is best.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:18:15 AM No.149063622
>>149063236
>His design came with a lot of baggage
Elaborate
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:20:17 AM No.149063634
>>149061692
Why did Genndy do this then tried pinning it on Savino?
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:27:54 AM No.149063699
>>149061212
>>149061522
I like their designs in a bubble but I never like when shows just make all the villains have the same origin. It feels like it makes everyone the same.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:29:25 AM No.149063715
Isaac_(animated_series)_-_01
Isaac_(animated_series)_-_01
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>>149063622
He can't be presented as a straight up villain anymore. I tried to look up if there were concept designs that were closer to the original but it seems that he was always going to be a pseud-bait character.

I hate meme stat thing (particularly when they add stupid shit like "love of chocolate") but the writers got butthurt when the promotional material accurately listed Isaac as pure evil.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:30:14 AM No.149063725
>>149063715
Oh you mean they couldn't keep his original design because their intention from the beginning was to totally rewrite the character
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:39:41 AM No.149063806
>>149063725
No, they decided to make him Black so he can't make him play the role of a straight up badguy despite being objectively evil.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:43:10 AM No.149063839
>>149061212
>>149061522
Banshee is at least cute though. They should've leaned more into the Banshee look for her actual costume though.

Livewire does look dogshit in MAWS but to be fair the OG design wouldn't have fit in with MAWS' style and art direction. That being said they could have done much better and making her brown certainly didn't help.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:45:27 AM No.149063870
>>149060805 (OP)
Might as well make a new character
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:45:59 AM No.149063876
>>149063870
That's not subversive comrade
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:57:25 AM No.149063979
>>149061550
Kys l*dditroon
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:56:34 AM No.149064420
>>149063715
>I hate meme stat thing (particularly when they add stupid shit like "love of chocolate") but the writers got butthurt when the promotional material accurately listed Isaac as pure evil.

So many hack writers think the key to good characterization is to bombard the audience with useless factoids about the character even if none of it germane to the story. And this goes extra for world building. They're so in love with the idea of giving you countless useless details that they don't give any thought to the actual story or how the character is presented but since we told you his favorite food that makes him deep.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:23:14 AM No.149064616
DNstats
DNstats
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>>149064420
I was talking about bullshit like this. Not only do they have add one meme stat, the stats are absolute bullshit. Apparently, Hector is slightly stronger than Isaac and Isaac effortlessly beat people several times stronger than him.

Unrelated but Tsugumi Ohba proved me right with Platinum End. He is a terrible writer who caught lightning in a bottle.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 10:23:13 AM No.149065514
>>149063870
There is delusion that work. Nobody actually gave a shit about the Netflix Castlevania OCs. Nocturne was doomed from the start.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 10:47:28 AM No.149065594
>>149064616
>Yagami
>Olympic Swimming is off the chart
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 11:18:31 AM No.149065678
>>149060881
>Harley Quinn
She wasn't well-known at that point, she was a very niche character.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 12:17:59 PM No.149065825
>>149060805 (OP)
All of these designs suck ass.

>>149061522
Yeah, the style itself isn't bad, but MAWS has utterly abysmal character design. I'm still butthurt about how badly Mxyzptlk was butchered.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 1:47:31 PM No.149066196
>>149062511
>>1995 anime
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 2:07:12 PM No.149066278
>>149061212
>>149061522
These
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 2:19:43 PM No.149066338
2018
2018
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>>149062844
The writers (at least the ones for the first series) straight up said they never played the games, I dunno if this changed over time but that was a common criticism back then, Netflix apparently choose not to renew the show after the season that came out this year and that's fine, it was shit, if they disliked the source material so badly all they needed to do was create their own IP and animate it on some "anime" wannabe art style and you'll get pretty much the exact same show aside from some names, half of the characters in the show were either OCs or changed so drastically from the source material that they might as well be
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 2:26:45 PM No.149066381
>>149065825
Shut up retard
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 2:33:45 PM No.149066412
Maria
Maria
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>>149065825
>All of these designs suck ass.
Nah, Rondo Of Blood/Dracula X's art style is kino 90s anime sovl
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 2:42:24 PM No.149066447
>>149061692
The last 2 seasons were shit in general
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 2:48:54 PM No.149066482
1690976938733989
1690976938733989
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>>149065825
MAWS is basically magical girl anime written by Westoids so the designs are consistent.

