Thread 149221372

Post logical endpoints for a character that got fucked up by future editorial

>>149221372 (OP)
The nurse is confused is as fuck

Pretty much any time Punisher kills Jigsaw. Some people are preoccupied with the idea of Frank having a nemesis. They never stop and wonder why exactly some mobster with a fucked up face should be revived so many times.

>>149221372 (OP)
This thread could be nothing but Spider-Man moments.

>>149221372 (OP)

Kraven's Last Hunt, the Executioner on the Bridge at Gjallerbru, Magneto and Jean in Planet X

>>149221437
If he does it enough times he can hang out with the other scarred bad guys.

>>149221372 (OP)
Yeah I said it

>>149221372 (OP)
Amazing Spider-Man 500 is the canonical end of the series.

>>149221372 (OP)
>>149221474
>>149221564
Sometimes you think you're harsh on the Spider-Man editorial and certain writers from BND onwards and then you go back and look at those old stories and realize you're not harsh enough

>>149221639
>comes back as the green lantern
>saves it from the mediocrity that is kyle rayner
>for a while becomes the most popular dc character
Nah

>>149221564
>Magneto and Jean in Planet X
Wolverine killing Magneto three years before that was the logical end point of X-Men in general.

>>149221887
Rainbow Corps sucks

>>149221372 (OP)
>endpoints for a character
Not possible for capeshit

Every time Harley Quinn has been declared sane and fit to return to society.

>>149221699
That's my favorite one.

>>149221963
Perhaps not for flagship leads no, but characters like Harry and Aunt May should have stayed dead.

>>149221856
We were pretty harsh on a lot of stuff during that clone saga era but for all it's MANY faults you did get a few solid moments like that.

>>149221564
Magneto and Jean both deserve better than Planet X, let them die in a good story at least. Jean's death was especially retarded there

>>149221474
True

>>149222347
I always liked that Mayday wore Ben's suit.

>>149221963
False.

>>149221887
The Johns run did damage to Green Lantern that can never be undone.

>>149221599
There was a joke about that in a Deadpool story.

>>149223480
What damage?

>>149221639
Was Hal going commando to put fear of God into the sinners with pale dong ?

>>149225653
Made him popular and successful while streamlining a bunch of stuff NOBODY FUCKING CARES ABOUT

>>149221437
>hey never stop and wonder why exactly some mobster with a fucked up face should be revived so many times.
Death is canonically optional in Marvel. If you have unfinished business you want to get back to, you'll eventually be revived either directly by magic or science bullshit or indirectly by your death falling out of the timeline.

Literally the only complicating factor is the line to come back can have extra bullshit to deal with depending on which specific version of the afterlife you end up in, and, if you're a fucking idiot, a death god can have a claim on your soul somebody has to get you out of for you to come back.

I'm not sure if this doesn't get brought up enough or it gets brought up too much.

>>149225885
Also even if you don't have unfinished business, somebody can drag your ass out of the afterlife if they have the right connections.

>>149221887
Hal is the least important part of the Rebirth era.

>>149226071
did they ever do a What If where Spidey just never wore the costume ever again after this point? i'm curious

>>149226071
Ain't this what Ditko wanted anyway?

Sandman was way, way better as a hero.
He was never a compelling villain and there are plenty of other elementals who could easily take his niche. It's extremely telling that nobody knows what the fuck to do with him once he became a villain again.

>>149227015
real shame nothing good can last. And all for what? Some hack can go NOT MUH SINISTER SIX.

>>149226524
lol. lmao.

>>149221437
Maybe he gets just away. Seems like a possible thing. Kingpin also never dies by the Punisher's hand and that's more egregious in my humble opinion

>be Phil Urich
>get exposed to the Goblin serum
>get the mask that activates your powers, pretty interesting concept compared to other Goblins who have powers 24/7
>have a short-lived but a pretty decent superhero career because your mask gets destroyed by a rampaging Sentinel
>No complaints here. A self-contained superhero story with a beginning and an end is nice to have
>years later be brought up in Loners only to be character assassinated but nothing that can't be undone
>COME SLOTT
>Phil is now Hobgoblin who's lamer than both Norman and Kingsley with a cringe and creepy (not in a good way) crush on Nora Winters
>be shilled as an annoying villain until everybody catches onto how lame Urich Hobgoblin is
>instead of undoing the damage done by Slott, everybody (including Slott himself) stars shitting on Phil making him everybody's punching bag and a total loser
And this is why sometimes it's better to let sleeping dogs lie.

>>149221372 (OP)
This was a great conclusion for all of them, and i really wish the had stayed dead,

>>149227076
Nope. Phil is Mayday's dorky uncle.

>>149227227
God I miss 2000s Cosmic.

>Spawn-knock off named Nightwatch
>Powers are based off nanotech instead of the supernatural
>Never really gets anywhere and is eventually killed off
>Decade later and he makes an appearance in a She-Hulk comic
>His story is retconned to hell, Nightwatch is a dude named "Nighteater" who goes out of his way to cast a spell to make it seem like "Nightwatch" was an active longtime Superhero
>Also apparently he had to sacrifice a good chunk of a town in North Dakota to get it to work

One of the worst things that can happen to a character in Capeshit is for one writer to personal find you lame because then it's fucking over after that

>>149221392
>is this an IV or the 4th bag? i dont know

>>149227259
it's so dumb and worthless of a rewrite you might as well treat that story like tall tale which the villain told. I cant take that horse shit serious.

>>149227015
Let's be honest here, a lot of Spider-Man villains should have stayed retired when they were (eg Rhino) or should have been given logical outs cause Marvel has no god damn idea what to do with them (e.g. just cure Scorpion's mental illness).

>>149227259
That She-Hulk story had him just be alive again with no explanation, he was somehow a doctor at a hospital instead of being a scientist, and he just got picked to be retconned into a villain because Brevoort blocked Soule from doing this story with an FF character, rumored to be She-Thing.

It's a shame Sony never got their plans for a Nightwatch movie off the ground and forced Marvel into undoing all that.