Thread 149134880

There is no way any manga inspired webcomic with THIS artstyle would've gotten off the ground

WE HATE POMI!!

I miss the Ragatha abuse

>>149134880 (OP)
Am I trippen or does the character here remind me of madaoko magical?

>>149134880 (OP)
Maybe if she spent more time following that passion instead of going to school for graphic design, which is just the answer to the question
>What if art was only a utility?

Oh sa

>>149134880 (OP)
To be fair, Gangle got screwed in the Circus by having her hands taken away and replaced with ribbons. I’m sure if she still had fingers her art would look a lot better

Gangle knows yuri is the purest form of love

>>149136111
I wish a life-sized sentient doll would hug me like that...

I don't wanna be a nerd or nothing, but maybe we need to go back to one, consolidated thread at a time instead of the shotgunning that seems to be going on?

>>149135972
I saw the joke coming from a mile away but when the crowd slowly starts cheering it broke me.

>>149137232
>... So yeah, that's one slur for every major ethnic group!

>>149135544
The anime segment was storyboarded by Yoshiharu Ashino who worked on Meduka. Speaking of which, abstraction is really similar to turning into a witch. And Ragatha always reminded me of Mami.

What do YOU rate the new episode out of 5, and why?

Amazing that the only ship that is the closest to being canon is Pomni x Kinger considering they made a joke about him eating her out

>>149137297
Like a 9/10
It's easily my favorite episode so far. The only thing I didn't like was that some - some - of the dialogue was stilted, and I'm not even sure how much of that was just Ragatha being autistic.

>>149137310
>9/10 out of 5

>>149137297
8/10 some really really good character moments but the pacing felt pretty off throughout which is probably a byproduct of speedrunning a bunch of different adventures in one episode. Still probably my favorite episode so far.

Yes I am a Jaxfag how could you tell?

>>149137322
>8/10
>out of 5

>>149137297
4 out of 5, I actually laughed and love what it's setting up, I might end up enjoying it even more depending on what happens next

>>149137315
Fuck your out of fives
We're GAMING journalists here, we give everything at least a 7.

>>149137315
Arbitrarily limiting the rating to 5 numbers is dumb

>>149137330
Shaddap fag

>>149137333
>Arbitrarily
I did it to incite harsher ratings instead of giving the wiggle room of 6-8

>>149137344
Just for that, I'm bumping my rating up to 9/10 specifically to annoy you

>>149137296
Caine is similar to QB
The Digital Circus is similar to a Witch's Labyrinth
Ragatha is similar to Sayaka
Pomni is similar to Madoka

>>149137297
Pomni + evil Pomni sexo/10

>>149137297
7/10
My least fav so far, but probably the funniest. Still abome most productions these days.

>>149137025
>Jax

This but unironically

>>149137381
>Jax is Kyouko

Would Jax feel bad if he caused Ragatha to abstract? What about if it were Pomni?

>>149137405
>Would Jax feel bad if he caused Ragatha to abstract?
I doubt it, Jax only seems to care about his idea of fun, and Ragatha spoils his so he'd probably be glad she was gone if it meant someone more fun might join the circus. Jax likes Pomni more than the others because they're all used to his bullshit, unlike her

>>149137405
Yes, I believe so.
Anyone who's watched the most recent episode and still believe Jax doesn't care about the peole around him is too stuck on their old interpretations. Jax is a dick, but he's not a psycho.

>>149137501
I dunno. He didn't seem to care much wheb Kaufmo abstracted. And if you're going to bring up the funeral, it seems to me like he didn't want to go because it would remind him of Ribbit.

I do wonder if he went to Ribbit's funeral. My gut says no.

>>149137537
I guess it's pretty easy to demonize Jax if you assume every emotion he feels is somehow connected to a frog we've never met.

Which might be true, but I don't think is very interesting.

>>149137800
I think it's more that the devastation of losing Ribbit made him realize that it's easier to be hated than to lose a genuine friend. That's interesting to me.

>>149136627
>the crowd
watch the ep again

>>149137895
I think part of that is Jax wondering how Ribbit could abstract when their friendship should have kept them going

>>149137992
Hard to know for sure when we don't know what the dynamic between them was. Sure, they were friends, but who WERE they? Jax probably wasn't as much of an asshole back then, that's a safe assumption to make. But we literally have no idea who Ribbit even was, other than Jax's friend.

>>149137359
Rude...

>>149137895
NTA. Maybe you find it interesting but it doesn't jive with what's on the screen. He DID care when Kaufmo abstracted, but if you're too autistic to read expressions well that may have slipped past you.

A lot of Jaxfags are in denial about how genuine he is - the trolling is a coping mechanism that falters if you get him to open up even slightly. He's not the product of some epiphany about being hated (because no one is), he is - like all trolls - a stunted misbehaving child throwing a drawn out tantrum.

Things are looking up Gooblebros

>>149138098
Zooble doesn't have tits

The story seems to be painting this weird narrative that somehow Ragatha is just as bad / potentially even worse than Jax and I'm not buying it one bit. Why do so many people seem to imply that she's a total yes-girl with nothing but toxic positivity? She clearly fires back anytime Jax pulls some shit and isn't afraid to be hostile to him. The other members don't really give her reasons to be mean. She doesn't mind complaining about Caine adventures either. So what the fuck is this all about? Because she didn't want to hurt Gangle's( the most fragile one) feelings by implying she's a drag?
>that ending
If Pomni somehow ends up getting along with JAX better than Ragatha just because she's trying to keep the spirits up I might unironically quit the show.

>>149138067
If he did care about Kaufmo abstracting, he's hiding it from the cast members because he doesn't want them to see him in a vulnerable state. That would break the hateful image that he's worked hard to build up. I genuinely believe he doesn't want to be liked because he doesn't genuinely want to build another friendship. Granted, Pomni does throw a wrench in that theory a bit, but who knows how genuine he's being with her. Seems to me like he's only trying to build a friendship with Pomni to get back at Ragatha.

We'll see what happens in the next episode, I guess.

>>149138123
I promise you, Jax will do something that fucks up any notion of them being friends.

>>149138098
It was never looking down
These two have been a pair since day 1

>>149137895
I know that feeling, but my family and friends won't "let me"
>>149137992
It's an idea; ribbit abstracted no matter how hard jax tried to prevent >>149138123
You're a missing a few things. It was very explained that the others are just tired of her toxic positively and just want her to calm down. The problem is ragatha is neurotic and can't come down because she doesn't understand what's going on. She has to overcome her past issues to become a better adjusted person but she trapped herself in her trauma and won't let go. She's a victim of her own problems. No one hates her, they just want her to be real.
And also, point to where in the series so far pomni was close to ragatha and it wasnt just rags forcing herself. And the apology doesn't count, that was Pomni being a nice person.
>>149138134
Maybe on purpose, to protect her from something.
>>149138125
This is a likely theory. Him opening up to pomni doesn't hurt that, it could just show that he trusts her.

What did she do with it

>>149134880 (OP)
>[*deep inhale*]
>THE EPSTEIN FILES HAVE

>>149138146
huh, so the Tonari Animation studio shut down this year https://www.cbr.com/anime-studio-tonari-animation-shutdown/

>>149138294
>point to where in the series so far pomni was close to ragatha
I wasn't implying that they were already friends but that it doesn't make sense for Pomni to try and form a connection with Jax next
>she's fake
During the bar scene where the cast talked about their pasts she actually revealed most about herself whereas Jax just memed breaking bad. He basically had to be forced by Ragatha to be in a somewhat vulnerable position where his mask slipped just a little bit when abstracted acquaintance was mentioned.
Again, I'm not implying she's perfect but if you were transported to the circus she would be the obvious first/second choice to make friends with and Jax would be rightfully told to BTFO until he calms down

>>149138314
What does anyone do with anime figurines?

so this is my theory so far, in the next episodes someone (maybe zooble) will get caine enraged making him want to destroy the digital world (not them but the world), here is when the real superadmin ai owner appears and put caine in some kind of jail. This new ai is the real AM ai and makes everyone suffer in a loop for eternity, not much longer after that they somehow escape and now they are wanted through all the digital world (which is really big and that's why the ai is busy with other things and makes it hard to find the gang) so they separate (or get lost whatever) looking for craine

>>149138395
put them on a shelf on display

>>149138395
Make them go kissy kissy mwah

>>149138385
Pomni is making friends with jax because she pried him open, on purpose or not, and sees something in him worth getting to know.
With ragatha, honestly, if you went to a new place met someone that acted like her, it'd be a bit creepy and awkward. She's spent any screentime together forcing herself into pomni's space while acting like desperate cat lady. Her opening up about her mother doesn't change her behavior, it just explains why she's acting this way.
In fact, ask this: why she is so desperate to get her claws into pomni? The other three players clearly like her enough, so at the end she could have joined them, but instead she sulked off alone because her personal nemesis is being casual with someone she's only been treating as a child and a target since the pilot. What is she doing?

