Thread 149110085

Be honest, /co/
Do you still have hope for this?

>>149110085 (OP)
Bad animation.

>>149110085 (OP)
I do, Mike Judge did good with Beavis and Butthead. That gives him enough grace with me to try the KOTH revival.

>>149110085 (OP)
I'm still excited to watch it, but my expectations are toned way down now

>>149110186
This. I've had my own version of wanting to do this for year so... I'll just accept it.

>>149110085 (OP)
after seeing the animtion
no not really
king of the hill was never anything special animation wise but seeing it puppet rigged is a special kind of painful

>>149110316
I'd argue that it's even worse than Beavis and Butthead's rigging
At least the characters in that still have that line wiggle when they talk. That's the most important part imo

i was on board until that one clip where peggy outright threatens to divorce him over being excited about being in a museum

>>149110085 (OP)
>Do you still have hope for this?

>>149110085 (OP)
>Bad animation
>Much of the OG voice cast is dead
>Characterizations seem flanderized based on the storyboard leaks - especially Peggy and Khan
>"Ethical non-monogamy" between Connie and Bobby fucking nasty
>Hank abandoned Arlen for a job in Saudi Arabia
>Jokes about wokeism, manosphere, Trump, modern politics in general

It's over before it began. I know Mike Judge brought back Beavis and Butthead twice without issue but King of the Hill is a different beast altogether. I have no faith in this show at all, and I loved the original KOTH

>>149110085 (OP)
Not really. It's gonna be "Hulurama" all over again. They'll badly make callbacks to stuff people liked while trying to progress and develop things in a way that doesn't please anyone.

>>149110085 (OP)
Was really disappointed that bonny still has a little kid voice. Bad choice

>>149110117
this. the animation is soulless

>>149110757
*bobby

>>149110705
wait the saudi thing wasn't a joke?

>>149110705
>"Ethical non-monogamy" between Connie and Bobby fucking nasty
Making Bobby a (consensual) cuck would kill the show for me. The old episode where he's dressed as cupid was painful enough.

Thankfully it doesn't seem to be happening, the panel apparently said Bobby is a ladies man now. Maybe he bangs Connie but he's not in a relationship with her, right?

>>149110641
context?

i heard Bobby and Connie still get together so I'm holding out for that, specifically, and only that.

>>149110705
>>Characterizations seem flanderized based on the storyboard leaks - especially Peggy and Khan

This one is new, what's that about?

>>149110722
Not quite. King of the Hill's revival at least validates its existence by taking the opportunity to move things forward. This time-skip is a huge deal and opens up the door for some interesting new scenarios the original run never could. Hulurama on the other hand is just spinnings its wheels, and being boring and unfunny doing it.

>>149110173
This

>>149110085 (OP)
No.

>>149110085 (OP)
You should've known it was over when this guy took over Kahns voice

>>149110767
Its not that bad

>>149110085 (OP)
No.
Without Cotton, or Dale's original voice it's not the same. They should've just done an hour long special.

>>149110085 (OP)
Aniamtion looks bad, writing quality seems about the same, will give it a go

>>149113782
>Without Cotton
Dipshit

>>149110085 (OP)
I never had hope for this.

>>149113223
There were storyboard leaks a few months back just check the archive for it and you'll see for yourself, Peggy swears like a sailor now and is even more grating, and Khan is a sad divorcee who wallows with Bill with his character traits exaggerated. But in general the storyboard leaks plus the previews just don't give me any hope for it.

>>149111066
Here's hoping. From what I've read and heard they're in an open relationship, but this is the first I'm hearing of Bobby being a lady killer. It would make sense given his strong track record in the original series but until I see clips of this I doubt it.
>>149111025
Nope, it's the reason why Hank and Peggy were gone for several years. They saved up a small fortune working for the Saudi Crown and have returned to Arlen to retire. It makes sense it just seems very out of character for Hank, so I'm sure the show will explain why. But I don't have much hope it'll be a good reason or at least a reason that makes sense to Hank.

