This'll make a billion dollars

>>149221340 (OP)
>Boo Boo Kitty come crawling back to Daddy, huh?

>>149221340 (OP)
Well Parasite is a fitting name

>>149221340 (OP)
That's literally a copy of a children's novella

hah. theyre going to get sued under the presumption that the models they used utilized copywritten material. we'll see how it goes.

>>149221340 (OP)
I'm not hopeful for the future. But the woke retards who kept pushing unoriginal beanmouth forced this future to happen, so thanks pricks those strikes didn't do shit.

>>149221340 (OP)
I expected this, but an AI product made by a studio will still be interesting to see

>>149221340 (OP)
The Article
https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/cj-enm-ai-strategy-cat-biggie-1236443870/

>The company, which celebrates its 30th anniversary this year, hosted the 2025 CJ ENM Culture Talk titled “K-Content Meets AI: How AI Technology is Transforming the Future of the K-Content Industry” at its Sangam studio, where executives detailed plans to revolutionize content creation through proprietary AI technology.
>“We are applying AI across the entire content value chain — including planning, production, distribution, and marketing — to expand AI content production across genres and formats,” said Shin Keun-sup, CJ ENM’s chief strategy officer. “This allows us to secure next-generation IP.”
>“The key challenge was controlling and expressing the dynamic movements unique to animation,” said Baek Hyun-jung, head of AI business and production, who led the project. “We used our tool, Cinematic AI, to convert the characters into 3D data and train the production system accordingly. This allowed us to achieve a high level of completeness in the final output.”
>The timeline represents a significant efficiency gain, as CJ ENM notes that typical 5-minute 3D animations require three to four months of production time. “Cat Biggie” will launch globally on YouTube in July.
>Building on the animation debut, CJ ENM plans to expand into AI film and AI drama productions within the year, positioning itself as what Shin called “a global AI studio” through team expansion and creator development programs.

>>149221340 (OP)
>Parasite producer
Took me a while to realize they were referring to a movie

>you can do anything with ai
>people only use ai to make le funi pixar cat videos
Just

>>149221340 (OP)
I thought this was a joke

>>149221754
You can try to bring creativity to AI but AI can't bring creativity to the people.

>>149221754
This guy is using it to make a funny series of TV shows set in an alternative universe that looks like something out of the Jim Henson's Dark Crystal era crossed with the 90s Mario Bros movie, I think it's great.

Also people make lots of porn, that's cool too

>>149221858
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL14oiCokyIUWhPgCJej67myAN1n8umIap

derr forgot the link

>>149221754
>>149221824
I once took a look at an AI site and the only thing there that wasn't porn was a bunch of really sad attempts at making memes. All of the memes were basically "what if this thing was Shrek?" because AIfuckers don't have a creative bone in their body, and despite claiming to be on the cutting edge of future technology are still on Shrek memes from 2013 in terms of their humor.

>>149221340 (OP)
>Misread that as "a cat who unexpectedly becomes fatter"

>>149221480
Call me a schizo but I feel like this was all part of the plan. Mainstream Hollywood is all about cutting costs by hiring as few people for as little pay as possible (unless you're an A-List actor), and though AI seemed like the golden goose that was gonna sever half of their staff, people normally wouldn't accept the idea of a deep fictional narrative being manufactured by a robot.

But after years of people like BlackRock pushing pseudo-progressive bullshit, in turn getting more right-leaning (or at least more centrist people) disinterested, now they've been conditioned into essentially rejecting anything by "woke Hollywood pinko scum", so much so that they'll now take soulless algorithm-driven slop over multi-million dollar blockbusters.

More liberal and somewhat left-leaning types who may have championed Hollywood's hollow virtue-signalling have also grown accustomed to entertainment, specifically western animation, being sanitised into inoffensive mush, with so much corporate overreach and test marketing, that you could now basically swap it out with an algorithm and it wouldn't make much of a difference.

Shit's bleak, and I feel we've all inadvently chosen to accept it after years of political division, giving executives enough time to add another piece to our boring dystopia as we quarrelled amongst ourselves.

