Thread 149196645

>>149196645 (OP)
>>149196017

>>149196645 (OP)
Bean

>>149196645 (OP)
Buy an ad.

>>149196645 (OP)
Yeah, their mouths are the cutest ever.

>AI slop channels now regurgitating badly tought out /co/ talking points from ten years ago
Grim (adventures).

>>149196678
>>149196676
>>149196672
>>149196665
Cuck

Kill yourself, cuntnugget.
Everyone else, report him en masse for shilling.
https://sys.4chan.org/co/imgboard.php?mode=report&no=149196645

>>149196678
the fuck are you on about? what kind of false-
flag crusade are you on?

>>149196678
This is a real person talking, he's not an AI slop bot.

pixar was never good

>>149196645 (OP)
the problem isn't the bean mouth as much as it looks like each film had the exact same character designer.

>>149196678
There was an article about the consequences of "bean mouth" that literally came out today.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/elio-bean-mouth-1.7573340

>>149196645 (OP)
wait a minute

This is just "Wallace and Gromit" stuff that 3D animators like because it shows off El-Oh-CU-tion. 2D has no excuse and it's a cancer but it's just another ordinary technique in 3D.

>>149196780
You do know content farm channels sometimes hire real people to voice their AI written scripts?
It's what the Ceric Artman whatever hullabaloo was about

>>149197203
Pic on the right is clearly long bean.

>>149197176
>Animation journalist John Maher calls it a "pejorative and insult" that far outstrips the style's reach and misunderstands its origin.
>Animation journalist

>>149196692
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!
YOU ARE VERY FUNNY! nice try

>>149196645 (OP)
i hate how the one on the right looks like a goard with shit ontop for hair

>>149196661
yeah you'll notice the left side of mickey's mouth wraps around his head and can't be seen. Exactly NOT like a bean mouth

>>149197176
They literally tap journalists(bots(not even AI)) to write damage control articles when anonymous forums threads pick up traction on google searches.

>>149196661
>noooo you can't dislike a design trend because it was used before and that makes it okay!
Instersting that all the other clear Mickey ripoffs from this era disappeared due to creative bankruptcy and that Looney Tunes became popular because it did something new and different.
It's almost as if the "bean mouth" is a symptom of stagnation and not the sole complaint.

>>149196645 (OP)
Does he have some good points or is he another one of those “Pixar is dead” assholes?

>>149196645 (OP)
>not going to mention the literal shit emoji on the niglets head

>>149197822
Is Pixar not dead? They're discussing a sequel to Ratatouille for fucks sake. It's a sequel slop factory now like DisneyToon was in the 90s.

Do you guys ever feel proud for directly worsening the lexicon of the common modern man?

>>149197203
Fishhooks was ground zero for calarts beanmouth crap in the first place after all

>>149198980
you didn't answer the question

>>149199043
Yes he makes good points from an artist's perspective.
It's just 10 minutes, watch it faggot.

>>149196678
A part of Tumblr also were sick of it, back in the day.

>>149199031
Every other place is removing words and phrases from parlance so we have to fill the void.

>lucca getting stray bullets
that movie is actually pretty decent

holy fuck this chink has no idea what the fuck he is talking about why did I click this video

>>149196645 (OP)
>"Artist's"
I'm not watching this video. Is this an actual artist or just some rando online cunt with a deviant art page who suddenly thinks they know better than the entire film industry?

>>149199753
that later, he starting saying the same buzzwords ever, durr hurr muh silhouettes durr durr

Serious question: how are you supposed to draw mouths then?

>>149199842
With a pencil

>>149199765
I swear these people learn a few basics and suddenly they think they're masters. And it's not as if they're completely wrong either but they're just... not right either.

>>149199630
Only degenerate shotacons like Lucca it's ugly as sin.

>>149197124
Shut up fag

>>149198664
Wither than you, amerimutt

>>149202665
Go back to l*ddit

>>149202665
nobody has ever praised the simpsons for looking good

>>149202867
Retard

>>149202849
>Wither than you, amerimutt
>Wither

>>149202881
not an argument

>>149202665
It was used sparingly and as a little visual gag for some characters, it doesn't count.

>>149196645 (OP)
PSA, and it's only now that people are realizing it.
The sooner we stop this shit, stop treating comedy cartoons as illegal aliens and only treat action serials that just happen to be animated well, ban drama/chick slop and return to the days of Tex Avery and Bob Clampett the sooner we can get out of this hell hole.

