How would you fix Miles Morales, /co/?

>>149229160 (OP)
Bring Lana Baumgartner back to the title and become a couple with Miles.

fire Ziglar, he's a good character if written well despite /co/ screeching about his existence every day, but this power scaling bullshit needs to stop. it's incredibly obvious Ziglar self-inserts as Miles and has him get all these cool powers and be the coolest guy in the room at any given time, and coupled that with Peter being treated miserably by the editors is why Miles gets so much shit nowadays. it makes it seem like the entirety of Marvel has a preferential treatment towards Miles over Peter but it's just two separate things that end up with devastating consequences together.

fire the fat faggot writing him and give him to someone like Nick Spencer maybe, we'll see a more grounded Miles who isn't a shonen protagonist every other day.

>>149229160 (OP)
He's not broken. He can only be elevated further.

>>149229172
Show off her MILF mother as well for fan service.
Give Miles a supervillain rival who secretly attends his school.
Let Rabble get mindbroken admitting she’s in love with Miles.
Chaos ensues when Tiana reveals she’s pregnant.

>>149229160 (OP)
he should've never been brought to 616, it undermines his entire character and only makes the 616 Spider-people oversaturation worse. and the fags at Marvel are now doing the same with Spider-Gwen because they have zero ideas anymore.

>>149229198
>Show off her MILF mother
who?

>>149229206
I’m glad Ghost-Spider is in the 616 now, but I wish there was a way to bring her bandmates over with her.
But I understand why they couldn’t.

>>149229219
I'm not. as fun as it is to see the Polish Gwenschizo seethe over Spider-Gwen being the de facto Gwen of 616 moving forward, I think keeping her on Earth-65 is lot better. Marvel has a habit of bringing over popular AU characters into 616 instead of just having AU ongoings, and in this case it only makes things worse considering how many Spider-Men/Spider-Women/etc. are already in NYC.

>>149229160 (OP)
With a pair of bolt cutters, easily

>>149229212
Lori Baumgartner, Bombshell

>>149229206
Having recently finished the clone saga I'm salty over the forgone conclusion of them needing to kill off Ben because there was no room for two spider-men and the reality that we live in now

>>149229160 (OP)
Take him to a vet, I'm not qualified to do it.

Silly jokes aside, I think it's more about the things I wouldn't have done.
I wouldn't have given him invisibility and BS electricity powers.
I wouldn't have given him Spider-man's web shooters (would give him his own fighting style).
I wouldn't have let him win the 'go to rich school' lottery. I'd have Miles interact with kids at a low income school and the bucket-of--crabs mentality that can arise there (and showcase Miles' drive to be a better person by not succumbing to the peer pressure... instead of having Miles be a hero because he succumbed to the peer pressure)
I wouldn't have given him Pete's suit in different colours.
I wouldn't have other characters constantly glazing him.
I wouldn't have him interact with 616.
I would have tried to create rogues he has ties to instead of recylcing Spider-man's gallery.
And I would have had him trying to create his own identity, even if it didn't stick (maybe becuase he kept changing it until people just started calling him 'Spider', and eventually 'Spider-man'

>>149229160 (OP)
Why? The comic is doing great right now and is Marvel’s longest numbering without starting over at #1.

Plus Ziglar is giving him great new villains.

>>149229160 (OP)
1. COME UP WITH HIS OWN SUPERHERO NAME. I want to get away from the doublethink where people vehemently insist that he's a proper Spider-Man, yet can't identify him as anything other than 'Miles'. Might as well title his book 'Miles Morales: The Separate-But-Equal Spider-Man'.
2. If we can't move him back to 1610, then at least move him to a different city. Have him live in Atlanta or something, people would eat that up. Fundamentally, Miles was a replacement for Ultimate Peter Parker. Having him in the same space as the original does neither any favours.
3. Cut back the random superpowers.
4. Quit having everyone he meets fawn over him. Even the damn supervillains regularly tell him he's a more likeable Spider-Man than the "other" one. C'mon.
5. Let him grow up, just a little. Get him out of school.
6. Lean into his supposed artistic side. It's meant to be one of the major things which sets him apart from Peter, but how often does it actually come up beyond stereotypical, corporatized hip-hop and graffiti? It's an informed attribute, rather than a legitimate part of his character which helps drive the plot. Give him a job as a working artist of some description. Can he make time for being a hero as well as creating his art? The deadlines involve a lot more effort than homework or photography, but it's something he wants to do just as much as superheroics. Maybe he uses his webbing more creatively, like some of the constructs 60s Spider-Man would make?
7. Lean into him being well off. The kid goes to an elite artistic academy, so he's got connections; let him use them. Everyone around him is Osborn-tier new rich. I'm not saying he needs to be going to Diddy parties, but this angle combined with the aspiring artist point above could and should be used to broaden Miles's personal life a lot more.
8. One of the aspects dropped from Miles's origins was his reluctance to be a hero. Peter's always had guilt/responsibility driving him -- what does Miles have?

