Thread 149196621

why didn't James Gunn just cast Chris Pratt?

>What the hey!
Alright, ya got me. I like Superman not wanting to cuss.

>>149196728
Yeh it's pretty neat. Still not sure about how emotional David's version of Superman is, like when he's yelling "WHERE'S THE DOG LEX" just feels too goofy

I am really annoyed that Gunn got himself some awful, untrained rescue dog and decided that THIS was how Krypto should be portrayed. I will grant that there is some humor in a badly or poorly or simply entirely untrained dog doing awful, terrible things - and that you would think it would be heightened or dialed up if it's a super-powered dog, but this is mostly just annoying, and I'm a cat person.

I used to take care of any number of dogs, for a friend I would often spend the summers with, he had a two acre property and a lot of his friends, rather than boarding dogs, would dump them on him. I would often help him walk the dogs, etc. Very few of them, even those who were annoying and barked incessantly or would only obey a few people, never were 'terrible' dogs, so it's a shame that this is what normie's impression of Krypto will be for the next decade or two.

Sigh.

hahahaha holy shit snyderfags were one thing but anti-snyder cunts have to be even worse. you morons deserve any and all gruel hollywood dishes out

>>149196987
The dog's CGI, retard anon

>>149197104
I think anon means James Gunn’s rescue dog Ozu. Krypto is based on that dog.

>>149196621 (OP)
Did fucking Seinfeld write this?

>>149196987
My man this is what having a terrier is like. I have an Airedale and I would fucking die for that dog but he’ll still nip at your knees to get your attention. He doesn’t tear shit up anymore and hasn’t for years but you can’t just erase a dog’s personality through training alone.

>>149196987
It’s not that serious.

>>149196987
>>149197192
So are we just ignoring the fact that we've had Superman runs where Krypto was hard to control? /co/ really doesn't read comics

LOOK AT LE HECKIN DOGGO
THIS WHOLE THING IS RIDING ON YOU LIKING THE DOGGO OVER THE ACTUAL MOVIE

>>149196987
>and I'm a communist

>>149196621 (OP)
cute little baby
i can't wait for the movie

>>149197192
How many times are you going to post this? You’re just whining at this point.

>>149196621 (OP)
terrible voice, sounds like a disney channel actor that hasn't finished puberty

>>149197074
Its a massive marketing campaign, wouldn't be suprised if both snyder and gunn sides are the same group of marketers trying to generate buzz.
See >>149196728
>>149196739

>>149197218
Superman has been around for so long that any retard can pick a random moment in Action Comics and say it's "accurate" in live action adaptations without considering if what's written in the comics is actually any good.

>>149198718
Anybody expect comic accuracy from Gunn is a retard that doesn't read comics. Superman can have a billion issues but its clear as day Gunn is doing his own retarded thing.

>>149198718
is this accurate?

>>149198750
Yeah Kingdom Come, including the part where Superman has his faith in humanity restored.

>>149198766
Snyderman never had his faith in humanity restored, you pulled that out of your ass.

>>149198917
You never saw the film and based your opinions on jewtubers.

>>149196987
Krypto in the 50's and 60's was a selfish piece of shit so it fits.

>>149196621 (OP)
Who programmed the Superman robots? If it was Superman, wouldn't he make them care about that kind of thing? I feel like they must be some kind of Kryptonian tech he got ahold of that he didn't design himself.

>>149198969
its a kids movie stop asking questions Snyderchud

>>149196987
>awful, terrible things
He messed up the house, he didn't maul someone's kid. Doesn't seem worth getting seriously worked up about as some kind of character assassination.

>>149198995
This is written more like you're the "Snyderchud" here.

>>149199014
bro its a kids movie, Grant Morrison knows that kids don't care about this shit but snydertards don't read comics

>>149199170
When has Gunn ever followed that way of thinking though?

>>149199253
his movies aren't designed for thinkers, they are fun emotional romps for the senpai. Superman making a billie easy

David is very handsome

>>149198945
I did see that shitty movie, Superman sacrificing himself to beat Doomsday doesn't mean he suddenly gives a shit about humanity. He cares about his mom and Lois, that's it. Not even Batman really changed his mind, Superman was just lucky enough that their moms share the same name.

I don't understand why every clip I see of this movie has to be some kind of typical interaction anyone would experience. He's been Superman for 3 years now getting owned up by a his pet dog on multiple occasions, and throwing a tantrum in front of his nemesis (coincidentally over krypto as well)

>>149199425
>I did see that shitty movie
Stopped reading right there

>>149198766
Based anon destroyed the "muh hope and silly" fag!