>>149138395
>>149138429
>place them in a glass jar on the mantle piece......

>"hey, pomni, wanna see how rabbits multiply? "
>proceeds to show off very impressive math skills

>then bangs her raw

What is it about her that makes guys fall head over heels for her?

>>149138544
>why she is so desperate to get her claws into pomni?

NTA, but Gangle specifically mentions in episode 4 that she finds it hard to tell when she's being genuine. This kind of implies that while she does love Ragatha, she's not exactly her first choice when it comes to hanging out with someone. Gangle probably doesn't seek Ragatha's company on her own at all. Jax definitely doesn't. Zooble might, but she's by far the most empathetic character in the show so it makes sense for her. Kinger, well he's crazy so you can't really count him at all. Pomni, well she hasn't known Ragatha for long enough to make that decision even if she ended up hanging with Jax after the episode. I don't think Pomni was actively making a "Jax vs Ragatha" choice here.

I get the feeling that Ragatha's friendship with the cast is entirely superficial, and she's desperate to make a real friend that actively wants to hang out with her. Now that there's new blood, she gets a new opportunity to make a real friend, rather than just being friendly.

>>149138630
It's a very simple formula. Spiky teeth + bad attitude x Pomni was already hot = Supreme Sexo

>>149138630
huh, kinda looks like she's wearing a diaper in the thumbnail

>>149138630
Men on the internet are very easily won over
It's like objectheads but for guys.

Jax is the only reason to watch the show.

>>149138410
reading too much

>>149134880 (OP)
I like it

>>149137297
8/10. It grew on me and I like the gang just hanging out. The Disappearing Guy bit got a laugh out of me and the Evil Team was fun (especially Evil Pomni)

>>149138098
Anyone have that art of Zooble pointing a gun at Jax because he was harassing Gangle?

>>149138544
> if you went to a new place met someone that acted like her, it'd be a bit creepy and awkward. She's spent any screentime together forcing herself into pomni's space while acting like desperate cat lady. why she is so desperate to get her claws into pomni?
What the fuck are you even talking about? I must've missed an episode. What moment are you referring to specifically when she's supposedly being overly pushy and not just trying to make friends? You're projecting this weird creepy behavior on her that I'm just not seeing. Maybe the antisocial zoomer generation could perceived as too much "in-your-face" but I see it as perfectly normal - you start of relationship with proper manners and positive outlook and overtime open yourself up.
>treating as a child and a target since the pilot.
She's the newcomer in a digital purgatory, of course she would try her best to try and look for positives in the absolutely-fucked-up situation she found herself in. Especially considering they're all aware that negative though potentially lead to abstraction.

>What is she doing?
I'm not surprised she was annoyed with Pomni for being friendly with Jax. Imagine a newcomer in your workplace chose to make friends with the abusive asshole who actively tries to make everyone lives harder instead of literally anyone else. Realistically Ragatha shoud've joined the other 3 but writers chose the more dramatic ending even if it made less sense.


The only satisfying explanation I could come up with Pomni's choice this episode is that while she would rather spend time with Ragatha due to her positivity she could've assumed that she would be fine if left alone( or with the rest of the group ) whereas it's obvious that Jax has no-one to talk to and could use one of Pomni's signature therapy talks.

>>149138615
>hey, pomni, wanna see how rabbits multiply
>undergoes mitosis

Has there ever been more or less than 5 characters in the digital circus? Caine being able to manipulate minds kinda calls the entire concept of abstraction into question, for all we know it’s just a way to throw a character away once they get boring

>>149139071
>Has there ever been more or less than 5 characters in the digital circus
Well there's 6, so, yes?

>>149138125
>Seems to me like he's only trying to build a friendship with Pomni to get back at Ragatha.

That's not what I'm seeing - I'm seeing Pomni break through his facade by accident by connecting with him, and his ongoing tantrum may lead him to push her away out of fear or cling to her out of transference. His actions are entirely explained by immature motivations, and he clearly hasn't processed any of his grief.

I don't see the manipulative mastermind Jaxfags OR Ragafags seem to see in him, I see an abrasive and childish defense mechanism that's fairly shallow and simple.

I've known people not that unlike Jax - they want to be seen as 'above it all' but also crave attention (because they aren't above anything at all), so they vocally and maliciously express disdain for everything. They care a suspicious amount about convincing people that they don't care.

If these people don't have a captive audience, they collapse completely because nobody wants anything to do with them. Online, these people love places like 4chan because they can't easily be avoided (outside of simply ignoring them), and even then they often get themselves temp banned or worse by being retarded. They HATE being blocked - it will cause them to crash out like almost nothing else can.

Ironically they struggle to hold up the facade in front of people who simply take them at face value (i.e. "I guess you're just like that... okay then.") because they crave the dopamine hit from getting a reaction, which their brain interprets as attention and themselves being in control of the interaction. The troll starves if you don't feed it.

>>149138123
The next episode is either going down the Ragatha abstraction route, or a climactic growth moment shared between her and Jax.
This episode isn’t equating Ragatha to Jax, it’s making it clear that Ragatha is in a massive quandary and doesn’t know where to turn.

>>149139185
>not Gangle
You people really need to stop believing Goose's lies.

To anyone who thinks Jax is opening up to Pomni only to get back at Ragatha, lets not forget that he had a simple, normal, cordial conversation with Pomni that HE initiated in episode 4. And it had absolutely nothing to do with Ragatha. She probably didn't even know the conversation happened.

>>149139286
It’s both.

>>149139322
That's why I said "only"

>>149136111
That why she is a loser

>>149138684
Hey we can also fall for object headed women's

In Jax’s mind, Gangle is on team Zooble, so she’s become a less easy victim and definitely not fun. Kinger is too out of it to tease or have fun with. Ragatha is the least fun because she’ll actively go on the offense to stop him (tied up, berating him). So, when Pomni first dropped he treated her like another Gangle, then she proved she wasn’t gonna be one, but his biggest risk was that Team Ragatha was gonna get stronger, so, he’s swooped in to try and get an amigo more on his side.

>>149139456
Jax’s affection for Evil Pomni shows me that ultimately he and regular Pomni aren’t a match. She’s getting a taste of the fun but he’ll fuck it up next episode badly.

>>149139456
I think this is a misreading of
A lot of things
But most particularly Ragatha "going on the offensive" - Ragatha's a pushover who can't stand to actually say hurtful things to him. She'll tell him off, but it'll never penetate his skin. The only thing she's ever said that seemed to genuinely hurt him was the time she accidentally brought up a dead guy, which she apologized for immediately, and the time she was high at Mcdonalds and said she hated him, which she'd never usually do. Someone who DOES actively go on the offensive is Zooble; the very first thing Zooble does in the series is choke Jax the fuck out for aggrevating her.

>>149138123
Yeah, I never got the feeling she was fake. Especially when she tells Pomni that she plays along in adventures for her own mental health in the first episode and also has the ability to bite back at Jax and defend others from his bullying. Pomni even thanked her at the end of the 3rd episode for being concerned for her wellbeing the entire time she's been there. Ragatha acts like a genuinely good person.

I get the feeling Gooseworx wanted to portray a character with toxic positivity and fakeness, but accidentally made a polite and kind girl who looks at the bright side of things. So instead, every character kinda calls her "fake" because... she needs to be for the story to happen. Then Gooseworx will probably make Ragatha admit how "fake" she's been, despite doing a terrible job at portraying it.

>>149139517
I think Jax misreads a lot of things.
Zooble seems to take a more detached/defensive posture while Ragatha is a more active/offensive posture. Zooble’s retaliation is more consequential but also easier to avoid, but unfortunately for Jax she’s taken Gangle under her wing.

>>149139533
>regularly forced to go on adventures where I'm shot at, blown up, stabbed, and thrown out of moving vehicles
>people occasionally just go mad, turn into eldritch abominations, and fucking die
>constantly have a woman in your ear going "But it's A-okay! You got this! Woohoo, it'll all turn out alright! Let's go, team!"
I think she's grate on me too.

>>149139583
Pic related is the guy doing the stabbing, blowing up, and throwing out of vehicles.

>>149139456
>he's playing 5D social chess bros trust me he's got a plan
Nah, dude's just flailing and Pomni happens to be the nearest rope to grab. The fact it's getting under Ragatha's skin is not something he's likely even consciously aware of - he'd likely act like he was if he figures it out at some point, though.
He's still very much targeting Gangle, Zooble or no Zooble. He doesn't target Zooble as much because they don't react the way he wants and can dish it out to an extent he can't handle - he's actually somewhat wary of them, which Jaxfags are too up his ass to see.
I get the distinct impression that the people who think he planned this would genuinely be convinced by him acting like he had if they met him IRL, which I can only really pity them for.