>>149113565
Credit where it's due, I appreciate them at least having the decency to do the time skip. It would have been so easy for them to do a Futurama and just keep going without skipping a beat and not letting anything about the characters or setting change or grow.

>>149110085 (OP)
I'm excited to see what /tv/ thinks but I expect it will be unremarkable

>>149113091
Connie is also getting plowed by Chain Wasanasong while dating Robert BUTCH Hill. Do you think Kid Bobby would've taken that? No. But big ol grown bitchtits Robbert will, Little fucker

>>149113091
Confirmed by the storyboard leaks

>>149113644
Why?

No, I haven't seen whatever he's from.

FUCKER

>>149115737
Nu Daily Show - before they brought John back, which didn't do anything to minimize the DEI woke stink

Shoulda just rode off into the sunset

>>149115544
This still feels, to me, like they're trying and it's not quite there yet and eventually they'll mutually decide not to go further.

>>149110085 (OP)
Yes. The animation looks shit but as far as leaks go I'll wait and see if they're true/how the show handles it. I don't really seem them mishandling anything worse than how they royally butchered Luanne's character in the later seasons of the original run.

>>149110085 (OP)
Joseph looks like he didn't change at all.

>>149110085 (OP)
The "don't worry, it's an all-gender bathroom" "peggy, are we all-gender?" joke killed any remaining hope I had for them to actually be trying with this. That line is from an incidental and Hank. Hank fucking Hill is now written to say shit like "are we all-gender" and not understand basic words put together to force a bad joke. That's fucking Patrick Star humor.

>>149110085 (OP)
I'll watch it pirated, like usual.

>>149116704
He didn't, Joseph peaked early.

>>149110085 (OP)
I never had hope for it. The original show had already long gone to shit by the time it ended and I can't imagine this is going to be any better.

>>149110085 (OP)
I'm not gonna rage about it if it sucks because the old show still exists and is pretty far removed from this in terms of when they were made (so it doesn't exactly feel like a direct continuation even though it literally is), but yeah even as a huge fan of the old show who doesn't get pissed off over shit like "omg Luanne should've become a mechanic/Peggy's moms/etc." I'm just not getting a great feeling about this. I was pretty interested at first but it feels like the more new info comes out, the worse it seems to look.

Not quite sure why. There's no one major thing I can point to but a bunch of minor things like:
>preemptively writing off Luanne because of her VA's death, this is gonna be awkward now that more VAs are dying
>writing of Hank specifically feels noticeably off (other characters seem fine to me honestly)
>show seems to be doing some weird stuff like Minh and Kahn breaking up and Nancy cheating again, which I get works for new story purposes but is a little depressing when the latter's storyline actually worked out well in the last show
>Keeping Bobby's voice the same is pretty weird, I actually think they could've cast someone else and then had Pamela Adlon voice Gracie or Luanne if they hadn't written her off so she'd still have a major role in the show

I thought the Saudi Arabia thing was really fucking weird when the first rumors of it came out months ago, but knowing the rationale for it and that they were living in an isolated American community makes that decision at least make a lot more sense to me.

Overall I'm just not really looking forward to it and am expecting it to be disappointing, though if it's actually good I'll be pleasantly surprised.

>>149110085 (OP)
The animation looks horrible
The new showrunner forced stupid bullshit like Saudia Arabia and forcing in his new black OC because he only writes either big bang theory shit or black reboots.
The Connie cuck shit is garbage.
The comedy is completely different to what it originally was, the dryness is gone and replaced with Peggy screaming swears.

PS: Get fucked John Deadcorn.

>>149116814
Yeah! Classic Hank Hill would surely never utter words and be confused by their obvious meaning for comedic purposes.
>Diminished Gluteal Syndrome? What does that mean?
>Mr. Hill... you have no ass.
>BWAAAHH!

>>149110085 (OP)
This is like trying revive the Boondocks when most the voice actors are dead. It's just gonna work. The new animation is throwing me off too. Sad. I still remember watching the last episode when it aired in 2008.

