Could a director's cut save Elio?

>>149230091 (OP)
>the gay cut
>wtf, why are kids running out of the room and laughing? Laughing in a bad way.

>>149230091 (OP)
The original Elio sounded like a vanity project by a faggot director who became blind to the realities of social norms and values outside of himself and the idyllic multicultural genderspazzed San Francisco realm he prances around in.
Truth is, these are huge and grotesquely expensive endeavours, and creating ridiculously niche faggot propaganda isn't going to have wide-market appeal.
This defanged and defaggoted Elio on the other hand, has a different issue wherein this is absolutely zero hook. Nothing conceptually that immediately compels people, upon seeing the poster, or the advert, or the McDonalds Toys. All it suggests is another gay purply vaguely sci-fi experience like Light Year, and Strange World, and whatever, that they're all now trained to avoid.
Even Turning Red, which featured the same Tumblry burger-king-kids-club diversity managed to easily sell the puberty metaphor aspect to girls.
Elio is just a colossal fuck-up in market awareness and budgeting from the get-go.
You can tell this had to have been greenlit in the rarefied post-Obama progressive tide of noncery that proliferated in the late 2010's, when those mega gaylords thought they were absolutely unstoppable.

>>149230091 (OP)
>No a single person on the entire test audience raised their hand when asked about if they would pay to see the director's cut
>Gay shit
There's your answer, NO

>One kid seems to LOVE the speedo man!

>>149230091 (OP)
The only director's cut that could save elio is a cut to the disney corporation's throat

>>149230091 (OP)
No you faggot

>>149230142
Based

It's hollywood, every director's cut

>>149230120
>a vanity project by a faggot director
That’s what Luca, Turning Red, and Elio were. Directors really think their childhood is worthy of a movie.

>>149230091 (OP)
Honestly, yes
For the sole reason that it would have dramatically reduced the budget and made it more likely to at least break even.
No one was going to watch either version, how many tens of millions did they waste to get the same end result?

>>149230091 (OP)
Lmaooo

>>149230249

>>149230091 (OP)
It's a story about a boy getting abducted by aliens or something and basically becoming their king, right? That's a pretty simple power fantasy to sell to young boys. They just had to focus on making the MC look cooler. This is the kind of movie where you want your young male audience to imagine themselves in the character's place, so you don't want him to come across as lame or weird looking.
If they'd gone with the usual human style from previous movies like Inside Out and given him a bit more edge, the movie would have likely done a lot better.

>>149230120
>those mega gaylords
Using that, thanks.

>>149230299
The director is a loud and proud faggot, he outright stated Elio is based on how he didn't feel "at home" until he left his hispanic family behind to go to artschool and be the faggiest fag who ever fagged.
He's the kind of guy who can only ACCIDENTALLY create cool masculine stuff, like the faggot who wrote Fight Club.

>>149230279
And this problem has been made even worse in recent decades. Think about it, modern young adults, their childhoods were locked in probably playing video games, being social media attention woman whores, being on youtube, using tablets, watching streams. With no meaningful life experience their childhoods are a BORING thing to make a film about. Even worse they use the chance to make a movie to be their uninteresting shitty self therapy session this is why I hate Disney's Amphibia in particular the creator said he wanted to show how great Thai Culture was as if anyone in the United States gives a damn about Thailand.

Between the dull uninspired lives modern entertainers live and how they use media for self therapy Feel Sorry For Me bullshit it's a real shit show what's become of western entertainment. Not that foreign entertainment is much better because if I have to hear about another anime that starts promising but ends on a fart or another isekai for failures at lives to feel good about their loser selves I'm going to scream.

Given everything that's going on the last piece of western media that I liked was the FIRST Matrix movie. A movie that reveals how fake reality has become. That's what we have now, a lot of fakeness. Even worse ai technology boosts how fake things are.

>>149230334
God I hate Fight Club and how many idiots think that story was any good. When I saw the main protagonist rescue the trashy drug addict slut I was disgusted by that loser.

The movie had an interesting premise at first but it ends on Status Quo Restored. Oh sure the whole bombings still happen but the main protagonist resolves himself to finally accepting the same society he initially felt wrong about, that's the note the story ends on for the film.

Just imagine. You get your big break. You're finally able to make THE movie you personally want to make. You poor your love sweat and tears into it, making a deeply personal story that really resonates with you, and you can wait to share it with other like minded people.
Only for not a single fucking person wanting to pay to watch it, not even out of morbid curiosity.