>>149139071
Currently there's 6 humans but I don't think there would be more than 8 at any given time depending how they stumble upon the game (ep5 implies Pomni found it while looking inside some abandoned building and seem to be that it hasn't happened too much for awhile since someone dropped in)

>Caine being able to manipulate minds kinda calls the entire concept of abstraction into question
> for all we know it’s just a way to throw a character away once they get boring
If something like that was revealed it would push Caine way up as a bad guy and goose has said first and foremost that he isn't evil. There's gotta be some addressing about the emory editing he does do but we don't know if it's really him or something through him that applies those changes upon the humans and he is unaware of it all

>>149139185
Goose lying is as common as a person breathing, so this is probably bullshit. I'm believing it anyways.

>>149139602
Who cares? It's not like any of 'em can die from it. I 100% understand Jax's mentality. If your only goal is to not become abstracted, who cares about literally anything? Go wild. Do whatever the fuck you want.

>>149139625
I can understand his mentality while at the same time acknowledging that he’s a much larger cancer on the group than the girl who impotently tries to raise spirits.

>>149139602
Yep.
Though it's worth noting, I don't think Pomni has ever, ever called Ragatha fake; why would she? She just got here. We as the audience are right there with her in terms of how long we've seen the circus, and to us, Ragatha's behaviour is still novel and not grating. But Gangle, Jax, Zooble? Everyone else has been dealing with this for YEARS.

>>149139625
>stab someone
>"Hey, I've got some bandages right here - don't be a baby, you won't DIE or anything."

>>149139625
Are you trying to ride his dick this way because he's not real and you're never going to suck it? He doesn't even have one, anon.

>>149139666
>>"Hey, I've got some bandages right here - don't be a baby, you won't DIE or anything."

Yes. Exactly.

>>149139625
>Who cares? It's not like any of 'em can die from it.
Exactly, so why wouldn't they have the attitude of "let's go team we will be alright in the end".
Would you prefer the "WERE ALL GOING TO DIE" or the complete antipathy of Zooble "I don't care about any of this none of this matters"

Ragatha has the most healthy attitude out of all of them (assuming Pomni is wrong and there really is no point in looking for an exit / escape plan )

>>149139604
There’s a scene in the episode where he directly rubs Ragatha’s face in how easily he’s connecting to Pomni.

>>149139717
>the complete antipathy of Zooble "I don't care about any of this none of this matters"
I think this is a slight misread of Zooble - antipathy towards the circus, empathy towards the people in it. Even some towards Caine, albeit mostly frustration there.
Zooble's animosity towards Jax is a simple "he's potentially causing more damage than Caine is right now and he should know better (whereas Caine doesn't)" thing.

The thing is I feel like all of the characters and their motivations in TADC are really obvious and straightforward, so I'm not sure if everyone else is too deep in their own speculation, or if I'M the retarded one.

>>149137297
uhh 8/10. 2nd best episode I think maybe the 1st.

>>149139839
People are trying to create deeper meanings behind what they're watching. Happens all the time.

>>149139839
Ragatha is incomprehensible to irony poisoned/cynical people. They want nothing more than for her to be the worst of them all.

>>149137297
6/10
Still enjoyable and entertaining like the other episodes, but I like the others more

>>149139781
The thing is though it's kind of ambiguous when you can skip an adventure. We know Zooble supposedly managed to miss out on a few but simultaneously it's not like we're shown Cain asking them IF they want to participate and he just teleports them in.
If they are forced to participate they might as well try and enjoy them somewhat. And out of the ones we saw so far all of them could theoretically be done as a team without splitting up so it's not like they're missing out on spending time together

>>149139730
...Uh, anon, no there isn't. Ragatha inadvertently admits she's worried Pomni's gonna turn out like him, and Jax makes fun of her for it because he's desperate for any interaction that makes him feel more in control.

Neither of them is connecting to Pomni in that scene, Ragatha's arguing over "influencing her" like a parent arguing over raising a child, and Jax is using any weakness he sees in Ragatha to try and get under her skin for kicks. The whole point of the scene is that they're BOTH ignoring Pomni for a verbal slapfight.

There is no galaxy brain under those long purple ears.

>>149139928
Anon, go watch the bar scene again and pay close attention to how Jax emphasizes the word "friend" as he talks to Ragatha. Then pay attention to her reaction.

>>149139928
Wrong scene, this is in the bar.
>This is the beginning of a budding friendship, right Ragatha?
He’s not as unaware as you think he is.

>>149139928
>>149139946
>>149139958
>Ragatha desperately trying to mother Pomni, who famously hates being infantilized just because she's small and weak
>Jax forming a fast friendship with Pomni out of legitimate curiosity, which doubles as a nice opposite to get back at Ragatha, who he famously dislikes
It's a bold strategy, let's see if it pays out for him

>>149139666
it's more like stabbing someone with a stage knife where the blade just pops into the handle when you stab someone with it.
also, it's a video game where the stakes for getting stabbed are at most 15 seconds in the respawn queue since this isn't a Sword Art Online "you die in the game you die in real life!" setup, but rather a "you live in the video game now"

>>149140017
It's still painful. Not AS painful as in real life, but, still not good.
Unless you think harming people without their consent is okay so long as it doesn't leave a mark

>>149140017
Intentionally causing people pain is a bad thing, actually.

>>149139839
>>149139858
I'm trying to guess where it's headed based on what's going on and what we're shown and what I've learned about story telling construction.
Some of these other folks, God bless 'em, are going at it way to seriously.

my slutty wife.

>>149140044
>what I've learned about story telling construction.

Considering Goose is the primary writer, you can probably throw most of that knowledge out the window.

>>149140017
Pomni and Kinger were literally sent to hell because of Jax messing around

>>149140044
Same. I see a few angles, but I’m betting on no abstractions rather than a back half turn to action/life or death stakes/drama.

>>149140041
>>149140043
>>149140069
Eh, they're fine. Besides, it was still just something caine made. It's literally vr games, just very extreme.
Jax's line about how they all take the place too seriously is important to how he decides to treat the place. He thinks if they just loosen up and took advantage of their dire situation, they'd be better off.
>>149139928
>>149140000
Nice quads
Anyway, there's a reason not worry about pomni befriending jax; she said she can think on her own. She's bonding on her terms and isn't gonna let him manipulate her. Unless he's really good at it.

>>149140223
>They’re fine
Not your call, nor Jax’s.

>>149140223
I’m not worried about Pomni befriending Jax from my vantage point, Jax will screw it up.

>>149140223
>He thinks if they just loosen up and took advantage of their dire situation, they'd be better off.
And what makes Jax, a known -22yo may i remind you- liar and menace extraordinarie, think his line of thinking is the correct and true way to survive the circus? He is just another method of coping like the others, there's no 100% true way to win in there and the show has made the phrase "different strokes for different folks" pretty clear regarding that.

Just because he THINKS everyone is taking shit too seriously when getting hurt by him or Caine or whatever, it doesn't mean he is the one in the right for not taking shit personally, although even he doesn't even comply to his own line of thinking because he did get emotionally vulnerable over being reminded of an abstracted friend, when he should've just "gotten over it" by now going by his own mentality that people think he has

>>149137232
>We're going to have an entire era of fan art of Ragatha getting cucked.
Ragatha fans and ButtonBlossom shippers are going through the fucking Battle of the Somme right now.
>Ragatha deserves to get cu-
SHUT IT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch/PRS6lz2WiAs

I have to be honest here. I am not ready for what is going to happen to her in the next episode or later.

>>149140415
My interpretation is everyone is a little right and a little wrong, the path the show is going on is learning to coexist, take the good parts of each philosophy while trying to mitigate or work through the bad. Jax and Ragatha both have viable ways of interfacing with the situation, there just needs to be some give and take.

>>149140454
Evil Pomni is the signal that Funnybunny is not happening.

>>149140415
Brandishing a philosophy to try and cope with a desperate situation and it's not really working while he's putting up a front to protect himself.
It's almost like he's complex or something

>>149140521
But what about evilfunnyfunnybunny?

>>149140454
I'm a Ragatha fan, but a bunnydoll enjoyer, so this cuckoldry is doing a lot for me. The DRAMA.

>Today's adventure: Escapade in the crazy cuck chair!

>>149140550
Jax’s first great pairing honestly.

>>149140559
I really don’t like Funnybunny (for Jax or Ragatha) but I get why it’d be fun. Technically still a window of opportunity for it, it’s certainly a way to resolve it (or ratchet up drama further if they had a thing in the past).

>>149139185
Is it true that she give out the best hug?

>>149140691
The only one who could possibly compete is Gangle because her physicality is conducive to a full body hug like a snake, but come on Ragatha has gotta be soft and fluffy, built for hugs.

>>149140521
None of the ships are happening, that's not what the show is about. The most we're getting is bait.

>>149140734
I also mean as close friends, unless Jax has a character shift.

Next episode hinges a lot on Ribbit, hard to speculate.

Hmmmmm

>>149140857
>Jax won't share his background
>won't show what happens when he holds his breath
>would be funny if he became a tumblr sexy man based on what happens
I don't know what to think at this point.

