Thread 149176494

Bay is back.


"Join Optimus, Arcee, Ironhide, Ratchet and Bumblebee as they race to stop Megatron from getting the All spark in this retelling of a summer blockbuster classic"

>>149176494 (OP)
I have meat in my freezer older than that movie.

>>149176494 (OP)
...

Why did nobody see Transformers One?

>Look it up
It's real

>>149176584
Bad marketing to put it simply.

BAYYYYYYYYYYYYYSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEED

>>149176592
not everything is bad marketing, sometimes people just can't be arsed to care

>>149176601
Not him and yeah "Poor marketing" is a massive cope in a lot of ways but no seriously those trailers were fucking abysmal
Yeah it wasn't entirely on the marketing (a constant stream of mediocrity didn't help reducing the value of the series in people's eyes) but still, piss poor marketing played a part

>>149176494 (OP)
Hot take: the original Bayformers Autobot cast is basically perfect. You need Optimus, right? And you need Bumblebee. How do you round out the cast, if you need five? I don't think you can do any better than Ironhide, Jazz, and Ratchet. They're some of the most iconic Autobots from G1, and they all have a pretty reliable gimmick (the tough guy, the cool guy, the medic).

I'd be perfectly happy with a new Transformers movie with that cast. I guess they have to add Arcee but she's pretty iconic, too, so I don't really mind it.

we already know you'll be ok with bayslop if the robots look like the toys

>>149176584
Nobody watched because people have already lost interest in Transformers movies, it's been doing poorly in the box office ever since Last Knight flopped.

>>149176584
The robit designs look ugly, didn't make me want to see the full thing. Same rising of Megs story I've read a dozen times

>>149176627
If they bring back Jazz they better not kill him off.

>>149176638
>>149176637
Weren't people tired of the Bayverse overstaying its welcome?

>>149176494 (OP)
Source:
https://puck.news/newsletter_content/what-im-hearing-hbos-comp-shake-up-peacocks-mini-purge-top-10-vanities/

Seems Paramount loses the rights if they don't get a new movie out by 2029.

>>149176742
People that watched the bay flicks when they were little are old enough to cocksuck them to their hearts' content now
a good chunk of them are also snyderfaggots, go figure lol

>>149176494 (OP)
Jordan Vandina is writing the reboot film from Michael Bay

>>149176820
Not familiar with his body of work. Is it promising?

>>149176627
What did Jazz contribute to the first movie other than an ally to lose?

None of Jazz's actual skills or abilities were utilized in the first movie, all they used him for were a couple quips and a black guy to kill off.

>>149176494 (OP)
fuck Paramount I hope Trump wins his lawsuit

>>149176819
I guess that makes sense. I grew up with them as well but only ever enjoyed the first one. Never understood how they went on for so long.

>>149176836
Here are Vandina credits

>>149176842
He honestly had a better showcase of his talents in extended media like tie in games and comics. I still remember driving him around the suburbs in Transformers: The Game. Blasting drones with his shield.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbe1ouzoxxg

>>149176584
It never got theatrical release in my country. And the trailers were god awful.

>>149176640
Fag

According to leakers (Belloni and Sneider) we get:
>an animated Skybound adaptation is in the works at Paramount
>a live action Bay reboot movie
>a live action Josh Cooley movie
>RotB, TLK and One are not getting sequels, TF vs GIJoe is cancelled.

>>149176858
Never seen any of these. Doesn't look too stellar.

>>149176880
>a live action Bay reboot movie
>a live action Josh Cooley movie
I wonder if they will be apart of separate continuities? Probably not.

>>149176880
>TF vs GIJoe is cancelled.

Oh thank god.

Sucks One isn't getting a sequel, but to be honest, at this point I'm seriously hungry for something that isn't just more G1wank. A new Beast Wars or Armada.