>>149117090
>The Connie cuck shit is garbage.
Anon, you're the only pushing that shit. You've pushed it in every KOTH thread for the last three weeks. You have an obsession.

>>149117142
*not gonna work

>>149117126
Using something like Gluteal Syndrome is not at all the same as bare bones words like "all gender." God damn I hate this board, you get the fucking worst writing imagineable and you still have to have some retort about why it's "actually not that bad!"

>>149117150
Polygamy is cuck shit.

>>149110085 (OP)
I can see it genuinely being pretty well written, but at the same time, I really don't see it going more than one season unless they lean into Bobby's stuff and younger characters so they don't have to use all the dead actors

>>149113565
Hulurama also tried to move things forward, like with Kiff and Amy and their kids. Even with the timeskip giving them a legitimate reason to change things up, it's still going to be rife with the same kind of Hulurama slop writing that amounts to "hey remember that thing that happened in the original show? Now it's later and something relating to that is happening!"

>you know the people in hollywood keep reviving old shows to woo us with their nostalgic good times and brainwashing broadcasting waves while they get rich off our hard-earned monthly passes lining their pockets?
>dammit dale, this isn't new. you're not even trying anymore.

>>149110085 (OP)
Mike Judge hasn't lost it yet. the B&B revival was great, common side effects was great, this will probably be pretty good. The only real red flag is being on Hulu.

>>149117897
>Mike Judge hasn't lost it yet.
I think he just did.

>>149117126
Oh yeah, I forgot how gluteal was just as popular of a word back in the 2000's and a hot button issue as gendered is right now.

The saudia arabia thing makes no sense
peggy swearing alot makes no sense
Khan and bill as roomates could be funny for an episode, but not a whole thing. Also sucks because Minh and Khan were kinda good together.

>>149118199
>The saudia arabia thing makes no sense
they wanted to do something that'd justifiably explain how Hank wasn't in America so he wouldn't be surrounded by the crazy Trump wave/the decline of Fox News/the indoctrination of modern conservatism. Basically, keep him in a vacuum to avoid having to answer "did hank vote for trump/become a magahead?"

>>149118199
>The saudia arabia thing makes no sense
They need an excuse for Hank and Peggy to be out of step with the times and it also lets them conveniently sidestep all the annoying bullshit from people wanting to know whether Hank voted for Trump or not.

>>149110085 (OP)
I never even finished the original.

>>149118264
S2-6 is the show's peak. There's a lot of skippable episodes in S7-13, but even the worst of those episodes are still mostly average or above average. You won't really miss out on anything if you don't watch them, but it's something to kill some time.

>>149118199
>saudi arabia thing makes no sense
Sure it does. He went there to sell propane.
https://www.lpgasmagazine.com/opecs-role-in-us-propane-exports/
In the last 20 years we went from being an importer of propane to the world's largest propane exporter.

>>149118432
>anon just admit to the that he lives in saudi arabia
oh this will NOT go over well!

>>149118457
THE UNITED STATES went from being an importer of propane to the world's largest exporter.

>>149110085 (OP)
I wanted to keep an open mind, but no. Not anymore. The animation, voice acting, and comedy writing I've seen so far does the exact opposite of inspiring hope.

>>149110085 (OP)
My expectations aren’t high, but I’m sure I’ll get enjoyment out of some of it. I’ll watch it all because I loved the original so much as a teenager

>>149110085 (OP)
The Beavis and Butthead stuff wasn't bad, and honestly the clips show that the type of humor you expect from KOTH is still there.
Doubt its gonna be top5 seasons but I doubt its gonna feel like soulless.

>>149110085 (OP)
It's unbearable how lifeless Peggy looks in every shot she's in. She has the worst default face out of all the characters.

>>149118888
That's just life after menopause.

>>149110278
Yah it's better than nothing I guess. Even if it's mid we'll get to see what happened to these characters as confirmed by the show

>>149110085 (OP)
I get a bag feeling that the writers aren't even fans of the original series.

