I know that near-universal consensus is that South Park's peak was around seasons 5-9, but when did the cracks really start showing?

>>149148911 (OP)
When the kids started acting more like obnoxious adults than a bunch of shitty kids

It was always dogshit. We just liked it because of the swearing.

>>149148911 (OP)
Season 9 had more misses than hits, but it still had enough good material to make up for the bad. Bdut that's when the decline started.

>>149148911 (OP)
Season 4 is brilliant, don't understand why it gets left out during the golden era.

>>149148911 (OP)
I would consider 3-4 as good as seasons 5-9 and 1-2 to be good on their own. 10-12 is like some sort of silver age and anything beyond that is varying quality.

Early life section

What would a South Park show made by /co/ feel like?

>>149148911 (OP)
First cracks started showing in season 9 but it didn't really get pronounced until seasons 10 - 11. In fact it almost perfectly mirrors how the Simpsons declined, it just didn't decline quite as hard quite as fast.

>>149148911 (OP)
In my very generic opinion the cracks started fully showing in season 20, season 19 was fun and a nice watch.

I'm a weirdo apparently for liking the first 4 seasons the most. But 5-9 was still great obviously, and the show stayed enjoyable for a long time after. Even now it can be great from time to time.

I usually mark the decline with Chef's death in season 10, but by seasons 8 and 9 it already felt like the show was changing again (after already changing around season 5). It was still great though, so these changes didn't feel bad at the time. But you could tell the show was losing its original soul.

>>149150561
The first 4 seasons are the best though.

>Chef's death
this was it

>>149148911 (OP)
First signs of decline: season 10
Last truly decent season: 14
Last ok season: 17 - 19
True zombie status: Whenever Tegridy started

>>149150380
North Park

>>149150380
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0N__qTTnMQ

>>149149160
Now that's just not true

>>149148911 (OP)
I'd say when PC principal showed up

>>149149160
Family guytard cope

>>149149123
Sob I can't tell the difference now when every adult is s manchild and every kid a premature adult themed prick

>>149149123
Butters nowadays feels more like a South Parkian than Stan and Kyle.

>>149150380
Depends who you're putting in charge.
50% of it will be mexicans and slavics with 2 token gingers with no ideas who go "lol it's your character now"
30% will be weird fat horny fucks with some fetish for robots, gingers, cripples, boys. Or some autist trying to write an epic lore surrounding a robot.
10% will be two weird schizos who come up with a lot of complex ideas which fall under their own weight.
10% will be a /v/fag who gets some shit done but his jokes are too passive to ever be South Park material.

>>149148911 (OP)
The Golden Age was from around S5-S9. The first half of S10 had a lot of episodes that fell flat like Return of Chef and Million Little Fibers, but they managed to turn things around and the run from the second half of S10 to around the end of S14 is the Silver Age. There’s weaker episodes, to be sure, but still mostly solid hits. S15 is all over the place quality-wise with some absolute stinkers like Humancentipad, Royal Pudding, and You’re Getting Older. Things pick up again in S16 (apart from the shitty Ziplining episode) and I’d argue that this Bronze Age revival runs all the way up to the last regular episode of S18 - Cock Magic. But then you get the really shitty hashtag special at the end of S18 and then that’s followed up by all the serialized plots like PC Principal and President Garrison and Tegridy Farms in the following few seasons and it’s just a long downward spiral after that. Cock Magic aired in the Fall of 2014, which means The Turd Age has been going on for over a decade now.

>>149148911 (OP)
I know that Redditors suck and never forms their own original opinions, but I found this take there that I really agree with.

When you think about it, Ass Burgers really did feel like the moment where South Parks downfall began.

>>149151206
>South Park’s biggest flaw right now is how direct their parodies of pop culture and politics are, there’s no room for any creativity or craziness that made the show’s social commentary interesting in the first place.
Cocksucker, I'm with 'em. It's not even like they have worthwhile opinions anyway. The best episodes have little to no commentary.

>>149151206
It REALLY should have ended on Assburgers. Would have went out with a bang, and there aren’t really any episodes that aired after that made it worth watching.

>>149150876
He actually gave us some of the best post-zipline South Park bits. The joke wore thin after a while, but PC Principal was one of their funnier additions.

>>149148911 (OP)
Viewership numbers' real decline started after season 15.

>>149148911 (OP)
Kyle's green hat is so cute!