>We had two shots at getting out of the Reboot Bayverse swamp.
>One of them is a movie actually about the Transformers as characters.
>Bungle both and get back into the reboot the bayverse swamp.
>Quite literally by apparently remaking the first movie, but with Arcee instead of Jazz.
>The GI Joe crossover is still waiting in the wings somehow.

I'm tired.

>>149176890
If Bay's movie does well you know for a fact they'll force them into being from the same continuity lol

>>149176890
Rumour right now is Bay and Cooley are working on 2 films and Cooley's is a sequel to Bay's, so they will release them faster. Same continuity, seems Paramount want a new clean slate and need Bay for nostalgia factor. Probably the new designs will be more Bayish.

>>149176895
>A new Beast Wars or Armada.
I highly doubt we'll be getting either of those. Sure they are properties that could be tapped into but I doubt for Bay at least. He'd go for that. Plus there was Rise of the Beasts and that ended up going nowhere.

>>149176858
>Animaniacs Reboot.

>>149176915
I've accepted those won't happen, Hasbro isn't willing to risk alienating the G1 crowd ever again.

>>149176914
>Probably the new designs will be more Bayish.
I mean, we never really left it.

>>149176938
It's a shame they didn't use this kind of design at the start of all these movies, people might have been just a tiny bit less hostile.

>>149176902
True.
>>149176914
That makes sense enough. I hope the new designs aren't too busy like how they were as in the original Bayverse. I'm no G1 die hard fan but I hope they could explore something different.
>>149176935
>Hasbro isn't willing to risk alienating the G1 crowd ever again.
That's for sure, for better or worse. Then again I wish they'd do something akin to Armada. Not like we've ever seen a live action film take on the aesthetics of something more mecha-like. I think it'd be neat plus Armada was the first incarnation I watched shortly before the Bayverse came about. One can only dream I guess.

Concept art is apparently already being done for this one.

>>149176967
we really did catch lightning in a bottle with ROTB Arcee huh

>>149176584
the god awful trailers was a turn off for people including me.

>>149176494 (OP)
But I thought he was doing Skibidi Toilet. Is he doing Toilet first, then Transformers afterwards?

>>149176992
No, he is producing that and is doing a short film for it, he is directing Transformers as his big return

>>149176901
>I'm tired.
Aren't most of us?

>>149176992
>Skibidi Toilet
I still can't fathom that projects even exists. How do you even secure film rights to such a thing?

>>149176494 (OP)
Whaaaat

Qrd on whats happening? How many movies are coming? Reboot? No tfone sequel?

>>149176954
I quite like a few of Bay's designs. Bay's Prime is downright iconic at this point.

Should kept going with Bumblebee's peak coloring and designs, though.

>>149176494 (OP)
Baychads, we are so back.

>>149177007
No tfone sequel, sadly.
Plus...>>149176880

>>149176494 (OP)

I actually heard the movie is a sequel to dark of the moon and they are ignoring the events of the last 5 movies, like Sony did with Ghostbusters when they made a sequel to 2 after the female reboot. Might be wrong.

>>149176494 (OP)
All they had to do was hire Travis Knight again. Why are they so stupid?

>>149177008
based, their designs were great

>>149176977
A shame ROTB Arcee was barely a character.

>>149177024
Might as well make a sequel to the 2007 one and ignore everything that came after, personally, since we know it's a reboot and has nothing to do with previous films, I think Bay is making a remake of his 2007 film, like Universal remade HttyD recently, of course, this is just remaking an already live action film.

>>149176973
I guess.

>>149177026
I will laugh my ass if Travis Knight's Masters of the Universe is a hit and we get a trilogy out of it, imagine the seething at Paramount for not getting him back.

Do you think he knows yet?

>>149177039
Maybe, maybe not. He'll know soon enough. Probably will add a quick snippet of his thoughts on it.

>>149177037
Still not thrilled about MotU being another fish out of water plot taking place on Earth, again.