>>149140912
>Afraid of corn

>>149140923
Oh yeah and afraid of corn and over reacts to having to wear a maid dress.

>>149140501
Probably the most correct interpretation here, though there's also the "they can't reconcile the differences in approach in time and everything collapses at the slightest external pressure" ending.

I've said this before, but I don't see this sticking a solid landing with 4 episodes left. We've got a lot of interpersonal setup, but some of the relationships are still a bit weakly built (Zooble and Ragatha, Gangle and Pomni - we also only have Gangle and Ragatha from Gangle's perspective, Ragatha hasn't really expressed anything about how she feels about Gangle). Kinger's fatherly and kind when he's lucid, but normally a non-entity (he's barely part of the cast, which is the fate of characters written as "lolrandumb" in a dramatic work), so we're basically working with a cast of 5.

And now shit is meant to begin hitting the fan. I wonder if there's enough groundwork there - in fandoms like this, a lot of the "groundwork" suggested online are entirely hallucinated fan theories, so I'm just talking about what's explicit in the show.

I'm enjoying the flight, but some cracks are showing in the wings (the fandom reaction to Ragatha in this episode has been nothing short of retarded - to an extent, that's gonna be on Goose for failing to effectively communicate intent) and I don't think the landing gear is gonna deploy in time.

I've got my parachute in my lap, but for now I'm happy to ride this plane to the ground. I'll probably see next episode if I feel like putting it on. Tonal shifts can do a lot of damage in that regard, especially this far in. I'm more than a little concerned.

>>149137297
5/5, best episode yet

>>149137297
2/5 Not enough Evil Pomni.

>>149140968
Most bets are that kinger is main piece in all this and the show saving him for a reveal
At least point, some people think zooble gonna be the one to drop the ball and make caine go nuclear.

>>149141002
post yfw Zooble calls Caine a doublekinger

>>149140968
I’m not sweating much, but yeah next episode will be a sign of things to come. My interpretation so far is the show acts (intentionally or not) as a response to Sartre’s “no exit”, where the theme is essentially “hell is other people”. So far TADC seems to take the more optimistic approach, that it doesn’t have to be, if the effort is put in. It’s still possible we get a cinematic/climactic escape the circus conclusion but my sense of the themes of the story, Pomni’s strength as an MC and the conflicts that have arisen, I see a message of harmony.

>>149140968
>Tonal shifts can do a lot of damage in that regard
I've seen so many other stories that were going along fine completely destroy everything they built up because of this. I'm ngl I'm super nervous.

>>149141002
>zooble gonna be the one to drop the ball and make caine go nuclear
It's going to be interesting for sure but also frustrating because it's going to make Zooble seem pants on head retarded after what she told Jax at Spudsy's

>>149137297
5/5 second best after the pilot.

>>149140968
Tonal shifts are great, I don’t get the complaint.

Any lovecraftian kino that's similar to TADC?

>>149141270
What do you mean by lovecraftian?

>>149141270
Most of the stuff I associate with TADC is more niche and harder to recommend.

>>149141002
I don't know if I'd say "most" about ANY bets in this fandom, but I'd also say for the "Kinger is the key to all of this" bets... I don't see that being a very satisfying direction. Kinger is used as a gag about 90% of the time. He's barely treated like a person by the writing OR the cast; it's a difficult archetype to work into interpersonal drama, and since we've got most of the series now... we already know that's exactly what most of the series is as a whole.

Is about an hour and 20 minutes more of TADC enough to recontextualize his character and make people care about both him and the recontextualization between the gags? Is losing the gags to facilitate the tone shift going to resonate with people? Is cutting down the space of feasible fan theories something the fandom can survive if the reality turns out broadly unsatisfying?

I don't just see a ton of paths for it missing the hype here, I see a ton of paths for it potentially missing badly enough to collapse the fandom. None of these popular things are EVER too big to fail, that should be abundantly clear to people by now.

>>149141151
It's not inherently good or bad, but generally you want stronger setup than an eerie dialogue-free stinger. I think Goose may have expected people to freak out more over the hiding mannequin than they have - likely a casualty of most assuming it was a meaningless gag.

When it's done poorly, people notice and do not like it, because the audience is implicitly making a deal with the creator to exchange their time and attention for something that entertains them. If the tonal shift fails to satisfy the desire they came to the work with, the work has failed to entertain. People will notice it subconsiously even if they can't articulate or even recognize why exactly they suddenly feel like "Huh, this isn't as good as I was hoping. Where is the show I came here for?" They're likelier to just put it down and move on.

>>149141361
i understand your points but i also think youre being unfair to kinger and maybe too pessimistic to the show as a whole

>>149141361
>Bad things may happen
I mean, yeah? So far so good though. I don’t blame Goose on Ragatha’s reception at all, it’s a unique character issue and there are a lot of dumb people out there. Don’t see why you’d think Dr. Football is more than another mystery.

>>149141308
You know, existential horror and circumstances beyond comprehension

>>149141351
Hit me

>>149141488
Between the way people are behaving about Ragatha this episode and many not fucking comprehending that Caine was talking about the adventure npcs running too long, I think about half the fandom is full on retarded or incapable of grasping context clues and complex sentence comprehension.

>>149141488
>Bad things may happen
Are you going to provide anything more substantive or is that really all you got from any of that?

Cynicism isn't pessimism, anon.

>>149141514
nta but have you seen paranoia agent or paprika? Tekkonkinkreet is good too

>>149138123
People here are just emotionally stunted and can't recognize that Ragatha is a parental abuse victim. What they see as "toxic positivity" is a coping mechanism from childhood - one of the ways abused children cope is by learning to manage the emotions of the people around them.

>>149141590
Haven't seen Paranoia Agent or Tekkonkinkreet. I'll look into them both, thanks

>>149141663
>Boobs
It's an uncertain sort of feel

>>149141680
paranoia agent is closer to what youre asking for, but tekkonkinkreet is sortve in the same vein

>>149141663
boobs are too low practically stomach height.

>>149141663
>Booba
No thanks, I want the bean bod

>>149141514
>Cruelty Squad
>LSD: Dream Emulator
>Backrooms Fanlore
>Weirdcore/Dreamcore/Liminal Space Fandom
>Evangelion
>Blame!
>Higurashi: When They Cry
>Angel Beats
>Haibane Renmei
>Five Character in Search of an Exit
>Drifting Classroom
>The Neverhood

>>149141361
In a little less than 10 minutes of screentime, kinger was reveled to have a lucid side he's actually a smart, caring, introspective, fatherly type who's a computer engineer who knows his way around guns and is a sad widower. If he's not meant to play a larger role in the show's story, then his character expansion in epi3 was pointless and misleading. The writers are deliberately keeping him goofy so that it'll a swerve when the time comes and he has to do something.
I know this show isn't supposed to be predictable, but in the general, greater scope, it's not that subversive.

>>149141584
I mean yeah that’s your thesis statement. Something bad may happen, all I can counter with is something good might happen. There’s plenty of show left.

>>149141768
I’ve always wondered if Five Characters in Search of an Exit was an inspiration for TADC as well given one of the focus characters is a clown

>>149141719
I appreciate the suggestions all the same.

>>149141768
Thanks for this list anon, I'll work my way through it, though I'm already familiar with LSD: Dream Emulator

Gangle Rape

>>149141768
>>Higurashi: When They Cry
Oh somebodies in for a fun time.

>>149141803
There are some significant parallels, I could see it either way. Goose has eclectic taste.

>>149137943
The centipede ruined the joke for me.

>>149141768
>>149141861
We should add Elfin Leid while we're at it.

>>149141819
careful what you wish for

>>149141887
Kinda, just like Saya no Uta is kinda brushing up against some of what’s going on.
On the other extreme you have stuff like Toy Story, I Spy, Mind’s Eye series, A Town Called Panic, Where’s Waldo, etc.

>>149141887
NTA, but how does that fit the bill? I watched it when I was a kid but can't remember too much.

>>149141819
Gangle Smugness

>>149141918
Hmm what about Petshop of Horrors? That's bordering on Lovcraftian horror but with a moral for each episode.

>>149141944
Can’t confirm, on the backlog.

>>149141928
Eldritch horror that cant be controlled that has a tragic story. Slightly romance heavy though so I know that can be a turn off for some.

>>149141834
Has anyone drawn Pomni getting cucked by Evil Pomni and Gummigoo?
Or Evil Pomni being with Evil Gummigoo?

>>149141978
Gummicucking might break Pomni

>>149141963
Huh, I really don't remember enough of it to even discuss it with you.

>>149141978
>NTR shit
>In MY circus
Die

>>149141978
>evil pomni tries to cuck pomni by grinding on a tied to a chair 3rd gummigoo, who has no idea what's going one.
>regular pomni just shrugs and leaves, having moved on, heading to jax's room
>evil pomni starts swearing while licking lemon lime gator tears.

>>149142060
nigger people were posting Jax cucking Ragatha before and I didn't see you bitch about that

>>149141768
>Weirdcore
Good call out, even if unintentional.