>>149149123
So around seasons 6 and 7? I remember some really ranty autists like a Rob guy yelling that he'd be done with the show forever because of that. Took him until season 9 or 10 to actually quit.

>>149148911 (OP)
Season 10

>>149154496
It really is.

>>149155103
calmdown

>>149155605
Haha, I'm so glad you agree!

>>149156791
They all have cute hats.
Except Butters' mostly bald head.

>>149151206
This, Ass Burgers was Trey throwing in the towel. It was him straight up saying everything after would be half assed and status quo.
Objectively, South Park ended at Ass Burgers.

>>149148911 (OP)
been re-watching the first three seasons so far, and every episode been pretty funny and charming so far. Don't get why Parker and his ass-lickers hate it for. Shows how out of touch of it.

Now to answer your question OP, I feel like the cracks were showing during season 10, you had less episodes focusing on the boys having the adventures, the boys were getting to mature for their own good, all the side characters were losing their fun quirks, and the over the top ones like Jesus, Barbardy, The McCormicks, Pip were getting phased out, and most of the humour of the show was relying too much on the same running joke. Then it just got bad during season 14/15 where they stared to have unwatchable episodes like "Insheeption", "HumancentiPad" and "funnybot". That was when I knew South Park turned to shit when I couldn't finish those episodes due to how bad they were

>>149148911 (OP)
I like to say around 2008 or so when just about every single episode was just a parody of some tv show or movie. It looked like Matt and Trey were out of ideas and were just watching random shit on cable and said
>Why don't we just make fun of this thing?
over and over again until they had a full season or two made up.

It was still mostly funny but damn, it was not really the same show any longer and not much really South Park related happened or even had majority of the town cast any longer.

>>149157665
>Don't get why Parker and his ass-lickers hate it for
I think it's just the standard thing where creators feel ashamed of their earlier work (even if it's great).

>>149157665
Even worse, they just gave the other adults' quirks to Randy. His alcoholism (Stuart), him being a Karen (Sheila), him having an Onlyfans (Liane) and him being a shady businessman (the Tweaks). Randy's the Captain Hero of South Park.

>>149150380
>What would a South Park show made by /co/ feel like?
75% of it would just be Wendy and Bebe porn.

>>149158164
If Wendy and Bebe don't fart, I'm out.

>>149157149
Butters is just too powerful. He manages to be the CUTEST of the kids even without an accessory!

>>149158998
Yeah, he doesn't need one.
That kid needs to get farted on.

>>149148911 (OP)
Killing off Kenny for real and then reviving him due to fan backlash was the first sign they were ultimately slaves to the status quo.

>>149159124
At least they gave him shit to do afterwards, even if it was mostly overshadowed by other characters.
Family Guy did worse. Brian's death was a rating's trap from minute 1, and they ruined his character afterwards.

People talk up S10 like it's classic all the way through because it has the WoW and Family Guy episodes but I'd argue the bad outweighs the good. The Oprah's Minge and Hardy Boys ones are legitimately unwatchable. Also people love the time travelling atheism ones but they're only so-so.

>>149159284
>Hardy Boys one are legitimately unwatchable
What the fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzqtXi8T67w

>>149157600
I feel Post-Covid should've ended the show.

>>149159742
The Paramount episodes are a special kind of bad

>>149159798
That only applies to Streaming Wars and beyond. The 4 Covid Specials had some heart

>>149159933
>The 4 Covid Specials had some heart
I would not trust any recommendation you make, ever.

>>149150380
There would be a whole lot more creek and bunny interactions, femdom stendy and canon kyman, plus a cheating subplot with Craig dating all the cripples, Cartman's mom would develop a debilitating gastrointestinal disorder after marrying Clyde's dad, and every episode would include a scene of Nathan getting raped by someone/thing random. Oh yeah, and Randy dies in episode 1 and is replaced by Trey Parker himself, who keeps getting stripped and humiliated for some reason.

>>149157665
Damn Trey aged like milk

>>149160302
Only thing I don't like is canon Kyman. Everything else can go.

>>149148911 (OP)
Amazingly, South Park never had cracks. it is the most SMOOTH and gradual downturn I've ever seen of a show. To continue the metaphor, it's as if it was a piece of metal under stress, that just slowly.. bent. Never cracked, but kept bending until it was far too bent over to still be usable.

>>149149160
I haven't heard this attitude since back when it first aired, which kept me from watching it. thanks for the 'stalge, my good troll.