>>149177070
According to leaks it starts on earth and takes place on eternia

>>149176584
i watched it, it was good

>>149177066
I can already see him splicing together some kind of an overreaction to the news for the very end of the video. I'd be disappointed otherwise.

>>149176954
>people might have been just a tiny bit less hostile.
You mean G1 fans. Everyone else were fine with them.

>>149177034
If they're remaking the 1st one, then he should replace Sector 7 with the Joes.

>>149177139
No

>>149176494 (OP)

I could perhaps see Bay going in a few different directions

>A full on sequel to The Last Knight.
>A sequel to Dark of the Moon that de-canonizes Age of Extinction and The Last Knight.
>A sequel to 2007 that de-canonizes everything following it.
>A remake of the 2007 with the same characters with different designs and a tweaked story that ends up having sequels that differ from the original Bayverse films.
>A whole new story universe.

Either way we are so back Baybies. Now give us our toyline back

>>149177175
Yes.

>>149176494 (OP)
So from what I gathered and understand, Michael Bay is developing a new Transformers movie for Paramount, possibly as director, with a script by Jordan VanDina (Looking into him, he is known as a fast writer for 'weekend scripts' so might just be for a short draft idea rather than a full length script). If Skydance’s deal to buy Paramount goes through, they’ll inherit these projects and Paramount keeps the Transformers rights as long as a new movie is in production by 2029. As a note, the deal with Michael Bay has not been officially finalized.

>>149176494 (OP)
Article without paywall:
https://archive.is/20250627064740/https://puck.news/newsletter_content/what-im-hearing-hbos-comp-shake-up-peacocks-mini-purge-top-10-vanities/#selection-2101.0-2155.69

>Bay misses the ’bots (and the megabucks): Did you know that Michael Bay is developing a new Transformers movie at Paramount that he wants to direct? Bay, the auteur of explosions and up-skirt shots that defined the first five mega-grossers, had sworn off directing the franchise since his Shia LaBeouf–free Transformers: The Last Knight earned just $600 million in 2017—big, but about half the gross of the previous installment. (Paramount also tired of his astronomical fees.) Yet the franchise has atrophied without Bay, and he himself has not reached those box office heights since even complaining recently about not being able to get movies greenlit.

>Bay approached the studio last year to come back as a hands-on producer and possibly director, and he’s got writer Jordan VanDina working on a script. It’s one of five or so Transformers projects in development that David Ellison and Skydance will inherit if/when the Paramount sale closes. Josh Cooley, who made last year’s animated Transformers One, just closed a deal to pursue a live-action take. There’s also a possible G.I. Joe/Transformers crossover in development, and the studio has two separate ideas in early stages. Hopefully the Bay project will come together; it really is the perfect match of filmmaker and material. And Paramount can take its time. The studio keeps the rights as long as a movie is in production by 2029.

>>149177028
Kys retard

>>149177028
Love yourself, genius

>>149177215
>There’s also a possible G.I. Joe/Transformers crossover in development

>>149176494 (OP)
>Transformers x G.I joe cancelled
G.I bros.. it's over..

>>149177240
I doubt Skydance will do it (the gijoe crossover), seems they will choose only one of these 5 projects and go with the best idea to reinvigorate the brand. So it will be a fight between Bay and Cooley on getting their films greenlit.

>>149177241
G.I. Joe just can't thrive in today's climate. Too many things working against the core concept.

>>149177248
Make it more fantasy

>>149177261
Then it's not GI Joe.

>>149176494 (OP)
Wild, Cooley gets a live action movie, Bay gets a live action movie, neither are related to GI Joe. And this is one of 5 projects. The Last Knight writer's room plan never left!

>>149176494 (OP)
They should adapt the transformers animated storyline

>>149176494 (OP)
I can't tell if Bay coming back to Transformers is desperate on Paramount's part or to some extent for Bay (his last real box office hit was his 4th Transformers film)

Either this is probably the franchise's last chance to actually be a big box office success like it once was, if this fails the movie side of the series is flat out dead.

