Why can’t sinners go to Earth? Like, what’s actually stopping them? Demons have multiple ways of going.
Also general hotelhell thread to post your bees loonas stellas octavias whatever

>>149111835 (OP)
>Why can’t sinners go to Earth? Like, what’s actually stopping them?

Viv should explore the social impact of some people becoming fuckable furry creatures while others turn into actual monstrosities.

>Moxxie hassles Loona again
>tell him he looks like an irish fat albert with a sunburn
>Loona wheezes

Ahem.
Loona and Anon.

>>149112196
heh

>>149111835 (OP)
Whats also stopping them from going to another ring besides the Leviathan one thats a huge ocean from underwater?

Starting work on ch. 5 today.

>>149113297
Excellent.

>>149111835 (OP)
When a sinner goes back to earth they're immediately smited.

>>149113667
Which is stupid. Vivzie doesn't care about holy rules. Blitzo and his band of murderers should've been executed by angels a long time ago if that was the case. But heaven is just okay with roving murderous demons on earth.

>>149111835 (OP)
>Why can’t sinners go to Earth? Like, what’s actually stopping them?

>>149112098
better yet explain how some of them are old like we got one old sinner and we know they dont age so are you stuck as the age you died? are there 90 year old sinners? that would be actual hell being 90 forever

>>149111835 (OP)
Presumably a magic barrier of some sort, same for stopping them from going to other rings.

>>149113831
The issue is that we don't see any such barrier stopping sinners because the writing is shit.

>>149111835 (OP)
They are dead. They are stuck in their afterlife now. Word of God.

>>149113719
>Smited
>Which is stupid
What's stupid about God/Heaven smiting Evil people from going to hell and deciding to just go back to Earth to do evil? They go to hell as a punishment, not as a reward. Imagine God rewarding evil people with omnipotence.

>>149113949
Why would god allow demons on earth? If he could smite he should smite.

>>149111835 (OP)
Vox would be an apocalyptic threat on Earth
I don't need to explain why

>>149114361
pretty much all overlords and sinners have the power to bring about chaos or a apocalyptic event if they were released on earth, which only serves to make Vivz Hell look more like shit since sinners are more powerful than they could ever be on earth

>>149114637
Vox would still be the worst threat for Earth because the dude is said to be a domineering force when it comes to technology, and pretty much more than half of humanity rely on technology on some way, the only reason why he hasn't been able to dominate Hell is because he's constantly challenged by other Overlords and he's confined to the pride ring, but in the mortal world he'd have no such restrictions and go full technological take-over without any supernatural rival stopping him.

>>149113587
Cute Loona

>>149115418
My wife is very cute.

>T Guy writing 'We are At The Base of The Fire'
>For context

https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/148543340/#q148566115

Alright after not reading that here's what I got

>>149112098

>Sinners look less human because only their souls go to Hell and most of their spirits dissipate into earth's psychic ether
>Sinners then have to 'borrow' energy from Hell depending on what sins applied to them
>The Pentacle side of Hell's moon (debating on Kerebos or Melinoe) acts as a block from the energy of other realms, astral forces, etc reaching them as they draw all their spiritual force from it
>when the moon's face turns to another side it's theoretically possible for them to leave
>this also keeps them in a similar headspace to where they were when they died and makes it harder to grow as a person
>so Hell doesn't make Sinners more evil through magic it just keeps them just as shitty and miserable as their last week of life
>if you're an occultist like Alastor you can bring more of your spirit from Earth back with you to look more human

>Why they're trapped

>Originally Sins or Goetia would let sinners out occasionally to act as their servants on Earth
>This would explain the marches of the damned found throughout Medieval Folklore
>changed as Hell got more and more people and ambitious Sinners got more and more chances to gain soul contracts
>Sins now keep the Moon in Tidal Lock instead of its normal cycle

As for how they'd get out permanently
>Replace the hell spirit with normal earth spirit

>>149116044
This feels overcomplicated and convoluted.

What would a rule 63 Agent One and Two be like?

>>149113786
This is how this old people constantly walking around in Elden ring

>>149116044
Next chapter when...

>>149112226
Loono and Nona.

>>149113297
>start with writing 1200 word
>delete it all
I gotta get Blitzo right. And Anon’s not going to be a pussy about it.

>>149117481
words*

Also I need some help coming up with slurs a demon would call a sinner, and slurs for imps

>>149117481
Blitzo is hard to write well without wanting to shoot yourself. The dude just sucks.

>>149117549
>imp
Fire toad. Smokeback. Cinder midget. Soot rat. Gutter gimp. Fire faggot. Satan sambo. Red trash. You can also accuse him of 'imp out' (like chimp out).

