>known as the "most Christian cartoonist in Hollywood"
>obvious into little boy muscle growth fetish with literally dozens of examples from the show
HOW DOES HE KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

>>149159737 (OP)
You're mentally ill

>>149159737 (OP)
It was Steve Marmel's fetish, not Hartman's. We had a whole thread years ago detailing how almost all the muscle growth examples came from episodes Marmel wrote.

https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/117343553/

>>149159865
I wonder how many more of these are out there. Can we find a single writer responsible for all the dexters lab episodes that focus on Deedee's feet to much?

>>149159904
I wonder how many episodes where a character turns into a girl are written by the same person
Or episodes where all the characters get fat
Its plausible to think theres maybe 50 guys running around the industry shoving their fetishes into things.

>>149159904
I remember someone said they suspected rebecca sugar had a giantess fetish, because of steven universe but also the fact she introduced susan strong to adventure time, dont think theres enough to go on though

>>149159904
>>149159921
>>149159942
Kill yourself

>>149160162
What fetish are you hiding, anon
speak

>>149159865
>Marmel worked on the first season of Johnny Bravo
No wonder

>>149159865
>Marmel also co-wrote the "Oh Yeah! Cartoons" short where Timmy wishes for superpowers(also the Crimson Chin's debut).

Well I'll be.

>>149160162
anon I get it, not everything is someones fetish, yeah yeah.

But when you find out there's like one specific guy who writes multiple episodes, across different series, where some character gets stripped down to their tighty whiteys in public, then it becomes suspect.

>>149160464
I would definitely like to know if you're alluding to someone with that ENM tighty whitey fetish, that's right up my alley

>>149159737 (OP)
>gag exists in cartoon
>hurrdurr is this fetish?!

>>149161321
see
>>149160464
>>149159865

if every little boy grew big muscles it would unironically solve most of society's problems

>>149159865
to be fair, there was still a lot of MG shit even after marmel left the show. anything in this show with gay shit, kevin sullijew's name should be looked for

>>149161494
what
explain

>>149159865
He's still at it. Has anyone ever pressed him on it? Like, does he just enjoy drawing muscles, is he envious or gay, why is it absent in Danny Phantom, ect. He used to have a Twitter account, but I can't seem to find it anymore.

>>149159865
So did all those gay writers use the female characters to self-insert as?

>>149159921
I personally did the research into fat fetish eps and while there wasn't anything directly connecting them like repeated use of wg. I did find that most writers that did the more iconics wg episodes (Passion Patties, Frenchfry, Just Desserts) worked on Kim Possible.

>>149160357
he doesn't want to look at this, he wants to look like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Da4vGzur74

>>149161494
shut the fuck up steve marmel. your fetish sucks and you have shitty taste in shotas (muscleshos are disgusting)

>>149159865
I mean I think being a muscular strong guy fits pretty well into the wish fulfillment that shows premise deals with

>>149159737 (OP)
because it's kino

>>149162132
Shut up fag

>>149159737 (OP)
Timmy should be like the right, not the left

>>149161612
It makes a lot of sense to me.
A lot of women scream "male gaze" when they see a female character ogling a muscle bound or manly male character but more often it reads to me as gay/closted writer wish fulfillment. If given the choice most gay men would rather be a hot woman rather than an ugly guy, male attention is a helluva drug.

>>149159865
somehow this otherwise exhaustive thread misses out the villain teen in fairly odd parents 'crash nebula' pilot, who literally inflates himself on screen

>>149163584
rent free

>>149163619
wait he did mention it, my bad. still it's onscreen and very blatant.

>>149163619
>grows giant by blowing into his thumb
I'm guessing Three Caballeros is one of those formative childhood moments that lives forever in his head.

I mean, I wish I had big muscles too.

>>149163619
I genuinely don't know what I said that offended you so I am sorry but I can't not sign the lease.
Had another thought, I think the main difference between "straight male gaze" and "gay male gaze" is if the muscle worship is from a single woman or a group of women. If it's a group of women worshipping it's a straight dude inserting, if it's a single woman worshipping the man it's likely a gay man inserting.

>>149163630
Hit the gym then

>>149163646
My health is failing.

>>149163654
Damn... sorry to hear about that. Hopefully your health will start succeeding in the future

>>149163659
Thank you.