>>149176494 (OP)
Whyyyy

>>149176627
Fuck it we ball
Optimus,cliffjumper (swap chevrolet for dodge sponsorship and make him a challenger),wheeljack(rally car/offroad lamborghini) arcee (ducatti) jazz and either ultra magnus as armored truck with upgrade later into oshkosh 8x8 missle truck or bulkhead/oc

>>149176967
Shes turning into a pink caddilac ?
Interresting,one of few ideas from earthspark that were decent.

>>149176494 (OP)
My dream is a transformers animated adaptation (not the designs, the story though can take some inspiration from designs too).

>>149177197
Last knight was awful. Only the Unicron tease was good.

>>149176627
Gonna be honest I didn’t even remember Jazz or Ironhide was in the first film they more or less just blended in

>>149176494 (OP)
>5 projects in development
And none of them will be camp and gay like fans deserve. If Starscream and Megatron don't come off as hatefucking and Optimus don't come off like Megatron's ex boyfriend what is you even doing with Transformers?!

Guess I'll just suffer through Bay finding a way to excuse half naked 17 year old girls. Perhaps one he forces to dance under a waterfall at 15 because she's too hot? An awkward scene explaining Romeo and Juliet laws incorrectly?

All the pedophilia and none of the gay robots. Michael Bay is a hack and a pervert.

>>149177462
Lol

People mostly look back at his old movies negatively, don’t they? How is this gonna save the franchise. I just want a Transformers One sequel

>>149177605
Just people terminally online. The movies are well regarded in the mainstream

>>149176627
Fact, you need a brand new cast.
>Rodimus as a Starship Truck
>Hot Shot as a tuned Toyota GT86
>Springer as a Military truck
>First Aid as a medic car
>Ultra Magnus as a Western Star

>>149177605
Zoomers are nostalgic to bayverse, they grew up with it, reddit don't represent audiences, neither twitter do

Instagram actually represents them better

>>149176584
It's a bad movie

>>149176494 (OP)
Seriously? Hasn't Hasbro realized that Transformers is a dying brand? They already burned it into the ground so badly that normies don't give a damn about it anymore. And I would argue that normies never cared.

I see Transformers especially the Bay movies in the same way as Cameron's Avatar. Idiot normies buy into it but don't really like it. And eventually the normies WILL move on. Look if even brands like Batman aren't an assured billion dollar success at the box office going by the last movie then Transformers is deader than dead. The brand can't compete against Batman as such trying to make a new Transformers movies only makes audiences yawn with disinterest.

>>149177878
What should Hasbro do instead? Put the IP on hiatus?

>>149178003
That would be a good thing. Sometimes the best thing you can do for a franchise is let it go dormant at least for ten years of radio silence.

And then do stuff again with it so that it feels "fresh" without needing to be genuinely fresh. If these corporations think they can nonstop spam something its going to tire audiences. Look at the current state of Ninja Turtles constant reboots to the point people are tired and burned out. That's what's happening to Transformers. You got to let the damn franchise rest.

>>149177031
Accurate to her G1 character then,

Bay made me like Bumblebee as a kid desu
The radio gimmick was cool

>>149176494 (OP)
>summer blockbuster classic

>>149176781
Ah, another Spider-Man situation

>>149176846
He won't because he doesn't have much of a case.
BUT, he has the power to kill their merger with Skydance if his FFC doesn't approve it. I think that will likely happen because he really, really, really hates CBS.

>>149176584
They fucked up the latam dub and latam is the biggest consumer when it comes to animated movies

These movies aren’t going to be as horny as the old ones for sure. I can see modern Hollywood favoring that

>>149176584
>Why did nobody see Transformers One?
It was mediocre, and felt like a special movie episode for daytime children's television.