Even Chuck Jones and Friz Freleng would be a improvement at this point.

Japan needs this the most.
>>149197764
Max and Dave Fleischer (as well as Seymour Kneitel, Shamus Culhane, Roland Crandall, Willard Bowsky and Myron Waldman) will like to have a word with you.

Because before Gold Diggers of '49 Warner Bros just made Disney clones and 7-9 minute ads for sheet music and records (aka the He-Man, Transformers and G.I Joe of it's day), Gold Diggers of '49 changed all of that but it wasn't over night since the Disney clones (anything that Beans was the main character, does help that Jack King directed those shorts) and 7-9 minute sheet music ads (Page Miss Glory, I Love To Take Orders From You, I Love to Singa (aka the GOAT ad), ect.) were still present and it took until 1937 to make Warner Bros the studio people worship the ground it walks on.

MGM was the same way, it took until Blitz Wolf and Tex Avery showing up to make MGM stop the Disney knock offs, Tom and Jerry took until The Zoot Cat and The Bowling Alley Cat to get them into the cat and mouse we know and love (but the earlier shorts were still excellent) and Rudolf Ising stood at the studio until 1943 so the Disney knock offs didn't go away overnight.

Part 1.

>>149196645 (OP)
ugh every single animation company, age, whatever has a style. It WILL move on. Just fucking wait. Just focus on the stories. Disney will catch on to the 2d-3d hybrid if youre into that like I am. (which seems to be the style of this era alongside the bean mouths)

>>149203542
This.
It's gonna be funny in a few years everyone is gonna be hating on overly-animated stuff with flashing lights and 2d overlayed effects and how it's just "dangling keys in front of a baby"
Looking foward to that

>>149203515
Part 2.

Walter Lantz started off strong and did Fleischer inspired cartoons at first, and when Bill Nolan got replaced with Tex Avery Lantz was getting his own style and Tex Avery made sure it it, but when Tex Avery left for Warner Bros thats where the Disney knock offs started, they didn't last for too long, people such as Ben Hardaway, Alex Lovy, Shamus Culhane, Emery Hawkins and Dick Lundy got Lantz to stop the Disney knock offs and made some real gems (most of them done by Culhane and Lundy) during the 40s, by the 50s those animators left for other studios but Lantz still made some great cartoons, Tex Avery came back and made 4 cartoons for Lantz but once he left thats where the studio fall apart.

Paul J Smith became a director and at first he did some great stuff such as Hot Noon (or 12 O'Clock for Sure) and Niagara Fools, but started to fall apart by the late 50s and early 60s, but Alex Lovy, Don Patterson and Sid Marcus were at the studio, and they made some legitly good cartoons, Jack Hannah who came from Disney also made some legitly good cartoons as well with Gabby Gator, but by 1967 everyone that wasn't Paul J Smith retired and Smith daughter was the one doing the actual cartoons due to Smith going blind from old age, the last few years were unpleasant to say the least but puts what Filmation was doing to shame, Lants closed down his studio in 1972 due to theatrical shorts already being dead by that point (Only DePatie–Freleng was still making them by 1972, and they stopped making shorts intended for a theatrical in 1976 which by then were outsourced to Spain and South Korea (DePatie–Freleng stopped doing them in the States by 1973, leaving the US crew reserved on Looney Tunes projects for Warner Bros), the later being led by Nelson Shin who later took those Korean animators and founded Akom with said animators, TV Pink Panthers did got theatrical releases until 1980 where they ran out of shorts).

it works when aardman does it. The issue imo is that they keep simplifying the characters but make the envirronments more detailed and realistic to the point those movies like Who Framed roger Rabbit.

>>149203594
Part 3.

Columbia was all over the place but their work is solid, underrated and worth watching, UPA however is as anti-Disney as you can get and their stuff is excellent.

Terrytoons was also anti-Disney but thats due to their low budget (Disney = Tiffany's, Terrytonns = Woolworths (or Wal-Mart in this day of age)), there were a few "Great Value" brand Disney knock offs (SOMEBODY TOUCHED MY SPAGHET!) but they focused on characters like Farmer Al Falfa (who predates both Felix the Cat and Koko The Clown by 4 years), Mighty Mouse, Heckle and Jeckle, Gandy Goose and Sourpuss, Dinky Duck and Terry Bears; Later Terrytoons started doing "Great Value" UPA with Sidney The Elephant and later "Great Value" Hanna Barbera with Deputy Dawg, they ended up dying out in 1972 due to CBS cutting costs and just picking up show from other studios such as Hanna Barbera and Filmation.