>>149142102
>Evil Pomni is just Jaxified Pomni

>>149142095
Bold of you to suggest I saw that in the first place.
NTR shit is, in any context, NTR shit.

>>149142130
Except Evil Pomni is athletic

The overspeculative fandom VS Goose’s shitposts.

>>149142199
She and the others didn't even get a chance to bat but at the very least they kinda were a more coordinated team from the few bits they got

This nigga gay as fuck

>>149142203
Oh I like this one

>>149142232
I love Goose fucking with the theory autists.

>>149137297
It's my favorite so far.
I think the charm of this show are the characters, and putting them in different settings makes them all more interesting.

>>149142273
those the eyes of a SLUT, no wonder Jax wants to have Pomni attached to his hip

>>149142232
Just goes to show you how lorefag are insufferable and goose just rolling with it.

>>149142232
Some People never learn
Reminds me of the autists out there who overthink a random joke on the Simpsons cuz they think it has deeper meaning.

Thanks for Dressgatha.

>>149142232
Also confirmed that the lack of other animal forms was due to asset budget.

>>149142327
Kinger looks Amish

>>149142232
I love goose's approach to insufferable lorefags. They just don't give no fuck

b-bee

>>149142258
les kasso hello kitty specifically.

>>149142157
Is the third page done yet?

>>149142232
Don’t believe their lies

She’s jar-ready.

>>149142402
I love Caine's bees

>>149142469
MRS PRESIDENT GET DOWN

Caine and A bubble

>>149142273
Jaxfags better hope that’s a chick, or else his gaydar isn’t just from trolling.

>>149142538
I really hope that this isn’t the extent of the Cain and Abel naming convention. Also, I’m calling it now, they’re going to play up someone abstracting in the next couple of episodes only for Caine to interrupt it by finally going haywire after all the rejections of “his” adventures, since that’s what he believes he’s only good at

>>149142582
But I want Jax to be gay.

>>149142611
>I’ve never seen you so upset
>What, I thought you would like this

>>149142615
I want you to be gay with the business end of a running chainsaw

>Jax does anything
>Gangle: AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE

>>149142327
>we were robbed of red dress Gangle
this episode is now 0/10

>>149142168
>>149142528
I love the scared dog to little menace that these fanarts do with Pomni

>>149142742
To be fair, everyone in the episode was black and white so it's not like it mattered what color the dress was

>>149142582
Wait, do people not just assume every character in this show is bi?

>>149142781
Pomni is the straightest girl in fiction.

I liked this part

>>149142856
Yeah it was comfy.

>>149142854
She'll be in a throuple soon enough.

>>149142856
This whole scene is probably the best in the series so far, honestly.

this episode had too much sexual tension in it

>>149142856
I just like seeing the characters hang out, wish there was time for more of that.

>>149142938
They have no genitalia and likely have zero sex drive. What sexual tension is there to be had??

>>149143011
Gangle's invisible cleavage

>>149143011
>and likely have zero sex drive

>>149143097
>I have no muff and I must cream

>>149143203
It is kinda funny to imagine that some of the humans in the digital circus went insane and abstracted because they had no way to relieve their sex drive.

>>149142232
The lorefag is unable to comprehend fun

>>149143216
>Ribbit died from being too horny

>>149143097
>>149143203
>>149143216
imagine how much that would suck. you still feel the need to relieve your sexual urges somehow but can do literally nothing that would help.

>>149143097
If Jax had genitals he would've cummed instantly after this

>>149143216
>>149143583
Realistically, if you don't have the organs, then you wouldn't have the chemicals that stimulate your brain to make you want to use them.

>>149143735
Realistically, your brain can't control a digital body either, so that line of thinking is leading you nowhere.
But also, people who have had their genitals surgically removed still get horny.

>>149143769
How? The entire reason we get aroused is the primitive need to procreate. If you lack the equipment to procreate, then how would you feel the need to use the equipment?

>>149143735
>>149143821
NTA but you don't seem to understand how libido works biologically. Neither chemical nor physical castration actually fully suppresses libido, as it's still ultimately a CNS thing (not a result of possessing given genitalia; your body can make the relevant hormones in more than one place, for one thing).

Castrated dogs still hump things, y'know.

>>149143821
Sexual arousal is not just a thing that happens to your genitals, it happens to your brain as well, and for that you just need hormones for it to happen. And even without your sexual equipment your body still produces hormones related to sexual activity, just in smaller amounts.

>>149143821
Because arousal is more than just your bits getting excited. It also involves hormones throughout your body controlled by your pituitary gland located near your brain

>>149143638
Gangle would've also added a diaper to the ensemble as a layer of chastity

>>149137895
To me I feel like losing Ribbit was due to Jax acting like Ragatha around them and Jax thinking that made Ribbit abstract so he goes on completely different extreme with Gangle. It is interesting after all how Jax NEVER threatens to kill Gangle despite her making him wear the maid outfit. He just chases her, but he actively threatens Zooble, Ragatha and Evil Jax with that. People he REALLY doesn't like. And he seems to oddly respect her more than Kinger because he assumed Kinger would abstract next and not her.

Which makes me feel like Jax is weirdly attached to Gangle and given the Ribbit thing he may genuinely want her to not abstract and on some level cares for her, but goes about it in completey weird and deranged way. Or maybe he tried to be like Ragatha with Ribbit, but one time they snapped at them and that caused Ribbit to abstract and now they got themselves to be mean all the time to never cause this again maybe. I dunno.

I ship Ribbun so I have my bias here, but I do feel like there is something going on with Jax's feelings on Gangle. At least he doesn't want her abstract and/or doesn't believe she would.

>>149144091
I do not in any sense get the feeling that Jax was ever even remotely like Ragatha. Perhaps he wasn't as much of a dick, but there's no way he goes from "uwu nice boy" to "literal piece of shit" like that

>>149144159
Not with everyone, but with Ribbit specifically. Like him treating... her or him with some level of niceness, but they broke that at some point and that caused Ribbit to abstract. Maybe something along the lines of Jax genuinely trying to be good and nice, but them fucking it up in the end which made him go off the deep end.

I will FUCK Ragatha!
I will FUCK Gangle!
I will FUCK Zooble!
… I will NOT fuck Pomni!

>>149144159
My assumption was that he's always been a bit of an abrasive dick to people, but that he also got close and friendly to people at the same time. Like his attitude was less mean spirited and more like banter. But Ribbit abstracting probably made him get rid of any of the friendliness he had which left just the mean attitude.

>>149144181
Considering we literally do not know a single thing about Jax and Ribbit's relationship, other than thay they're friends, it's incredibly difficult to speculate how that might have gone down. There aren't even any hints or clues to glean from. Any theories as to their relationship and the nature of Ribbit's abstraction are complete ass pulls.

>>149144194
What about Jax?

>>149144181
>>149144195
Ragatha's “Not anymore” comment makes me think that there was a point Jax was at least a bit nicer to everyone around him but became colder after Ribbit abstracted, as it seems Ragatha wasn’t talking about Ribbit in that moment but rather herself

>>149144227
>Ragatha wasn’t talking about Ribbit in that moment but rather herself

Yeah, it could be seen as deflection, but she DOES imply that she wasn't talking about Ribbun. And I kinda believe her.

>>149144237
>ribbun

Ribbit* fuck I think I have TADC brainrot

Frankly, I like the idea that Ribbit and Jax were both the dickheads of the circus, and one of them was the mentor who taught the other about how to pick locks and throw rocks just right, like Huckleberry Finn.

>>149144250
Nahnahnah. It's good. Accept Ribbun in your heart!

>>149144296
Sorry, but I'm a bit more of a FunnyBunny kinda guy. Ribbun is definitely good though.

>>149144091
>Jax NEVER threatens to kill Gangle
>Jax is weirdly attached to Gangle
he shoots and eats her on safari, are you actually blind

>>149141727
Yeah, they put them X distance below the head, instead of below the shoulders.

>>149144318
Same.

>>149144374
I don't think he even ate anything, he just bit her a bit. And he most likely would do it with everyone else there. But when he is genuinely upset about something he just chases Gangle, but he goes down to genuinely wishing for death to characters he seems the most negative towards. When to him it's not a joke or a game.

>>149142327
I love how Gangle is canonically thicker than Ragatha. A literal ribbon.

>>149144481
I don't think Jax actually hates or even dislikes anyone. I think he's just trying to not get too close to anyone just so he doesn't get hurt again.

>>149143880
>>149143882
>>149143905
Not to drag this out, but this subject made interested enough to go looking and here's something found
https://www.quora.com/Can-castrated-men-have-sex-And-what-are-the-long-term-effects-of-castration

>>149144374
No one can actually get hurt or die. He was trolling.

>>149144512
>so he doesn't get hurt again.

Well then, that didn't fucking work very well now did it?

Jax will abstract next.

>>149144566
He's got Pomni now, he'll be fine.