>>149117777
I need to tell all the angels these. I want angels to slur up a storm at shitzo and the gang when they finally are killed for their crimes.
Loona can be branded and shackled but be kept alive.

>>149117797
Better stop posting weird shit or I'm gonna sit down.

>>149117777
>imp out
That’s a good one.
Need some to call sinners, though.
Also, checked

>>149117824
Anon the wages of sin are DEATH. They have murdered hundreds of innocent people. They need to die, painfully for their crimes.

>>149117920
>Anon the wages of sin are DEATH.
Indeed. And let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

>>149117950
I think I have less sin then a bunch of murderous faggot demons, anon. Im chucking the stone right at Blitzo's skull.

>>149117965
The line is without sin, not 'slightly less sin than the guy next to you'. Pick up your cross and follow Christ.

>>149117998
Surrrre anon. Right after I line up this shot on Millie who is currently beating a 3 month old baby to death. Wrath demons need to be put down.

>>149118055
Or converted.

>>149118062
>trying to convert a Wrathian born demon not to kill
Id need to make her a quad amputee to do that anon. Her violence is in her nature.

>>149111835 (OP)
My guess: Heaven is full of a bunch of stuck up NIMBYs who do not actually want to help people, and absolutely don't want too many humans up there. (literal gated community). They are hostile to anything that threatens to ruin their paradise.

This means they want 99.9% of humanity to go to Hell so the angels don't actually have to deal with them. Therefore angels impose a rule that Hellborns can't come to Earth, in order to keep Hell and Heaven (relatively) a secret to humanity. Sure Earthlings kinda know about these places and some believe, but the vast majority of humans either don't believe Hell is real or aren't 100% sure deep down. If humans KNEW with absolute factual certainty that Hell is real way way more of them would take it seriously and be actively trying to get into Heaven. The angels don't want that. They're NIMBYs. So they tell the denizens of Hell to never come to Earth

>>149118082
So is sin in humans, but Christ still hopes that you'll change.

>>149118101
Humans can sin, demons are designed to sin. Their black hearts are FILLED with evil and they are predisposed to cause pain and misery. Very different.

>>149111835 (OP)
Because Vivziepop is bad at world building.
Like most things in the setting she never really thought about the ramification of things and just went "wouldn't that be cool/funny" or "because x" without any actual justification.
This is the same woman who can't decide weather the denizens of hell are just misunderstood goobers who can be redeemed or if when you walk down the street make sure you don't take the wrong turn and end up in the cannable district.

>>149111835 (OP)
Sinners can't even leave the pride ring of Hell let alone leave to Earth. And no one in Heaven even knows how Sir Pentious got into Heaven.

>>149118200
Christ would want you to try. They didn't choose to be hellborn. They were born in hell. Don't they deserve a second chance?

>>149118390
>Based and Tolkein pilled

>>149118253
>Sinners can't go to earth
>Sinners can't move to other rings within Hell
>Before Pentious ascended, Heaven is scared sinners will uprise against Heaven
How. If they can't even leave a ring of hell, what the fuck was Sera scared of? There was no proof at the time that they could ascend. What is keeping them in pride? This right here should undercut the entirety of the story

>>149111835 (OP)
>what’s actually stopping them? Demons have multiple ways of going.
The nefarious Doom Guy:

>>149118390
How am i supposed to deal with unrepentant demon SCUM? Knowing Vivzie, Millie would call me a bigot who hates Demon culture for telling her to not brutally murder everything.

>>149118521
>unrepentant
You don't know if you don't try.

>>149118595
>Blitzo stop killing innocents
>FUCK OFF
Well I tried, time to kill him.

take notes vivzie THIS is how you do a tv head sexyman

>>149118685
Honestly I feel like Caine did this trope better, though that might just be cause I didn't really like half of chapter 3.

>>149111835 (OP)
Every hole out of Hell may not be plugged yet, but it's just a matter of time before every fuck-up makes those holes easier to patch!

>>149111835 (OP)
I just wish there was a single character in the show that would notice how impossibly cringe Alastor is.

I tried to write a fix-it fic for the second season of HB but my motivation cratered. Sorr yanons.

>>149118906
This guy has been ruined by the tranny fandom around it. So much faggotry over robots.

>>149119289
Didn't the VA also voice some gay furry VN too?

>>149119329
he ruined a warframe character so he's on my shitlist for that

>>149117998
>slightly

>>149118906
>>149119289
Why do trannies love ultrakill so much?

>>149121458
The creators are big faggots online and pander to them and associate with lots of people who also pander to the lgbt crowd. Sucks but they seem to keep it to their social media.