Yeah

>>149221754
It’s almost like the people who use and claim that AI art democratizes art lack any sort of passion for creativity or intuition of appeal. Funny that

I'm not sure how Asian labor laws work but it's hilarious that the guy who produced the keystone communist movie ends up making a series that puts a bunch of hungry Koreans out of work.

>>149221340 (OP)
>Korean entertainment powerhouse CJ ENM is betting big on artificial intelligence, unveiling a comprehensive AI content strategy alongside the premiere of its first fully AI-generated animation series “Cat Biggie” at an industry event in Seoul on Monday.
Who? why is this news
>“We are applying AI across the entire content value chain — including planning, production, distribution, and marketing — to expand AI content production across genres and formats,” said Shin Keun-sup, CJ ENM’s chief strategy officer. “This allows us to secure next-generation IP.”
So they're stabbing themselves in the foot like Duolingo
>“Cat Biggie,” the non-verbal short-form animation series that premiered at the event, represents CJ ENM’s first fully in-house AI production. The series, which follows a cat who unexpectedly becomes father to a baby chick, consists of 30 two-minute episodes produced by a team of just six specialists over five months — including content planning and character development.
No voice acting, not even AI voice acting
>The timeline represents a significant efficiency gain, as CJ ENM notes that typical 5-minute 3D animations require three to four months of production time. “Cat Biggie” will launch globally on YouTube in July.
Being put on Youtube... because no sane network would actually acquire this

>>149221461
Models don't contain copyrighted data. Training them with copyrighted data may be grounds for a lawsuit but using one that was trained with copyrighted data probably isn't.

It's amazing that even with the OP image being like 100px wide in the catalog, you can still tell that it's AI trash even without reading or looking at the full res pic.

>>149221945
Maybe the reason these people got jobs in the first place was because they worked for cheap and had wealthy parents who were willing to finance them, but even that wasn't "cheap" enough and didn't make enough profit

>>149221858
That shit got old real fast and they drove it into the ground as fast as possible

>>149222044
Produced, not directed or wrote

>>149221945
It was going to happen sooner or later anon, it just happened during our time.
Remember, DON'T. DATE. ROBOTS.

>>149221754
Why the fuck would you expect anything else? Did anyone genuinely think that AI would be a genuine return to better media? At the very least this is a reasonable conclusion I never expected the idea of using AI to create fake home movies of your dead mother to be a thing anyone would support but....here we fucking are.

>>149221340 (OP)
Would this be the Steamboat Willie or the Snow White of AI Generated animations?

>>149221754
Not anything.
You can't make custom porn videos using models trained on photos of people you know.
Yet.

>>149223441
>custom porn videos using models trained on photos of people you know
It should be legal to kill people who do this.

>>149223454
>saying this when historical movies exist
no one cares, boomer

The image quality is better but it's got the exact same crappy motions from all the other AI how do the pornography guys make so much better stuff than these losers https://youtu.be/1mM3CdepSJ0?si=t8YSExGjfaqi_yjl

>>149223754
Also isn't this like the 100th first AI movies I have a scene, every time a new AI generated film or something comes out it's always advertised as the very first. It's like we're stuck in groundhog Day, can anyone explain that to me why we're perpetually stuck in a tech demo that never seems to move on, I remember that robot movie that was done with AI and maybe blender and that was the first and then apparently this is the first again.

I also don't understand why they keep trying to sell everything as AI as though it's like a selling point. Like if you're making good stuff you're making good stuff I don't sit there and say oh my God I just drew this picture with a pencil and it was with a pencil therefore it's good, the AI thing seems to be this perpetually weird I know a guy he's trying to make his own castration furry fetish stuff and I talked to him it's like it's just him and his buddies or into it so it's basically his own little gooner cave kind of thing. I personally like to draw I suck at it, I don't get it I feel like what kind of in this boring tech future where AI can sort of do something and then people make what they want to make and that's about it, good luck trying to get people to see it cuz there's too much of it. I don't even know if it's slop anymore or just sort of background noise, when you go to a rule 34 website and it's just page after page of AI crab and you go I know there's a good pieces in there but they're a pain to find.