>>149199425
>I did see that shitty movie, Superman sacrificing himself to beat Doomsday doesn't mean he suddenly gives a shit about humanity
And yet he saved civilians and even Lex in the movie.
>Not even Batman really changed his mind
Watch the movie before talking about it, anon.

Gunn's Superman killed millions.

>>149199527
bro, superjew and the justice defense league freed all the civilians from life before this battle happened.

>>149199454
>I don't understand why every clip I see of this movie has to be some kind of typical interaction anyone would experience
They want Superman to be a "this superhero is just like me" kind of character. Happened all the time in the MCU.

Superman is a serious character.

>>149199553
You get the MCU top guy to make MCUslop, DC already did this with Whedon and now they are doing it again with Gunn. Second times the charm

>>149199380
They still have an internal consistency though, I'm just curious where the robots come from.

>>149199575
He's wrong by a factor of ten.

>>149197160
bingo

>>149197218
And it's even been done in fan art, but there are way more (75-85% more) runs, panels, arcs, issues, where Krypto is competent, playful (look at almost any issue with him and Kon anywhere from the 2000s to 2011).
But this scene, combined with the jumping when Supe's in the snow, plus Gunn's own interviews where he talks about Krypto being a terrible dog, I expect more of that in the movie

>>149197352
Actually, I'm a republican

>>149199586
Whedon did minimal original filming, most of the script and film was already shot, it's all editing.

>>149196621 (OP)
At this point they've shown every scene in the movie, haven't they?

>>149196621 (OP)
This is genuinely just not good. I’m so sick of shills calling everyone that sees this for the train wreck it is a snyderfag. I hated the Batman, i have zero interest in this constant intra-company warring. This just looks like shit.

>>149198961
Can a dog be selfish?

>>149199790
>Can a dog be selfish?
Sometimes dogs with paralyzed owners will try to eat their owner's toes.

>>149199815
you would too if you were hungry

>>149199829
My point is people ascribe benevolence to dogs when they're really just another animal.

>>149199864
I know I was just being a silly guy

>>149199815
>sometimes
and sometimes people will eat other people's toes

>>149199759
>this just looks like shit
>I hated The Batman
Was backing up one bad opinion with another supposed to mean something for your argument?

I hate this characterization of Superman

>>149196621 (OP)
Dude! Bro! Like what the hey dude? Gunn is such a faggot.

>>149196621 (OP)
I'm still gonna see it, but I think figured out why this version of Supes bothers me abit.

He seems less Superman and more Superboy and how I imagine Superman visually much older. Like a 40 something.

I knwo its weird or bias but I feel it lands with Reeves and the DCAU versions.

Redditors love "doggos"

>>149196621 (OP)
It reminds me of the dog one of my sisters brought home a few months ago. To be honest, I kind of hate her for it.

Even the cast know i's gonna be shit compared to Snyder

>>149198718
Nice goalpost move, fag

>>149200305
Isn't that a good thing where you come from, sir?

>>149196621 (OP)
>What the hey dude bro!?
Pass. I'm fine with Superman not wanting to swear... but he doesn't need to talk like a fucking retarded Zoomer.

>>149198995
>>149199170
>it's a kids movie
pg-13

>>149200632
"Dude" is zoomer speak?

>>149196621 (OP)
So gay. This is not how a man raised by Jonathan Kent would speak.

>>149200305
>doesn't want to embarass Cavill saying how retarded it was that he didn't save Pa Kent

>>149200305
That interviewer is getting blackballed for a while after this.

>>149200305
Honestly that was a great fucking dodge on Corenswet’s part.

>>149196621 (OP)
Wow this is just as jewish as I thought it would be. Fuck superman and fuck people who are fans of superman.

>>149201013
>>149203120
jews are a deceitful breed

>>149196621 (OP)
Interesting.

>>149198750
>is this accurate?
It's meant to be thought-provoking you fucking dolt.

>>149200263
This, basically. Gunn's really hammering in the point that this is a younger, inexperienced it, but in the process also robbing him of the authority and presence that makes Superman an inspirational character in the first place.

>>149196621 (OP)
They should have textured the suit instead of adding MCU lines all over it. The costume could have been perfect, but those lines drag it down hard.

>>149196629
Why couldn't they get Krypto right? He's supposed to be a big-ass lab who's head comes up to Supes' waist.

He just doesn't sound or act like Superman. He feels like someone's parody of Superman.

>>149204425
The biggest issues is that the suit is baggy.

