When did Bob's Burgers start to go downhill?

>>149239435 (OP)
I've been marathoning it while washing dishes, it's a fun time. Louise is probably the best part of the show but everyone's fun.
I hope it doesn't actually go downhill and you're just saying whatever to start your thread with.

>>149239435 (OP)
when you started watching it

>>149239435 (OP)
The moment it aired
This is the single most boring cartoon I have ever seen

>>149239435 (OP)
It's KOTH-tier where it doesn't become unwatchable but it definitely never goes beyond fine or okay.

>>149239435 (OP)
well the movie was unwatchable, so that

>>149240204
First 3 season where good 4 is ok but it dipped hard. 5 onward has its occasional moment but it never reaches the heights as 1 2 & 3

>>149239435 (OP)
When they found out kids were watching it.

>>149239435 (OP)
Starts in S6
By the time we get to S8, it's fully become the Schmaltzy Feelgood Musical Show

>>149239435 (OP)
Seasons 1 and 2 were fun, season 3 became consistent, season 4 was its zenith, season 5 had a few cracks showing but still had some fun episodes, season 6 is where it takes a fucking nosedive. The episode that made me give up on the show was the one with Tina going to horse riding school.

>>149240455
>>149240458
Pretty much. Also because of this >>149240370 They have cut back on the music though.

>>149240204
You've clearly never watched King of the Hill.

>>149240208
>>149240204
>>149241154
https://youtu.be/2s57JBUD1AY?si=ixbJxyOrQ0BCKDji

>>149239435 (OP)
which ever season had the wharf murder mystery 2 parter. That's the last season where the show focuses on the adults. The kids started to become actual kids instead of the idea of kids. Plus the last time we see mort for a while iirc.

season 1 and 3 were decent. 4 kind of was ok but the dip in quality happened really fast. season 2 is an outlier. it had some pretty weak eps and idk why.

too much focus on annoying child characters

>>149239435 (OP)
Lots of little things adding up
>Declawed Louise
>Focused on Bob being a pathetic wimp
>Made Gene less of an diamond on the rough talent and more of a talentless spectrum kid
>Made Tina the writers pet much like how Simpsons writers did for Lisa
>Made Teddy a bit too much like Bill from KotH
>Losing Bob's rival, Jimmy Pesto
>plots that don't really go anywhere, (Bob needs to get a needle put in him, he doesn't like needles, he winces the whole time, it's done)

But the thing I think caused most of this to happen was the show leaning heavy on those 'sentimental' moments. The focus on Regular-Sized Rudy and his 'touching' relationship with this divorced dad is the biggest cowbell, early Bob's Burgers would have mocked this show for leaning so hard on the sweetness factor.

I watched every episode until like season 7 or so. I personally think that's when it dropped in quality for me. I think the kids episodes lost the charm they had but also became to prevalent.

>>149241478
This. Bob's Burgers lost me once it stopped being about BOB AND HIS BURGERS.

I really wanted to post Louise, but Tina deserves more love.

>>149241637
>>plots that don't really go anywhere,

I prefer that over shows that TRY to go anywhere but dont.

>>149239435 (OP)
It was never uphill. The entire show is just a constant beatdown of Bob by everyone around him, including his wife.

>>149242052
But it was at least entertaining when Bob was more Angry Dad than Sad, Doormat Dad. Seeing him get visibly annoyed or outright angry at both the antagonist-of-the-week or even a family member made for some reliable and often times funny conflict.

The writers' decision to soften up the show to be more "family-friendly" shouldn't have meant making Bob such an inactive character.

For me it was the Amelia Earhart episode. You couldn't have had a more "I'm Emmybait" episode than that one

This too >>149241478
Why the fuck is every plot now revolving around school crap?

OP here, I made this thread because I'm in the middle of season 8 now and something about the show just feels kinda... off. The writing is very formulaic and I'm not laughing nearly as much as I used to. There's no one episode that's "bad" per se, but some of the Tina-centric episodes are down-right disappointing and the climaxes/resolutions are really weak and it seems like the writers aren't even trying anymore. And I was just wondering when exactly this change happened because I've been in and out of my watch through so I don't remember noticing the change.

Also I agree with what this anon >>149242174 overall says. At the start of the show Bob was just your average joe-shmow that was annoyed with his eccentric wife and kids who were constantly getting him and his business in trouble. Now it seems like all traits of the characters and show overall have been flattened or evened out across the whole thing.

>>149242872
>it seems like the writers aren't even trying anymore.
Pretty much this. if you ever watch the behind the scenes stuff in the early seasons you could feel the strong enthusiasm everyone had for the show. Now they are just clocking in thanking God they have work right now.

>>149242280
Cause Loren's kids watch now

>>149243642
I believe that's why they're pushing for 20 seasons despite the show being deader than dead nowadays. It's been very good job security for many of the writers who've been there since the beginning, so they've all agreed to never let go.

It's sad, really...