>>149223454
>>149223441
Its also fucking illegal.

I honestly wish I could hate AI but at this point it's just feels so boring, I want to go back to AI that was like making crazy stuff that was interesting, not this bargain bin looking crap but just something crazy even The bargain bin stuff you can get at Walmart like some off-brand Pixar film you get a few jokes in there this stuff is just exist, like I was trying to make some comics with it and I would prompt and it just spat out stuff that was just not what was in my head, it looked okay like that's kind of it AI it's kind of a let down, outside The fetish stuff it's disappointing, if it's the future it's just going to make a billion crappy things in a sea of crappy things. Yeah it can render images really well but then what the hell do you do with them.

>>149223829
So... you don't want people to say their work is made in AI?

>>149223855
Inclusion of my incoherent babble, I saw this with the Google video ai, as soon as it got good here comes the subscription cost, and that's probably where this is going to tell you you're probably going to get really good AI and then they're going to put such a high price on it or they're just going to outright figure out a way to ban it or some crap, thank God the Chinese are doing open source

>>149223882
It's not difficult to exclude AI results from a search.

>>149223829
They're not trying to sell the creation on the basis of it being AI, they're trying to sell the AI itself.

>>149223889
No, I just want good stuff to be good stuff, like I'm a Big Jack Kirby fan, his stuff is not polished of course he's dead and he used number two pencils but I feel if it's good it's good cuz my mentality at this point. It's just when someone tells you it's AI it feels like a cop out, like there's this webcomic and the person tells you it is ai, and they're not telling you that because it's interesting they're telling you that to lower your expectations. I don't care if the magic little boys look awesome because their AI gend your story still looks like crap your whole plot is crap it's a rip off of other anime stuff and they're not even funny, I feel like that's kind of where I'm coming from at this point where it's like I will read CWC stuff because his stuff is funny but when it comes to AI it's just all around bad stuff and then justifying how bad it is because it's AI, if you're going to make something funny or interesting with AI or a pencil or a crayon or whatever man, just make the fun things happen. I just want to be entertained and if you're not going to entertain me I don't care if you use whatever man I'm probably too drunk to type here but hey

>>149223787
they keep memoryholing ai movies when they inevitably turn out to be dogshit

This story already exists

>>149221340 (OP)
HE WON

>>149221340 (OP)
Sounds fun.

>ai specialist
good morning siirs

>>149221535
>secure an IP
>from AI, that by nature can't prove to be a unique creations
they will not survive the first case in court, even if it's a Deviantart autists complaining they used xe's art to texture a random tin can in the background

>>149221754
I think one of the biggest tells of how dark the future is, is how creatively bankrupt people who use AI are.

In theory they have a tool that can make them do anything visually, they can ask for anything and cobble together the pieces with minimal effort, although shitty, to create something unique.

The main reaction from a good 99% of it, and this is not hyperbole, is to make exactly what everyone else is making. Ghibli pictures, or samy anime, or some random character doing shit.

It's bad now that is flooding everything, like most people predicted, but what save us for now is that there still actual artists and people trying to do their own original things that are separated from this whole thing, while the AI creative bankrupt people seem to suck it alway in to oblivion, but eventually, with time, the reason and motivation to post your own art or original idea online will become lesser and lesser, as the entire thing is flooded by more and more unoriginal Ai crap.

I think the best paralel I can even make is how internet meme culture was in the late 2000's and what slowly become overtime, the rancid filled unfunny trash of people repeating literally the same joke over and over again ad infinitum. Imagine that, for most creative fields.

Is dark, but I already made my piece with it, I will just focus on writing and drawing my own comics for myself and posting on my neocities site. Just my love for the medium, the world can go to hell. is not my problem anymore.