>>149066338
>if they disliked the source material so badly all they needed to do was create their own IP and animate it on some "anime" wannabe art style and you'll get pretty much the exact same show aside from some names, half of the characters in the show were either OCs or changed so drastically from the source material that they might as well be
The issue is that people wouldn't give a shit about the show instead of pretending it is the best video game adaptation ever.

>>149063715
New Isaac's mannerism doesn't fit his character. He needs to be more pathetic and ill mannered. Not this gay dignified bullshit.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 4:19:16 PM No.149067085
>>149061212
Souless
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 4:22:45 PM No.149067118
>>149061212
That redesign is kinda cute though. I wish she showed up more to justify it.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 4:23:28 PM No.149067126
>>149066412
Was this drawn on a cel?
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 4:29:47 PM No.149067203
>>149062443
Same but more clothed and without wings
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 4:30:05 PM No.149067206
>>149061522
Look how they massacred my girl
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:08:42 PM No.149067539
>>149061692
Bravo
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:14:48 PM No.149067598
I'm gonna be sick
I'm gonna be sick
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>>149060805 (OP)
>They negrofied her because some millennial woman couldn't come up with an original black character.
I'm gonna be sick, also isnt that more racist? You're basically telling blacks they can only have race swapped characters and not original ones.

I just won't watch it, they can't force me to buy/watch slop.
>>149061522
They redesign characters because they are ashamed of how they look so they gotta make characters ugly so millennial women don't cry.
Despite the fact it's a fucking drawing and has no effect on reality, and crying over a drawing being prettier than you is pathetic.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:40:37 PM No.149067867
>>149067598
THIS. Netflix Annette looks like she can pass as an original character. Just give her different name and that's it.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:43:00 PM No.149067883
>>149061635
NTA but I got jungle fever bad. I just want original characters that are black, race swaps without really good reason are gay
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:41:06 PM No.149068415
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>>149067867
>Just give her different name and that's it.
Neither Castlevania shows can survive under their own merit.

I really want to break the illusion that the first Castlevania cartoon was good and Nocturne "made it woke".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozvNlCGzwUQ
Game Isaac doesn't instant win fights or magically get his opponents kill themselves to get out of plot-armor hell.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:52:15 PM No.149068493
1598524292444
1598524292444
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>>149061659
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:55:01 PM No.149068515
>>149062844
And they still added that Vycking
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:56:11 PM No.149068522
>>149061852
Young Maria is also a unlockable playable character in Portrait of Ruin but I'm sure they just reused her Rondo of Blood sprites, she's in Dracula X as well but only as someone you can rescue and isn't playable, overall young Maria gets more love than the adult one
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:47:28 PM No.149069156
TheJoker
TheJoker
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I'm sorry, I think he looks silly, I don't get why he's barefoot.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 8:33:32 PM No.149069765
Netflix can only shit out something decent when a more talented studio has them in a death grip to keep them from making every character you're supposed to root for a Gay Nigger From Space, and twisting the story to be some lamp-shaded parable of Western Civilization Bad.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 8:36:08 PM No.149069807
>>149069765
You mean, all the anime shows that premiere normally in Japanese television but they snag the rights off and mark as "NETFLIX ORIGINAL PRODUCTION'?
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 9:10:31 PM No.149070241
>>149060805 (OP)
I'm against race swapping characters for no reason, but what they did with Annette was unironically good. Annette brief role in the games is literally just "Richter's girlfriend who has been kidnapped by vampires", full stop. That works for the bare bones story of the games, but would make for a shitty show because there's nothing you can really do with that as a character, because she is defined by being a damsel in distress and with no other character traits. That would get very old in a show very fast.

Netflix Annette is a completely different character who happens to share the same name, which makes for a bad adaptation. But the new character they came up with for that name is a major supporting pillar of the show's story and themes, tying together the themes of exploitation and revolution by making a character be the bridge between the french revolution and the haitain revolution that occurred at the same time is just solid writing. She's still Richter's girlfriend, she just isn't defined by being a damsel in distress this time and she has her own shit she is doing in the story besides just be a Princess Peach to go fight Bowser for.

tldr: unfaithful adaptation, better character
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 9:14:12 PM No.149070279
>>149061550
>everyone else HAS to share my barely disguised ebony fetish