>>149159933
I liked the Covid stuff too

>>149158998
cutest cinnamon roll

>>149150380
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0N__qTTnMQ
Wehehehe

>>149151206
This, Matt and Trey admitted they don't care anymore, and everything else afterwards will be forced and half assed. If you kept watching, that just shows you're a good little sheep.

>>149158998
I wanna pinch his cheeks and pat his head.

>>149148911 (OP)
Everything after Kenny Dies

>>149151206
I've never seen Ass Burgers. Is it as good/crappy/both as Anons claim?

When did they start doing season long stories?

>>149154496
>>149155605
>>149156791
based and kylepilled

>>149150380
I don't know. What does this feel like to you? This is why it's important to have 1 director so everything doesn't feel inconsistent whenever a new writer is in charge of an episode.
https://north-park-creations.fandom.com/wiki/Special:AllPages

S1-S8
>You know I learned something today.
>Proceeds to give an anti moral


>S12+
>You know I learned something today.
>Proceeds to give an actual moral
Ruined.

>>149163182
You should try rewatching the first 8 seasons sometime if that's what you really believe

>>149157665
You know what? I actually have decided I fucking hate Matt and Trey for their arrogance.

I don't know. I'm a writer and a poet myself. I've gotten some things published under my name. And one thing I learned a long time ago is that sometimes you have to listen to people when they tell you something you are doing sucks. I've had good friends over the years, and even the occasional stranger, tell me something I was working on was bad. My response was sometimes to double down but just as much I like to see what I could have done that have pissed people off.

I think it's in the spirit of my own response to criticism that I've grown to despise Matt and Trey. They're not deaf to the things people hate about the show these days, but their response is always to double down. They doubled down on Randy. They doubled down on Cartman being a loser. They doubled down on PC Principal. Every single time the fandom has told them "we don't like this" their response has been to amp it up.

It's arrogant and snobbish and I don't like it. There's an extent to which I don't like creators giving their fans the middle finger. Your fans got you to where you are in the first place, you owe them more respect than what Matt and Trey have habitually shown South Park fans. It really rubs me the wrong way, and I don't like it. These people made you millionaires and Hollywood legends, they deserve better than for you to blow off their complaints like they mean nothing.

>>149159284
Trey hated the WoW episode and didn’t want to to be aired.

>>149150876
he started off okay but then it just got very grading
>>149151206
>reddit is actually right about something for once
man it's like seeing a unicorn.

>>149162189
In 2015

>>149163338
I really want to hear him say why it sucks and not give me a blanket reply like "it's i dunno lame" like some retarded Detroit highschooler dropout who can't express himself.
I personally love video games and video game episodes and I personally understand why *I* don't like it, not why Trey doesn't like it.
It's a very boring plot that could have been done in 5 minute tops or 2 minutes at best to move on with the plot I mean to move onto a better plot. Showing off how grindy MMOs are while accurate is also natively boring and the episode should have continued after Cartman said "Now we can play the game", there's so many stories to tell in WoW and Trey & Matt simply never gave a shit about video games to begin with, let alone MMOs and RPGs.
They basically got stuck on lvl 1 grinding instead of looking what the rest of the world of warcraft has to offer in terms of story material and locations.

Compared to LOTR it really wasn't a fun episode, it's like taking just 1 plot of LOTR that's naturally boring such as The Hobbit where they waste 40 minutes with the prologue stretched out to the entire movie/episode. I'm having issues with LOTR 1 as an example cause every plot in it is goddamn great and could make for entire movies since the movie itself had to trim down on a lot of content like Tom Bombadil and the cemetery Frodo has to go through, even the dialogue scenes are memorable.

>>149163445
For some reason I never hear Trey complain about his newer seasons, episodes. I was pissed that the Black Friday/Game of Thrones 3-parter wasted my time. This is exactly why I didn't watch nor read Game of Thrones. Martin should have stayed dead back in the 90s, but back then we had standards. Fuck this new generation keeps reviving old IPs everyone hated or ignored and saying they were good. I will always piss on any GOT fan by telling them to go watch LOTR instead. It makes the goddamn LOTR books fun to read compared to GoT, at least you learn backstory unlike GoT that has nothing. When the adaption needs to make up content cause your book lacks it is when you know you should quit writing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kvw2BPKjz0
Most video game episodes suck or they don't really focus on them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szzVlQ653as

Community was one of the few that actually dedicated itself to make a proper video game episode so much that it inspired the fanbase to create an entire video game about it replicating it 1:1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOueERJzjrU

>>149163289
The only thing that applies there is Randy, but you have a point. I also hate how they're essentially coddled. If any other show did this, they'd be put on a cross.

