Thread 149180339

Why did Geoff Johns leave DC?

>>149180339 (OP)
Because he got outed as a racist rapist pedophile thanks to Ray Fisher

>>149180339 (OP)
You make more money with your creator owned stuff. Especially if it gets adapted by studios.

>>149180339 (OP)
dramatic theater faggot nigger pulled the race card in desperate struggle to maintain the crumbs of stardom he had achieved and ended up tainting the legacy of one of the best writers in DC history. He got little to no backup from corporate, which was in flux amidst numerous corporate mergers and attempted selloffs. So he fucked off with all their best art talent, and I hope he is wildly successful

>>149180545
I'm really liking his Ghost Machine work. I wish more people talked about it. They're extremely good comics.

>>149180339 (OP)
Because he and Hamada forced Snyder out and made the DCEU adapt his shitty New 52 slop. Homie wanted to be Mark Millar so bad but nobody cared. Now he writes streaming bait slop after the streaming bubble burst. KWAB

>>149180646
Johnshill, its been a while man how have you been....

>>149180646
If they were actually extremely good, people would be talking about those here instead of Ultimate or Absolute.

>>149180726
That's silly.

>>149180390
Supposedly Paramount+ is going to make a Geiger show. I don't know if other Unnamed universe shows will follow.

>>149180545
>one of the best writers in DC history
KEK

Volume 2 when?

>>149180985
Name ten with more consistent and higher quality work right now.

>>149180339 (OP)
It's basically a combination of Justice League movie doing badly + Ray Fisher's accusations + WB deciding to go in a new direction for DC film/TV that doesn't involve Snyder or Johns

Some people might argue other projects were a factor (Green Lantern movie, Flash movie, Wonder Woman 1984) but there was way more blame to go around on those than just Johns

>>149180646
>They're extremely good comics.
They most certainly are not.

>>149181127
What did you hate about the last issue of Redcoat?

>>149180686
>made the DCEU adapt his shitty New 52 slop
Snyder was already doing that. They literally moved away from New 52 stuff after Snyder.

>>149181110
At least Jim Lee did a variant cover for Geiger, so it looks like the relationship with DC isn't too harmed or anything.

>>149180985
What other classic character had their definitive run in this millennium? Geoff Johns is THE Green Lantern writer, which is crazy for a character who was around for so long before.

>>149181016
Alan Moore
Grant Morrison
John Ostrander
Alan Grant
Matt Wagner
Peter David
Keith Giffen
Steve Englehart
Joe Casey
J.M. DeMatteis

>>149180339 (OP)
He realized the woke cancer was never going away so he cashed out and went home

>>149181469
But you can't name 10 more so that means he's near top 10 all time.

rook when

>>149181149
Why would I continue reading something I don't like? I know this sounds silly on /co/ but I'm a normal person, not an autistic hate-reader.

>>149181597
I think it's coming back in September or something. Hope they've got several issues ready to go so they don't have to take a long break again anytime soon. The art in that book is amazing.

>>149181664
thank fuck
might st it all so anons can catch up when it's out

>>149181205
Why are you lying. MoS, BvS, ZSJL are not Johnslop. Meanwhile Josstice League was just hte first arc of JL new 52, Aquaman was the first arc of new 52 aquaman and Shazam was the backup issues from his JL run, all those cameout after Snyder was fired by Hamada,

>>149181260
says more about GL than Johns...

>>149180985
THIS LMFAO

>>149181785
I hope some more people jump on. Was definitely one of my favorite books when it was coming out.

>>149180339 (OP)
Porn of Stargirl

>>149180545
>one of the best writers in DC history
Who?

>>149181260
>'definitive run'
For Green Lantern, that would be everything before Emerald Twilight. Johns just got the hype bump; his world building was atrocious and already mostly undone or ignored.

>>149181260
Black Panther

>>149180339 (OP)
Because there's no DC left to leave.

>>149181977
delusional

>>149181977
Everything prior to ET sucked tho. Remember how the most power take on Hal was Denny O’Neil and Neal Adam’s cucked take? It took Geoff Johns and Peter Tomasi to power wash that stank off him.

>>149184141
>no argument
>>149184186
By going back to the Hal defined in the 60's. Ergo, Johns did nothing slightly definitive.

>>149180646
>They're extremely good comics
Fuck no, they're some of the most boring TV pitches I've ever read. Even Millar is more entertaining because at least he's bad enough to poke fun at. The Ghost Machine shit is just pure derivative mediocrity.

>>149184186
>Everything prior to ET sucked tho.

This is also false.

>>149180339 (OP)
He burned his bridge when he was trying to be a /tv/ guy but demanded various comic characters/teams be embargo'd until he found time for them. Problem was he never found the time and when he did it was obviously just shitting out an absurd amount of OC's that he'd immediately turn around and try to convince TV/movie execs that they were highly popular characters they should be fast tracked like his shitty shitty Shazam reboot.