>>149177730
Rodimus should be a Lamborghini LM002 SUV
Hot Shot should be a Mercedes CLK GTR

So to sum it up there's a new movie confirmed and a whole heap of rumor and hearsay

>>149177698
Well regarded is pushing it, people liked the special effects in the first few movies and the novelty died by the fourth or fifth movies

test

>>149177215
> Bay, the auteur of explosions and up-skirt shots that defined the first five mega-grossers, had sworn off directing the franchise since his Shia LaBeouf–free Transformers: The Last Knight earned just $600 million in 2017
Bay was complaining a few months ago about not being able to sell movies to studios now, I get the feeling this is partly him basically crawling back for regular work

>>149178952
They weren't even good horny though. I want horny Arcee moments.

>>149179029
Nah, screw SUV. Rodimus should looks like something from the future, and the starship truck (or others concept trucks from the supertruck program) fits the bill.

>>149176584
I cant tell in usa, but in my country publicity was almost nonexistent while the dub got ruined because they thoughts having famous youtubers instead of actual voice actors was a great idea.

>>149176494 (OP)
fucking retards

>>149176584
Did you see that trailer? I almost didn't see it because of that and the only reason I did was because of people I trust swearing to me that it wasn't a kiddy fart 'n giggle Cgslop fest like the trailer made it out to be.

>>149176494 (OP)
I'm a simple man. I see Michael Bay, I refuse to watch.

>Transformers is flopping
>bring back the guy who turned the series into a punchline about bad films

I hate Hollywood.

>>149180165
Punchline that did gross billions, i kinda see where their logic lies.

>>149180245

Except Last Knight. Which suggests franchise fatigue. They need to let it rest for a decade or so, let people get nostalgic.

>>149180253
Last Knight was almost a decade ago and no one's seen the movies that came after it. Perfect timing.

>>149176584
No humans no watch

>>149180443
Did people really care for the human cast of the Bay movies? I thought they disliked Sam for being awkward and whiny. Then they hated Mark Whalberg’s character for replacing Sam. No one really seemed to care about the newest lead in RotB either.

>>149180443

Don't encourage them.

>>149176494 (OP)
>can't buy War for Cybertron anymore
>can't buy Fall of Cybertron anymore
>can't buy Devastation anymore
>Reactivate cancelled
>no marketing for TF One
>make nothingburger shows like Cyberverse and Earthspark
>toy side of things is a fucking mess too
>no character bios on toy packaging
>main toyline being renamed every year because Hasbro wants to do video game "seasons"
>Beast Wars and some G1 characters thrown together in one toyline. Life action and some more G1 characters in another and so on
Anyone who blames Bay or franchise fatigue is just coping. The Transformers brand is struggling because it's being mishandled.

>>149180727

Whats wrong with the toys? They've been great lately.

>>149180748
I'm not talking about the toy figures themselves, but they way they're being marketed.

>>149180787

Okay, yeah, it could be better.

The bigger issue is this "A Level" crap.

>>149180727
>nothingburger shows like Cyberverse
nah, Cyberverse is actually good.

>>149180727
>>main toyline being renamed every year because Hasbro wants to do video game "seasons"
Are you really young? You seem to be an ESL too.
They've been doing yearly/bi-yearly renames since the 90s...
Line rebrands/sublines, like waves, are due to how retailers purchase items.
Same with mixing series in those lines.

>>149176494 (OP)
We're so back, Baybros

>>149180921
>They've been doing yearly/bi-yearly renames since the 2000s
ftfy

>>149180966

Technically Japan was doing it back in the late 80s/early 90s.

>>149177605
Only big nerds. (and big cinema critics, but it's not like Bay was aiming the movie at those dudes anyway).
The Bay movies are entering the nostalgia hot-zone and he has more history of success with the brand on movies than anyone else.

>>149180982
true, but this was also during the Japanese recession

>>149180966
No, even Beast Wars itself was a brand rename. Early materials had it as a G2 subline before they changed it around and made BW the header and Transformers the subheader.
Transmetals and Fuzors and TMIIs were the sublines for that series.

