>cartoon """""reviewer""""" makes a cartoon of their own
>its complete dogshit
literally every time

People never learn, just because you're good at talking shit doesn't mean you actually understand the fundamentals of creation.

>>149185452 (OP)
>Watch a cartoon reviewer.
>They review cartoons and criticize artstyles.
>They make a cartoon with an even shittier style.

Those that can't do, review.

>>149185452 (OP)
Critics exist in a realm of retroactive safety. It's easy to analyze, to pick to poke fun and bring down. They don't have to deal with the struggles that went into make things. They don't have to struggle with the actors. The budgets and time tables. The sets the effects and any other limitations. They don't have the drawbacks that come from outside meddling and demands from investors. All a critic needs to do is sit there and watch for however long the subject lasts for. Then they take a little more time, mull over their thoughts and pass judgement before moving on and never looking back. Does this invalidate their critique? No. At least not if it's genuinely insightful and made with though and care but creators and critiques are very different and in many ways don't always cooperate.

>>149185452 (OP)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

>>149185571
Most of them don't even analyze. Critique is beyond their capabilities. They just summarize the entire plot of something, slap in some jokes, and then e-beg or do a sponsored ad read. The amount of youtube "critics" that have even tried to learn some basic shit about animation production are so fucking few and far between that they may as well not exist.

>>149185694
Yeah, in most regards it's gotten even worse. You don't even need understanding of the material anymore. The internet has made it too easy for anyone with a youtube account and an opinion to just scream at the camera like a jackass and get hits or present vacuous nitpicks as criticism. Most critics won't even give the material time to answer questions.

>>149185694
>>149185731
*Ding!*

>>149185452 (OP)
It's the same with you lot here on /co/ thoughever.
All I ever see is people criticizing works and saying how they would have done it differently... and their ideas are honestly fucking awful.
Franchise ruiningly awful. I don't think I've ever seen anything resembling a good idea posted here in the many years I've been lurking.
>>149185571
Also, this.

>>149185571
they do have to deal with the nonstop demands of the youtube algorithm though. that's why they suck now, they have to churn shit out and there's little time for analysis
SFdebris is the last real reviewer

>>149185799
People actually making it is a different case though, while I do agree with you with /co/ or just the internet's penchant for thinking it can do better, it's different when someone actually tries and then fail on the same shortcomings. The inability to actually make things protects people from being judged further.

>>149185799
>What would you do different?
>I'D MAKE IT JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL COMICS ONLY COOLER
>I'd make it so all the girls are barefoot and constantly giving the main character footjob haha
>I'd make it all about the little girl character accidentally getting naked and being stuck in public
>I think they should kill every character for being PUSSIES but they should especially torture the character I hate the most for ruining the series
>I'd just kill everyone who works for the company
>What I'd do is I'd revisit a plotline from 25 years ago where a niche character was briefly introduced and then never came back again because that writer was replaced and never hired again, and make the story about...

>>149186063
The average fan wants to do one of these.
The /co/ enjoyer wants to do all of them at the same time.

>>149185475
They don't even critique animation properly, only the writing and they don't understand the fundamentals of that either. No interesting deep dive about themes/symbolism or writing structures like the three act nor heroes jouney, just "wow this character is terrible because he's not nice like this Pixar character" and them reading the plot summary of a wiki.

>>149185452 (OP)
It’s honestly worse when they succeed. Jello "PepperspotSunshine" Apocalypse made Epithet Erased rich, regardless of what you think about it personally (It’s like a 6/10 imo) was something that a lot of people like and that success turned him into even more of a massive cunt. I don’t understand how he make his own series, get to experience how difficult it is firsthand to do so (IIRC, he nearly bankrupted himself and lost the use of his hand for like, 6 months), and yet come out the other side with absolutely NO sympathy for any other creator, to the point of actively vandalizing someone else’s work.

>>149185557
Ultimately this.
I have never seen a single good critic ever make a good movie gamr comic vartoon or music of their own.

>>149186470
Being successful, relative to youtube popularity, isn't quite the same thing as not making a complete dogshit cartoon, which I think Epithet Erased is. Everything he's bitched about can be found in his own writing, even with a far less involved animation and all the time and space he'd need to work around those problems. Likewise with shows like RWBY, clearly made by pop culture savvy people who openly make the cliched and hacky writing of other media, but then go and make something far clumsier than even the most cliched and formulaic of anime or fantasy writing.

>>149186470
>Epithet Erased
The show is neat, even if there is little actual animation because there's fuck all budget, apparently.

>>149185536
Please, stop.
>his next move will be to remove "Tsubasa" from his filenames so he can claim "whaaaaaaaaat? i don't do that!! you're looking too hard into it".
Your avatars are extremely identifiable and it's getting bothersome.
Stop, and don't try your clever little filename trick.

>>149185452 (OP)
I at least appreciate that they tried. Even more if it humbles them and they learn from it. In many cases they're making all the decisions themselves and seeing just how difficult it is to write and design.

>>149185452 (OP)
>>149185475
>>149185536
What are some examples? I can see it happening, I just don't remember any particular cases