Of all the obvious examples of weird shit you managed to deliberately avoid the mpreg episode

>>149161602
The girl got improved
Also we're quick to jump on the gay fetish part, John K was into muscular men but that was more to do with his weird father issues and wanting to be manly

I didn't even know muscle growth was a fetish, now I feel like not working out

>>149161957
Jed Spingarn ep

>>149159737 (OP)
those kind of stuff played a big part in me being gay nowadays

>>149162132
>and you have shitty taste in shotas (muscleshos are disgusting)
Nonsense, they're the best of both worlds.

>>149163744
The punchline for this episode(mome) made me realize they were making him more retarded than he actually was

>>149163820
Also mogged by the Dexter parody of Conan, from a season most Dexter's Labs fans hate

>>149163744
I dont like buff men at all, just twinks

>>149163701
That was weird, but just the one time compared to how massively recurring muscle growth was.

>>149159737 (OP)
It’s called “puberty”. It used to be normal to grow up muscular instead of a fat porn addict.

>>149164037
That's also weird but to be honest preferable to weirder dumber shit like vore
Lots of sexy girls in this show though so it's balanced out

Butch Hartmann looks exactly like my abusive stepdad. For some reason, some Texas men all have the exact same distinctive set of eyes and a distinct jaw structure, kinda like people with Down Syndrome.

>>149164340
He looks like something. I wouldn't say like a used cars salesman, but definitely a sly type of guy, a smooth talker
Also I thought he was from Detroit or Chicago or something.

>>149164340
Do you need a stepfather special?

>>149159737 (OP)
Those shorts are very durable. Too bad they didn't focus on his feet growth

You retards are the reason cartoon gags died

>>149165121
That’s a good thing, footfag.

>>149159737 (OP)
Ironically, Steve Marmel had no part in the beach episode.

>>149166034
Its sad Timmy never actually found out how Tootie helped him that movie, felt like such an abrupt ending

>>149159737 (OP)
...because normal people don't consider being a cool hunky buff guy a fetish?

>>149163719
He and Marmel both worked on The Jimmy Timmy Power Hour.

Bump

Was this episode influenced or inspired by the 2003 Hulk film?

>>149166831
Therein lies the genius of it all. As long as the normies don’t pick up on it, you can get away with a lot.

>>149159737 (OP)
>>known as the "most Christian cartoonist in Hollywood"
false
>>149159865
/thread

>>149168766
I doubt it.

>>149166990
i'm starting to connect the dots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ-S1Cj88YU

>>149165230
Though some of the people who did worked with him on Timmy the Barbarian. Clearly he liked their work.

>>149169915
>strikes a tough/sexy pose

>>149159737 (OP)
he does not look even remotely anything close to what a woman would call sexy, or a gay man, hell even a straight man. Ergo it was probably not meant to be sexual. He just thought it was a fun use of animation or some shit I don't know. It's art. You experiment. You play with the medium.

Even if he has a fetish for muscle growth that doesn't make this sexual at all. Which you have no proof of anyway. Just relax and stop fixating on shit my man.

>>149170138
He didn't necessarily mean he found a 12 year old boy posing like that to be sexy. He probably meant the word to be in quotes. It should've been lol. You know, like >strikes a 'sexy' pose
>strikes a pose we would call sexy

It can be figurative like that. For example, using sex to sell a car does not mean literal sexual imagery like women in bikinis all the time.

It can mean metaphors, or visual techniques that subconsciously remind you of it like when they show long sweeping shots of the car being airbrushed with a coat of paint, or close up of the lights in soft focus so it mkes you think of a lady's coquettish eye. There's a whole science in using human facial cues to sell cars, with a certain expression to sell more to men (aggressive, with sloping lights) or round 'cuter' looking lights to get women. Or the winky face lights you get on sports cars, all low crescents and shit.

Now, that's not literally making the car resemble a face with a certain expression, but giving just a vague impression enough of one with traits that thus rmind you a bit of a face with an expression a bit, albeit indirectly

And so a Maserati's curve is 'sexy', much in the same way Timmy's pose is 'sexy' - in a figurative sense.

That was a mouthful but the point is demonstrated I hope. This is not sexual and you are letting your anxiety about nonces run away with you.