>>149229320
>>149229400
about half or more points in these posts stem from Ziglar's writing and/or him being in 616 NYC.
I really think we need more Spider-people in other cities, Kaine and Superior (vol 2) did that really well.

>>149229160 (OP)
Never move him over to a universe with a living Peter Parker. That’s like having a Batman with living parents, it defeats the entire purpose of the character. While I loved the first spider-verse movie, I sometimes wonder what could have been if it was strictly just a Miles Morales movie without all the multiverse stuff. The vibes after blonde Peter died and Miles was truly on his own were immaculate.

>>149229160 (OP)
I actually was thinking about this, and here's how'd I'd handle it.
1) It has to be set in a continuity where Spider-Man dies a hero, and is PERMA-DEAD in this continuity
2) Miles has to be a Spider-Man fanboy who wants to be a crime fighting super hero
3) Miles DOES NOT HAVE and WILL NOT GET spider powers
4)The core dynamic, and premise of the series will be between Miles and Venom.
The series will start with Miles trying to stop some thugs in a homemade Spider Suit inspired by Peter's Black Suit days. He would be in way over his head, and would be rescued by Venom who's more or less filled Spider-Man's role in New York with Peter being dead (in his own incredibly Venom way). Obviously Eddie knows everything about Spider-Man and Peter Parker that the public doesn't, and would constantly remind Miles that he is not and never will be the real Spider-Man. However due to a plot by the Sinister Six, Venom could use a fake Spider-Man to "return" for a bit, and appreciates the attempt to make a Black Suit, and decides to take Miles under his wing. Since the symbiote was linked to Peter, Eddie would be able to teach Miles how the web-shooters actually were built. From there, Miles would start trying to actually live up to Peter while learning the true story behind his idol from his deadly mentor.
Also, I think Eddie as a mentor would be fucking hilarious, imagine him showing up at Miles house and giving absolutely ZERO shits of what his parents think there son is doing with a mid-40's ex journalist white guy who won't shut up about "how much he loves chocolate."

>>149229429
>about half or more points in these posts stem from Ziglar's writing and/or him being in 616 NYC.
>I wouldn't have given him invisibility and BS electricity powers.
Bendis
>I wouldn't have given him Spider-man's web shooters (would give him his own fighting style).
Bendis
>I wouldn't have let him win the 'go to rich school' lottery. I'd have Miles interact with kids at a low income school and the bucket-of--crabs mentality that can arise there (and showcase Miles' drive to be a better person by not succumbing to the peer pressure... instead of having Miles be a hero because he succumbed to the peer pressure)
Bendis
>I wouldn't have given him Pete's suit in different colours.
Bendis
>I wouldn't have other characters constantly glazing him.
Bendis
>I wouldn't have him interact with 616.
Bendis
>I would have tried to create rogues he has ties to instead of recylcing Spider-man's gallery.
Bendis
>And I would have had him trying to create his own identity, even if it didn't stick (maybe becuase he kept changing it until people just started calling him 'Spider', and eventually 'Spider-man'
Bendis

Don't try to blame Ziglar for your mess, Bendis.

>>149229172
BASED!

>>149229160 (OP)
erase him from continuity forever.
shunt him away in some Milestone-esque imprint until permanent cancellation

>>149229637
No. Keep him here.
Shove 616 Peter to there. Then bring over the current ultimate Peter Parker.

>>149229706
keep current Ultimate Peter Parker right where he is

>>149229160 (OP)
>How would you fix Miles Morales, /co/?
>Go back in time to late 2000s
>make sure the plans for Raimi's Spider-Man 4 don't fall apart because of Sony's demands
>This pushes any talk of rebooting and casting a new Spider-Man several years further into the future
>Fan campaign to cast Donald Glover as Peter never gets started because he'll be obviously too old
>Bendis doesn't get inspired to create "Spider-Man, but black"
>Ultimate Universe will still just die in 2015 anyway
>While I'm back in time, lure Slott into a 24/7 all you can eat buffet so he has no time to write comics, and never does Spiderverse

It’s time to make Spider-Gwen his woman.