>>149230481
If I had a chance to make a seriously major theatrical movie I would do what Chris Sanders did when he created Stitch. Sanders made Stitch as an intentional mascot type character that he personally voices. This way he has a big reason to automatically earn royalty money from merchandise.

And since Stitch DID become a successful character with mainstream audiences for muliple decades Chris Sanders cashed out and has become rich through Stitch. That's the smart move to make. He's become so rich due to his affiliation with Stitch that he doesn't need to work anymore.

>>149230462
You sound like that Chuck pillowbiter.
Remember how he wrote a dogshit comicbook sequel out of spite for people enjoying the movie wrong lmao?

>>149230481
He got to make Coco and Coco 2 I don’t feel bad

>>149230546
Didn't know about that but then again I was disappointed by the story so I never investigated further about the creator or that he made a sequel.

>>149230554
Coco is a horrible movie. You need to forgive abusive family members? I still hate how that bitch great grandmother never apologizes to her musician husband when she discovers he is innocent. That she was hating him even after dying for no reason. And don't say That's How Latina Women Are. That is a disgusting shitty story with a horrid cunt. Totally ruined the movie for me.

>>149230589
You should honestly read it, pirate it even
Palahniuk has complained extensively over the years about how the movie has defined his entire career when he originally set out to make it a "no u" joke about his experiences in gay bath houses and he ended up creating a new Taxi Driver in the process

>>149230249
Damn that's a good one.

>>149230608
>That's How Latina Women Are
Well that's precisely what's missing from all these new defanged fag-brown disney properties.
Remember how Cuzco is initially an abject piece of shit?

RELEASE THE FAG CUT

>>149230279
Encanto also

>>149230120
If it's not some gay director making a movie about their childhood, then it's ANOTHER director making a movie about
>Their weird awkward immigrant parents and how frustrating it is to be asian in America
>How their traditional old timey grandma didn't accept them like the other grandkids
>How their overbearing mother embarrassed them
>The time their parents divorced

It's nothing but arrested development narcissists bitching about their childhoods across the board. That's it.

>>149230091 (OP)
Narcissistic fags really REALLY need to fucking learn that no one gives a shit about how gay they are. And the rest of us desperately want to continue to not have to give a shit forever after. Bitching about it on social media or using clickbait news to be angry about how 99% of America does not give a shit how gay they are will never ever change that.

>>149230334
A latino faggot? Burgerland ruin fucking everything

>>149230279
forgot Encanto Bao, Purl, 20 Something, Nona, Self...pretty much the entire shorts department has been hijacked by directors who want to bitching about how nervous and weird they were as kids with self-insert stories.

>>149230936
Exactly. If they just kept their faggotry in the privacy of their own homes like they originally said they would, no one would have a problem with them. Unfortunately they're obsessed with making gay content to groom children and that is why the entire public has turned against them. If they kept this shit to themselves and left the kids alone, fags and troons wouldn't be experiencing the hate they currently are. They all have persecution complexes but honestly they bring it all on themselves with their creepy behavior.

>>149230279
>>149230961
Surprised everyone is ignoring Elemental as an obvious asian-in-america allegory. They even have a "you speak so well" line which makes no sense outside of the allegory.

I miss it when Pixar made movies about midlife crises.

>>149230936
>>149230974
It's because society has moved to basically worshiping them and giving them all of their narcissistic impulses. Ever seen how totally random people on the sidewalk will near consistently congratulate and compliment any gay couple they see? People wanting their good boy points that afternoon will constantly do that. Seek out any gay person in public and get to work congratulating them or complimenting them. A few years of that shit will make anyone begin to always assume they are some super special amazing protected class.

>>149230974
They even have the audacity to fly a FLAG, as if they're a NATION, with HISTORY and CULTURE, a nation of sodomy and decadence. There is no gay farmer, no gay labor, no gay history, just the pride of 'we're fucking each other in the ass and using a symbol to usurp the nation that hosts us'. It's sick we let it get this far, and it only ends one way, and they don't win. The only thing holding back their destruction is the assumption someone else will do it. They're all dead when people realize they have to be the ones to put the fags in the ground.

>>149231058
It's the same as how the Ottoman empire treated their eunuch jannisaries, same with troons.

>>149231061
They also stole and subverted the biblical symbolism of the rainbow, partly because they know little kids are attracted to bright colors.

>>149231061
It is insane how no one has ever really taken a minute to notice how they wrap 100% of their identity complete with fucking flags, around who they are fucking and how often they fuck. That's it. All of their identity and personality is based on who they are fucking.