>>149226701
Ai doesnt create, there is no "anything" all recognized words are specifically trained

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb7FwGl4wfk

Fucking hell this is garbage that hurts to look at like all of these other "FIRST AI TV SERIES EVER."

>>149226718
Yes, my point is that people who even use the tool could use to create something. small edits, copy and paste, inspo. literally the most basic shit possible.

For what I seem most of them are so fucking lazy they can't even open paint to paint over an small mistake on the skin or some edit a child would do in a few seconds. This is me being extremely extremely forgiven about it and using the term very loosely for the best case scenario just to show how bleak things really are.

Even if you completely extrapolate the meaning of creating something to it's most rudimentary basics, all they can do is follow shitty trends or try to badly copy something that already exists to fulfil their own lack of self and personality. Is astonishing how consistent and common this also is with those people, because is such a specific thing and almost a trait you would see people having an shitty cyberpunk novel, but here we are.

>>149223441
You totally can. they are just very short for now. There is a bunch of softcore porn of a nickelodeon actress from TRLH posted early today. Put some pic of any of those girls trough a nude filter and the softcore porn becomes real porn really easily.

I always preach if you are a female you should erase any picture you may have online of your face and private all your social media. Is useless by now, people definitely already made porn of you, but you should not feed them more and more, things from here only get worse. Won't take long until people have a model on dog sex or anal rape or whatever, so far only naked dancing videos, but this will change.

>>149226757
Well that fucking sucked

>>149221591
No they weren't.

i hope ai will just kill the industry at this point

>>149226701
>The main reaction from a good 99% of it, and this is not hyperbole, is to make exactly what everyone else is making. Ghibli pictures, or samy anime, or some random character doing shit.
Reminds me of the early Image comics being a shared universe of X-Men Knockoffs. Or that one hentai about a girl who's been in severe bondage not noticing she has more room to move around, and remaining curled up in the tiny box shaped corner.

>>149221438
Pixar did it.

>>149226757
>Truck changes to completely different vehicles each shot
LMAO

>>149227680
This shit got me so confused at first. I think they meant to portray the truck moving in to new places. classic shot. But they keep changing the perspective of the truck back and forth so you never get the impression the truck is an montage, is just fucking confusing as hell.

The curious thing is that I don't know how it can be so confusing. It's a simple montage shot that should translate to the idea really cleary. But it gets completely lost. Imagine every movie being this?

>>149221480
>beanmouth did this
Animation movies could be booming right now, and this push for AI would still happen, because the people with the money want the end product by paying the least amount of people possible.

>>149226757
wtf

>>149226432
Weak Bait

>>149227838
Bot, small kid, or Down's syndrome?

>>149221340 (OP)
A parasite produced by a cat?

>>149227838
Totally organic, normal reactions.

>>149221480
>not even 5 posts in
>"....BUT THE WOKIES!!"
your brain is mush

CJ ENM's financial losses might have motivated to go AI.

>>149221340 (OP)
The black pill is that all the studios are releasing few animated projects because they are waiting a few years for AI to advance enough so they can make entirely AI productions

>>149221754
Dumb tranime poster

>>149221480
>so thanks pricks those strikes didn't do shit.

Maybe I'm misremembering, but suits planning to replace all of them with AI was very much a thing that was already going to happen even without the strikes.

>>149228935
>few years for AI to advance enough so they can make entirely AI productions
I'd guess 2-3 years, maybe less

>>149221340 (OP)
> we're supposed to care about this because it's by the PARASITE producer
breaking: moneybag who invested in something slightly intelligent is now investing in a stupid thing

>>149221890
If the wrong people get their hands on this character, maybe

>>149228996
It’s sad how you don’t need to be smart to make a lot if money

>>149226701
As someone who's familiar with the use of AI models in research it's particularly frustrating seeing people use AI for all the things its worst at.

Want to train an AI model to do cleanup on your sketches? It's great at that.
Want to train an AI model to do inbetweens for your keyframes? Perfect task.
Want to train an AI model to take raw footage and identify and splice all the cuts when you import it into an editor? Huge time saver.
Want to use AI to make an animated film from scratch? What are you, a fucking retard? It's terrible for that!