>>149110085 (OP)
> Hulu reboot
If Futurama couldn't hack it, King of the Hill certainly won't either.

So they get back together? Is no one bothered by this?

>>149119050
Nancy was always hotter when she was cucking Dale. When she was actually trying to pretend to be a tradwife she was a waste of space. Literally the only thing I'm looking forward to right now is that Nancy's gonna be sexy again. Sorry Dale, they made your wife hotter when she's a bitch, and we like it like that.

>>149119050
yooo I said I was bothered by it >>149117030

I guess it's not unrealistic but I think it really sucks. I saw someone who'd allegedly seen a leak or was close to the production or something (or maybe they said this at the panel, IDK) that Dale and Nancy were deliberately on a break, I guess because of Nancy getting tired of Dale's shit, and that at one point Dale dated another woman too. It's weird.

Interesting to see how Jonathan Joss's death will affect this subplot I guess

>>149119088
If that's true they're assassinating all these characters for the sake of cheap drama, damn. I kinda want it to be true now though so we're not stuck in the limbo of "kind of annoying things" that aren't obviously bad enough for the average shitposter to not waste his time defending all of it.

>>149116814
Isn't that the whole point of hank hill? Just a stubborn man trapped in the reagan years ideology dealing with the modern (by 2000s time) world standards, him being on a small american bubble in arabia just makes its return even better, yeah he is aware of trump and gender n shit but he wasn't here to live it at full force while it happened, just returned for the aftermath.

>>149110085 (OP)
It can be salvaged if they kill off Hank's wife.

>>149120335
Thank you for your service Mr. Hill sir

New rule: If you weren’t at least as old as Bobby when the show premiered, your “take” is irrelevant and you can can it. I’ll reiterate, you were born after August 1985, your opinion on the matter isn’t relevant.

Fuck no, and once the hype dies down, and it's quietly cancelled midway at best into its second season, you'll understand it's yet another victim of the usual suspects.

>>149118263
Tell you hwat it's pretty dang ol' simple, yo.
>A New Yorker? No got dang way, mister.

>return to the boards for the first time since they got chicken jockey'd
>everyone's complaining more than they even were before
Do I have hope? Sure, I guess.If /CO/ can be just as shit as it was, then a revival can theoretically be just as good as the original

>>149111025
>>149115107
>>149118199
>>149118242
>>149118432
If you work and reside in a foreign country for like 10 months out of a year continuously your income becomes tax free. If Hank is looking for retirement money, that's the way to go.
I'm assuming he went for KOTH's version of Aramco, which means he gets basically a free place to stay, food per diem, and other benefits in addition for tax free income for staying overseas. He's not living in a mud hut, the Aramco compound is like a little slice of the US in Saudi.

>>149110085 (OP)
>Do you still have hope for this?
To be honest, I'm not the hugest fan of the final few seasons of KoTH to begin with. It wasn't that it was unwatchable but the characters were incredibly flat by that point but it still had some great moments (picture related). If the revival still manages to stay on par (or even be a little worse than the last few seasons) it'll at least be watchable.

Unpopular opinion, but I won't really miss John Redcorn so his VA's passing and him likely being written out won't bother me. Johnny Hardwick not voicing Dale, due to his passing, is worrisome but knowing that Toby Huss will be taking the role has me cautious optimistic.

>>149110316
the more i rewatch classic koth the more i realize how soulful its animation is. i daresay the show would've been impossible to pull off without it.

>>149120617
>non-monogomy
so she's gonna make bobby share her with other people?

>>149110085 (OP)
Can't wait for more nonwhites in a thing that was originally about white poeple.

>>149110085 (OP)
Might be?

I have only seen like two epsides cause my roomate watches the show all the time. I was surprised by how witty the dialouge can be

>>149121187
>If you work and reside in a foreign country for like 10 months out of a year continuously your income becomes tax free.
I had no idea about that.