>>149170377
>Which you have no proof of anyway.
Just a couple dozen examples from episodes he wrote, that's all.

cartoons used to be good when perverted guys worked on them

>>149170994
Blame Karens

>>149161602
He switched to Bluesky. Nearly died of AIDS sifting through his posts, but it seems he's become one with the musclecock now.

>>149171349

>>149159737 (OP)
Another manlet self insert thread.

>>149171443
>>149171349
Good for him

>>149171349
>>149171443
Damn, actually living out his fetish. Well done.

>>149166034
What did they mean by referencing Deep Throat

>>149173811
That's what she wants to do with Timmy

>>149173811
it's a reference to a reference. The guy who exposed the Watergate scandal used Deep Throat as an alias.

>>149164340
I thought I was the only one who noticed this shit.

>>149159737 (OP)
After the Dan Schneider shit came out, people tried taking any and all gags from kids' shows and say that they're fetishistic when they're probably just what middle-aged writers and execs thought kids would find funny. I think a lot of the more DeviantArt-type fetishes came as a result of gags from these shows, not because the creators were putting intentional fetishes into them. Maybe that's just me and my reasonable doubt. I still don't buy Butch Hartman of all people putting fetishes into his shows.

Hartman is another degenerate faggot
Just take a look at his interview where he is exposing Poof ass. No one but a closeted child rapist would do that

>>149174467
This has been going on for ten years and 4chan is at fault because Dan Schneider was a big /tv/ meme back in the day

>>149159737 (OP)
Not everything is a fetish, dummy. Sometimes it's just funny due to how absurd it looks

This chad Timmy should return in a new wish

>>149174543
Nice b8

>>149176749
>Timmy becomes the new Mr. Galaxy
Pottery.

>>149175906
Things can be two things. A wise fetishist knows how to see the funny side of their fetish in order to package it to the masses.

>>149164340
>We're in such a mentally ill, ugly society that people see a typical handsome man as a problem

>>149164340
Tommy Taffy syndrome, if you will.

>>149174076
She’s one of your fans.

>>149175906
>>149159737 (OP)
Anon just wanted to make a thread about his fetish and had to use an inflammatory statement to get people to notice.

>>149177235
Episode would've been improved by a masturbation scene, plus cock and balls expansion.

>>149177408
I've got a muscle fetish, but muscles are probably the most casually sexualized thing on the planet.
It's honestly convincing me that a lot of cartoons probably DON'T have fetishists, because it's already so normalized.

>>149179343
True enough, but when the same writer uses it THIS much in the same show, you gotta wonder a bit.

Bump

>>149170565
Well, would you care to give some, O Great Condescender? My powers of telepathy are not up to par this morning it seems.

I kind of get annoyed when people complain about "fetish scenes" in cartoons, and it ends up just being some regular cartoonish gag.
The only time that it felt extremely overboard was that Total Dramarama fart fairy, that was enjoying the scent of kid's farts. That was disturbing.

>>149181737
Nor are your powers of reading comprehension. It’s the second reply. >>149159865

OP is an ESL

I remember an episode where Jorgen was in a sailor's outfit, he got knocked down, and while getting up, he had his ass in the air towards the camera and does anyone have a screencap, just asking

>>149181958
there's been a lot of them lately, they post the same characters and screencaps every time

In Danny Phantom What you Want, Marmel also voiced the announcer that says "Holy Mark McGwire. Look at those arms!"after seeing Dash becoming a huge beast

>>149159737 (OP)
SpongeBob did this on a way more consistent basis and seemed way more gay about it than TFOP ever did.

>>149170138
>an angel wars reference in 2025
nearly jumped out of my skin

>>149159737 (OP)
How horny are you if you look at this and have sexual thoughts?

>>149170994
Sad but true

>>149186111
>already massive muscles growing larger and more powerful by the moment
Seems a pretty reasonable level of horny to me.

Only bears at pride parades would name themselves "Butch". Might as well name yourself Freddie Mercury Hartman.

>>149184930
It's specifically the inflation shit that FOP fixates on. It's like if Anchor Arms set the standard for any buff joke in SpongeBob. Imagine Neptune channeling his trident's energy to pulsate his juicy, veiny muscles. Imagine the Fry Cook Games, instead of the wardrobe gag, SpongeBob and Patrick tense until their bodies expand in graphic detail. Only time I can think of is Karate Island.