It's the same shit happening in science and programming - AI is unbelievably, insanely useful for automating stuff that's simple-but-tedious, and easy to quality check; translating an outline for a code into standard algorithms, reformatting between languages, identifying existing functions that can simplify or optimize code, processing raw data for analysis, etc. but faggots keep trying to brute force their way into using AI to design software from scratch or build comp phys simulations that end up being completely detached from reality.

It's like seeing someone pick up a hammer next to a bunch of boards and nails and then walking over to a furnace to try and do glass sculpting with it.

>>149229143
Is those are not good for any of those things, you put a sketch in it completely redraws it, frame the frame it constantly doesn't really understand anything so it just sort of bastardize it. It's not a very good system unless you're cranking out a bunch of stuff in your throwing them out there that's about only thing you can do with it. I'm not even hating on the tech it's just a system to design to spam that's it, everyone knew that once mid journey started having what a 100 images a second. It was never about quality it's always about quantity. I see this a lot with the patreon pornographers, they just make a lot of stuff and something's going to hit just by probability. In a few months will be looking at this animation and saying God dang that was pretty good because you're going to get about a billion of them they're going to be worse. The craziest part about this whole thing is everyone's acting like nothing costs money bandwidth costs or anything, I mean the platforms are overwhelmed the websites that have data on them are getting so scraped that there's actually costing them so much money Wikipedia was complaining about that they probably are going to go dead in a couple months because they're just costing too much money to maintain the site because of all the scraping bots. This whole AI thing is sort of like King Midas it's going to turn everything into AI, and then what so you got Facebook right now and it's bots making content for bots being viewed by bots. This was like a big thing in the gaming industry especially with the royal battle games where entire fights were just bots against bots. The internet is being transformed from human based to automate it AI based.

>>149229143
are there any studio/animators using these AI to do exactly that? AI sounds revolutionary if it worked like that

There's no doubt in my mind that AI is going to win in a digital space, and those big content farms out of South Asia are going to dominate. I just don't get why all the big companies are literally falling on the sword thinking that they're going to make money out of this because at the end of the day you see more human content on pirate websites then you do on the main platforms. I stopped cruising a lot of webcomic places just because they are nothing but AI on top of AI, and you know the bots are voting everything up. To actually get to talk to human being you got to find these little back channel discords and that's about it. When meta said that the future was going to be them making AI friends for you and you sit there and you say well that's not helpful who's going to help you if your car breaks down your AI buddy. This is something so stupid about this, the only good thing I see is the Chinese that seem to be making open AI models and give them away the rest of these big tech Bros seem to be high on their own supply

>>149229307
>I stopped cruising a lot of webcomic places just because they are nothing but AI on top of AI, and you know the bots are voting everything up.
source?

>>149223855
>Its also fucking illegal.
I have an old broken laptop from college at my parent's place with photoshopped pictures of my crushes. I need to get my hands on it.

>>149229307
>those big content farms out of South Asia are going to dominate

There's also a chance it equalizes things because Westerners won't have to contract out grunt work to Asia. The Western writing and storyboarding can't be done by Asians.

>>149221340 (OP)
>billion dollars

that's spare change nowadays, goddamn inflation

>>149229326
Except runway is now doing storyboards, and then the storyboards are fed right into the AI. On top of that most people aren't even doing storyboards they're just prompted and putting it together in another AI. And now with the agents self-prompting it's just literally AI all the way down almost 100% automated. You should see some of these content farms they just run 24 hours a day spamming unlike hundreds of channels

I've had this conversation with every tech bro who thinks they're going to win on this technology, and it goes something like this, I just spent three hours prompting and working with other AI systems to create this image and look at it it's so awesome, and then some guy in India just crapped out about 3,000 images in the same time it took you to examine that picture closely with a magnifying glass. You're not going to beat that quantity and the qualities at the point now where it's like almost indistinguishable from top tier artists so I still don't get how so many people think they're going to win on this win even the guys who are using it are getting their ass handed to them by the people or just automating 100%