>>149150380
Everything made by /co/ sucks and all of their ideas for pre-existing shows sound fucking awful
Like "why didn't aang get a harem", that's the shit this board is focused on

>>149163289
I never thought about it like that, but absolutely Matt and Trey suck their own cocks way too fucking much and I've noticed that for eons by now. A lot of it comes off as fucking snobbish. I haven't watched south park in ten years but that all sounds about right

IMO the show was great up until Season 20, and then it kind of went to shit after that. It really felt to me they kind of lost it after figuring out they couldn't outdo real life, especially when it fucked over their entire season arc. It's kind of lame because they stopped experimenting after that and got really lazy. There is still an occasional really good episode though (the Obesity special from last year was a pretty good one, I also liked the Megan and Harry episode.) I suppose there is a good argument the show lost a lot of it's soul after You're Getting Old/Ass Burgers, which I wouldn't object to either, because they wouldn't commit to changing the characters. The show at the end of the day is a product of it's time and Matt and Trey's generation, and it can't really evolve much past that Which is bad for a show that needs to remain topical and cutting edge and has been on for 30 years.

>>149163731
Ironic. Didn't they make an entire episode about people in San Francisco huffing their own farts.
Matt and Trey became the people they mocked.

>>149163779
IMO, South Park doesn't need to be topical. They could just have the kids being kids and doing stupid shit.
I agree they should experiment more, like an ep around Craig's gang or the girls.

>>149163814
There's tons of hypocritical shit
>>149163819
It becoming overly topical is one example of how much they suck themselves off, like they think they need to. Honestly seeing them of all people think they're better than Family Guy was always hilarious. At least FG knows what it is

>>149163823
Yeah, like how they mocked Freemium games only to make one themselves. Then the endings either shame you spending nothing or for spending too much.
About the Family Guy thing, Randy is basically Peter Griffin now.

When is the next season airing?
Also did anyone watch the Casa Bonita documentary? how is it?

>>149148911 (OP)
The cracks started showing the moment they introduced the Pc principal and the weed farm to the show.

>>149164013
July 9.
Also, haven't seen the Casa Bonita documentary.

>>149148911 (OP)
Whenever it was one of them married a black woman and it just became another lefty tick box fiesta with weed jokes

>>149164125
Don't think marrying a black woman had anything to do with it...

>>149163847
The thing that bugs me about the Family Guy episode is that they shit on it for its gag humor. Yeah it's a gag comedy, no shit. And then talk about how you need a fucking plot, the plots are some of the most formulaic and pretentious shit in South Park, if I hear that fucking piano one more fucking time.

>>149164125
wtf South Park is good now?

>>149148911 (OP)
>>149149123
This but I think it started to go downhill with season 8. However I've been rewatching the series and I did enjoy a lot of the later episodes. But I still have an entire season dedicated to one joke or story plot.

The WoW episode made me scratch my head since ... Trey's writing was always 6/10 at best and its only appeal and "unique" thing was that it subverted expectations and appealed to adults by copying Charlie Brown but with a healthy dose of optimistic degeneracy/asshole rednecks instead of depressive introspection and moral posturing.
So it's funny to see Trey say "this is the worst episode I've wrote" as if his previous episodes were work of art or some shit.

>>149164286
Well, their criticism was how Family Guy's jokes don't connect to a story.
As if they didn't stretch a "story" across multiple seasons to repeat the same shitty weed jokes.

>>149157813
I hate how common that can be

>>149164946
As someone that doesn't create, is it really that hard to feel humble from where you started from?

>>149165705
Kinda? I mean, a decade of work changes you

>>149148911 (OP)
What about seasons 1-4? Those were comfy.

>>149165898
They were okay, but Trey hates the first 3 seasons.

>>149165898
Those were the best seasons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrorn-0vPyw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijBAG2O9GZs&list=PLr9IobgtLzDmX5_NPPxXIXieD4szyLHrh

You SP fans are fucking miserable goddamn, just stop watching then

>>149159124
It was moreso Comedy Central pinching their ankles behind the scenes because they said Kenny merch was important. Matt early on even said Kenny was just some orange blob and he was sick of voicing him.

>>149167058
Well, that sucks

Why doesn't South Park have more fart art?

