Talk about French comics and cartoons.

>>149178368 (OP)
I hope someone will make a mega link to the Dad comics (the french ones at least)

>>149178368 (OP)
I made a spanish translation of Wat, made by the same guy, it was about fairies and such. Not as good as Les Sisters, only 2 volumes.

I sure hope this thread won't turn into paedophilia.

Just got back from France, I got the first comics format part of Romain Hugault's new book Godspeed, not all that much to go on at the moment, but the drawing is as good as ever. It's nice to have Hugault back doing propeller planes again. He also has a new volume of pin-up wings out, but I didn't get that.

Other thing I bought was Terre Verte, which is about Richard III having faked his death and going off to Greenland. Haven't started that yet.

I want a reboot of Clementine

>>149178368 (OP)
I find the French's consistent use of lolis in suggestive situations to be intriguing.

>>149178869
How is going for a swim suggestive? Coom-addled nonce.

>>149178368 (OP)
Les Sisters is overrated mid slop. Kids will read anything.

>>149178968
Who said I was talking about that comic in particular? Then again Les Sisters has some cute and funny moments. Same can be said for other French comics and cartoons.

Some comics I'm looking forward to coming out.

Marc-Antoine Matthieu (the guy who did Julius Corentin Acquefacques) has his next book coming out, it's called L'Infiniment Moyen et plus si infinités dans les limites finies d'une édition minimaliste (Hard to translate as there's a joke in there too I think, but basically The infinitely average and even more infinite within the finite limits of a minimalist edition). The book itself will be the size of a matchbox and come with a magnifying glass to read it. It'll still be 88 pages so probably a real pain in the dick to read, but I love Mathieu's experimentations with format.

Les Sentiers d'Anahuac also looks like it might be good. About the class between the pre-Columbian civilisations and Europe. All the European elements in a black and white engraving style and the American bits in colour and a more codex-like style.

>>149179017
No, you just project your disgusting paedolust onto innocent shit. You should kill yourself.

>>149178368 (OP)
Cute

>>149179099
Oh anon why would you ruin your perfectly fine post with that reply? You could've taken the high road and articulated yourself better. Or just not say anything.

>>149179099
I'm gonna have to give the Aztec one a look. Somehow the French have done a lot of fucking comics about Mesoamerica in some way, or at least more than you'd expet

>>149179144
Disgusting freaks should be vocally opposed. Simply ignoring them implies tacit approval and normalises their perversion.

>>149179197
The next volume of Serpent et la Lance is out late November too, very much looking forward to that one.

I also wish there was an integrale, or at least a decent, non gayI-upscaled scan of Luxley. A mid 2000s book by Valerie Mangin (Scourge of the Gods, Alix Senator) about an alliance of magic-powered future-seeing tripping mesoamericans invading Europe during the third crusade and Robin Hood fighting a guerrilla war against them.

>>149178368 (OP)
the hat girl needs more porn. I don't even know if she has any whatsoever.

>>149179378
Hat girl is actually the artist's lewd art OC and long predates Les Sisters

>>149179378
>>149179419
It looks like she is the artist's waifu. She is the main character of her own comic. And there is official pantyshots, but everything very tame, nothing really lewd.

>>149179099
As the guy who scanlated some of Acquefacques, I'm happy to learn that he's still nuts.

Waiting for him to release single-page woodblock prints tho.

>>149179564
Heh heh, that's pretty good.

Asterix

>>149179419
I know.
She still needs more porn.

>>149178368 (OP)
Elspeth.

I wonder why /co/ only seems interested in the most childish of French media? I guess because most can't understand a lick of French, so they need bright colours, movement and visual gags to get anything out of it. That, and the paedophilia.

>>149179764
>As the guy who scanlated some of Acquefacques
Kakanian, I love you for doing this shit, and I hate you for stopping.

This is canon!

>>149179960
>I wonder why /co/ only seems interested in the most childish of French media?
Kids shows are the most likely French media to make it overseas in any "official" form, TV especially. Makes sense that they'd have more cultural relevance here

>>149179618
That comic came after the success of Les Sisters. Hat girl was in sketchbooks and a now purged lewd blog long before them.

Why are there so few franco-belgian comics aimed at older audiences? It's all fairly family friendly stories that are accessible to kids, even if there is the occasional lewd design or a book is full of political subtext.

>>149180221
You have never been into a French comic book shop, have you?

>>149180234
You've got French artistic / erotic comics, you've got the Franco-Belgian ones, then you've got a huge gap in the middle as no one seems to want to make a middle ground of mature themes done in a lighter way more 'comic' art. Sometimes you want a good light hearted drama that isn't filled with detailed penetration shots and hairy women

>>149180221
There's a whole bunch. They're just not the ones that interest 4chan

Emma is great

Also Titeuf fucking sucks dick

>>149180436
She's autistic and she's cool.

>>149180307
I don't really understand you, is your only criterion for maturity sex? You want porn books but in a more cartoony style? Or just trolling?

>>149180307
There are a lot of french comics like you describe, anon. I've bought a couple this year. Jordi Lafebre is Spanish, but he lives and draws in France.

>>149180535

>>149180535
Highly gay that they stopped the English translation of this with a couple of volumes to go. That and Chateau des Etoiles should really be picked back up in English. Oh well, at least I'm not a monolingual pleb. What other books have you got recently, anon?

>>149180551

>>149180574
His forthcoming book is a murder mystery and will be published by Dark Horse.

>>149180587
This is already out in digital btw, from Europe Comics.

>>149178368 (OP)
Got mega?

>>149180559
I got a couple of Bastien Vives short books; The Blouse and A Sister. Also the six volumes of Last Man in english.

And pic related.

>>149178368 (OP)
A lot of Euro comics make me confront the uncomfortable truth that I'm just fucking retarded.

I read Enki Bilal's Monster and I just was left feeling like there was so much there I wasn't getting.

>>149179809
Ok, I've seen all the Asterix animated movies and this is my opinion.