>>149229313
Every goddamn webcomic app / Manga app that lets you post

>>149229284
Short answer: Yes, automating this kind of low-level repetitive work is very much the priority among most of the studios that are doing serious work with AI, but they're keeping it all in-house - proprietary models, training data, etc. It makes it easier to control and to protect with IP laws, so we're going to see very little of it until these studios start using it in wide release films over the next maybe 5-10 years. In the meantime very few independent artists or smaller studios seem to be doing anything with that approach.

>>149229143
But that's too reasonable anon, plus the tech grifters can't really sell that behind the scene stuff so they try to push the bombastic "you can make art with the push of a button and without any human involvement!" bullshit to get the suits that salivate at the idea of laying off all their staff a stiffy.

>>149229284
The Spider-Verse guys made something to basically automate giving all their characters comic book outlines.

>>149221754
HECK you can say the same thing about CGI in the movie industry back in the 90s

you can do anything, but hollywood only manage to make crap disaster movies

>>149229590
That's such a goddamn cope of AI will get better in the future because of x was bad, it's only been 3 years of this and we're still seeing the same level of crap just prettier. I still have not got an explanation of why the guys were making rule 34 are capable of actually making things good.

>>149229313
It's the same shit happening with video sites. Just within the last 5-6 months AI content channels have taken over like half of the top spots on YouTube, TikTok, and other platforms. These channels generate dozens or hundreds of videos a week that get viewed by millions of "people" (bots), make a quick couple grand off of YouTube, and then get taken out the next time they do a big purge of bot accounts and spam channels (by YouTube's own admission they kill off anywhere from 3-5 million of these accounts and channels every year).

>>149229546
Aren't there a lot of animations that are in the public domain now so they can be used to train AI?
Like, Fleischer's Superman cartoons or something.

>>149221480

>>149229857
There's nowhere near enough public domain works to create a viable dataset, because there isn't even enough data PERIOD to create a viable dataset. These bastard companies literally stole the entirety of human history ever put online, and it STILL isn't enough to make their models not shit.

>>149229143
>Want to train an AI model to do inbetweens for your keyframes? Perfect task.
Good GOD no, AI is fucking horrible at that shit. Keyframes are crucial for a functional animation, they need care put into them or else the whole thing falls apart. What you're suggesting is basically using interpolation as the backbone of a fucking animation.

>>149229857
The effectiveness of a model is a function of the quality and refinement of the training data. If you want a model that is very good at taking keyframes and drawing good inbetweens, you need thousands, preferably tens or hundreds of thousands of examples of keyframes and inbetweens to train the model on what the output for a given input needs to look like. You can't just train it on finished animation. That's why studios have an advantage in this endeavor, a studio like Disney has ~70 years worth of material from every stage of production to work with.

>>149229961
Doing inbetweens for keyframes is not the same as replacing keyframes entirely, anon. Ratios of keyframes to inbetweens in most 2D animation is pushing about 1:5 or 1:6, maybe closer to 1:3 or 1:4 if you're doing a second or third pass to add additional breakdowns before passing it off to the inbetweeners. That's still a *lot* of tedious and uncreative work that could be automated.

>>149228352
NTA but the progressive Tumblr/bReddit/SA shits ruined every institution they touched. I'll never forget it, no matter how much they try to hide their little "long march through the institutions". They were, and always will be, one of several cancers killing everything.

>>149229882
>stole
isn't it fair use? it's one of the most transformative uses imaginable

>>149230174
What about setting two points in the completed animation as 'key frames'?
Or are we talking rough, stick figures to models? I don't know how detailed key frames are.