As for the Fleischer Brothers themselves Disney knock offs were not a thing until the move to Miami in 1938, and that only lasted a few years anyway as Fleischer Studio became Famous Studios and had high quality content in the 40s by by the 1950s they became "Great Value" Looney Tunes with Popeye being their soul saving grace, but they were a few legit good Novletoons such as Baby Huey and Herman and Katnip (aka Great Value Tom and Jerry), Famous Studios then sold their stuff to Harvey Comics and other companies, renamed to Paramount Animation, took outsource work such as TV Felix the Cat, 60s TV Marvel Super Heroes and 60s TV Popeye (they made the best ones) and stood afloat until 1967 when the studio shut down due to running out of money

Van Beuren was just knock offs, Ub Iwerks made some very good cartoons once he split from Disney and the "Disney Stigma" didn't happen until Ub left, and Disney did make cartooney cartoons with Donald Duck and Goofy in the 40s and 50s so it's not all "Disney Stigma" content, plus Ub came back to run their special effects department until his death in 1971

>>149203749
This was very interesting, Anon, thank you

>>149203800
You're welcome.

>>149204003
This doesn’t justify anything, tranny

>>149204003
Not a bean mouth.

>>149197176
This article is terrible. Just pontificating by 2 idiots about how cal-arts doesn't have a shit style it teaches their students (it does) and then the box office analyst saying that "how an animation looks doesn't matter because Flow was animated in blender". Except the difference is Flow has some actual artistry to it and beanmouthio doesn't.
I don't care where the art style came from, it looks like shit and the box office reflects that.

>>149199039
Em ackhtually it was flapjack or something
>>149198664
Eye-tailian get it right chuddy
>>149203550
>Implying that isn't happening already.
I see people on /co/ dunking on it all the time with spiderverse and it's imitators.
>>149204069
Outside of /co/ beanmouth as a term caught on and got partly got associated with calarts because rcdart(went to calarts)was ripping off Rebecca's simplified style for SU but made it shittier somehow.

>>149196672
Not this guy. Why are you on every board. Stop

>>149202665
SIMPSONS DID IT SIMPSONS DID IT

>>149204192
To drive the point home, picrel doesn't look too far off from modern Pixar character design when you look at stuff like Win or Lose. Rory was simply ahead of the curve, apparently kek.

>>149202849
>Wither

>>149204255
Nice self portrait

>>149203749
Your favorite stuff by MGM and Warner Bros. probably wouldn't even exist without Disney making pictures like Three Little Pigs, Three Orphan Kittens, Tortoise and the Hare, Moving Day, The Band Concert, etc, etc. Disney never slowed down or stopped being at the forefront after Ub left - this is simply wrong. The idea that Disney weren't making comedies or had nothing to show to upcoming animators is axiomatically untrue - it's the opposite. Even in Disney's first feature-length films, there is still a very active touch that grounds the films to the philosophies of golden-age comedies. Yeah, some of the Silly Symphonies /are/ less comedy-focused, but they are still concerned with character animation, visual language, and otherworldly charm. It isn't a flaw that they purposely made something different and daring, it's a good thing. During the 1930's, Disney fused the visual language of animation with a number of non-comedy subjects, such as the striking and gothic imagery seen in The Mad Doctor, or the naturalistic and romantic theme of The Old Mill. So, Disney created these films that facilitates a deep and interesting form of visual entertainment, but people won't accept it because they don't align 1:1 with harder comedies, which also came much later. I don't quite get that, but whatever. Then again, I'm somebody that likes early MGM, Fleischer's Color Classics, and a bunch of other 1930's stuff, so maybe I'm just biased. Also, I love Ub Iwerks, but even in the 1930's Grim Natwick mentioned the rumor 'Iwerks was the real talent behind Disney', and then quickly finding out this wasn't true, after joining him.

>>149197161
Kinda like how Disney songs now all sound like some gay latino composed them.

>>149196645 (OP)
I've already heard it every day on /co/ for the last nine years.