>Asterix the Gaul.
It's a very funny movie. I won't talk about the animation because it was the first film and it was released in 1967.
>Asterix and Cleopatra.
It's a notable improvement over the first, a funny movie.
>The Twelve Tasks of Asterix.
It maintains its level and I like the jokes.
>Asterix Versus Caesar.
Meh, I don't like it much. It seems more like a movie with Asterix than a movie about Asterix.
>Asterix in Britain.
Very funny. I like the jokes and the origin of tea.
>Asterix and the Big Fight.
As funny as the previous one.
>Asterix Conquers America.
I love it, I have no complaints.
>Asterix and the Vikings.
I hate it. It doesn't seem like an Asterix movie; it seems like a movie with Asterix.
>Asterix: The Mansions of the Gods
Oh boy, I had my doubts about the CGI, but they managed to adapt the style perfectly, and it's a very fun story about Asterix confronting the advances of society.
>Asterix: The Secret of the Magic Potion.
The animation is good, like the previous one, but the story... it's a mess, not because it's bad per se, but because there are too many things going on. There are like 6 or 7 different stories, and I don't think any of them have enough time.

>>149180307
>then you've got a huge gap in the middle as no one seems to want to make a middle ground of mature themes done in a lighter way more 'comic' art.
Les Formidables Aventures de Lapinot started in '97.

Jesus Christ, go and stay go. Preferably over a cliff.

jumping into water wearing a float is going to hurt.

>>149181242
I don't think there's anything wrong about not getting everything in a book that's about somebody working through his mental hang-ups about the collapse of the multi-ethnic dictatorship they grew up in.

>>149178761
>I sure hope this thread won't turn into paedophilia
Anon, it's a thread about french comics

>>149178761
Shut up, cuckold.

>>149178368 (OP)
Anyone else read the Dwarfs series? I think it's neat.

>>149179809
Thats right.

>>149182768
cool, it was time for a new adventure.

If people want adult French ....

>>149180736
I have been meaning to read this at some point, I'll probably wait until the series is finished though. And I meant to get that new Vives series, Lune de Miel, reminded me of those 80s movies like Romancing the Stone a little bit. Didn't have room in my backpack though.

>>149184404
Can't believe they managed such a shit artstyle with such beautiful source material

>>149182817
They now have a 2 years between books schedule.
Not very quick, but probably a good pacing to make a comic that people like to read.

>soleil edition
Artbook - Les filles de Soleil - picrel is only safe image: >>>/aco/8880753

>>149187006
later issues had safer images

>>149187099
by Frédéric Genêt who illustrated Samurai - Legend

>>149178368 (OP)
Has #8 been released in english yet?

Is there french anon in this thread?

>>149188672
oui

>>149178869
The french believe kids love fanservice and are not body shy, it's that simple
It's not meant to be fanservice for adults

>>149179885
Gawayn is french?
Also fuck sir Roderick

>>149178869
truth is: /co/ being mostly american, they ONLY care about THOSE 1 or 2 french comics. Not about the actual classics.

>>149187099
Ahah, same artist who made racist Spirou

>>149189780
That's political Spirou for you.

>>149189850
No, actual political Spirou was stuff like Ankou or the Dictator and the Mushroom.

>>149178368 (OP)
God, the French are so based.

>>149189879
There's a joke about there being two races - white and political.

>>149189937
Yet that book was the whotest Spirou ever made

>>149189850
the album itself wasn't even really political, it's just drawing blacks old school with heavy shadowing that triggered people. the other complaints like stupidity and fast food was a jab at americans not blacks.

>>149190756
>it's just drawing blacks old school with heavy shadowing that triggered people
Nah man, That twitter controversy attempt was about a much more recent book, drawn by the sex joke guy.

>>149190794
I think that's The Blue Gorgon. I was there on Twitter when the drama was happening and some people were saying that the story was anti-feminist propaganda. My French isn't good though, so I can't verify whether or not that's actually true.

>>149190756
>wasn't even really political
One of the bad guys was literally Trump crossed with Musk

>>149191077
He's talking about the album where Spirou got Blackface'd.

>>149191095
This discussion started with art by Dany being posted, so no, it's not about that one.

>>149179809
This comic is just french cope about getting conquered by Rome and latinized

>>149191193
>latinized
Why are americans so retarded

>>149191077
When was Trump ever political? He's an influencer.

Thoughts on Gaston Lagaffe?

>>149191311
Zut Alors.

>>149179985
Why the spoiler?

>>149192226
Because 4chan idiots think Cedric is the most hardcore adult thing ever somehow

>>149178368 (OP)
the french are so based

>>149193939
early artstyle was really ugly

>>149179809
Kick Romans. Punch Romans. Roundhouse kick a Roman into Obelix's favourite menhir. Slam dunk Ceasarion into Unhygienix's fish stall. Crucify filthy Latins. Defecate in a Roman's grape bowl. Launch Romans to the mansions of their Apollo. Stir Romans in a cauldron. Toss Romans into Vesuvius. Urinate into a Romans chariot. Judo throw Romans into each other. Twist Romans helmets off. Report Romans to Cleopatra. Karate chop Romans in half. Curb stomp pregnant Latin Romans. Trap Romans in quicksand. Crush Romans in the village. Liquefy Romans in a vat of magic potion. Eat boars. Dissect Romans. Exterminate Romans in the fortified camps of Aquarium, Totorum, Laudanum and Compendium. Stomp Roman skulls with sheepskin boots. Cremate Romans in the oven. Lobotomize Romans. Mandatory child sacrifices for Romans. Grind Roman fetuses in the druid's mortar. Drown Romans in garum. Vaporize Romans with one of Getafix's potions. Kick old Julius down the stairs. Feed Romans to alligators. Slice Romans with a shortsword, by Toutatis!

After seeing various maps of the United States featuring American cartoons in their respective states, I wanted to do the same with France and its regions. I'm open to any suggestions to complete or improve the map.

>>149179378
She looks like she stumbled into Sisters from a different, oversexualized comic.

>>149179419
>>149195142
Ok my question is answered. Its so weird because she definately looks like someone's lewd OC... and the artist put her in a comic with his daugther comic version. Weird.

>>149195128
California, especially LA is gonna be hard to choose

>>149180551
Why is the gay ass dad constantly staring at asses?

>>149195142
Sisters is plenty sexualized.

>>149195806
Off yourself.

>>149195816
Lazy fucking zoomer wants everything done for him. If you want me dead, be a man and kill me yourself. I'm not doing your dirty work for you.