>>149231113
We notice, we just get called homophobic if we point it out. Their entire identity is based around sticking their dick in the hole shit comes out of, and getting ass fucked.

>>149230091 (OP)
It is god damn frustrating how modern post tumblr artist turned professionals cannot tell any story outside of their personal self insert shit about how they were an awkward weird fat kid that nobody else in the class or family liked.

>>149231183
It's not even just the vulgarity of their practices, it's the desire for youth. It's to get younger and younger as possible, and it's prevalent in even the respectable ones.

Stephen Fry's this classy, posh gentlemen gay and even he in bloopers is making comments about 'that's why they they've got to be under fifteen' in QI cutting room videos. It's dancing, poking, to see if they've cooked things enough to be open about how much teen grooming is prevalent in the gay community. Every single one of them has a story of their first time being with an adult, or getting raped as a child. It spreads through pedophilia, but that's bigoted, that's a trope, and when it's found again and again, that's an isolated incident, and anyway, the moderation they've wormed into will clean it up because you're supposed to not express those opinions in public. Everyone hates them, but no one thinks anyone else does.

>>149231061

You guys are obsessive.

>>149231183

To be fair, you are homophobic.

>>149230091 (OP)
The Elio trailer from two years ago is MUCH, MUCH WORSE than any trailer for the final film.

>>149231347
I'm fine with that label, pedophile.

>>149231360
To be fair, you fuck kids.

>>149231379

Cry for me, faggot.

>>149231360
I'm not afraid of fags. It's more like I have fag fatigue. I used to even support you creeps before you started trying to groom kids.

>>149231392
No.

>>149231425
>creeps

Call is coming from inside the house.

>>149231058
it's called idolatry. putting people on pedestals and imagining they are your saviors and you are their saviors. it's a wonderful feeling: saving them and being saved by them. until the illusion fades and the looking glass reflects both ways, people who want to be idolized and people looking for idols.
IMO, there are secular reasons why the Bible's second & third commandment forbid idolatry.

>>149231431
Leave the kids alone, fag.

>>149230091 (OP)
Yeah, Inside Out 2 and Elio are actually gayless after terrible Lightyear gay scene.

>>149231450

Leave your basement.

>>149231431
>no you
You Fuck. Kids.

>>149231461
You're projecting.

>>149231461
You fuck KIDS.

>>149231468

Still waiting on your research paper.

>>149231456
Inside out 2 was still extremely gay, with the lesbian diversity crew girls hockey team, and Riley openly crushing so hard on the dyke coded Latinx hockey girl from San Francisco.

>>149231480
You don't deserve one. You fuck kids.

look at all these upcoming original movies

>>149231495
Fags get so mad when you call them what they are and remove their access to kids. Every single time.

>>149230921
They still don't get the memo and that's why they are getting BTFO by either:
Nonsensical random bullshit with some meta commentary (TADC, italian brainrot, skibidi, etc.)
Run of the mill action full of tropes and hero journey pastiche (Cultivation, chink shit, litrpgs, anime, etc.)

Disney, Pixar, and all these other major studies can not, and will not, read the room anytime soon.

Asking whether you would watch a movie in theatres or not is kind of a bad question given how streaming is the preferred format for the average watcher nowadays.

>>149231507
Hoppers is about a dyke environmentalist who transforms in to a beaver.

>>149231528
Well Hollywood hates that, so this is the question they asked. And I bet if they asked if they'd watch it alone at home, they'd get the same response.

zootopia was the last good disney movie
that's almost a decade of slop since then

>>149231521
CalArts teachers hate anime because the tropes filled storytelling and good-looking characters with visual appeal and heroic traits. Pixar, infested by CalArts graduates, is actively avoiding making something that appeals to kids. The message prevails above all else. If the movie isn't beating you over the head with an agenda driven allegory, Pixar won't make it. And that's why they're doomed to fail.

>>149230091 (OP)
>Remove the gay love interest
>MC is still an effeminate flaming faggot
>"BUT WE DIDN'T MAKE HIM GAY, WE DID WHAT YOU ASKED :("

Holy fuck, they just don't get it

>>149231528
It's a solid market research question that reveals if there's interest in the movie or not.

>>149231517
I don't care if they're mad anymore. Awful people are awful and need to be stopped, and their whatabouts are as awful and shallow as they are.

They fuck kids, I don't. I'm better than them and that's all that needs to be said.