>>149144571
Nah, he's going to fuck it up. He's Jax.

>>149138630
Powerful goblin girl energy

>>149144575
She's cracked his shell. She's not gonna let him get away with nothing.
>>149144318
>>149144441
>>149144571
Allhailthequeenuwu must be in the hospital after this episode

>>149142232
>What did Goose mean by this?! Is there a hidden message?! I've gotta come up with a theory!
>"hehe evil zooble will be a dumbass"

>>149144635
Genuinely the hero the indie scene needed
Mystery is good, but I'm tired of this schizotheorizing shit

>>149144601
Then I'll remind you one more time. He's Jax.

He WILL fuck it up.

zooble is the worst character

>>149144647
Even if you do enjoy it when your fans obsess over the lore and talk about it all the time there's really only two proper ways of dealing with fans when they ask you to clarify about things.
1. The Toby Fox method, where you just ignore your fans entirely
2. The Goose method, where you just fuck with them.
Trying to help your fans establish certain things as canon just kills the mystery for everyone, and that's a layer of enjoyment that's now gone.

>>149144682
Refer to the chart, actually.

Why is she pretending she's not falling for Jax?

>>149142612
I'm still on the "Caine from ENIAC" train. What Bubble is exactly is something that hasn't really been explored or even hinted at, so for now I can easily file away Bubble as Goose self-inserting a shitposter.

>>149144749
She seems to understand that being friendly with Jax makes Ragatha upset. Especially after the argument that happens in the dugout.

pomni and evil pomni should both rape jax while he's in the maid dress

>>149144749
She doesn’t want to destroy Ragatha's dreams of them being together
>>149144751
I think his name comes from ENIAC, but the fact that the Portuguese dub changed his name to Caim (Biblical Cain's name in some translations) with permission from Goose makes me lean into there being an Abel/Able as well. That, and the company being named C&A seems oddly suspicious and too specific to just be a background thing

>>149144749
Pomni's hair looks really pretty, I wish we got to see a side or back view

>>149144818
Wrong Michael Kovach character

>>149144512
There's exactly one person in the circus Jax has expressed genuine concern for. It's Gangle.

Next episode is supposedly Jax-focused, so him being more comfortable around Pomni may be as simple as "he hasn't had time to fuck this friendship up yet, next episode is when we watch him push things too far and isolate himself."

I am curious how Jax even knows about "the figurine thing" in the first place - Gangle had to have shared it with him at some point.

Jax reminds me of exactly how I was in high school and that makes me cringe

>>149144853
>HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of women want to fuck teenage you
How's it feel?

>>149144848
>spoiler

Jax has keys to everyone's room. He probably busted in while it was happening.

>>149144848
>I am curious how Jax even knows about "the figurine thing" in the first place
He has keys to everyone's rooms.

>>149144848
>2nd spoiler
That, or he walked in on her doing whatever she was doing and she begged him not to tell anyone

>>149144862
There's a 0% chance that anon was a tall bunny man with an attractive voice. The most unrealistic part of Jax is him not looking or sounding like your average sperg.

>>149144862
Trust me. Being an asshole did not make women want to fuck me except that one girl but she ended up breaking up with me before I could go all the way with her

>>149144864
>>149144872
>>149144880
I gotta be honest I always assumed it was something she'd done IRL - I doubt Caine even knows what an "anime figurine" is.

>>149144892
Bro he literally created an anime world based on Gangle's suggestion that they have an adventure in a slice of life anime. Caine knows what anime is.

>>149144892
She can draw in here, I assume she can make anime figures too.

>>149144899
>Caine knows what anime is
Don’t tell him about SAO, he might get a bit confused

>>149144883
>>149144884
Fair enough
Would probably be good for a fuck though. I have arcane knowledge on this subject..

>>149144682
thats a weird way to spell jax's name

>>149144917
Shut up Ragatha, you have no real friends and you're going to abstract because of it.

>>149144917
Anon, what do you mean? They clearly meant to spell Gummigoo

>>149144751
>What Bubble is exactly is something that hasn't really been explored or even hinted at
We have this at least.

>>149144688
>The Toby Fox method, where you just ignore your fans entirely
Then the Mike event happened.
Toby also fuck with the fanbase.

>>149144751
I always figured Bubble was the Id to Caine's superego.

>>149144953
That's true, though it was an ingame thing and not him fucking with them on twitter, so it's kind of a grey area.

>>149144928
my mistake

>>149144953
>Then the Mike event happened.
Dare I ask?

>>149144945
>Bubble is another AI created by Caine
That’s interesting, you’d think Bubble would be one of the NPCs created by C&A directly. It’s almost as if Caine made him to replace someone else that’s supposed to be there instead

>>149144899
>Bro he literally created an anime world based on Gangle's suggestion
A world that seemed to be completely devoid of humans, which the figurine would presumably be of.

I think >>149144904 is more likely than Caine both knowing how and providing Gangle with an anime figurine (would she ever be confident enough to ask him for one, even with her comedy mask?). I guess we'll find out if we ever see inside Gangle's room.

>>149144682
Zooble is out there pissing off god about his shitty work and generating the whole massive conflict of the show on her own, the least we can do before her untimely death at the hands of a crazy AI is appreciate her efforts

Also their design is neat, I'm starting to see why that architecture student wants in on them

>>149144970
Tha reminds me the only time Toby broke his "not interacting with the fanbase on social media" thing was the MatPat incident.

>>149144987
You mean Able I'm guessing?

>>149145009
>ywn be so retarded that you drag out the Dog from his thousand year slumber to tell you off

>>149145009
...There was a MattPat incident?

>>149144848
>How
He is a fucking snooping perv

>>149145027
You can pretty easily find it by just googling "toby fox mattpat drama".

Heh Goose is cool.

>>149144953
>>149145009
What's with toby fox and all of this apparently separate incidents?

>>149144985
There's this character constantly mentioned in game, Mike. No one knew who this Mike entity was, so people made un really insane theories, fake leaks and other stuff involving whatever Pluey was and Woody from Toy Story. Let's say Toby took full advantage of all this mess and made a completely hilarious optional boss fight referencing many of these Mike theories.

I think we never got an evil Gangle clone because we already saw them evil or because it would just be a repeated bit but with the sad mask as the default.

>>149145034
this comic will never not be hilarious to me

>>149145011
Yep, though now I’m curious if the Sun and Moon were also created by Caine or not. His reactions to them make me lean towards the latter

>>149145041
The Mike thing is just a playful nod to theories some of the fanbase had for deltarune that he added to the game, it's not some sort of drama incident.

>>149145051
F R I E N D
I N S I D E
M E

>>149144945
>>149144987
>I do love Bubble, but he is more like...a pet to me

Ragatha and Jax needed two episodes to get resolved and the fanbase loses their minds.
Rewatched the episodes all the way through again with full context. Both Jax and Ragatha really care what other people think of them, a lot.

>>149145056
On that note I still find is really weird that Caine had to name himself. We've talked about it before but seriously, no large company doesn't name their main project, that's always like the first step even before a character/AI is designed and modeled. Caine should have been given a name and the only reason I can think of him not being given one is if he wasn't made by humans and is a virus or some other spontaneous amalgamation like how AM became sentient.

>>149145092
they're both sides of the same mindset, they need attention from other yet they approach it in virtually opposite ways. They're very similar somehow. They should fuck.

>>149145092
The aura farmer vs the girl scout.

>>149145105
sorry about that last part, i allowed Bubble to take control of my mind.

>>149145092
I said this in a previous thread, but Jax and Ragatha really are two sides of the same coin. They both seem to come from somewhat similar backgrounds given Jax's reaction to Ragatha's backstory and both of them trying to forge a connection with Pomni in order to not feel alone. Honestly, if they didn’t have their social barriers they feel the need to put up, I could totally see them being the best of friends no problem

>>149145105
>They should fuck.
the bitching going on during would be off the charts

>>149145105
>they should fuck
He's beginning to see...

>>149145105
They should not do that, it kinda ruins the thing both have going on. They should reconcile though, Ragatha could let her hair down a little and Jax could be better with the others.

Group vote to make Jax mentally retarded. NOW.

>>149145056
Im inclined to think he also made them on the same code he made bubble which is why they are as friendly/easygoing to him as they are -maybe because of them being main hub NPCs they need to be in order to be approached by the players in needed case-, unlike the other npcs who seem to be coded to think of him as god and not a coworker/friend

>>149145142
>That problem has already been solved

>>149145122
>>149145135
>Pomni is forced to sit in the cuck chair because they both seek her approval

>>149145142
>Nothing changed

>>149145140
>They should not do that
FAGGOT DETECTED

>>149145147
I think people read too much into the “Caine makes NPCs think he’s God” thing, I think he just did that to match the medieval setting and to give an excuse as to why the players are on the adventure in the first place

>>149145142
>Jax tries to protest but the heavy drool has already begun

>>149145156
>>149145175
>>149145193
>you are already retarded

>>149145178
There’s nothing gayer than turning Jax into a loving softie cuddling Ragatha or worse, Ragatha getting plowed by an unrepentant asshole. The ship is retarded, it doesn’t do their character’s justice. Gentle truce into mutual respect at best.