>>149195806
Unfriendly reminder that nothing about these shitty edits is funny.

>>149196512
If you say so.

What was that thing they had to do last week?

>>149191193
The comic is the formulated patriotism and fighting oppression. Thats why it works so well for today non-historian, it works as a “us vs them“, versus goverment.

>>149195048
Thats a good clist why it still is beloved today!

>>149178368 (OP)
>French
If that includes French language comics, we can add Tintin and Yoko Tsuno.

>>149191193
>This comic is just french cope about getting conquered by Rome and latinized

Rome conquered most of the known world. Nothing particularly shameful about that, so there's no reason to cope either.

>>149179099
>French
>innocent

>France is now majority brown
>French comics have naked little girls in them
Really makes u think

Why do I Iove this comic so much, when it's such a bore?

>>149195806
>>149196609
>>149196743
Unfunny.

>>149198699

>>149198658
The Lucky Star principle?

I used to watch these guys when I lived abroad many years ago

>>149198951
four robbers

>>149191193
>>149191193
Laughs in Alix.

>>149178368 (OP)
>French
Sorry, jeune pas le pas le Français.

>>149191311
Why does he walk around in frayed socks? Don't French people wear shoes?

>>149198891
How ESL R U?

>>149187279
You can buy it but I haven't seen any scans of this one yet.

le bump

>>149197271
>France is now majority brown
Citation needed

>>149204149
The fact that they did the work required to get the US going strongly indicates that they're black, actually.

>>149202931
He’s Belgian, and those *are* his shoes.

>>149202950

>>149198931
>The Lucky Star principle
Is that a real thing, or you just made it up?

I'm honestly pretty sure the dad who created the sisters (comic/persons) desires them.
Do I blame him? Well, I think he found a healthy way to express his desire without hurting them. If only more parents were like him...

>>149204603
That is called projection, anon.

>>149204715
No it isn't, it's based on data and facts.

>>149204461
Still unfunny.

>>149204603
>>149204720
>it’s based on me being a projecting pedo
Fixed.

>>149204720
The data and facts are that this comic was created 19 years ago, so the artists real life daughters would be well into their twenties if not their thirties by now.

>>149189103
Yes

>>149204807

Manson.

>>149204603
Go get your injections and remember to stay away from daycare centers.

>>149204807
>>149204819
>>149205033
You negroes are, I hope, aware of the fact that France has an incest crisis.
Right?

>>149202743
I just remember his homoerotic relationship with that brown kid

>>149189039
What do you and your people. Think about the French fries?

>>149202931
I think it's mentioned in one comic that he's wearing cheap and worn espadrillos./rope-soled shoes.

>>149205781
>France has an incest crisis
What?

>>149205781
As /k/ would say, "What blew up today?"

>>149207783
It's a real crisis. Of course It's a horrible thing that happens in every single country, but of all the countries that don't culturally and traditionally see women as property, France is the one with the worst crisis of daughters being badtouched by their dads.

>>149205781
it's fake. associations create fake drama to get free state money to "fight" it. Never trust an association studie, those guys are not specialist or anything.

>>149205781
>France has an incest crisis
Lol no, that's just the current scare far-right organizations have been spouting. In fact that's what they tried to use against Vives.

>>149205781
You mean French Muslims have a consangunity crisis. The average Frenchman will fuck almost anything on two legs except his relations.

>>149208994
>In fact that's what they tried to use against Vives.
Vives is perfectly safe - one look at his face and you just know that you'll need a thrid person in the room at all times.

>>149204892
Manson on Disney?

>>149178368 (OP)
Do french canadian count?

>>149209284
They speak the same language so sure.

>>149209054
>The average Frenchman will fuck almost anything on two legs except his relations.

Right-o.

>>149209335
>For evidence, look at this absurd comic!

>>149209171
I mean, he's actually safe because he just got to walk away from court scott free

>>149179010
Just say mid slop, "overrated" is an empty filler word that if you look closers doesn't actually tell anyone anything about the product outside of "I don't like that this is popular" in a cowardly way.

>>149181242
Are you an American?
You're NOT retarded, just miseducated so you won't be any threat to the powers to be. Now that your eyes have been opened as how little you actually KNOW, start looking around and the first step is to NOT believe ANYTHING the gov tells you. You live in a manufactured reality, created for you by the government working hand in hand with your media.

>>149209183
Yes, Disney Channel Only on Germany, Netherlands and Spain.

Opinions on censorship?

>>149180535
Lafebre is so fucking good. My favorite is Always Never.

>>149209335
>you never see the blonde get fucked

Sad!

>>149210085
Left: American comic

Right: European comic

>>149206765
I remember an old american TV movie I saw on a kids channel. It was about an american girl arriving in Paris and meeting a french boy who will be her lover. At some point, they meet a snob french cuistot, and the american girl show to him what's an hamburger and french fries and how awesome they are.

It confused me be even if it was in french, I was still thinking "wait, it's an american movie, so in the original version, they are saying FRENCH fries, so isn't it a bit stupid if the FRENCH cuistot doesn't know about FRENCH fries?"

>>149209335
This comic is actually a parody of this one. Years later, they cancelled Bastien Vives because of this.

>>149204887
get better jokes and a new font retard

>>149210581
Was he supposed to be funny? It looks like something a 16 yr old would write. :-/

>>149210085
I dun like it. I enjoy nippies.
Also, I hate prudes.

Does anyone remember when Maki by Fabrice Tarrin used to get posted on /co/ for a little while? The first volume "A Lemur at camp" got some translations, but the whole volume was never fully translated.

An anon scanned the second volume "Bravo la Famille", but that link is long dead.
I'm just curious how it ended since I realize it's been over 12 years since I first saw this and I still don't know what happens past where the translations for volume 2 stopped.

>>149210581
>>149210699
no, it's something /co/ would write 16 years ago.

>>149210573
Vives isn't cancelled. He's one of the busiest comic artists I know. Not saying noone tried, but obviously they failed.

My Relaxed and Beautiful

>>149210573
Translation for those of us who don't read frog?