>>149182934
That's a good answer

>>149180545
It would be a major blow to his ego to realize after all this time, the movie studios consider him little more than the coffee boy he started as, but really he's probably too awkward to even notice.

>>149184314
>By going back to the Hal defined in the 60's.
What character?

>>149181469
ill give you 4 of these, so Johns is still one of the best. What modern DC writers, since 2000, outside of Morrison is better?

>>149180339 (OP)
Bow down to Ritesh, Geoffrey.

>>149184749
probably so. He is a gentile after all.

>>149184805
That's SAR to you Geoffery!!!

>>149180726
Or digital circus

>>149181627
So, what did you hate about the first issue of Redcoat?

>>149180699
Johnshill should get in a cage fight with Dumas, Johns' biggest hater, if that other guy's still even alive

>>149184706
I only remember the good Todd Nauck art.

>>149184706
The Lost Children seemed to be a 2.0 of all those derivative One Year Later Teen Titans he was farting out and never used most of, thus making them cannon fodder. Miss Martian got some mileage, but at what costs.

>>149185194
Dumas was a fucking unbearable whiner on so many boards.

>>149184805
>hated Geoff Johns so much he got himself blacklisted for being too much of a seething fag
We all aspire to be as unemployable as Ritesh Babu.

>>149185239
So you recall him too, huh. He certainly was a noisy one, practically like copypasta with his complaints. His only one praise he gave Johns was that he wrote Jay Garrick right kek.

>>149185104
Cartoons don't count because it's an entirely different audience.

>>149185104
Those are shills, anon.

>>149185301
But still they occupy space for threads. And show peoples interest in stuff.

>>149185362
Shills aren't people.

>>149185253
He didn't just post on the DC boards which I never went to, he went to a lot of places; Comicon boards, Hooded Utilitarian, Savage Critics. I wouldn't be surprised if he was a self-absorbed whiner on the DC boards as he was on those other ones

>>149185391
There was a "Dumas2" on the DCMB yeah, some /co/mrade here claimed Dumas said that was an impersonator but sounded exactly the same. He'd derail so many threads to be about his hate for Johns that you'd wonder if he'd be ranting to his Wendy's drive-thru worker about the same.

>>149185432
I could believe it because he sometimes posted in a different name. In fact one time he posted on Hooded Utilitarian's comments, then linked to it over on Comicon either because he was supporting whatever drivel Noah Berlatsky was saying or was upset at whatever drivel Noah Berlatsky was saying, but forgot he didn't post as Dumas there, he posted something like his real name

>>149180339 (OP)
He had a dream of making a comic about a robot who fought in an old war but DC had no character like that.

>>149185616
It was more like, he had plans to revamp that character and other DC characters, but DC declined though let him take his ideas with him as long as he changed it enough

>>149180985
kek this

>>149181977
this
Geoff is quite literally a fanfiction writer. I'm being serious.

>>149184796
Moore did ABC in the 2000s.

>>149184706
correct
he was essentially kicked out and 'failed upward' the way most white guys are allowed to, and given his deal with WB TV Studios that lead to a bunch of eventually and quickly cancelled shows and nothing else greenlit, and which ended without a new deal, or even other studios being interested (they way they all go after say Ryan Murphy, or Berlanti, or anyone else currently successful), which is why he's been back to comic books since hair plugs don't pay for themselves!

Eventually, just like Waid and Jurgens, he'll be brought back to DC but probably not until Marie Jarvin's retires or with a very tight leash.

>>149185726
And how is that different from any other writer? If the original creators aren't involved it's fanfiction by definition.

>>149180545
>one of the best writers in DC history
lol read more comics

>>149186654
Johns ruined my Kon-el with yaoi daddy drama

>>149180339 (OP)
Jeoff Gohns lol

>>149180339 (OP)
Ran out of cereal

>>149180545
>one of the best writers in DC history
I can't believe there are people that actually think this

>>149181870
The 2 JL movies take the exact same amount of influence from John's new 52 JL. Zach was executive producer for Aquaman, it was ALWAYS going take cues from the new52 run for it's script.

>>149188950
It's because they're coocoo for Coco Puffs

>>149184706
>like his shitty shitty Shazam reboot.
i get the feeling you hate it either because of billy being a dick for like less than 5% of the story or because of his extended foster family but maybe you'd have enjoyed it better if you actually read it or hell, just watched the first movie instead of just seething about out of context previews and letting your /pol/ brainrot take over.

>>149181260
>What other classic character had their definitive run in this millennium?
since someone already said Black Panther, I'm gonna go out and say Iron man: Extremis

>>149189430
I read it.