I started out in midgrade CGI before moving into proompting in 2023. The biggest challenge with generative AI is inconsistency; a minor needed change will result in a reroll of the dice and give you a brand new image/sequence. Yes, there's inpainting for still images but there isn't an equivalent for animated sequences. The studio's going with animals because they don't wear clothes and anatomy is covered in fur. This is a deliberate choice, as is imitating cartoons where no shot is longer than 10 seconds.
It's a fascinating technology but more for the things it nightmarishly misunderstands like physics (gravity, clothing, hair, wind forces), anatomy, materials, etc. that CGI already covers well. These guys are either scammers, deluded or both.
Expect the cat and the mouse to change relative size and appearance, background sets to change props, that sort of thing.
The underlying problems behind all of this have to do with intrinsic issues with how the tech works and no one is interested in rebuilding it from scratch.

>>149230522
It's fun to play with and excellent for pornography but completely artistically bankrupt, I FW it because I want to know its boundaries instead of just repeating other people's paranoid thirdhand comments against it. It's still shit not ready for production pipelines.

>>149230174
Inbetweens are still massively important. They're the difference between an animation looking great and looking like shit. Outsourcing Inbetweens to a machine that has zero knowledge on animation fundamentals is batshit retarded.

>>149230601
It's already here and it's as bad as you'd imagine because again, animation is about abstraction of real world anatomy, physics and mechanics which checkpoints cannot understand, only statistically simulate without context. Pictures are easy, sequences like music or narrative are unholy.

>>149230493
Keyframes are generally very specific points in an animation sequence - key poses and inflection points within motions, etc. or minor breakdowns partway between those to help guide and inform the 'curve' or 'flow' of the animation. Randomly picking points in an animation to designate as keyframes is a poor way to train a model.

To use a data analogy, suppose I want to fit a curve to the data in pic related. If I just pic points at random I might lose critical information about local minima, maxima, inflection points, etc. that are vital to ensuring the resulting curve accurately reflects the data I'm trying to model. Same principle here.

Picking random points in a finished animation also needlessly complicates the model by bringing in other superfluous details - coloring, shading, cropping of frames to simulate camera tracking, etc.

>>149230483
No, it objectively is not. Fair Use isn't strictly about whether something is "transformative", it's a variety of factors, all of which AI generation violates to an egregious degree. You can't even claim it's all that transformative when it usually just imitates an existing piece of media nearly 1 to 1, regardless of your intention.

https://spectrum.ieee.org/midjourney-copyright

>>149230695
Thanks for the breakdown, I legit did not know any of that. (well I had a vague idea of key frames being a start and stop point from blender, but that's it).

>>149226701
>I think the best paralel I can even make is how internet meme culture was in the late 2000's and what slowly become overtime, the rancid filled unfunny trash of people repeating literally the same joke over and over again ad infinitum. Imagine that, for most creative fields.
One of the worst aspects is how the actual structure being pushed for monetized internet content benefits this sort of bullshit. "AI generated videos with more than 4 seconds are less consistent than a chimp with alzheimers? no issue, everything is short form now!" and the overall online monetization of creativity giving priority to ragebaiting and spewing out a torrential storm of shit that would sound like an AVGN bit if you tried to quantify it.

>Is dark, but I already made my piece with it, I will just focus on writing and drawing my own comics for myself and posting on my neocities site. Just my love for the medium, the world can go to hell. is not my problem anymore.
Frankly I'm on the same boat, at least about my own art.

>>149226757
the fucking final chase scene from the amazing bulk where they pull out every goddamn clip art in the shareware disk at once had more artistic cohesion than this shit

>>149230717
The content generated by the AI model may or may not violate copyright depending on what gets produced, but training the model is clearly transformative. You are converting images into an algorithm that generates images.

>>149221754
I used ai and combined a bunch of loras to get an art style i really like, and have been using it to draw stuff for my own game. Also using it to mock up background colors. Really helped me accelerate production and prototype. I do have 12 years in art/animation however, and don't use ai full gen to produce anything.

>>149230777
There's some really great breakdowns on youtube that go over animation techniques, and of course there's copies of technique books floating around on the internet. Williams' Survival Guide has an entire chapter on breaking down the process of mapping out motion and working out your keyframes, breakdowns, etc. There's a lot of physics that goes into animation - understanding how motion, acceleration, and jerk translate into displacement and rotation of objects.