I wound up reading Lastman, and I had a very bitter chuckle after the timeskip.
Meat is banned, citing that Tomie Katana wants a "healthier society," but amidst the onions burgers and vegan bullshit, they're still all smoking like chimneys and casually drinking. Frenchie's gonna French, eh?[/spoiler ]

>>149211814

>>149210573
>they cancelled Bastien Vives
They cancelled him so hard he got to work on Corto Maltese.

>>149178494
More on this

>50 years of Fluid Glaciale
do you like it?

>>149195128
Uh, interesting.

So, I guess that is easy to say that most are placed in París due that's hard, I guess again, to place some /co/ material out of capital state, right?

>>149211814
>>149213030
I remember going to his blog around 2010. He drew an anecdote about his tall friend who told him his Japanese wife had a kink about being tied up in bed in the dark. Too bad I didn't save it back then.

>>149214883
He keep winning at court but french publishers cant really hire him anymore. Belgium didnt care thought.

>>149209284
This is never getting finished right?

>>149215217
He has been taken to court once and it was dismissed on a technicality as there is no proof the alleged offences happened within the geographic jurisdiction of the court. Yes, his most recent books are with Casterman, but that's been the case for most of his career, and he is still releasing things with smaller French publishers like the Charlotte Mensuel people.

>>149215274
>as there is no proof the alleged offences happened within the geographic jurisdiction of the court.
In the future, I'll use that whenever I think somebody's making shit up.

I would be repeating myself if I complained about Donjon/Dungeon’s English translation getting stopped halfway.

>>149215318
To be honest they are accusing him of providing material for potential criminals to do potential crimes. That’s like a car maker because a criminal could buy their car to comit a crime. Its not even " did" its "could".

>>149211814
I think they are doing it wrong.

>>149210085
I dont mind both versions. Because it isnt important to the story or joke. And i am not a coomer or pervert.
If you insist on right, than i wonder if the CIA should make a file of you.

>>149180736
I want to read this but in my country they've only released the first book and it's like 35 euros. Is it worth it?

>>149215651
Right not only has a cuter bottom piece, you also see she's been spanked which is part of the story.
Sorry to read a topless little girl is a no go area in your part of the world.

>>149215867
She was simply sunburnt.

>>149215651
>Because it isnt important to the story or joke.
It literally is. Also, fuck censorship, no matter the reason for it.

>>149215447
That's not true either though, he was accused of:
"fixation et transmission en vue de la diffusion d’images à caractère pédopornographique"
i.e. production and transmission with a view to dissemination of child pornography images, a crime in and of itself under article 227-23, and this covers both "real" images like photos and representations like drawings.

If it ever had gotten/does get to a competent court, the crux of the argument would be/would have been whether it was pornographic in nature, a key point of the penal code article. So they'll be arguing over whether it was just humorous or meant to titillate or what.

>>149210085
>>149216017
>It literally is
What is the source of the left-hand image? Because it looks like everything but the girl is vignetted out so there is no story or joke. I'm willing to keep an open mind, but it seems you may just be a disingenuous faggot, since it's intact in the papercutz scan/rip I have.

>>149215755
That's double the price it is in France, and you have no idea if it'll ever finish. No, it's not worth it. Unless it's like a 2-in-1 compilation.

>>149216063
It's kinda funny how the "It's only a joke, bro." defense is actually a legal reality here.

Here's what i'm about to read next. Anybody can tell if it worth it ?
It's girls trying to speedrun climbing the social ladder, from a poor bitch living in the slum to empress. She got a clock that show here current social statut and when she need to change it.
It's made by two women authors so I expect at least few feminist bs but i like the concept and the art is apealing. There is some nudes in it.

>>149195128
Corsica :

>>149215755
I bought them from amazon (UK) and delivery was free to me in Australia, due to Prime free delivery being global. It worked out much cheaper than 35 euro per book.

I'm always wary now to compare prices between other stores and amazon, simply because international delivery charges for books are insane. For me to buy elsewhere the book has to be special and unavailable anywhere else, like kickstarter special editions and things like Flesk books.

>>149212079
https://english.emmaclit.com/2017/05/20/you-shouldve-asked/

In short, it's feminist twaddle. Vives parodied it with this family offering biblical hospitality to the guest, complete with complimentay blowjobs.

>>149216063
That crime was slapped on the law recently and means nothing because the law itself formerly stated the books were ok. Thats why the feminists are now trying to go around the former verdict with " an imaginary criminal could totally groom a kid with the book one day even though all statistic disprove that scenario".

>>149195128
Les Sisters is actually set in the region you put Dream Land in as this bridge (which is an iconic landmark to that region) is seen in the background of several Les Sisters strips.

>>149195128
You can put Pyrenee (a infamous Comic about a naked little girl living in the mountains), Liloo and 24 Hours in the Stone Age (2 comics both featuring cave-girls) where you put Dream Land or the region to the left of it as that's the regions where the prehistoric sites in France are, along with Lou!, Titeuf and most of the TCHO! Le Magazine (seen here) strips where you put Le College Noir as that's the region where the company that produces them (Glénat) is based and where Lou! Herself lives as she's lives in Lyon.

>>149180453
Don't insult the TCHO! Le Magazine stuff and some of the newer French comics as I think they should've gotten translated into other languages (even though they did translate a few Titeuf and Tony & Alberto strips for a UK comic around 20 years ago) as many of the strips they've had have very similar art styles, set up and Humor to the cartoons Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, Disney Channel, Teletoon along with some Anime, and Web/Indie cartoons have also had over the years and it'll be like seeing what I've just described has met it's match if they got translated.

>>149216673
>That crime was slapped on the law recently
Not especially, the article as was in 1998 already stated
>Le fait, en vue de sa diffusion, de fixer, d'enregistrer ou de transmettre l'image ou la représentation d'un mineur lorsque cette image ou cette représentation présente un caractère pornographique est puni de trois ans d'emprisonnement et de 300 000 F d'amende.

It has nothing to do with the grooming, it's just about the child porn angle.

>means nothing because the law itself formerly stated the books were ok.
The law did not and does not state anything about the books itself. The law states generalities, and rulings on specific cases are down to the judiciary system. Previously, no complaints were brought to trial for various reasons, that does not necessarily mean he is innocent or guilty.