>>149148911 (OP)
Season 1
Anyone who says otherwise is a fucking retard
The whole thing of 'reeee let's do things that are in the news and totally modern and hip reeee' is what killed it

>>149166577

>>149167479
Because most of the artists are girls, and girls don't fetishize gross stuff like farts or feet. Just imagine how much art Ginger Cow would've gotten otherwise...

>>149166577
Bitch we ended the comfy threads, what more do you want? We already stopped caring.

>>149168304
Comfy threads will come back at full force once the new season hits.

>>149150380
Very horny that is what it would feel like.
>>149164569

>>149168216
Well, feel like they should step it up a bit.

>>149168304
The existence of threads like this one says otherwise

>>149162016
This

>>149168345
I can't believe that thing is still going

>>149169151
Neither can I. How come posting nsfw only gets banned when I do it?

>>149165898
I love it for few reasons:
- because despite being computer animation it mimicks the crude/cheap paper-cut stop motion style.
- it has this "surreal" feeling
- old Cartman voice it's just a blessing

>>149162016
That

>>149169743
Modern Cartman kinda sucks. They obviously had to tone down his behavior.

>>149163445
>Trey & Matt simply never gave a shit about video games to begin with, let alone MMOs and RPGs.
stick of truth and fractured but whole were really fucking good though

>>149164286
>if I hear that fucking piano one more fucking time
the quality of south park is inversely correlated with how often they use that fucking sad piano riff

>>149168216
The Kyman shippers did eat up the farts for their shitposts and fics though.

>>149167344
Yeah, had CC not told them to cut it out, they wanted to see how long they could drag on "Kenny dead for good" and put in other characters as the 4th friend. Guessing Tweek would've had a formal exit and we'd have cycled through someone else had things been allowed to go on.

>>149149160
SPBP

>>149171344
Honestly, feel like they could've kept that going for longer. They barely do anything with Kenny for the most part, because Randy's so much important to them.

>>149168216
south park really needs more footfag art
which boy do you guys think has the cutest feet?

>>149171473
Nah, South Park needs more brapfag art. Specifically of Heidi.

>>149148911 (OP)
Everything after Imaginationland sucked

>>149171920
why not both

>>149172199
Because there's enough foot stuff of South Park already. There's barely enough braps.

>>149172457
>Because there's enough foot stuff of South Park already
bullshit, i've never even seen one good piece of south park footfag art

>>149166121
I feel like Chef's departure and Hayes' death is the start, or at least the cementing of, the boys acting like sad annoying adults and Randy becoming the wacky adult star the show. Chef was this barrier between the kid and adult world in the show.
I guess it was inevitable though, he was appearing less and Hayes' health was failing, with or without Scientology

>>149171306
I've not seen enough people shit on it

>hit it big with a cheesy short film about swearing kids and anal probes
>turn it into a TV series
>do it for the rest of your life
Grim.

>>149163445
>not give me a blanket reply like "it's i dunno lame" like some retarded Detroit highschooler dropout who can't express himself
Gen x'ers just tend to be like that
Gotta be torture if you're autistic and want clear concise answers, and I don't mean that as a jab at autistic people at all. Formulate a fucking reason, is that too hard.
I wasn't a WoW guy at all so I think the episode is loved just because everyone played WoW back then. That kind of bias, I liked old shitty Atari games and so I loved Moon Master episode of Aqua Teen.

>>149151515
>>149157600
As far as Simpsons analogies go, that sounds more like "Homer's Enemy".

>>149163452
>For some reason I never hear Trey complain about his newer seasons, episodes
Someone earlier mentioned the human centipede episode as being one of the worst. And when I read it, I immediately thought of actual footage of Trey laughing uncontrollably during the writing of that episode
That's the comedic genius we're dealing with

>>149173113
Yeah what a grim fate of being given $900 million dollars for it

>>149169470
I got banned for a fully clothed catgirl once

>>149173160
How much cat was she? I've gotten banned for posting fully clothed Callie Briggs from Swat Kats. I think it's too furry for mods.

>>149173113
You stop feeling bad when you realize how much money they make

>>149173166
It was Kitty Katswell

>>149172968
Look on either Deviantart or Pixiv. Especially Pixiv.

>>149173262
i don't think you understand just how bad south park fanart on deviantart really is, anon
and this is a tame one, there is so much worse

Why no South Park x Eltingville Club crossover?