>>149239435 (OP)
When both Bob and Louise slowly started to transition into the horrible, boring shells of their former selves they currently are. It is absolutely criminal how hard these characters regressed, Bob can barely even finish a sentence without stuttering/pausing between words and Louise is just some low-energy sad girl now who every once in a while has the stock "wowe she has feelings too!!" episode, with absolutely 0 resemblance to the funny child psychopath that made most people check out this show to begin with back in the day.

>>149243698
>Louise hanging out with Gene and Tina
>some girls of Louise's own age ask her to come over and play with them
>she blows them off
>Chloe Friggin' Barbash then just spit straight facts and call Louise exactly what is: Baby

>>149243767
What's more sad is how the hollowood/ talent culture is designed in a way that many creators don't make enough to be secure for the next few decades. Instead they get paid enough to keep going until the next job and are forced to hold on until they are well past washed up then bloating the teams so more writers have to share between the dwindling pie. What they should do is pay the creators well when they make for the high end productions something but cycle them out so we have fresh talent that's incentivized by big money to deliver. the fresh talent would have to come from small projects that have proven to be appealing to minimize risk and that way we don't have zombie shows that are just content to remain existing.

>>149242872
So you're saying they've been flanderized?

Season 5. Most episodes are a 5/10, either the A or B plot suck in each and every episode.

>>149243834
This show would never have been with minimized risk.
Louise really knows sexuality, Gene is trans coded, Tina is super horny, human flesh in hamburgers, the child molester it comes with candy.

>>149241637 plots that don't really go anywhere
>>149240208 it definitely never goes beyond fine or okay.
>>149243642 Now they are just clocking in

BB/Loren are playing things safe but they're getting away with it. Why not milk the show dry if normies slurp it up mindlessly? It's going for 20+ more seasons of mediocrity

Bob's Burgers panders to normies and leftists (not obsessive weirdos from the fanbase aka the fans who conplain the most about the changes)

It's mediocre but not unwatchable. The show could push things more but they're playing it safe in order to skirt by or milk it or pander to the lowest goyslop or whatever

It's an adult show that became a glorified baby show and they want that family audience. This is what sets Bob's Burgers apart from The Simpsons maybe? Like a watered down Simpsons ok

>>149241124

>>149244111
Blessed trips, canon trips

>>149239435 (OP)
the burger tournament arc

>>149244197

Sex with Tina.

I quite like the first couple of seasons of this show but I honestly could not tell you who's still watching, but I ESPECIALLY could not tell you who watches the Great North. At the very least I can picture Bob's Burgers as some kind of "legacy" show that had some cultural relevance in its early years, and it surviving through that alone. Great Norf is not something I have ever heard anyone talk about, nor have I ever seen someone post a clip of it, or draw (non-lewd) fanart for it, or even bring it up in a list when talking about FOX Animation Domination cartoons as a general subject. Who is watching this enough for it to be on its fifth season now?

>>149239435 (OP)
I mean, it lost it's edge after season one, which I feel was not necessary, plenty of fox's lineup has "adult" comedy and it's never stopped kids from watching it, if anything it's a draw for that audience. Another marked point of decline for me was when they started shoving an anthology episode into every season, they're just so pointless and lazily written.

>>149241124
>>149244111
>>149244197
>>149244458
Only retard shotafags like this ship.

>>149244520
I pirate every episode, the show is very "comfy", really makes me wish I had a loving functional family in a close-knit community.

Reminder that Louise belongs to Rudy.

>>149244546
No? The appeal's the age gap + Logan being a jerk to Louise, to the point where it's hot.

>>149239435 (OP)
Season 4
Like half the episodes are still great, but the other half aren’t worth watching. Then season 5 has a few good episodes, but 90% are just bad.
It never hit zombie Simpsons levels of shittiness, but it’s been a shell of its former self for a very long time.

>>149241124
sauce?

>>149244540
>Another marked point of decline for me was when they started shoving an anthology episode into every season, they're just so pointless and lazily written.
This 100%, all of these are some of my least favorite episodes of every season I've seen. Every time I realized it was one of those, I considered just skipping it but they made for a decent sleeping aid

>>149244666

>>149244602
Yes? Shitafags are known to have dogshit taste, and will cling on to any character, just because it has a kid dick. Logan is a huge pussy, and if you had watched the show, you'd know this. No one but retard shotafags like Logan.

>>149244949
Spoken like a true r00x0.

>>149239435 (OP)
Season 5, episode 1

>>149239435 (OP)
When they made Teddy a main character, as in someone who shows up in every episode, no matter how little of a role he has to play. This was also around the time too many of the episode plots became
>A-plot is the kids doing something stupid at school or otherwise outside of the restaurant
>B-plot is Bob, Linda, Teddy and maybe another secondary character doing something stupid at the restaurant, takes up maybe 4-5 minutes of the episode total
No matter how hard I think, this is where the show's overall humor and atmosphere went downhill for me. I can't pinpoint the exact moment but I think it was around season 5 or 6

Ahem this is straight shota. The chaddest of the shotacons.