>>149159737 (OP)
Muscles are great. We need them back in cartoons.

You can tell Marmel's into muscly guys, not skinny guys. Danny only started taking his shirt off in DP after Marmel left.

>>149187340
Based

>>149187364
Not-based. Danny needed to take his clothes off more in that show.

>>149187382
He should've had a physique worthy of being unclothed, then.

>>149174467
>>149174841
The Dan Schneider thing was because nostalgiafags were butthurt the Nickelodeon in 2010 wasn't the Nick they loved as a kid, and Dan made an easy scapegoat because his shows were half the channel, he looked exactly like what one imagines when they close their eyes and think of a pedophile, and all of his jokes were easy to read as creepy.

>>149187294
If Nick had any balls, they'd show these characters orgasming graphically and messily.

>Butch is a guy known for liking superheroes
>Being buff is a common power fantasy for boys and males in general
>Show about wish casting fairies and a ten year old boy has constant muscles
It's a mystery

I Wonder how does it feel to have a body Big like this . How large is his torso?

>>149181958
>>149182653
Japanese owned site

>>149187382
DP has material to do it

>>149190128
I can tell DP has a female audience because they latched onto a rando background character who was just some tall basketball kid and made up lore for him

>>149189274
About as tall as a 10-year-old girl and considerably wider than its height.

Bump

>>149169915
Too bad there's no storyboards from Beach Bummed

>>149192669
It would've been deeply enlightening, no doubt.

>>149190759
You mean Dash?

>>149193929
Can't whoever made this just have made her naked or something instead of their weird fetish? Was this animated by Steve Marmel himself?

>>149193964
Because the episode it's based on was ABOUT their weird fetish.

>>149193976
Wow I forgot this is how it actually went in the episode, Marmel was a weird ass dude. Maybe this (and the fact that he seems libbish) is the reason he and Butch had that falling out

>>149194829
As previously mentioned, Marmel actually wasn't involved in Beach Bummed.

>>149193313
This guy who appears for 1.5 seconds

>>149195721
Women...

>>149195804
Drag 'em through the sand, break their spines, they just come back for more.

>>149196403
That's why I disagree with the people saying she's just a self insert for the gay male writer, only a woman could have reactions like that

>>149196766
>gay male writer
Curiously I don't think Kevin Sullivan was part of the writing staff at that point yet

>>149194625
this is still going?

>>149196887
New pages at the start of every month.

>>149194829
What makes you think that?

>>149197087
What a nice guy, I'm going to get mad at him

>>149196766
There are a gay reference in Sanjay in the same episode
Tho seeing him jumping on Timmy would be hilarious

>>149198041
Yeah, but Sanjay's always gay.

>>149193313
>name your Flash Thompson knockoff Dash

Bump

>>149197087
Has he been involved in cartoons lately?

Yeah but like being the massive muscle handsome man isn't exactly an unheard of wish/fantasy for a kid, I still have that fantasy.

This episode works as an anti-war propaganda

>>149202987
Kys

>>149204902
It's just a Hulk reference and nothing else

>>149203812
He hasn't been involved in cartoons for like a decade, but made this show for some reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI-MZaGX6gk&ab_channel=DisneyChannel

>>149195721
>>149195804
>>149196403
Sadly this wouldn't be allowed today

>>149195794
Looks like Danny's older brother

>>149205613
I'll never know if this was any good because it has some of the worst child acting I've ever seen. Literally unwatchable.

>>149205613
Video unavailable

>>149208091
I would love to see if you're right, but this message was waiting for me:Video unavailable

>>149208275
>>149208290
?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI-MZaGX6gk&ab

>>149208715
Regional block

>>149184885
Cute

>>149160399

>>149208715
>this sloppy !YouTube mockup from a 2016 show has more soul than the modern YouTube UI
Grim.

>>149212155
This has to have been a sexual awakening for someone.

I Wonder what does Marmel think about this episode

>>149159737 (OP)
best fetish honestly

>>149159737 (OP)
>"most Christian cartoonist in Hollywood"
Butch doesn't actually believe in any Jesus shit. He's just in it for the money. Same with most celebrity Christians.

>>149213796
I'd be genuinely shocked if it wasn't.

>>149215583
>>149213796
the beach episode was definitely mine. Felt so funny watching it I often changed channels..