>Thats why the feminists are now trying to go around the former verdict
Again, there is no "former verdict", he has been to court once, this year. No verdict was issued because it could not be established that it was the right court. This has no bearing on innocence or guilt. All previous complaints against him were not brought to court, it was decided not to prosecute for various reasons. Again, this does not indicate innocence or guilt.

>" an imaginary criminal could totally groom a kid with the book one day even though all statistic disprove that scenario".
That is not the potential offense and the rationale for the case, that is what some pressure groups have said in their messaging around the books, you need to distinguish between the two.

Look, I think it's bullshit too, but you should get your facts straight. It's not even le feminists boogeymen that are going after him, it's the anti-incest and anti-kiddy-rape pressure groups.

>>149215211
If it was a drawing then it might've been included with the translated stuff from that blog that's still up.

>>149216485
>https://english.emmaclit.com/2017/05/20/you-shouldve-asked/

>>149217545
same energy

>>149215217
Lol no, publishers don't give a shit. Like while waiting for the trial he's been invited to draw fucking Corto Maltese

>>149217603
The bitch should be grateful that someone with such a big cock decided to get her pregnant.

>>149217603
It's funny that the arrow points directly at the guy's dick.

>>149209335

>>149217936
I see we're saving the same pages, anon.

>>149178368 (OP)
>Japanese Manga gets 18 pages a week or 20 pages a month depending on the magazine
>American comics get 20 pages a month
>Franco-Belgian comics get 48 pages every 1 or 2 years, sometimes more
Somebody explain to me why French artists are so much slower.

>>149218201
>Pages are bigger with more panels per page
>The art has more detail
>Artists have no assistants
>Many of the non-story comics like Les Sisters are published in a magazine where they do one page a week
>On a per page basis, French comics are more expensive (an album with 48 pages costs more than a volume of a Manga), so artists presumably get paid more
>Some artists are doing multiple series at once, or do other jobs on the side

>>149217603
cause it is. feminist comic. what so you the think the "clit" in the url means?

>>149218201
That's a generalisation. Half this thread has been a bullshit discussion about Bastien Vives. The dide is prolific.

>>149218327
At least some of the artists use assistants though I can't remember to have seen them credited on the works. For instance Herge (Tintin) was asssted by Roger Leloup (Yoko Tsuno).

>>149217936
Nippies!

>>149218764
Hergé might not be the best example because Tintin was just so successful that he could easily afford to have multiple assistants.

>>149218201
More detailed art and more research.

>>149218446
Vives is working in the manga/fast drawer style, where art's good enough as long as it communicates the intent of that specific panel.

>>149218201
This >>149218327
Mangas are very shallow. The Mangas with the same amount of work on a page like french BD are not published as your monthly 8-20 pagers.

>>149178368 (OP)
>les sisters
poor man's les nombrils

>>149219156
And now a standard manga page.

>>149219177
Now a good manga page.

>>149219356
Yeah, BDs rarely do pages spreads like this in the middle of the story, it's considered a waste of valuable page real estate.

>>149219000
>>149218764
>>149218327
A bunch of them use assistants, and some are organized in studios to share the workload. Like, a lot of the 70s-80s Journal de Spirou artists were ex Peyo assistants or ghost artists on the smurfs, and got some of their own in turn.

Natacha artist Walthery was a Peyo assistant, Scrameustache artist Gos was Walthery's assistant.
Second and third Soda artists Gazzotti (of Alone fame) and Dan were Tome & Janry's assistant on Spirou and Petit Spirou, and Dan was Morris' on Lucky Luke before that. Tarrin and Emile bravo were part of Trondheim's studio. Tome was one of Dupa's assistants on Cubitus. Will, Morris and Franquin were all Jijé's assistants.

Eddy Paape's Uncle Paul, who anons probably only tangentially know through being parodied in Spirou's Youth, had a whole bunch of future franco-belgian big names work on it.


Also some cases of authors having their kids as assistants, like Gos & Walt for Scrameustache or Will and Maltaite for Tif & Tondu.

Muhc like the japanese model, it's a way to do your apprenticeship under a seasoned author and network, and potentially to be a successor to one of their series.

>>149215974

>>149219356
The white dots probably took the second longest to apply.

>>149219356
Still >>149219156 was more work.

>>149216697
jesus what an ugly as fuck bridge.

I miss Melusine so much.

>>149219156
>Monthly manga vs anual french comic
Kek
>"Manga are shallow! I need tons of text to understand things! I can't use my brain to think!"

>>149220170
>anual french comic
Not sure if Asterix does this, but many "annual" french books are made on a weekly basis with a new page appearing in magazines like Spirou.

Nombrils and Melusine definitely had that, and some pages were actually revised, removed, or totally changed, between the magazine version and the finished books.

>>149218020
I prefer the one with my girl more...

>>149217936
Thanks storytimes' thread for show me its existence.

>>149220658
>>149220704

>>149218201
>>Japanese Manga gets 18 pages a week or 20 pages a month depending on the magazine
geez how??

Anyone still have that story time of Sunny Bay? I can’t even find it on desuarchive

>>149220785
>"My French ass can only cherry pick because I can't cope with the french inferiority."

>>149219744
Have you seen ikebana? Simple lines and structures, yet very elegant. It is quite likely that the dots were very carefully placed to achieve the atmosphere of the story.

>>149220008
I don't equate countless lines with quality though it may very well have taken a long time.

>>149220081
It's actually the Tallest Bridge in the world, which it has been for just over 20 years and it's even taller than the Eiffel Tower with a single span just as long as seen here

>>149182768

Considering how many references there's been to Lusitania over the years, it seems odd that they're just now getting around to Portugal.

>>149220277
>Melusine nombrils
Both styles are simple, and yet somehow it manages to be ugly.

>>149221006
and? it still looks fucking ugly.

>>149221040
Fuck off, cunt.

>>149221062
Shit is ugly as fuck.
Just look at her face.

>>149215211
You can probably find it in one of these batches. I didn't see it in any of the 2010 stuff, but I don't really know what I'm looking for and if you saw it on his blog in 2010 it's probably in one of the older batches.

https://lcbtranslations.blogspot.com/p/downloads.html

>>149221037
Weren't 2 of the Chariot Competitors in the book with the Charioteer that had the same name as COVID-19 (seen behind Asterix and Obelix in this image) from that country, as one of them to me looked like the Japanese Alien without his armour from the "worst Asterix book"?