Miles is clearly a flaming homosexual, it's about time they just came out and confirmed it. It would also be a perfect representation for his racial demographic, considering their homosexuality rates.

>>149229160 (OP)
Delete him and move on.

>>149229160 (OP)
Retcon him to not be a nigger

>>149230517
Sure anon sure. Everyone here believes your rhetoric.
Just keep on flapping.

>>149229160 (OP)
Oh that's easy, I would have a universe without him in it with a comic that has a clear beginning and end that does not involve him in anyway.

>>149230563
Sorry chud, but Miles (AKA Millie) is an egg waiting to crack and all Miles fans know and celebrate that.

>>149230563
You say that as if Miles being gay would diminish him as a character instead of enhance him, You're not homophobic, are you?

>>149229160 (OP)
Is he broken?

>>149230909
He's buckbroken.

>>149230909
He's been around for a decade an a half and no one can really praise anything he's been in.
Other than the movie, I guess. I maintain that people were just wowed by the animation style as it was novel at the time.

>>149229160 (OP)
His dad hasn't come back from getting cigarettes yet. Fixed

>>149230739
Sure anon sure.
We all know what you crave.

well I guess it was nice having a few posts of actual discussion before "Bendis reeeeee" and "Milesnigger needs to be erased reeeeeeee"

>>149229160 (OP)
make 616 Gwen his woman.

>>149231151
you DO mean Spider-Gwen of Earth-616, don't you anon?

>>149230739
The miles/gwen tranny jokes were never funny. Fuck off

>>149231128
>>149231230
>NOOOOO I CAN'T--I MEAN MILES CAN'T BE GAY STOOOOOOOP
Go back to /pol/ and cry about "muh woke", chuddie. We Miles fans accept his queer sexuality because we're not insecure bigots like you.

>>149231282
>t. /pol/fag

>>149231289
I'm not the one frothing at the mouth and shitting my diaper because a comic book character just happens to be gay, anon. Touch grass.

Bring the OG Ultimate Peter to 616

>>149231304
Don’t worry anon we know you want as much gay as possible.

Gwen’s already his bitch.

Miles x Gwen is boring as fuck and it's only good in the movies. I like him with Tiana more.

>>149232030
It's not even good in the movies considering they have zero chemistry with each over. One of the most forced pairings in /co/ media.

>>149230365
I mean, she has no options with any staying power. They're cute together.

>>149232101
How cute, they're using their hands to mimic the shape of Miles' anus after Gwen buckbroke him into oblivion.

Bombshell is for Miles cock only.

I know one way.

>>149232229
The seething would be biblical. Even more than when Selina Dicked down Grayson. It'd be funny for that alone.

>>149232287
Miles should pork Cindy and Gwen.

>>149229160 (OP)
Miles became Spider-Man after Ultimate Peter died, what's point of Miles in a universe with a Peter who's alive?

>>149232469
The point is that everything that features Miles is fap material for Bendis by proxy. It's basically like porn, it doesn't have to make sense. Just look at the shit Milesfags post. It's nothing but race cuck fetish fantasies. That's all the character is.

>>149229160 (OP)
You can’t, as long as bendis gets money and clout then he’s designed to be broken

>>149229160 (OP)
Literally just do what war machine did. Have Miles not be Miles but Hobie Brown. Peter and MJ go to Japan or some shit for JJ so Peter asks Hobie to cover for him again.
They wear identical suits but Hobie relies entirely on tech. He has to pretend to be Peter still without Spider-Sense or Super Strength while still fooling Spidey's enemies
Have Peter's adventures in Japan as a side plot. Bam, hire me Marvel

Does Miles have a Sasuke/Vegeta rip-off guy in his orbit?

>>149232571
Please no, no more fucking anime references

>>149232490
are you actually retarded enough to think the bbc cuck fetish posting is by actual Miles fans and not pornbrained zoomie trash looking to post ragebait? how naive can you be anon?

>>149232619
>pornbrained zoomie trash looking to post ragebait?
Aka, Shartyniggers.

>>149232413
Again, Cindy has no other options. Tying her so closely with Parker's origin was the single most destructive thing to happen to her character. Even more so than the lusting after Peter shit.

>>149232690
>Again, Cindy has no other options
then make new ones, she doesn't have to be Miles harem just because your degenerate blacked harem fantasies

>>149232571
That’s actually what Ziglar is planning to do in the latest arc.