>>149145147
>why they are as friendly/easygoing to him
>a coworker/friend
I like the idea that Sun and Moon see him as a coworker or at least a nice boss. It's cute. I wish Caine would acknowledge the Moon trying to ask him out.

>>149145202
>turning Jax into a loving softie cuddling
Nigga i never said that, you faggot.

>>149145192
Don't forget the Gloink Queen pointedly called him god too, I do think it's intentionally pointed out since it happened more than once.

>>149145216
I gave you both variants of the ship, fucking over Jax’s character or Ragatha’s.

>>149145101
Maybe the program he was originally had a different designated name and once he gained sentience/properly became active he decided to name himself something better or more professional sounding because that was the original reason he gave himself his current name iirc. And it's not even a name it's an acronym it just happens to be an actual name irl which probably was fascinating to him kek

Maybe his original program name was just "The Ringmaster" or something vague and impersonal so he took the whole aesthetic from it and started himself from scratch so he would be taken seriously

>>149145208
I missed that she was asking him out too on my first viewing. I thought she was going to suggest letting the players pick the adventure more often, since they seem happy when they can do so
>>149145219
Did she? I know she said God will be Gloinks but I don’t think she was referring to Caine specifically

>>149143097
What the fuck is the issue with 2023? Are they really that scared of puritanical zoomers?

>>149145142
I can't believe Zooble voted to groom Jax into a femboy maid.

>>149145250
>Maybe his original program name was just "The Ringmaster" or something
That's a good idea, maybe it was something like that and he wasn't satisfied and the developers were like ok little guy what do you want to be called.

>>149145253
>I don’t think she was referring to Caine specifically
Pretty sure she was talking about him but you are correct we don't know 100% for sure.

>>149145208
>I wish Caine would acknowledge the Moon trying to ask him out.
No flirting nor romance allowed in the workplace thank you very much, this a very professional circus

>>149145263
>scared of puritanical zoomers
they make death threats like its going out of style and dox people for fun so yes

>>149145263
I honestly have no idea what Goose is referring to with 2023, Zoomers aren’t that puritanical and I don’t think any of the jokes seemed poorly aged
>t. 24 year old Zoomer
>>149145284
Zooble would 100% do that just to spite Jax

>>149145334
Poor Moon.

>>149145340
Anon, every generation does that. Millennials used to SWAT people all the time

The VR goggles exist in an abandoned house somewhere.
Kinger created/helped create the game and got sucked in with his wife.
Then Ragatha, a real estate agent, went to go check on the house and went missing.
Jax, a poor thief, broke into the house to steal and put on the headset.
Gangle wanted a place to draw or inspo for her webcomic.
Zooble and Pomni are both urban explorers.

Any tips to get mentally ready for when Ragatha dies?

>>149145417
She’s not gonna, she’ll be saved on the brink.

>>149145417
No one is gonna die. Goose would be retarded to abstract any of the main cast considering how popular they all are. Zooble and Kinger are the only candidates in that regard, but Zooble is pretty far away from abstracting and it doesn't feel like it would make sense for Kinger to abstract.

>>149145411
Kaumfo needed a place to masturbate in peace.

>>149145417
Worry not, Jax will grab her at the last moment and she will be okay.

>>149145417
I can fix her.

>>149145411
Maybe Jax hates corn because he was so poor it was all he could eat. Also fits with his knack for breaking into places.

>>149145411
I think it’s more likely given what Caine made and what we’ve seen of the “real world” that they’re in an abandoned office building instead, but everything still checks out otherwise
>>149145417
She’s not going to die, anon. She's going to abstract, there’s a difference.
>>149145429
Step 1. Denial

Sooooo

Any good fics?

Anything will do, just wondering if anyone's read any interesting stuff

>>149145417
Just lurk in the threads. It'll be brought up so many times, you'll be desensitized to it when it happens.

>>149145417
OUR HERO Pomni will save Ragatha.

>>149145263
>>149145343
2023 is before two of the show's actors had a falling out in their personal relationship. Episode 5 deals with a lot of these characters bickering, so it has nothing to do with some kind of whatever thing that suddenly became "problematic" last week (except, of course, within the personal lives of some of the actors).

>>149145502
>Denial
Projection. Ragatha is not abstracting, it’s just bait.

>>149145417
YOUR WAIFU HAS NO FRIENDS AND IS GOING TO DIE SOMEDAY AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>149145446
>Zooble is pretty far away from abstracting
not with them fighting words they won't

>>149145417
>Ragatha dying
The only person who's not gonna make it is Jax (because he's a faggot)

>>149145516
Alright, sensible.

>>149144720
Homosexual hands made this.

>>149145516
That’s what me and another anon guessed in a previous thread before the episode but ironically Jax and Zooble don’t really aggravate each other that much in this episode, at least in my opinion
>>149145523
I love the Grim and Gnarly comparisons people were making on Twitter

>>149145523
They can't die in there, that's the whole thing

>>149145523
I preferred the Jeb! pose.

ENTER

>>149145620
That's Dio you fucking double nigger.

Everyone thinks Jax’s unforgivable thing is killing Ragatha but the show is telegraphing that too much, it’s actually going to be giving up himself.

>>149145644
I don't know who that is

>>149145620
>Implying
WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>149145674
Bro, how old are you? Do zoomers really not know Jojo's Bizarre Adventure?

God I've been on 4chan for far too fucking long.

>>149145620
That's not the Jeb pose, you uncultured fuck

>>149145689
Fuck you I'm a zoomer and I was laughing my ass off at WRYYYYY flashes in elementary school

>>149145698
In that case, that anon has absolutely no excuse

>>149138630
high amounts of SEXO

>>149145689
STICK FIGURES ON CRACK

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH

>>149145635
Thank you madam president

>>149141768
>I have no mouth and I must scream.
>Maze Runner.
>Lost series (the final sucks but the ride is fun)

SOON

>>149145698
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxmYzAsCXrg

>>149145877
Naaah she’s fine. Goose isn’t cruel enough.

>>149145520
>"Nobody likes you and you're gonna die someday!"
>Her evil version melts when losing
>The picture Goose posted after the episode (implying Ragatha is so ostracized from the group that she had no choice but to hang out on her own, at night, outside the circus tent)
It's right there, anon. Don't come crying when it happens.

>>149145931
That’s bait to distract from total Jax death.

>>149145931
>I just thought it was funny

I hate that the digital circus have reverted me to acting like a tween again and writing fan fiction and watching the cast as "Vines" on YT

>>149145878
KILLER QUEEN YOU ARE A MEAN AND BAD STAND DONT MAKE ME USE BITE ZA DUSTO YOU MISERABEL SCOUNTDREL

Somebody pointed out that you can see the observing mannequin in episode 4 as well
>>149145948
Yes, embrace your fandom days, anon

>>149145948
Man, I miss the old Spudsy's restaurants like that, the current corpo modern design just isn't as good.

HELLO YOUNG LADY, HOW MANY ORBS CAN YOU FIT INSIDE YOU?

>>149146000
what does it meeeeeean?

>>149146127
>the random television sign
I know you're pointing out the manikin but that sign felt odd too but I don't know what it could mean.

Coining this has Kingers official theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTH_mGg_rVw

>>149146229
My brain went to Caine 'n' Abel

>>149145877
I don't think Ragatha will abstract but I think she'll have an "abstraction scare" where she finds herself on the precipice and Pomni yanks her back.

>Hey Ragatha, did you know that, sometimes it's okay to get mad and yell at people :)
>Whoa whoa wait not like that! You need to stop being mean to Jax! :(
Pomni is a hypocritical bitch

>>149146368
I think we all agree on that in that moment.

>>149146000
Iirc hes in 3 too

>>149146229
>>149146285
Its the same logo from the fake exit area in episode one.

>>149146402
He appears in all the episodes.

>>149146368
MEDIA ILLITERACY AT ITS FINEST

>>149145226
How is a ship going to fuck up the characters. They are both fucked up but are pretty similar.

Them learning to care for each other is also part of the ship. Shit it doesn't have to be romantic, if they're interacting with each other it's enough for people to start dreaming

>>149146563
See
>>149145202
It goes against the appeal of both characters, one or both needs to budge.

>>149137025
i want to manipulate people into liking me =/= i want people to be happy

>>149140454
holy shit pomni's head is fucking huge.

>>149146605
Ragatha, jax and point needs to be in a poly doing Threesomes. That's my take.

Joking aside. What appeal would be ruined if they learned to care for the opposite spectrum?

>>149145122
>>149145159
It would start of as a threesome but then point watch by the side as both of them just start having intense hate sex

>>149144091
>To me I feel like losing Ribbit was due to Jax acting like Ragatha around them and Jax thinking that made Ribbit abstract
im not sure i agree with the whole reply but i definitely agree with this part. im curious to see how this plays out.