>>149221150

Yeah, there was a Lusitanian team; generally speaking, any time there's a large group of people from different regions, there's usually a Lusitanian in there.

>>149221090

>>149220170
>I need tons of text to understand things!
>Manga is text heavy too
It really depends on the story and creative team.

>>149218201

Manga artists basically have three systems:

1)they have a team of assistants do a lot, if not most or all, of the work.
2) they do all of the work alone, killing themselves in the process.
3) they have a team of assistants but are still killing themselves.

>>149221322
Didn't they also push that "large group of people from different regions" cliche in Asterix a little further as they are two woman in Kimonos or this Dress Mulan wears (which is a Ancient Chinese one) in the Live action Cleopatra Movie and their is a similar thing to that in one of the Iznogoud books with a Native American chief somehow in an Arabian Bazaar.

>>149220602
What's that doing ITT?

>>149221411
I'm sorry little brat. Is not your fault, you are just drawn that badly :(

>>149220956
You are right, Manga really likes their lines to fill panels.

>>149220956
>Have you seen ikebana? Simple lines and structures, yet very elegant.
The point is that it's still very economic, with the inks being the most time-consuming part, followed by the white dots.

>>149221531
>mangaka kills himself
>publisher becomes sole roghts holder
How are IP rights handled in Japan and can the family inherit the rights?

>>149221037
The problem might be that Portugal is a hard terrain for an Asterix story. It was occupied by Roma early on. And Cesar fully defeated the rebellions there, so it isnt really that different as Spain from a story perspective. So they are used as a common foreign npc.

>>149221531
And what system do American artists use?

>>149221779
Pay minimum wage to the creative team until they burn out, then relaunch from issue #1 with a new team.

>>149221488
>Fan manga
Please anon. Have some respect for yourself.

>>149220892
here's the cover by the way

>>149221670
Anon, the IP rights belong to either the artist or the artist's company. It's very rare for the publisher to acquire the actual IP, because their business model is to drop the stone cold as soon as they dip.
The company's point is usually so that the artist can get a larger say in and a larger cut of side deals.

>>149221531
Then there is the creator of Ruri Dragon who demonstrated dominance - by taking extended holidays. It can be done.
Also the creator of Yokohama Kaidasho Kikou (>>149219356) has a slow output, probably stressing out the publishers.

>>149221779
Separation of labor. The main artist is the penciler, then you've got inkers, colorists, and letterers.

>>149221006
And it could have been done with a single-span, better-looking suspension bridge.

>>149222121
>feat of modern engineering
>holds multiple records
>regularly gets awards
>some retard on the internet: could totally just do it in one span bro

>>149222204
...yes? Suspension bridges are capable of far longer spans than cable-stayed bridges. There are currently two suspension bridges with a center span (part of a much longer bridge) of similar length. You'd have two shorter pylons and a clear span over the valley, with less material use and a more elegant structure.

>>149222262
The chief designer and engineer has also worked on some of the largest suspension bridges in the world. I suspect he just might have put some thought into doing it as a single-span suspension bridge.

>>149222376
A suspension bridge wouldn't have set records and made him famous. He obviously did put thought into it.

>/co/ - Bridge Architecture
I’ve seen the Millau Viaduct in person and I think it’s incredible and quite beautiful. But this is obviously a conversation between accomplished structural engineers so I’ll butt out.

>>149222422
You understand that he wasn't just given free rein to do whatever he pleased, right? There was a design selection and bidding process.

But of course you do, I am sure you are qualified and not just talking out of your arse.

>>149210573
>this one
how the fuck is a comic about a dude fucking his entire family a parody of a feminist comic

>>149178368 (OP)
>fuck man, i’ve been doing this shit for the past half hour
this is the funniest comic book cover ive ever seen

>>149222493
>There was a design selection and bidding process.
The design selection was first, and a distinctive, record-setting design would promote tourism in the tourism-heavy town of Millau. The bidding process came after that. They wanted an attention-getting bridge, and they got it. That doesn't mean that a more normal suspension bridge wouldn't have worked with less visual clutter.

>>149216074
See >>149219729
The mark IS the joke, without it the comic makes no sense.

>fag thread about french comics
>Somehow 2 fags make it about bridges

>>149223121
What, is that a bridge too far for you?

>>149223570
Kek!
Now someone modify the pic of strangling Carlos and have him violently grabbing 'her' tits instead.

>>149184404

Is there like a Mega for this show?

>>149178368 (OP)
>Talk about French comics and cartoons.
Why don't you Pierre talk more about Western cartoons and comics that often?

>>149225233
Despite shitty comics and productions, an french can't help but stick their nose up their butt so they can smell their own crap

>>149225233
ESL fucktard

>>149225828
I know you are, but what am I?

>>149225982
What do you think "Western" means, anon?

>>149225982
>Why don't you Pierre talk more about Western cartoons and comics that often?
>what am I?

Fuck knows if you're chinese or a pajeet, and who fucking cares which anyway. It's obvious what you are.

>>149223121
It's either that or paedophilia.

>>149223106
Not answering my question, eh? So you are a disingenuous faggot, that's a shame.

>>149221843
Oh. You are right. Sorry.
Here habe a current top Manga page with text and text.

>>149221936
You are right. I mixed that up. But the publisher mostly have a special publishing right. I understood this like music artists and music labels. Thats why Prince changed his name into Formely known as Prince or Taylor Swift had to go through legal loops to become independent.
And i think Manga publisher has some shares with merch.
What you describe is much more anime publishers who dont have any legal money share besides the Anime merch.

>>149223121
But the have nice bridges in Paris!

>>149228064
That is a nice bridge.

>>149229122
Indeed!

>>149179985
Chen always wore a bikini top with her swimsuit in the original comic. When they made the cartoon based on the comic they decided not to include it.

>>149222821
>3719->8xPPK
lmfao what super combo is that?

>>149180307
You should look into Anaïs Flogny and Gaëlle Geniller and their circle comics. They mostly do one shot and they're pretty interesting. Some of them are translated to english.

>>149217936

Is Swan Lake still the latest volume?