>>149180589
they may find them annoying, but to most normies the Tranformers are just special effects. Most normies would never remember the TF names besides Bumblebee, Optimus, and Megatron after watching the movies.

>>149176584
1. Bad marketing made it look like a MCU quipfest.

2. Normalfags (especially Americans) HATE animation and don’t consider it real cinema. It is why most of the Disney live-action remakes make more money than their animated counterparts (DUDE! PRIDE ROCK! MEMBER!). Show a normie (especially a Muttmerican) a “cartoon” and watch them piss and shit themselves in anger.

>>149180589
I liked sam chadwicky

>>149181093
>Transmetals and Fuzors and TMIIs
But those lines had their own designs and gimmicks that set them apart from each other. Modern sublines like Velocitron Something Something or Buzzworthy Bumblebee come across as weird mashups.

>>149181427
It's also because it was competing against another animated movie that has a robot and was releasing a week after (namely DreamWorks' The Wild Robot), and parents took their kids to watch that, which explains why a lot of normie parents have no clue what Transformers are outside of the Michael Bay movies

>>149181540
Those are capsule lines for stores

>>149181540
That's equivalent to something like Machine Wars or the target Dinobots line, which we also had back then

>>149181538
Who knows if Shia LaBeouf is ever gonna return as Sam, but he should

>>149181427
normies these days watch anime, but they aren't going to watch American cartoons in theaters. They wouldn't watch anime in theaters for the most part, either. Animation is considered "cheap" in that most expect it to come free

>>149181691
Sam is old news. It's time for Agent Simmons to shine

>>149181691

He doesn't want to come back.

>>149181767
and neither does Mark Wahlberg, and he's much worse

>>149181762
ONE MAN
ALONE

>>149181821
ha
you beat me to it

So, is this going to be a reboot of the 2007 movie?

>>149181898
No. It's a continuation from the 5th movie

>>149181898
>Sam buys a Cybertruck

>>149181911
feels like that's a bit too long to make a sequel to a movie that's the least popular of Bay's quintology.

>>149181898

I doubt they decided yet.

>>149176584
IT LOOKED PIXAR

>>149181898
>Sam get ipad
>ipad transforms
>ipad defeat decepticon
>Optimus get Cybertruck
>Cybertruck voiced by ghost of Marlon Brando
https://youtu.be/9lGv2Jr_t-A?t=5

>>149176584
it was released a week before another robot movie from DreamWorks and Paramount took no action

>>149176494 (OP)
Please, God, just let it have a decent story and characters that look like they normally do (not like a pile of scrap metal walking around).

>>149182314
Hot Rod as a black car who looks like Bumblebee with a silly french accent, got it.

>>149176591
lol

>>149179774
LM002 already looks like a dystopian sci-fi pickup

>>149176847
The general sentiment when the Bayformers films were coming out was that the first one was a fun film and it just got progressively worse from there

Could Optimus maybe fight somebody besides Megatron?

>>149176494 (OP)
>Since Marvel and DC oversaturated the market with capeshit now is time for Paramount to oversaturate the market with a almost dead franchise.

>>149176494 (OP)
On a related note

www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2025-05-16/transformers-tease-new-evangelion-collaboration/.224430

A Transformers and Evangelion collaboration is coming

Pfhahahhahahah
90s Animated series trannies LOST. One and bumblebee two movies flopped
Boomers you need to die already lmao

>>149180443
as a youngin' the humans were annoying. now Im grown and I get it, seeing giant robots fight loses the context of how dangerous and cool it is unless you see humans involved in it. also the robots having human personalities and wanting to protect smaller lifeforms emphasizes their heroism

>Pfhahahhahahah
>90s Animated series trannies LOST. One and bumblebee two movies flopped
>Boomers you need to die already lmao