>>149173145
Trey would probably dig it if an actual movie called "Ass" came out and it was his own pimply old ass on the screen farting

>>149173552
Oh no, is it that one Kyle fanartist that likes drawing him fat or inflated and with giant feet telling the viewer to suck his toes? I remember her stuff from old deviant cringe threads

>>149148911 (OP)

>>149171447
>episode where Kenny is nowhere to be found because Randy beat him up and stole his parka, trying to fit it on himself but only wearing it over his head and trying to go MMPHMMPHHFFF
>Stan facepalms the way through

>>149173586
>her
wait really? an actual woman draws this shit?

>>149173652
Oh no, they did it to Tweek too! That's definitely the energy the Kyle pictures had, except they used to be traditionally-drawn and looked like a little kid's art.

>>149173606
this character stopped being funny the moment they had him beat the absolute shit out of cartman. if they had him actually lose, it would be fine, but they clearly sympathize with him and by extension political correctness.

>>149173616
Honestly, it wouldn't be surprising if this happened.

>>149173678
deviantart was a mistake

>>149173606
I love this expression lol

>>149167517
this anon gets it. season 1 and the movie are the peak. season 2 and 3 are the swan song. season 4 is an entirely different show - they move to 4th grade and get real heavy handed on the moral of the day being topical instead of just silly nonsense.

>>149174967
The movie came out during season 3

>>149173555
South Park kids aren't nerdy enough

>>149173716
sounds based desu

>>149175042
You do understand that one doesn't have to do anything with the other, right?

>>149173113
>do it for the rest of your life
What would you choose to do other than run the second most influential animated comedy after The Simpsons?

>>149162035
>I've never seen Ass Burgers
it's the literal next episode after You're Getting Old
If you haven't even seen that one, get the fuck off the board

>>149175176
it's not even really a particularly good episode though

>>149148911 (OP)
I wouldn't say the actual "cracks" started to show until season 20. Around season 9 the show became a lot more "intense" or "cinematic" but no less entertaining. I'd say season 15 was the first noticeable decline, but 15-19 was still better than 1-3.

>>149148911 (OP)
Lorde

bump

Member Berries was the last memorable joke from South Park, accidentally kind of poetic. In South Park's defense, pop culture pretty much froze sometime in 2015 so it's inevitable that such a satirical show would have a steep decline.

I hate how many fujis this show attracts.

>>149173716
>Noooooooooo it's not funny when it's against my side!!!
lmao

>>149148911 (OP)
when they went after Phil Collins and Family Guy
showed they could dish it out but not take it

South Park peaked at Imagination Land

>>149173073
I always found Chef's death and removal from the show extremely tasteless. Doesn't matter if Matt and Trey were "le fooled by his scientologist buddies" or whatever their cope was.

>>149176031
I think they're just two retards who never grew out of some high school immaturity, so they were too fucking retarded to understand how a cult could be controlling someone, especially an old guy with failing health, or at least give a send off to friend and coworker who gave a hand to the show when no one else did
At least now they seem to be aware that Hayes definitely did not write that letter

>>149175858
I think it was frozen in the late 00's with constant reboots and rehashes
>>149175964
Remind me, I don't remember the Collins one and I don't know if FG ever even gave a shit about SP seething at them

>>149173716
>if they had him actually lose
He has lost, several times. Him beating up Cartman also wasn't meant to show him in a good light, retard, it was a representation of how politically correct people tend to over analyze stuff that really doesn't matter (hence PC Principal not getting upset over Cartman framing him for rape, but over Cartman using gendered language) and also the irony of a guy concerned about PC beating the shit out of a small child

>>149163182
Now that's what I call a sticky situation.

>>149176090
They shat on Phil Collins because he beat them in the Grammy's.

The Family Guy attack was more about them defending their turf, but they were cowards for censoring Mohammad and saying "we make dumb stories too so its kay :^)" and plus dicksucking the Simpsons who had previously shat on them.

>>149176099
So by that logic Wendy lost, huh? :))

>>149173129
>so I think the episode is loved just because everyone played WoW back then.
I've never played WoW, but I liked the South Park episode about WoW just because I like Machinima and a mainstream show like South Park doing a sort of official Machinima for TV audiences was cool to see.

>>149148911 (OP)
It's gotta be Season 11-12

>>149176099
Yeah, no. He was right for the wrong reasons.

I like Wendy bum

>>149178051
based post

>>149178185
>>149178051
I like Wendy farts. Any other girl farting works, too.