I also read First Thunder.

I also read Power Of Shazam.

I also read Ostrander's Shazam.

I also read 70's Shazam (and watched the Filmation series).

I've also read most of the GA Shazam stuff including the entire Monster Society Of Evil run.

Fuck you for presuming I'm a casual and fuck you again with a straight razor for presuming I'm a /pol/tard.

>>149189043
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>>149180686
>made the DCEU adapt his shitty New 52 slop
You Snyder Cultist really need to get your history and facts correct.
>>149181205
>Snyder was already doing that.
Correct.

Cereal Lord was COO of DC Entertainment and a VP of DC Comics by 2011. The COO (which is Jim Lee's job now and has been for the last few years, and he really does nothing about it or with it) is supposed to be the point person at DC Comics for when producers, writers, networks, cable companies, studios, etc., reach out about adapting things. ALSO, they are supposed to be the point person for pitching and selling DC properties, including arcs, story ideas, concepts, etc., to the same group for live action and for animated (hell, even for a theatrical) adaptation.

Instead of pitching them Ross and Waid Kingdom Come, or Mark Millar's Red Son, or Darwyn's Cook New Frontier, or Morrison's All Star, or anything at all like that, Cereal Lord spent tons of energy getting even a fellow WB entity, the animation people, to adapt his Nu52 Aquaman (Throne of Atlantis), Nu52 JL (War), Flashpoint (Flashpoint Paradox), etc. etc., as animated movies. Got the DCW to adapt these shitty arcs for the Flash (once again Flashpoint), and got them adapted for the DCEU - this was all well before Hamada was a suit. The Flash scripts were ordered before Hamada was even brought onto the Warner Brothers lot, Justice League was set up by BvS. David Goyer was John's butt buddy when they were both coffee gofers starting out in Hollywood, Cereal Lord got Goyer gigs writing for DC, which gave Goyer cred for when producers wanted to adapt Blade, which gave Goyer cred when Nolan agreed to direct Batman so he (Nolan) could get in good with Warner Brothers to do the shit he (Nolan and his brother) wanted to work on, like The Prestige and Inception.

ALL OF THIS WAS JOHNS.

>>149184706
I think Jones may have made the diverse extended Shazam family so that some shithead wouldn't pull a New 52 Wallace West stunt and race change one of the 3 main characters.

>>149180985
>>149181963
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>>149188950
Sorry, but Sinestro corps war was a masterpiece and I haven't seen a DC crossover since that's been better.

Yeah not for nothing Johns has had some misfires but he's leagues better than the faggot hipster shit you guys suck off as the greatest comics ever. You're all just neckbeards and everything is either amazing or dogshit when you're more concerned about pushing your taste online than actually reading comics. And no I'm not reading your faggot replies, have fun

>>149191495
>the faggot hipster shit you guys suck off as the greatest comics ever
who

Wasn’t there some rumor on here that Johns cashed the last of his favors at DC to quash Mags Visaggio’s pitch to make Conner Kent trans

>>149185104
Digital Circus, just like Skibidi, is brainrot and anti-American propaganda. Ghost Machine is pro-American and very intellectual.

>>149191870
>anti-American propaganda
BASED

>>149185242
Sauce?

>>149191870
Ghost Machine is pure brainrot. It is plastic /tv/-pitches over and over again who stole the ideas mostly from videogames.

His Avengers was god awful.

>>149180339 (OP)
his avengers run is the THE LAST GOOD avengers run.

>>149192722
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gb6x_duVXE

>>149189430
NTA but what he did to Sivana was absolutely retarded

>>149188928
KEK

>>149191377
It was shit. Sorry about your taste.

>>149191870
Skibidi Toilet is legit and not brainrot.

>>149193424
It is literally made by a Russian propagandist from the GRU who is also the nephew of General Valery Gerasimov, the one who is responsible for the deaths of millions of innocent Ukrainian civilians.

>>149193489
Dangerously BASED and anti-Nazi pilled creator.

>>149192359
>>149192722
the duality of man

>>149184186
And for all the accolades Hard-Traveling Heroes got, it didn't actually sell. They had to cancel it for a while and move it to a Flash back-up.
>>149188179
>>149188950
Johns is a meathead who's made lots of bad calls, but his JSA, Hawkman, Wally West, Green Lantern, Action Comics, Aquaman runs as well as his contributions to 52 were all excellent.

>>149193953
>his contributions to 52
Fuck no they weren't, people who say this forget about awful shit like Darkseid War. Even his "good" contributions were at best safe and boring, just extremely vapid attempts at "hey Hollywood, turn this into a movie!"

>>149193988
Darkseid War was crap, yes, but it had nothing to do with 52 the year-long weekly series.

I loved Forever Evil

>>149194356
mah nigga