>>149231565
They're trying to rile up the gays to go see this movie as some kind of activism. It's literally Pixar's only hope, but they aren't showing up.

>>149231507
>Coco 2
What the fuck?

>>149231581
I agree. Everyone is collectively sick of their shit at this point. Their guilttripping and smears of homophobia and victim acts don't work anymore. They did it to themselves.

>>149231468

Always lead by example, anon.

>>149231556
Is this new? Was it for Hoppers?

>>149231643
Harvey Milk was a gay pedophile. The guy who invented gender theory Dr. John Money was a gay pedophile.

>>149231637
You can't make a society around celebrating navel-gazing and self-righteousness. Even French Kings learned that.

>>149231643
What?

>>149231580
In a post-covid world? Doubtful.

>>149231521
It's why they get BTFO by sequel #7 of some decades old franchise. Because that old franchise is tired and done but it's still an actual movie made to be fun and entertaining, not a trauma dump by some director.

>>149231688
It's the homosexual pedophile version of
>no u

>>149231360
To be fair, you are straightophobic.
Hey imagine if straight white males had words we could label people with and automatically win every argument.

>>149231699
Shit you're right. I guess we gotta spend another 300 million dollars on another art queer's childhood in cartoon allegory, but THIS time we ask the test audience if they'd watch it on streaming. THIS time it will reach the audience that exists, that we cultivated with all those bots, to shame everyone into being just like. This time.

Maybe it can be a story about fruits, and how a rotten fruit past his ripe and a fruit that hasn't ripened yet can fall in love. And then they fuck on camera.

>>149231521
>Made a game about a big sock monkey that chases you around
>It makes millions and kids fucking love it
>Legendary wants to make this into a movie

Yes because it's SOMETHING that is not a gay director forcing their childhood stories onto the audience.

>>149230091 (OP)
If you're gonna go gay you need to go full brokeback mountain crust busting.
This halfway shit is gayer than actual gayness.

I think modern-day writers and artists are just fucking hacks, man. If your fictional 10-year old suddenly loses a major part of his personality because he can't be gay anymore, then maybe he was always shit to begin with.

Even WALL-E, a character who is in a romance story, has more character traits outside of being in love with EVE. He's curious, gentle, lonely, creative, organized, dedicated, he's a fucking stacked character and he barely has to say a word.

Meanwhile, they really want to claim that Elio being a closest gay boy is integral to this story about meeting aliens and, even though he has no love interest, removing this element destroys the character? Really? Are you fucking sure it does? Or are you just a shit writer?

>>149231779
I don't care about this movie or modern Pixar whatsover. Just saying it's kind of silly to pretend normies still care about theatres.

>>149231779
I don't care about this movie or modern Pixar whatsover. Just saying it's kind of silly to pretend normies are still invested in theatres as they were a decade ago.

Also, there's more batshit stuff in this article like a voice actor no longer interested in the movie being Molina was not the director anymore, stating that she was upset the movie was no longer being helmed by a Latinx person.

The more I read about this movie, the more it's obvious it was a fucking ticking time bomb of shit. I love Pete Docter's work at Pixar, but I don't think he's the right guy to be taking over Pixar and filling Lasseter's shoes if he's going to allow the studio to be run like this. Someone needs to go in and clean house of these sabotaging "creatives" who seem like they're only trying to make movies to get a GLAAD award or some shit.

Here's the article if anyone else wants to read it from OP's post:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/elio-pixar-america-ferrera-director-queer-2-1236301860/

>>149230120
>when those mega gaylords thought they were absolutely unstoppable.
I couldn't help but laugh at the absurdity of it all.
But you are correct, there was a time when they couldn't be stopped and had all the financial power to push through loses.

Hubris wasn't possible in that world, but the world changes and those that refuse to change are left behind, now those companies need money and to repair their brand image, people are soured on the whole concept they are trying to sell to and as you pointed out after a decade of bad experiences the general audience has been Pavlov'd into barking at woke at the slightest provocation.

We live in weird times, I just wanted cool action cartoons and all I got is a decent couple of stop motion movies that somehow dodged all this nonsense for being niche to begin with.

>>149231479
I thought pedophilia was based and liberals opposed it

>>149230120
I would be interested in seeing this original cut. I don’t think it’d be good but I would be interested in seeing what the story really was. Apparently, “boy goes on adventure in space” was simply not interesting enough to Pixar so faggotry was the actual story. This is evident because stripping it out left the movie utterly plotless and un-engaging. Even more so than what it was about gayness.