When they got rid of the country background music and started only using generic "dramatic" stings

>>149176399
>just because I like Machinima
See, I never gave a shit about that either so it just did nothing to me
I did watch anime though so the ninja episode did get a smile out of me, but I also think it's just well made on its own. Then again, maybe that's my own bias showing up too.
Even the ending though, it's another forced topical reference(I think the 2004 super bowl wardrobe malfunction), but it wasn't in your fucking face and worked well as a joke about what parents choose to freak out about. Later seasons would repeat that joke throughout the episode. Man that was a good episode

>>149178576
Wait, what do you mean anon?! *dramatic piano plays*

>>149178576
>>149178657
Yeah, it lost the country feel to it. South Park is an everytown, like The Simpsons.

>>149178670
It's like when people talk about certain musical artists who start off normal or poor, get rich and famous, and completely become out of touch. I get that but with certain cartoons.
The show was supposed about to be some small bumfuck nowhere town, which makes it funnier when weird shit keeps happening to it. And the kids act like dipshit kids. I think even their 20's the creators still knew how to tap into that.
Then more money and exposure, you know the rest

>>149178909
Yeah, that's another thing, the kids are too... nice and adult-like, save for Cartman and oddly, Butters.

Tell me about North Park. What is it and how does it compare to South Park?

>>149175944
supporting/sympathizing with political correctness precludes being funny, yes.

I never liked Chef, you guys are just being nostalgiafags. Isaac Hayes is burning in hell btw

>>149173552
>>149173652
Source?

>>149149160
That's false, I did a rewatch two years agon and inly the first 9 seasons are rewatchable indefinitly. Starting season 10, it starts to get painful...

>>149171306
Someone needs to smash that piano up, and bring back the classic banjo

>>149171344
They replaced Tweek with butters again during the last few episodes of season six. Feel like Butters would have just been Kenny replacement regardless if he was still killed off. Though I can see them experimenting by throwing Jimmy or Craig in the mix every know and then

>>149176195
I know Trey got butthurt by Dawkins’s response, where he said that Trey was a shit voice actor and can’t make a good point

>>149180345
Funny how /pol/ circlejerked the show only to call it Jewish propaganda. What a bunch of morons.

>>149180943
That's something South Park needs more: experimentation. But if it doesn't work, move on. Don't dwell on it for too long, like Tegridy Farms.

>>149181004
Well, only 1 of those is a complete lie.

>>149160302
Unironically peak and would watch. Can't wait for comfy threads to come back.

>>149181152
>Focusing on character interactions instead of satire
>Randy loses relevance
>Liane farting
This is perfect.

>>149148911 (OP)
s18

>>149181506
2nd real answer. That's where serialization started spanning an entire season, and we all know where that ended...

>Farts on Kyle's face
>The smell makes him cover his nose
>Teases him afterwards
Panderverse Cartman is waifu material

>>149181646
>and we all know where that ended...
You know, I really don't. The only season-wide plot I remember was the one with the online trolls, and I don't remember how that ended at all because it just bored the hell out of me the whole way through, I'm pretty sure that's also the last one I watched at all. Do they still do these?

>>149181960
No, they're back to standalone episodes. Sometimes things happen that stick around, but it's mostly standalone.
Also, the troll season ends with Gerald getting away with everything, the memberberries and gender war aren't resolved, Garrison is still president and Cartman and Heidi are still a thing.

>>149173129
>“And I was like ‘please’, I was begging Anne [Garefino, South Park’s long-time producer], ‘do not let this go on the air, because I don’t want the South Park legacy to be ruined, and this show is going to ruin it because it’s so bad, and I’m just going to feel terrible.’

>“And [she] just ended up going, ‘it’s just gotta go on the air Trey, just let it go on the air.’

>“And I just went home and I was depressed and couldn’t sleep. And I got up the next day and they were like, ‘Dude, people really liked that show’.”

>The offending episode? Season 10’s ‘Make Love, Not Warcraft’ – which fans remember as a classic.

>“It is still, to this day, one of our most famous episodes that people will cite as one of the best of all time,” Trey goes on. “And I literally wanted to kill myself over that episode.”

>>149182084
Well, I'd take that compared to half of S20 and beyond.

>>149181032
It’s like they forgot how to tell a joke after stick of truth came out. A

>>149182084
He's so fucking annoying in his low standards that he thinks are high

>>149181015
Why would pol even bother with South Park?

>>149182379
Nah, they had a semi-good run until S20 bit them in the ass.

When they started saying things that made fun of ME and MY opinion/beliefs!

/thread

>>149182442
I know season 17 was happening alongside the creation/launch of SoT but I disagree. Season 18 literally only had two good episodes. Same thing with season 19.