>>149232981
Please understand, these people will literally implode if Miles gets anything that ISN'T Peter's sloppy seconds.

>>149232981
Actually, she does.

It's really too late to do this but I feel like a lot of the problem came from an introductory level. You remember Death of Superman? Specifically the Funeral for a Friend and Reign of the Supermen bit? We needed something like that. We needed a full year of mourning. We needed to see the aftermath really hit the fan. We needed a Battle for the Web were a bunch of imitators and legacies have it out with Miles stepping up to stop the power vacuum

Swagger

>>149233017
I did not expect Zip Zephyr to become as prominent as he has.

>>149233652
Once he finds out Gust is his daughter he’ll change his ways.

>>149233240
All the clones were dead except for Jessica, and there was like 4 issues dealing with the Ultimate Line mourning. It's wholly unnecessary

>>149233652
Sex with Pyrrha.

>>149229340
Wow anon, that’s so cool memorable and unique. Quick, what is miles 100th issue? For such a lasting character that has the benefit of having the LONGEST legacy numbering out of EVERY BIPOC comic hero outside of spawn, certainly you can point to such a historic issue?

>>149233652
Yeah, Zip has been a trip.
And now that we know he was really a demigod, all his bravado seems warranted.

>>149233945
Sorry, but Miles fans don't actually read any of his comics, they just post about hype moments and aura on twitter.

>>149234006
The joke is even if you read EVERY MILES comics, miles morales number 100 DOESN’T EXIST!! At BEST you have to point to a random issue in the 4th or 5th volume to find what COULD be considered HIS 100th issue published

>>149229160 (OP)
delete

>>149234067
But anon, if we keep relaunching his comic, it means he's popular and selling!!! (please don't look at the actual sales)

>>149232549
That would be a great cover to pay homage to if they finally have Miles ditch being Spider-Man #17

>>149234102
Quick give him more powers, that’ll get the readers reading.

>>149234119
Waiter, waiter, more anime slop references please! No, don't look at the actual reasons why anime/manga have been absolutely raping us for years on end, just give me the surface level shit.

Miles being an ally to his bitch Kamala at the Hellfire vigil.
Kamala’s gonna give him cooch.

>>149234181
Garçon, I need more character groveling at miles feet please, show Captain America Thor and iron man sucking miles off as needed please. I don’t want any sort of stakes or excitement, I just need these white bois to tell me I’m important please. Also please show Peter telling miles he’s cooler with a better costume, that’s the absolute HEIGHT of creativity

>>149234297
What's that? A new Spider-Man comic that people actually like and it's selling like hotcakes?
PUT THAT NIGGA IN THERE IMMEDIATELY!!! I DON'T CARE IF IT DOESN'T EVEN FOLLOW THE STORY, I NEED HIM IN THERE NOOOWWWWWWW!!!! (proceeds to sell less than regular USM and next issue ignores it)

>>149234393
You know it’s funny that their really isn’t ANYWHERE in the story as presented that the miles shit could go in ultimate right now. You’d think ziglar would’ve jumped at the chance to show ult peter exactly HOW MUCH maker fucked with his life (as of editorial is now in 616 peter, for the better) but no he just had to write a bland story of Richard sucking miles off and Pete being a prick. It’s weird how much that zesty boi likes his own, presumably STRONG, musk

>>149234297
Damn. Peter bros on suicide watch.
Don’t blame us that Peter’s writers treat him like the shit floating in a kiddie pool.

>>149234449
I’m just here to watch Miles pop the cherries of all the cute Japanese Ultimate X-Men schoolgirls.
I’m thinking….based!

>>149234449
I mean, have you seen what the fat nigga looks like? "Down low" doesn't even begin to describe it, dude is up high (his own colon). He's basically getting paid to show his fetish to the world.
He's practically Bendis except he's actually black, which Bendis desperately wishes he was.

>>149233923
Pyrrha is a fine baddie too.
Just now realizing her shield is a giant clam shell to go along with her water powers.

>>149229197
miles looks really good here, maybe a bit cross eyed, but what the fuck happened magik?

>>149229160 (OP)
Give him a white boyfriend.

>>149229160 (OP)
Give him his own original Spider name. Hood-Spider, Spider-Guy, Black-Spider, Webz, Hip-Hopper, etc..

>>149234249
Bout to give him the sloppiest toppy at this funeral that will somehow rival Jean Grey.
Muties love Spider-Man I guess.