>>149231933
Liberals keep trying to legalize it and keep trying to add MAPS to the Lgbtq+ alphabet people spectrum

>>149231933
No.

>>149230091 (OP)
>"Gawrsh Max sure has a lot of posters of men around his room"*hyuck*

>>149230091 (OP)
Disney purged the gay out of Elio

>>149231933
It's not a left/right issue, it's an authoritarian/libertarian one. Right and left authoritarians want to hang the pedos, left and right libertarians want to be the pedos.

>>149231660
I'm pretty sure that was for Win or Lose.

>>149230249
Ooooh!

>>149231604
And now Pride Month is over. Pfft.

>>149231360
Die.

>>149230091 (OP)
Aside from Rango, are there any director's cuts of movies?
>Thief and the Cobbler Recobbled cut
Unfortunately, that is not an official cut of the film.

>>149230091 (OP)
Nah, cause even the test audiences hated it.
It's unsalvageable.

>>149230091 (OP)
No

>>149231563
The sad fact is that its not even just actual anime and movies anymore that are beating pixar, *in engine video game scenes* for *gachaslop designed to run on your phone* are are full of the fun and dynamic animation magic that pixar has lost.
Hoyoverse garbage succeeds not just because it is waifu-based gambling, but because when they break out the cutscenes they look great. They have to, because thats how you get people to care about the waifus enough to gamble for them in the first place.

>>149230091 (OP)
Of course not. But what's the worst that could happen.

>>149233641
False vacuum decay.

>>149230279
probably because people have been turning their childhood memories into successful media for centuries without faggots pretending it's some kind of weird outrage.

>>149232023
lol, this is not a thing that has ever happened. gay hatred of nambla is as old as the hills.

>>149230279
And who's greenlighting these movies? These movies are the direction the studio wants to go in for some reason, it isn't simply just the directors. Some of thse people have worked at Pixar for years and directed their own shorts or even written for previous movies.

>>149233651
Dequantize this for me. What the FUCK is the a truer stable state of an extra gay disney movie? Kim Jong Un seeing it, losing his shit and starting WW3? China deciding that Disney is done, and becoming the cultural center of the world? A spontanious neutron chain reaction in the clouds setting the atmosphere on fire?

>>149233892
Harvey Milk, hero to the gays, was himself a pedophile. Dr John Money, creator of gender theory, was himself a gay pedophile.

>>149233247
> It's unsalvageable.
Just like that super gay anime you keep spamming.

>>149235748
nice job bumping this from the ass end of page 10 right before it was about to archive retard, there's already 2 other twitter screencap threads about this slop on the catalog.

>>149230279
Your childhood can be a movie but only if your childhood was shit. Nobody cares about the cozy event-free lives of some californian rich kids living inside gated communities.

>>149235843
I know everyone wants to believe they're the heroes of their own story but the truth of the matter is sometimes people, even minorities, just aren't that interesting.

>>149235762
And you've never seen it, just like I will never see Elio.

>>149230249
hehe

>>149235876
>And you've never seen it
Because I’m not a gay, or a tranny, or a pedo like you.

>>149236125
Anyways enough about yourself.

>>149236138
(You) are the tranny spamming your crappy anime for little girls, not me.

>>149235864
True.

>>149230091 (OP)
>>149231816
>Original cut of the movie was going to have Elio imply that he's gay
>Test audiences didn't want to watch that so Pixar cut out the gay stuff
>According to the staff, this means that a crucial part of the identity of this movie has been removed meaning that Elio is a movie without meaning
>Despite this, Elio still has good reviews from critics and audiences alike even though it's looking to be a massive flop

This means that the original cut of the movie is worse than the version we got even though the director, staff, and diversity consultants say otherwise.

>>149236150
Transphobia. Gross.

>>149237648
Transpeople are indeed gross

>>149230091 (OP)
They didn't edit the movie to remove gay shit. They retooled the entire thing from the ground up. Changed the plot, changed the villain, changed just about everything. The original draft was so much worse than they nearly scrapped the entire thing, but thought the basic idea of a faggoty little brown kid doing a space adventure was worth the quarter-bil budget and several extra years in production. They were wrong, of course. Never should be been greenlit at all.