>>149182439
They only like it because they thought it agreed with them.

>>149182488
DESU, South Park needs to get back to kids being kids. The games capture this more than the show.

Why do SPfags do this thing where they dismiss all criticism as the other party being mad over being targeted, or how they trivialize and obscure how effective other people's clapbacks were?

>>149182529
Because they're pathetic.

>>149182517
There is an ongoing discussion regarding a general attitude of nihilism among elementary-aged school children, I’m sure the writers can relate to. Why not tackle that and state some bullshit reason why it’s hard to write kids being kids.

>>149182396
It's a shame, as Parker used to be such a funny guy. I do feel like the old writers from season 1-9 used to call him out on his shit, or he could take criticism.

>>149182640
Well, there's already a reason. They're older and relate more to Randy.
Just one problem; why not give the other adults more to do?

>>149171473
Your mom

>>149176267
Yes

>>149182458
No but you can tell which posters are basically taking the long way to say just that

>>149182529
Those types of guys do exist though
They need to be enlightened over SP always fucking suck, whether it agrees with you or not.

>>149182959
I never once thought the South Park guys can actually take criticism. They have literally fired people for suggesting character gags in the writers room. It’s more like they had a good run of goated episodes and the moment they had a few years of consistent shit seasons, they threw a tantrum and gave up. That’s why the weed farm is still there despite being knowing that people despise the entire thing.

>>149183117
Season 1-9 used to have a lot of character gags, and so did Team America, That's my Bush and Orgazmo. I get a feeling Family Guy and Drawn Together turned them off from making those jokes, as they hate being compared to them, which caused Parker to change his humour and develop such an autistic hatred to those type of jokes

>>149183180
Once again mogged by Drawn Together

>>149183180
Well, given how Randy is, it was all for nothing.

>>149183437
Have there been other examples of writers doing this self insertion/unable to take criticism or is this just a South Park thing of amateur writing?

>>149183473
There's Rick and Morty, but it gets more flak for meta humor for some reason. Yet people suck South Park off for the same thing.

South Park Brap art is severely underrated. You think there'd be way more.

>>149183473
Dobson. Trey Parker is literally a successful version of Andrew Dobson

>>149183943
Many such cases

>>149183988
This is sad

>>149174967
Such a boomer take. Also, the movie feels more at place with Season 5+.

Remember that they ditched the kino Bluegrass theme for the tryhard edgy one
https://youtu.be/-FUzmz8VK3E

>>149183180
They used to have gags they admitted were more Monty Python inspired too, and even had a Dead Parrots parody with Cartman and Kyle for some collab

>>149178379
>Cartman slips fart powder into the girls' food as ebic prank material
>He can't take it when all the girls unleash deadly fart warfare

>>149185237
I want someone to draw that.

Bump.

>>149164320
>>149149123
I agree. 7 has a lot of great eps for me, but I do think that where it starts losing its charm a little. Lil Crime Stoppers was my first and is probably still my favorite

Mr Garrison being Trump wasn't funny, not because they were making fun of Trump, but because they *didn't* make fun of Trump and also ruined Mr Garrison at the same time.
It was very weird that they couldn't just have a Trump characature like they did for everyone else.

>>149187031
There was a Trump caricature, but they forgot he exists.

>>149187155
I guess I just wonder why

>>149177548
He was not protrayed as being right.

>>149176267
Different contexts, my low IQ friend. Cartman in that scenario was reinstigating a conflict after getting out of it several times.

>>149176195
>but they were cowards for censoring Mohammad
Comedy Central as a third party did that. They already showed Mohammed in Super Best Friends and that was their argument for showing him again in Cartoon Wars.

>>149187246
Ok, but him beating up Cartman wasn't losing, he won there. He was a villain originally, but they made him redeem himself.

>>149148911 (OP)
shut your mouth uncle fucker

>>149160302
Where is the kylefag in this pic?

>>149183117
>They have literally fired people for suggesting character gags in the writers room
QRD?

>>149187155
He's locked in Garrison's closet

>>149150380
shit, /co/ couldn't collectively organize a cock up in a brothel, never mind a cartoon

>>149189170
Kylefag wasn't in the comfy threads because he ragequit the show for a while over Post Covid aging up Kyle

>>149190622
He's pissed they made him hotter?

>>149191099
He's an autistic pedophile

>>149191149
...wow. You he'd thirst after the moms or something.

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