>>149230826
Copyright protections are probably the biggest reason why you're seeing the studios keep everything in-house and developing proprietary models and using their own materials for everything; it's a much easier legal case for a studio like, say, Disney, to claim that content produced by a model *they* made and that *they* trained using art *their* artists produced is protected than it is to claim something generated using an open source model that scrapes random data from the internet like ChatGPT or Dall-E or VEO is protected. The studios see the writing on the wall - AI isn't going away as a tool, but it's only going to be useful if you have some avenue for exerting legal control over the content you make using it.

Let's see, another AI thread, oh boy let's see we get the ads for the AI latest buzzwords that the corporate AI guys came up with mainly being is extremely transformative a statement from a boomer judge who thinks his hot girlfriend is real and needs to travel to him using Google Play cards. And then we're going to get the I do this with AI and you should do it too and look how wonderful I it is great for production posts and then after that we're going to get how we hate artists because artists are evil for some reason. Also I almost forgot the politics we got to get the politics in there you're based if you use AI and you're a homosexual transgender person if you don't. Then after the thread is completely derailed, from the AI defense force/advertisement agency maybe we can actually talk about how terrible this animation is, but then we're going to get the response off just you wait this is the very first AI animation ever made even though it's not. Everyday the same song and dance I feel like we're stuck in a perpetual loop.

>>149230595
>and excellent for pornography
I never got that shit. Even my relatively niche fetish has started to be covered by the slop machine but everything I see from it looks repulsive to me. Even just from a pinup level I can't ignore the myriad of flaws.

>>149230317
You're retarded
Your soul is so stained with culture war garbage that you cannot think outside of a culture war grifter frame.

>>149230826
No, it isn't. For something to be considered transformative, it needs to be both have intent that is radically different from the original and isn't able to compete with the original work in any way. Ai inherently does not have intent, and it competing with the works it's trained off of is practically part of the pitch.

>>149231209
You're confusing the model with the images generated by the model. The model may generate things that violate copyright. The model itself, however, is a transformative use of whatever it was trained on.

>>149230897
>it's a much easier legal case for a studio like, say, Disney, to claim that content produced by a model *they* made and that *they* trained using art *their* artists produced is protected than it is to claim something generated using an open source model that scrapes random data from the internet like ChatGPT or Dall-E or VEO is protected.
I am personally hoping this won't work. I don't think anything "original" generated by AI should be protected. If you're just talking about stuff like inbetweens, though, that's different. If it's derived from and substantially similar to the key frames I suppose it should be protected.

>>149230960
>Even just from a pinup level I can't ignore the myriad of flaws.
Once you've accepted that every prompt has one useful gen and the others are unpleasant to look at, it becomes quite easy.

>>149231614
>once you stop having standards it becomes easy
no shit?

>>149231614
pic unrelated?

>>149231323
At some point we're going to have to establish legal precedents about where the line actually falls between original content and unoriginal content and I suspect that line is going to fall somewhere that makes both sides unhappy.

>>149228174
>D) None of the above.
A hue who makes AI videos of him hugging colorful horses.

>>149223900
>thank God the Chinese are doing open source
>Ni hao! You instarr mahrwae on computah nao!

>>149231713
I think this guy just has a specific gremlin-face fetish. It has to be specifically prompted, this is not a typical AI artefact.

>>149232212
Really? Even the glasses are all fucked up and don't get me started on that pig trotter of a hand

>>149221754
The shitty Pixar cat video garbage is just there to advertise the Ai being used, that's why these things never go beyond "trailers" because they're not really trailers, they're proof of concepts
That's all these Ai images are for, advertisement. It's the only way I can explain why someone would ever fucking bother recreating a meme through Ai, to show off to potential investors what it can do. Anyone not trying to do that would be people trying to cut corners in their own personal work and Coomers who don't like artists