>>149228064
I wish I had a bridge like that, desu.

>>149229408
And they were right about that

>>149229408
> French
> Always wear a top.

Pick one.

>>149232033
You might nver beat London!

>>149229408
>>149179985
>>149232163
>>149232170
why are you like this? Is it autism?

>>149233006
You think he's same-fagging?

>>149232415
I would appreciate that bridge more without that ugly ass statue in the way.

>>149215169
>>149216231
>>149216697
>>149216848
Thanks everyone, I’ll make some changes going forward, even though I was originally talking about animated series, not comics. I’ll try to make two maps that represent both media. But most importantly, I’ll be using the real pre-2016 French regions, not that horrible post-2016 regional blobs. Fuck Hollande.

>>149195128
>Hollande bullshit
This is the real map.

>>149233006
>>149233834
Of course he is, he has to be

>>149229408
>>149179985
>>149232163
>>149232170

>autistic pedophile fixated on topless little girls
Many, many such cases. Sad that’s the only reason anything related to Cedric gets posted here.

Oh crap is Gurgb Still Active Every Time?

>>149232415
The towers in this one are more than 2km apart.

>>149234692
Wrong pic.

>>149234070
>Somehow, Occitanie returned
I'm okay with this, but it needs to be bigger.

You guya should read Sillage. Scifi festy girl protagonist.

>>149234893
Nice!

>>149234597
Yes! Gurgb Have a ATF Forums and Discord Every Day!

>>149217131
>>149221109
Thanks dudes, I’ll check it out.
If I remember correctly, it’s his friend who explains to the lemur that his girlfriend has a weird kink. Then there’s a flashback where the friend leaves his girlfriend tied up on the bed with the lights off. At the end, in a now completely black panel, she says 'How cruel'
I think Fabrice must have deleted his drawing after being scolded by his friend, who ended up marrying the Japanese. That’s why I must absolutely find that comic strip.

>>149235654
When I was trying to find Maki stuff a few months ago an anon pointed me at the webarchive which has the original blog. It might also be somewhere in there.

https://web.archive.org/web/20110613015147/http://www.fabricetarrin.com/blog/index.php?p1

There's 104 pages of the archive of the blog to look through though and the oldest stuff seems to be on the higher number pages.
I still can't find scans of Maki volume 2, "Bravo la Famille".

>>149223570
CARLAS!

>>149234982
Last I saw of this was the human made disease ravaged the convoy and after it was cured they broke ties with the government that forsook them.

>>149234094
>Sad that’s the only reason anything related to Cedric gets posted here.
No surprise there, Cedric is the most mid shit ever, created only because the publisher wanted a petit spirou clone with the edges filed away

Give me the French special.

Any bande dessinée you would love to see get an English adaption?

How much French content is worthwhile?

>>149239986
a fucking, shit ton of it.

>>149240002
>Shit
Well put

>>149239986
not much. most of it is bad to mediocre. Even the things that manage to stand out enough to get posted on /co/ is usually mid as fuck. Nobody will tell you Les Sister or Les Nombrils are particularly good.

>>149240120
That just means /co/ has shit taste, which shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.

>>149240120
Dungeon/Donjon is good.

>>149240120
>/co/ only talk about les sisters and les nombrils because LE GIRLS COMICS XD
>they ignore the rest
>then, they serioulsy think it represent french comics as a whole

>>149234094
Maybe you should report them, so the IPs can be compared.

>>149239986
The 90% rule always applies. But they've been at it for a long time, so plenty of good stuff remained.

>les sexters

>>149179198
Don't ever look up the age of consent in France or watch a French film. I feel like you'll be rather disillusioned.

>>149179960
Is there a bustling amount of French adult animation? We wouldn't be discussing live action or literature here.

>>149179985
CUTE!

>>149189039
Is it true people in France are speaking a weird version of French where you say the last part of a word first and only half of the first syllable next as though some kind of pig latin or is that some B.S. TikTok rumor?

>>149189077
They're right
>>149189780
Pretty based

>>149192226
Jannies are fags

>>149241588
>age of consent in France
15, not 8, you fucking nonce.

>>149241599
I don't watch cartoons, but there's plenty of alternatives to gag comics for children like The Sisters.

>>149241635
Yes, Verlan, itself being a verlanised version of l'invers. It's been used for hundreds of years, and it's now so commonly known that there are double-verlaned words to attempt to make it a bit secret again, e.g. arabe->beur->rebeu

>>149179419
>>149195142
If only Dave Mire/Peskinhead had been French we would've had 15 years of Pep Squad comics, a moderately successful animated adaptation, and at least one movie.

>>149198699
He does it for da culcha

>>149204159
Citation needed

>>149215651
> I'm not an insane censor
> But if you didn't accept my censored version you should be imprisoned
People like you are why you can get arrested in England for buying chocolate and having rubbish in your car

>>149215867
The French are based. What issue/comic is it from?

>>149241659
>nonce!
>nonce!
KYS faggot cant wait until you britnigs get banned off 4chan

>>149216074
You see, in a sane world you wouldn't be allowed to censor anything, but if you did YOU would be the one who has to provide a justification for it being necessary.

>>149216673
Feminism should be outlawed

>>149219729
Kek. Love it

>>149221062
Heh
>>149221090
Lame

>>149221886
CUTE!

>>149222112
Do they still do that now that everything's digital?
>>149222121
I like it
>>149222204
Why does a bridge get regular awards? Does it play in a semi-professional dart tournament?

>>149241348
> Report them for discussing comics and cartoons
Do fags really?

>>149241659
> there's plenty of alternatives to gag comics for children like The Sisters.
Like what?

>>149241757
My point is it is clearly a different image, maybe for a different purpose, which I am trying to figure out. So it may not in fact be censorship at all. And other anon mentioning how it's important to the story/joke is not true if it's just an isolated image for a standee or something.

>>149241887
https://www.bede.fr/bd
Pick one.

>>149241980
Thank you

Dunno if the mention of Wakfu/Dofus is probably basic bitch shit here, but has anyone read the Ogrest comics which set in the same universe?

>>149241980
It's probably not the US release, because they would've force them to add either of the girl's parents to every panel for that one.

>>149215867
Why is topless important when she got bottom spanked? Sounds like you need to justify it.