>>149204394
It made me think this movie was written by an 8 year old.

>>149205245
erm, there was no heckin puppers running arround the scenes doebiet

>>149204407
Snyder did it better without making him a whiny bitch
>>149204551
Gunn is a self insert fag high on being a shabbos goy. He does this in a all his projects including Creature Commandos.

>>149199790
50’s Krypton was basically a human in intellect and would scheme over ways to fuck over Superboy.

>>149198750
God, Cavill looks awful.

The American superhero is finally played by an American actor. Enough with the Brits.

>>149205472
He is jewish buddie, stop erasing jewish identities.

>>149205472
why do the british offend indian sensibilities, its been several generation already Gunnjeet.

>>149205498
Born and raised in the USA. Unlike the Britbong championed by the Snyder pajeets.

>>149205512
Saar, britisher like Hoult attack India and colonize many centuries saar. Please saar india stands with israel fuck britsher benchod SAVE ME SUPERSAAR

>>149205365
Well of course not, their dog was too busy being "saved" by Pa Kent to only end up dying shortly afterward anyway.

>>149204407
Yeah, the trailer really did make him inspirational, to me. But these clips being shown makes him seem inexperienced, lol.

>>149205371
>Snyder did it better without making him a whiny bitch
Maybe, but i wish he did, at the time, got more solo movies under his belt to build towards this sorta "I'm use to this actor playing this character now" feeling.

Shouldve fought more villians and built towards braniac then to Darkseids invasion.

>>149205953
that pupper wasn't super invincible doebiet....

>>149205973
>invincible humanoid with cape is fine
>invincible dog with cape goes to far
How about you admit it's all silly, Snyderjeet.

>>149196728
Same. It irked me for half a second until I realized I'd rather hear "Hey" over "Heck". "Heck" is stupid. There should be no "safe" word for "Hell". If you don't want to say it then just don't. But using a "cute" little workaround never sat right with me.

>>149200263
I personally don't like how Kara doesn't discipline Krypto. I don't like Krypto being this negative ball of poorly trained energy. He's a magical space alien dog. He should be super smart and capable. Readily able to discern the difference between injury and playtime.

>>149196987
This. I really don't like the idea of the strongest hero on Earth and leader of the Justice League being unable to discipline a stupid dog. I mean sure it's Kara's but still the fact that SHE as an owner is equally ass that enables this behavior just isn't funny to me. Don't show dogs in a bad light needlessly.

>>149205371
Well, ok, but what does that have to do with Krypto?

So let me get the plot straight: Luthor gets Earth's heroes together to jump supes to the point Krypto has to drag him to the Fortress Of Solitude so he can heal in a solar chamber.

Krypoto, being a dog, leaves the door open and was followed by the bamboozled heroes, who begin to lay waste to the fortress' defenses and loot his home under the pretense of protecting the world from an alien invasion or some weapon of mass destruction.

Luthor then turns on everyone with his newly stolen loot. The idiots then heel face turn and ask supes for help, sorry about the asswhipping and coma.

That's what I'm getting from the trailers.

>>149196629
No anon, just no.

>>149196987
>cat person
No wonder why you hate dogs

>>149200305
>Doesn't answer a stupid question
I would have done the same desu

>>149206974
LEX, GIVE ME BACK MY HECKIN PUPPER NOW! LEX, GIVE ME BACK MY INVINCIBLE DOG LEX, LEX GIVE HIM BACK

>>149208976
you're jewish

>>149209387
you are indian

>>149196621 (OP)
I don't like the actor.
I don't like the suit.
I don't like the design for Krypto.
I don't like that scene's writing.

>>149196728
>vtumors

>>149209478
based, marketers did not like this one, not one bit

>>149208369
NTA, but Gunn said that Krypto's design and personality was inspired by his actual real life dog.

>>149198969
>I feel like they must be some kind of Kryptonian tech he got ahold of that he didn't design himself.

Isn't all Kryptonian tech like that for Superman?

>>149207561
Kara?

Anyway, thats another reason i feel this is Superboy than Superman and they'll grow over the movie into a more mature unit.

>>149209379
An invincible dog trapped in a pocket dimension. Try again.

>>149210288
>Kara?

>>149196621 (OP)
Every new clip they show is more embarrassing than the last.

>>149198995
Batman's cave is always filled with ridiculous crap and everything has an origin, like that stupid giant penny from a Two-Face trap.

>>149209807
Man, fuck HIS dog! These motherfuckers are totally self-absorbed, aren't they?