>>149233923
I bet her skin is ultra cold and clammy, like sticking your dick into a dead fish.

>>149229160 (OP)
The most successful addition to the Spider-Man mythos since Venom? Nothing to fix my friend.

>>149229160 (OP)
Make him officially gay

>>149234776
He exists solely to
>ruin Spider-Man's solo shtick and legacy
and
>be black
If you tried to fix those two, you would literally be left with nothing, because that's all he is, and only burgers think this is fine and dandy

>>149235061
>burgers think this is fine and dandy
Clearly they don't, or else his shit would actually sell.

>>149229160 (OP)
The rope?

>>149235117
I mean ideally they'd be in uproar over constant active efforts to smear shit over the Spider-Man brand over 15 years so we could be rid of it, the way they raised a stink over Velma

how about he return to HIS universe? he has no place in 616.

>>149235139
Velma overplayed its hand thanks to its extremely loud and annoying showrunner blatantly self-inserting. What happened to Spider-Man was far more insidious, it was a targeted effort sparked by an industry professional who finally got the opportunity to put his fetishes on paper.

>>149233868
>All the clones were dead except for Jessica,
I didn't say clones, stupid. I said imitators and legacies.
> 4 issues dealing with the Ultimate Line mourning.
Yeah, while this might be a wholly different argument, four issues of Bendis time is like HALF an issue of classic era time. It takes Ultimate marvel 4 issue to make a sandwich.

I would scrap him and put a spotlight on someone better

Even Shift is better than Ben Reilly.

I think he's fine? At least now because someone other than fucking Bendis wrote him. I enjoy his rogues gallery

>>149230517
The zesty walk of gay black teen

>>149231230
The joke that Gwen has the bigger dick was hilarious.

Bit overplayed now

>>149235655
Same here.
His comic is better than ever right now.

Destroy him, make him lose everything, his family, his friends, he is framed for a crime he didn't commit and every other hero starts hating him, then he tries to fight the perpetrator but loses pathetically and only almost survives. Then he will have to start working back from the bottom to get everything back. Because that's what people love, right? Underdog loser heroes.

Even Gwen is copying Miles’ look now.

>>149235327
No one had Spider powers besides Roxxon's imitation OZ formula. The super science to build life-like Spider-man bots didn't exist or gel with 1610's grounded universe. It just ain't happenin'

>>149229160 (OP)
Scale back the huge power boosts he has.
Keep his current ensemble of villains. Hightail, Gust, Rabble, Taskmaster, Gao is a good starting point that doesn't rely too hard on Peter.

...basically, everything prior to Blood Hunt was honestly really good.

>>149236269
What power boost? He's still using the same kit from his Bendis days? He didn't gain any useful skills from the vampirism and it actually hindered his innate abilities. Are you talking about the Herald stuff? That's literally just a title.

>>149229160 (OP)
have him be unceremoniously hit by a car and die.

>>149229160 (OP)
niggers don't get to be spiderman

Anansi is black and he’s literally the first Spider Man in Mythooogy.

>>149236778
Wonder if Spider Grandmother would be older since she is in the creation story of her people.

>>149229160 (OP)
Make him a girl

>>149236516
The funny thing is there isn’t anywhere that miles fits into rivals. At best you’re just waiting for the next Sony movie tie in, but the studio seems to realize that miles adds nothing I terms of flavor text into the cast.

>>149229160 (OP)
Erase him from canon and overall existence.

>>149234755
ha ha imagine

>>149229160 (OP)
Straight up kill him.

>>149229160 (OP)
Spin him off into his own identity, Call him like Shockweb or Electrospinner or something if you're dead set on the electric powers, or double back to that Bloodspider shit they almost did, and have him cover an area Spidey doesn't do so much anymore like make him the Magic Spidey or the like. Give him his own niche and villains.

>>149229160 (OP)
One big Spider crossover event where every Spider-person in the multiverse is brought in. It ends with Mile Morales being the chosen one to save the multiverse but at the cost of all other spider-people being absorbed into his essence. From then on he is the only and greatest Spider-man, but he can commune with the other Spideys Avatar-style or force ghost style when in need of their wisdom. Obviously, Miles communes with Peter the most frequently. When the going gets tough and Miles starts to doubt himself, Peter will appear in his mind to remind Miles of how awesome Miles is - after all Miles is the best Spider-man ever and needs not doubt himself.

>>149229160 (OP)
Unperson him.

You know it's Miles and not Peter when your crimefighter smells like a bunch of these have been soaking in a gym bag