>>149230091 (OP)
I think if the original cut was released it would make the movie more interesting. As is, it's a very basic film, so releasing the alternate version would make the discussion more interesting, even if the original take was bad.
We know it was further along in production than most cancelled productions due to the original teaser, so there's at least half of the movie fully animated and voiced somewhere locked up.
I hope it gets to see the light of day eventually, and if this causes enough on an uproar, maybe someone will leak it.

>>149238274
Like yourself.

>>149232023
>>149233892
It is natural to fuck boys biggots.

>>149230091 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tXr6UtyQzw&ab_channel=SurvivingAnimation

>>149231604
>but they aren't showing up.
Considering they didn't show up with Lightyear despite every fucking interview about that movie in the leadup being about that gay kiss and it flopped, I wouldn't bet on it.

Shit, remember Bros? No, you don't, but it was a movie about gay dudes that the director bitched about not enough straight people supporting(Before eventually walking it back like 2 weeks later when he fell out of the news, again.) Gays want you to make shit for them but either they don't watch it or there's next to none of the fuckers who actually exist.

>>149231360
kek

>>149230091 (OP)
>Could a director's cut save Elio?
I think Disney should spend a 100 million more dollars making the director's cut. I love watching Disney blow money on bad ideas

>>149230279
I think the problem is they're not using their childhood as a jumping off point, they're mostly verbatim just retelling (more or less) exactly what their childhood was like. Miyamoto said that the Legend of Zelda was inspired by him exploring caves as a kid. You don't only explore caves in that game, you fight bad guys, discover secrets, find loot, and you do it to a kick-ass soundtrack. The point was to copy the vibe or feeling he had a child, not just copy what he did as a child.

Personally, I just think this film looks super bland. The writing doesn't seem thoughtful or engaging, the designs are super uninspired, and it's modern Pixar so they can't even do edgy shit anymore like thrown the villain of the film into a jet turbine. In short, it's boring and gay.

>>149230091 (OP)
pixar could literally do something far more interesting if it was rated R and did something a bit edgier. disney loves variety so why not a filipino fantasy story with aswangs and manananggals as the villains

>>149238396
He meant (You), tranny.

>>149230091 (OP)
No, lol.

It would be hilarious if they spent another $200 million on this flop to put out the worse version and it flopped even harder. Morbin' Time would have nothing on it and maybe Pixar would finally go under for good.

>>149231507
> Gatto
We're never getting a White movie out of these fuckers ever again. I'm done. I don't care what they do or what happens to them.

>>149231816
They are hacks. Talentless, nepo baby hacks. They're basically like middle schoolers writing fanfiction.

>>149231890
> Having to go to the studio and record her lines "took it's toll."
Lazy mexicans was never a stereotype

>>149231787
This is why Zootopia 1 is blowing all the later queer propaganda out of the water. I hope they continue with 2, and don't let a queer woman or gay man direct. They literally can't control themselves and have to make their project about themselves, under the thinking "if they love my work, then they love and accept ME!"

I think people need to understand a hidden truth about Disney:

They haven't changed their slogan. They're still "The happiest place on Earth". "gay" used slang for "happy". Connect the dots. Disney is in it to the neck for gays, as opposed to normal, straight people. That's why it seems all their directors and creative staff fly the rainbow flag. Disney is the modern day Filmation, but on steroids.

>>149230091 (OP)
Elio thread, someone post that frame where he looks like a monkey

>>149231890
"Sources tell"
Do you think it was America who said latinx or the faggy Pixar employee source kek. Good excuse to the leave the project desu, even Molina was removed to work on a sequel instead. God I wish I could find it rn but I read an article on the development of Luca mentioning Pete Doctor was more soft spoken and made development easier, felt it was describing what you're saying. Maybe they played their hand too early in announcing the movie's release date when they should've scrapped it completely and reworked it completely instead of simply a delay. It's not exactly of unheard.

>>149239907
Gatto is Italian for cat too, the movie will take place in Italy and will be directed by Enrico Casarosa, the Luca guy. I don't blame your pessimism, Pixar hasn't done anything truly worth while in a long time.
>>149241915
>>149231890
Found it
>The process of shaping the film got easier when, during production, John Lasseter, the former Pixar bigwig, left the studio and was replaced by Pete Docter, the soft-spoken filmmaker behind “Inside Out” and “Soul.” “(Lasseter) had great instincts but it was a little more dogmatic,” Casarosa said. “You’d feel like, I have to do this.” Casarosa found himself being more “honest” with Docter and in turn felt more supported.
https://www.thewrap.com/luca-enrico-casarosa-awards-interview/
>>149239113
#releasethemolinacut