>>149211397
>Man, fuck HIS dog!

Calm down and stop acting like a white woman.

>>149208426
Yes, but it's so wacky and fun you!

>>149196629
It was mandated he had to be a jew to appease Israel. Same with casting an IDF soldier to be Kylo Ren and Wonder Woman
>>149196987
They're isn't even a point of doing Krypto, then. Like he's a silly concept: a DOG with the powers of Superman, but he works of used sparingly because he fits his image a bit -- Superman is often alone in the Fortress of Solitude and while growing up so it makes sense that an All American boy like him would have a dog companion since they're "man's best friend." It tarnishes his image entirely to insinuate Clark wouldn't be able to train his dog and the classic All American image of a and his dog, as well, as well as the trope of a lonely bachelor with hia well trained dog. On all conceivable fronts it's terrible which is why they purposely did it.

>>149199849
DAMMIT STREAKY!

>>149197204
That's ridiculous, my old buddy had a Jack Russell and he was great of a bit energetic.

>>149211214
Ah, I forgot she was in it?

I tried not to look at many spoilers.

>>149208426
Nope, all wrong.

>>149197218
But which runs? In comics you generally want to look to the original runs and works of the original authors as the standard with contradictory runs typically being seen as a writer not bothering to do their work to keep characters in-character at best, and worst as a juvenile attempt at character assassination due to personal distaste with only the occasional run being someone genuinely trying something new to reinvent a character that's waning in popularity. It's only for rare runs that are superiorly well-written and have received widespread acclaim and for the narrative of the original standard where character development or changes typically are accepted as the default canon such as the Black Suit Spider-Man saga becoming a de facto part of his canon.

In regards to Krypto, he wasn't invented by the original creators but was introduced almost 20 years later in the loosely canon Superboy title that was quickly surpassing Superman in popularity and was introduced to compliment Superboy's All American image of a boy and his dog. This Krypto had a human level of intelligence which was expressed by him thinking in complete sentences in thought balloons and being smart enough to not use his powers to blow Clark's secret identity and to answer to the name: "Skip" when they were pretending to be normal civilians. He was the definition of a well trained dog and man's best friend.

Later runs that depict him as an out of control mutt are typically from many decades later and by writers who thinks the idea of Krypto is silly and are poking fun at the idea and character, not someone who wants to wrote the character well. If you were going to be using the character and doing him justice that's not how you would want to portray him.

>>149199553
Which fundamentally misunderstands Superman and his appeal.

Shills are really going to come out after this movie flops and say: "What did you want to see some SUPERMAN flying around beating people up because he's all strong and has a bunch of powers?"

>>149211684
>hurra durante durante
Poo in the loo

>>149200305
>even the cast knew
>Snyder's crap
>was gonna
>be shit

>>149211433
...I want to speak to your manager.

>>149211620
What's the official take?

>>149210302
Sorry Gunnshill the rest of us didn't get a script. Hopefully the invincible super pupper isn't hurt. Then the normie audience really won't watch this movie.

>>149211684
To be fair you need an incredibly high iq to understand superjew

>>149197192
i did

>>149204638
>>149204425
If the suit was a little tighter, no lines and no collar it would be 10/10

>>149196621 (OP)
Exciting!

>>149215136
We had the suit its was the SR suit

bump

>>149216581
Returns suit had a brown looking red, a weak looking S, and gay tiny boots and underwear that really made it clear the director fucks men. It was an awful costume.

>>149217399
The Gunn S is just a ripoff of Kingdom Come. Terrible S. Also Gunn rapes little boys

>>149196621 (OP)
What should I know about the Superman?

>>149212786
Superman crashing into the Arctic and getting dragged to the fortress by Krypto to get healed is the opening scene, and we don’t actually see what hurt him so bad.

The Justice Gang isn’t working for Luthor. He breaks into the fortress only with his enforcers Ultraman and the Engineer, and kidnaps Krypto. When Superman goes to confront him, he gets wrecked by Ultraman and locked up alongside Krypto in Luthor’s pocket dimension. The Justice Gang helps Lois break him out and expose Luthor for some shady things he did in Not!India, and the end is Superman and the Justice Gang vs. Ultraman, Engineer and Luthor’s armored henchmen, the Raptors.

>>149211314
I thought the giant penny was from Penny Plunderer.

>>149196621 (OP)
This legitimately looks terrible

>>149218719
It was, but early in Post-crisis it's made into a Two-face thing and then BTAS runs with that.

>>149209425
Oh, dang, you really are a jew.

>>149219474
You really are an indian