>>149145446
>doesn't know that caine will turn her to an abstraction like he did the others, because she's a critic.

>>149141768
Can I add to this? Russian game called Typгop.

>>149145101
Huh, "Caine and Bubble", that sounds like "Caine and Abel".

>>149142258
Who made this?

>>149146807
You know when Caine blew up at Zooble briefly and his head got huge and scary? Pic related.

>>149146703
Ragatha either becomes a Jax apologist/enabler (bad) or a cunty nag girlfriend (bad) and Jax either becomes a douchebag steamroller boyfriend (bad) or a softie lovey dovey boy (not Jax, bad).
They are oil and water, peace and war, it doesn’t allow for their personalities to shine. Ragatha is for snuggles and teatime and Jax is for Bonnie and Clyde powercouple.

>>149142327
My man Kinger looking fly

>>149146867
those are Goose's official expression sketches from twitter

>>149146867
Goose

>>149146870
i totally forgot about that. im even more convinced of this. and with zooble becoming friendly with others and going on more adventure it makes it even more heart wrenching when she's ripped away. bonus points if no one else is around when it happens. just like how all the other abstractions, as far as we know, were unseen by the other humans.

>>149145635
Пpeзидeнт Пoмнй

>>149145763
>*Hamburger falls on you*

>>149145948
I know, right? Makes me want to draw fan art, like I used to for the gray troll comic.

Zooble would be the only character the fandom would accept abstracting if I’m being honest.

>>149146913
I think it’s more likely that Kaufmo blamed Caine when he started abstracting because of all the exit doors Caine refused to acknowledge
>>149146959
I know it’s super obvious, but I like how the alliteration works in multiple languages

Ragatha could not be a more obvious abstraction if they tried. It’s so telegraphed that’s the only reason they might not, her not abstracting would be a stronger twist.

>>149146314
Thematically, it'd have be Jax saving her because of how things have been set up.

>>149146992
I think people would be upset regardless of who abstracted. Gangle fans would be especially upset if Zooble abstracted because that means Gangle has nobody else especially close to her

>>149146982
>gray troll comic.

Also.

>>149147106
>Zooble Abstracts.
>Jax, in a rare moment of outward kindness and empathy, comforts Gangle.
>She pours into him because she has no one else, and in doing so, Jax is able to begin to repair what little friendship they do have.
>Over time his bullying softens and becomes something of teasing.
>>149147119
I'm currently drawing for the Gay Demon Web series...
But this, this gives me ideas.

>>149137297
7/10. It was ok, but I prefer jokes to drama, and the other episodes tended to be funnier.

To the guy who said you can’t make out with Ragatha because her mouth is flat fabric, she drinks tea in episode 3.

>>149146992
I'd be really fucking mad.

>>149145505
I'm sure there's plenty on AO3. Comments should give you some idea of quality going in, people there are usually literate.

>>149137297
4/5
Felt pretty disjointed but had a nice amount of character-building for basically everyone, and it was a lot of fun at the very least.
The intermission was fun but legitimately contributed nothing but "look how good our animators are" to the episode.
It also feels like the loose NPC thing is kind of tacked on. Like, it's nice that some actual plot is starting to hit the series as a whole, but I don't know, it feels like it could have been introduced better. Like, it just shows up at the beginning, is barely addressed, then appears at the end again.
If I had to rank all the episodes so far:
>2 > 3 > 4 > 5 > 1
2 felt like the show was actually doing its own concept justice in all regards.
3 was just genuinely good.
4 was good but felt like there was a bit of wasted potential there, but I don't think it was expressly worse than 3, just good for different reasons.
5 was a mess, but had great character building
1 was okay, ish. Honestly it barely hooked me. I only really stuck with it because episode 2 was so damned good.

>>149147268
I am that guy, and I ask.

So what? Liquids can pass through fabric. Tongues cannot (without ripping a hole)

>>149146909
Imagine the sex

>>149147430
>*Rhino noises*

>>149144720
bro just stop watching the fucking show, this option is fucking dogshit

>>149145948
You shouldn't hate it at all. It just means the show is making you rediscover your lost childlike wonder

>>149147106
As a Ganglefag yes, Zooble abstracting would be upsetting. It would also need to be a forced abstraction by Caine, because Zooble seems pretty mentally stable, and for someone like Zooble, providing support for somebody else (i.e. Gangle) is a strong motivator not to give up.

If Gangle abstracts I'll drop the show.

I love this.

>>149147410
That’s not drinking, it would just stain her mouth parts.
She can hold her breath too, what would she be sealing shut?
Face it, she’s makeoutable.

>>149147563
How gross and ugly

>>149147619
Kek

>>149147619
I find this image both amusing and deeply upsetting.

>>149147382
I am surprised people rate 3 so highly. Felt like the weakest to me - still enjoyable, but the B plot is less a plot and more meandering character exposition, and half the cast is in narrative limbo for most of the episode.

>>149144720
>Gangle in C tier
https://files.catbox.moe/2x8x1r.mp4

>>149148101
I feel like 2 is the weakest.

>>149148237
I have never seen anybody have a mild opinion on 2. They either think it was one of the best or one of the worst.

>>149145497
It could be that seeing that he maybe a farmer boy did extra damage to him.
>>149146368
That's not what she was saying at all. All she said is that it's ok to express your negative emotions. The argument between jax and ragatha wasn't even started by jax but from ragatha who didn't like how pomni was talking about emotions. She as an adult tried to calm down the situation. Media literacy at its finest.
>>149146881
That's an extremely narrow way to say why you don't like the ship. It's not like ragatha in the previous episode as shown that she can defend herself and others but expressioing her full emotions is something she's stunt on.

No one is saying that jax would be some lovey dovey boy. Your arguments stems from stereotypes of these types of couples which which is not them in the fullest.

Personal I had like the ship due to the potential character development both would receive at.
>>149147099
I feel like it would be more of a jax/pomni team effort seeing how sees the theorpist.
>>149147132
Money bets on Caine made zooble abstract

>>149148253
I don't think it's terrible just boring.

>>149147106
>Gangle fans would be especially upset if Zooble abstracted because that means Gangle has nobody else especially close to her
uhhhhhhh yeeeeeaaaaaa...

>>149148101
I don't mind much, since it gives more time and focus to Kinger and Pomni
The main plot of 3 feels stronger for their absence, since it actually gives the time it needs to Kinger's character, which, at least for me, felt important because for the first two episodes he felt like the weakest character. The episode was funny and had a nice emotional core to it. Yeah a lot of it was just so Kinger could get his character exposition, but that only really takes up a small portion of the episode. I think it's better for how it develops his character as a whole outside of "is a goofy crazy silly dude who barely understands what's going on" like in 1 and 2.
An episode doesn't have to make use of every character actively participating to work, which is honestly why I didn't like the newest episode as much as most of the others. The attention was spread around too thin and it made the whole a lot thinner because of it. I think 5 would have been a lot better if more time had actually been dedicated to Jax and Ragatha, since this episode was clearly mostly about them and their extremely opposed coping mechanisms for the circus.

>>149145068
>>149145051
I mean with all the stuff about Goat dad having tapes of a black and white puppet show and how the next CH will take place in his flower shop

>>149148404
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/6/6c/Heavy_no02.wav

>>149148263
>That's an extremely narrow way to say why you don't like the ship
More of a direct challenge. Jax X Gangle allows for Jax to be Jax and Gangle to be Gangle. Jax X Zooble allows Jax to be Jax and Zooble to be Zooble. Jax and Pomni’s a bit iffy but I could see Pomni drifting more towards the fun side. Ragatha X Pomni allows Ragatha to be Ragatha and Pomni to be Pomni. Ragatha X Gangle same deal.
But Ragatha X Jax? What can you even do with that? Frenemies at the absolute most. Google Bunnydoll and it’s either Jax tormenting a blushing Ragatha or Ragatha with a lovey/gentlemanly Jax. One personality always outshines the other. You can call that character development but I like what their character archetypes are doing already, doesn’t feel like a win to me.

>>149148253
2 could have been the best episode (it was the best adventure) but Gummigoo’s drama is boring. I put 3 below it still, because while Kinger’s climax is great, the adventure is my least favorite.

>>149148710
Rags comes from an abusive household, I don’t see it.

What if Caine took the data of what people liked/voted for during the lightning round for his new adventures?

>>149148915
That would be pretty funny considering all the weird crap they were voting on.

>>149148764
That's true. She needs basically generally love
>>149148710
Can't that be said for funny bunny though? Like although it does allow pomni to seek thrills it also allows jax to be a bit nicer but I kinda get where your going with this.

I'm late, but did we ever get an answer on wheter Ribbit was a girl or just a faggot?

>>149148101
Kinger is just that good.

>>149149312
Ribbit drank the chemicals in the water

I wanna bang Bazooble