>>149114319
NEVER... ?

>>149110085 (OP)
>Bill
finally anons can stop saying he died of COVID or something despite the leaks that Kahn is living with him

>>149110085 (OP)
>animation is shit
>Bobby is a cuckhold
>short timeskip canonically but characters will act like its 2025 in the show
Just another lazy cashgrab

>>149119070
>we
Keep your zoomer fantasies to yourself lmao

>>149123686
KotH had a good long run, it didn´t really leave any good stories on the table. Trying to reboot it 20 years later with half the VAs dead is like trying to reanimate an 80-year-olds corpse after his legs have fallen off. Even if you "succeed", the outcome is going to be terrible.

>>149110085 (OP)
It cannot feasibly disappoint me as much as Clone High
I've got faith in Judge, and Hulu

>>149110085 (OP)
I'm cautiously optimistic.
I think it's going to be okay, but not impressive. Ultimately it will just end up being 10 new King of the Hill episodes that are only unique in that they form a series epilogue. Even though I like the original run, it's not like every episode was created equally. Out of the new season we'll get some good episodes, some bad episodes, and ultimately I think we'll move on without it causing a major disturbance.
I'm just going to go into it trying to appreciate it for what it is, and then move on with my life.

This show never had good animation. What is with you retards?

>>149123840
>and Hulu
So we're at the point where /co/ will say retarded shit like "I have faith in Hulu"
How am I not supposed to think you're a faggot

>>149110705
They made jokes about this shait 15 years ago it other incarnations. Its about how the joke is done. Remember Hank is conservative and treatedwith some sympathy, even if he is also the punchline of the joke, because he's only the punchline SOMETIMES. As we all are. He's an ordinary guy and a nuanced character. Not some uber idort with a high powered job like Stan Smith or Homer Bloody Simpson.

>>149110085 (OP)
I dont even like the original koth. It's too sugary and wholesome.

>>149117755
Not that anon but, as you've demonstrated, they did it with very little effort and mostly relied on the self referential angle. They were up their own arse. KOTH will probably be a bit more thoughtful than that and have some actual variety in the writing and humour there.

>>149123870
The shill epidemic is going terminal these days.

>>149123849
My hope is that if it's modestly successful, studios will actually take note that if you *are* going to do a reboot/revival/revisit/continuation/whatever with a series, then at least do *something* new or different with it to justify its existence - age up characters, change the status quo, change settings, change themes, something, anything.

My fear is that if it's modestly successful, the only thing studios will take away from it is KEEP REMAKING THE SAME THING EXACTLY THE SAME!!1!

>>149124594
I understand your fear, but at the same time, you're letting wider corporate forces that are way outside of your control rule your opinions.
>I don't want it to be successful because corporate execs are retarded and might learn the wrong lesson.
I can see how that's probably going to happen, but then again, you're really letting these hypothetical retarded people effect your emotions too much. There's nothing you can do about them, so you may as well write them off as irrelevant.

>>149111433
Assuming this is the image I'm thinking of, a cringey political YouTuber beat the shit out of his ex and threw his phone at her, striking her.

Styxhexenhammer666

Just let Bobby move on from Connie, damn

>>149125180
I'd love if he's the one who decides not go pursue the relationship further. Like she actually thinks she can juggle a relationship and everything with her studies but he says he just wants to focus on his career and take it easy. You know, the opposite of the guy getting turned down for the woman's individuality trope.

That said I would like to see them together but they kinda nixed that in the bud by not making this feel like the same Connie anymore because of the incessent need to make everything "super different! whoah the world has changed so now everything has to be a little shitty like kahn getting kicked out and stuff!" and now she's entertained multiple partners at once. I don't root for her and Bobby to get together because of that regardless of if she goes back to monogamy or whatever.

>>149110085 (OP)
Will give it a chance since Beavis and Butthead revivals ended up being good

>>149118147
Worry about your own revival Rigbert

>>149110085 (OP)
No
Every reboot sucks