>>149216017
It isnt important.

>>149241736
I would say you are the reason there cant be normal nudity in UK or USA because you are creepy about it and coom all over it.

>>149242433

I wish I couod change...

>>149242458

>>149242473

>>149242484

>>149216074
She was spanked, see >>149219729 and the mark IS the joke.
The left is just censorship.

>>149242937
How are you not getting this? If the left image is not part of a strip, and just a standalone image, which the vignetting indicates, then there is no story and no joke. I want to know where the left image comes from, because I have not seen it before.

>>149243097
It's pretty obvious that the left image is from the American publication (or some other prudish country) since the post is about censorship.
The image is a crop of two panels to show the difference due to censorship.

As for the white edges, it's probably a preview of the book published as an ad in another book or on the back of a book. Why they would've chosen that panel in particular I don't know.

>>149243248
>It's pretty obvious that the left image is from the American publication (or some other prudish country) since the post is about censorship.
But it isn't, because >>149219729 is the papercutz publication which is intact.

>>149243248
>As for the white edges, it's probably a preview of the book published as an ad in another book or on the back of a book. Why they would've chosen that panel in particular I don't know.
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying, you fucking moron. If it is just one panel, there isn't a story, or a gag to fuck up with muh censorship.

The sky is different, the angry mark thing above her head is gone, her hair is different, there is sand being kicked up. Loads of other differences, that no paedos are getting upset about. for all we know, it's from a spot the difference game and anon is a disingenuous niggerfaggot.

If you do not know the actual purpose of the image on the left, you cannot say the reason for the changes is because of muh censorship. I tire of explaining this to anons of subnormal IQ.

>>149243477
My bad, actually that isn't the papercutz version, but this is, as I say, intact.

>>149242433
>Why is topless important when she got bottom spanked? Sounds like you need to justify it.
nta but of course it's not important she be topless for that reason, the part that impacted the meaning (if indeed it is the same image) was the fact they removed the mark on her butt.

>>149243644
Well, I should not have typed up this post before reading the rest of the thread. Ignore me.

does bunny maloney counts?

>>149215228
The writer and cartoonist have divorced, so probably not.

>>149215228
>>149244270
I wonder if they are fighting for the rights of the comic.

>>149245238
The artist/ex-husband is the one who wants to finish it, and from the sound of it it's kinda conflated with having trouble letting go of their marriage so I imagine she wants nothing to do with it.

Apparently his Gaston continuation was a huge commercial success though, so his publisher will most certainly want him to stick with that.

>>149241765
That whole thing's actually got little to do with feminism and everything with a french far-right organization testing their ability to challenge free speech to bring back the censorship of old.

>>149245494
Delaf also drew a volume of the Donjon Parade series a little while back.

>>149243248
>>149243477
>>149243486
The left picture >>149210085 could be a cover but i guess a back cover or a page before the comic pages.
Or maybe it was used in a magazin?

>>149245778
>comic
>spin-off Superheroine
>cartoon series
>magazins
>videogames
And i wasnt aware that it is a big IP.

>>149245795
I just spillled my drink.

>>149245807
Solid gold.

>>149243644
I guess the mark is erased because it is a standalone picture.

>>149243486
>Maureen
Who the fuck decided her name needed Anglicising, especially to a name no-one born since like the 1950s has.

>>149245807
Whaaaa…?!?

>>149245813
Me too after googling for the covers if the heavily discussed beach picture is from a cover.

>>149209054
>>149205781
>>149207978

>>149245807
Prompt?

>>149245807
Gross.

Posting my favorite Petite Spirou story! Marine a cute!

>>149245939

>>149180587
>>149180683
Huh, on RCO even. Neat, the art looks nice!

>>149245494
Gaston La Gaffe?

>>149245959
Thats not a body of a kid. Someone drew a grown-up body than shrunk it to kids size!

>>149247115
Puberty is a mysterious thing.

>>149242433
I go to nudist camps all the time. You would go and tell everyone you're fine with nudity but you're going to need them to cover up and if they don't you're calling the police kek

>>149242433
Again, you need to justify a reason for the censor. You with get to just do it then force someone to argue why they shouldn't be censored.

>>149245539
I'd be wary. If you dig deep enough you typically find that they're bedfellows

>>149245795
thats some SUPER SHORT SHORT skirt.

>>149247168
Wrong picture. Thats like me going to a nudist camp dont caring who is naked while you demand the kids all need to be naked.

>>149247214
Yeah bro, rightoids are all about the feminism.

>>149215651
stupid ignorant dipshit "censor me harder,daddy government" asshole dickhead loser

>>149179238
Snake & Spear is excellent!

Anyone has any DL to the last volume of the Ogre Gods in English?

>>149247550
But they already were you're the one saying they have to cover up.

SO ANYWAYS

Do Anons have any good art recs for French comics? I'm a burgeoning drawfag and would like to study some cool artists/panels

I'll just leave this here. Discuss.

>>149241843
>Why does a bridge get regular awards?
People like to form groups that pat each other on the back. In professional contexts, this often involves handing out awards for things that catch people's attention. Think of the Academy Awards and such.

Do we still like Kerascoet, Anons?

>>149247727
KEK
>>149247731
I figured it was probably something like that. Sounds funny, though. Like the bridge just came out with a new music album or something (I liked their older work, it's so passe now.)

>>149243486
>>149243883
Has there ever been a bigger visual downgrade for an animated adaptation?

>>149217545
Women are so insufferable with this nonsense.

French Anons have you heard anything about why Miraculous Ladybug is such a mess this season? I've been waiting for new episodes for what feels like 37 years.

>>149247727
Gotlib was unfathomably based, Superdupont vs. not-Bruce Lee is a fucking classic.

>>149178368 (OP)
I honestly don't see much appeal to French comics. Independent American comics are honestly much better from my experience.
t. not French or American

>>149248238
They have an aesthetic beauty and whimsy to them in addition to a libertine sense of freedom

>>149248445
I don't buy it. They just seem to be glorified for their exoticism.

>>149248238
What about Italian comics then, like Liberatore or German such as SHuiltheiss?

>ctrl+F Alone
>one (1, una) mention in passing
Y'all need to start reading
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Alone