Is there any character who didn't get buff in this show?

>>149216999
Trixie. Technically Tootie as well, since she only got one arm.

>>149216334
In only about five seconds, too.

>>149164340
he grew up in Michigan though

Bump

>>149215194
There are no more like this sadly

>>149219820
When was the last time we had any official shotamuscle content? Incredibles 2?

>>149215544
That’s a cope about the bravery required to be publicly a Christian with his job and prestige (hence so many of his fans growing up to hate him like hating your Christian dad.)

LOL you guys reminded me of that episode where Timmy wished life was like an action movie and Jorgen muscles got taken away, right after a muscle expansion, near the end of the show.

>>149220632
Another Marmel classic.

>>149178020
Envy it's a mental disorder

>>149220375
>prestige
What prestige does Butch have?

>>149220375
>the bravery required to publicly be a member of the biggest religion int he country
People like you are how televangelists stay rich. You believe every single thing a fraud tells you as long as they mention Jesus.

>>149159865
Thank you anon, you’re doing God’s work

>>149159737 (OP)
I always figured it was just a basic power fantasy for a little boy to suddenly become big and strong.

>>149222716
If you bring up televangelists first when it comes to Christianity that says something about you more than anything - perhaps you're jealous of what they have

>>149222860
No, it just tells me you only value Christianity based on material wealth instead of genuine spiritual growth.

>>149159737 (OP)
I always loved this in cartoons. It's my fetish too.

>>149170377
I'm a gay man and I think he looks sexy. I have a muscle growth fetish.

>>149177408
>A wise fetishist knows how to see the funny side of their fetish
>A wise fetishist
With the websites I go to
No, I don't believe those people exist
The ones who know how to make light of a fetish are the ones who think it's funny and neither have the fetish nor hate it

>>149159737 (OP)
This episode was written by two women

>>149184930
>>149187294
>Imagine the Fry Cook Games, instead of the wardrobe gag, SpongeBob and Patrick tense until their bodies expand in graphic detail.
I remember Spongebob doing image related a lot.
Breaking teeth was most of it.

>>149223916
When I first saw that and the episode of him ripping off his eyebrow, I laughed really fucking hard. I don't care if gurofags are behind it, it's funny unlike Marmel's muscle inflation shit.

>>149222946
You’re the one who brought them up dude, you’re talking to your imagination.

>>149224462
>why did you bring up Christians in a conversation about Christians
Stop deflecting, Christcuck.

>>149223895
If the writers had any balls, Rigby would've said something like "Dude, I'm so hard right now"

>>149225217
Televangelists are not what Christianity is about, it’s about Jesus. Have you even had any real life experiences beyond seeing Christians on TV and maybe going to church a few times

>>149225381
It used to be about Jesus, now it's about money. Only retards think it's not about money. Televangelists are 100% what Christianity is about, because they found out since Christcucks will make excuses for why a loving God will let babies die of cancer, they'll make excuses for why it's okay to throw money to Jesus freak they see on TV.
>inb4 atheism
Not an atheist because the loudest there do the same thing, manipulate belief or lack there of to reap money from retards.

>>149225140
Instead the whale it should have been the wrestler guy who hates pencils.

>>149227201
Why? A whale makes more sense in every way.

This must be the episode where Francis had the worst time. Especially when Timmy stomped on the beach and sent him into the ocean with the truck.
Or when the tanks bombarded him at the end.

>>149228801

>>149229815
Not shown: his massive, throbbing erection.

>>149230602
To be fair, he didn't reach puberty yet, and that little ding-dong is still growing.

>>149230617
I meant massive compared to Trixie.

>>149229815
Is there anymore art like this?

>>149232543
If we're lucky , no

Why do people with weird kinks always feel the need to shove them into everything they do?

>>149234805
It’s not a weird kink
Kids get stronger during puberty and it’s physically awkward, thus exaggerating this process is funny

You just don’t recognize normal humor, probably just cuz of porn

>>149234867
Cope.

>>149159942
How based of her

>>149169561
>>149159942
>>149204902
Most of these gave me a hulk fetish, an omega based anon even drew this based on an ai example I gave.

>>149235458
>when the muscle fetishist commissions the fat fetishist

>>149235755
I like big strong girls of that type, think rose quartz and susan strong. muscular, but not toned.