Isn't Logan a bit old to be shota, he's closer to Katara or Sokka's age

>>149244602
Reminder Louise started things.

>>149245456
>Louise does it with her bully Logan
Good dynamic.

>Louise wants to get it on with Logan and he doesnt want to
S-Tier!

>>149244666
>>149244902
You helped him anon. Previous posts are signed and he's one of the most well known drawfags and you helped the not lurking newfag. Shame.

>>149239435 (OP)
It started going downhill pretty quickly. I remember Hugo played the role as a major antagonist in earlier seasons. But then he was used less and less. His last appearance was in season 11 in Romancing the Beef on February 21, 2021.

Earlier seasons were more about the challenges of running a restaurant. You can really only write stuff about the restaurant for so long, all there is is a small dining room, a kitchen, basement, and storage. It's really hard to make new stories in such a confined space.

And I'm getting pretty tired of these episodes where the kids at Wagstaff get the A plot while Bob and Linda just dick around at the restaurant. The series may as well be renamed to Wagstaff School at this point. None of the other students or staff at the school is appealing.

And STOP making all these spoof episodes. There are SO MANY spoof episodes in Bob's Burgers and Great North. They aren't good. Stop making so many of them.

>>149245752
Wait, Hugo really hasn't been used since the Movie? Holy shit..

I wouldn't say it's downhill but the edge the first few seasons had was dull as a butter knife by the time of the movie.

>>149245840
At least he was IN the fucking movie

>>149245456
>>149245567
>Louise and Logan have mellowed out after the melon incidentWatching a little girl cry her eyes out changes you man.
>They aren't friend-friends (and Louise would never be close with Cynthia) but he's a substitute babysitter if Tina has a date.
>Until Louise finds Tina's S P I C Y friendfiction and thinks that how friends should act, and hey, she should be better friends with the guy whose parents can afford to "lose" some stuff.

>>149246296
There is a hot idea somewhere in that terrible text.

>>149246384
Sexually aggressive loli with public acts of affection against a not entirely opposed and morally confused teen boy? Yes. It is.

>>149246433
Based on the spicy IRL based fiction of her sister not to forget.

>>149245752
>Earlier seasons were more about the challenges of running a restaurant.
Nah, there was a mix of restaurant stuff and other plots. Like Linda's Air bnb (which is season 1) or the kids acting out the Goonies or them being trapped on a cruise ship. That's the stuff that made it interesting, actual CONFLICT.

>>149246453
Tina actually fucking Jimmy Jr. is so implausible it could only take place in fanfiction.
>Okay. Now I need to put whipped cream on your "man-nipples" and lick it off. We don't have the good cream but warm butter is the same thing, right?
>...
>"Not hearing a no."
>"N-"
>"TOO LATE! HAHAH- Oh that's too much butter. Got a sawback? My family really needed that butter for butter-related things tomorrow."

>>149246460
Bob actually willing to fight someone and being definite instead if
>"Maybe, I think, sure if, I duno, maybe."

They left the pot stagnant for so long it rotted and now all the edges are sanded down.

>>149244602
1. The chemistry between these two is fun.
2. It makes Logan look pathetic to have a little girl as his nemesis, thats funny.
3. Teenager makes for a good nemesis for Louise. Louise is abnormal, the children around her age are supposed to be small weak dumb kids. An adult would be too much and won't care whatever scheme Louise is pulling. Teenager is old enough to be a threat, and young enough to get pulled into childish disputes.
4. The age gap means that within the capsulated time the show takes place in, nothing romantic is going to happen between them. Louise shouldn't be romantically involved with anyone. Every single character shouldn't be dating, especially the kids.

>>149239435 (OP)
When it stopped being funny and started getting really preachy and trying to go for feels. Those episodes feel like a slog to get through.

>>149246296
>He's a substitute babysitter if Tina has a date
>Which leads to late night fun with the babysitter
>Mostly plotted by Louise
>Logan tries to rebuke advances
>But Louise likes a challenge
>Especially when she pulls Logan into a bedroom closet
>It's just a game she tells him

>>149244489
she probably would've written a dozen books about all the things she'd want to do by the time she gets around to it

>>149244602
true

>>149244564
Louise demands multiple boyfriends, he's gonna have to be ready to bottom for Logan from time to time. She's the one in charge here.

someone post the previous Louigan greens from the old threads. i know someone's got some of them here.

>>149247264
Damn, grown Louise has a kickass rack.

Did anyone save (twitter) charmingbeep's Louise art? I'm begging... it's from 2 years ago 2023ish

>>149247660
It's easy to google the artist but did he only draw 2 Louise pics? If there's more I just found two

UOH!!!!

>>149239435 (OP)
Show is suicide hotline-levels of depression core. I can’t even watch a man show after show chase a dream only to be ruined selfishly by his own family. The happiest they ever showed him was as a child dreaming of running his own burger shop

>>149239435 (OP)
when every episode became about punishing louise

>>149245752
>You can really only write stuff about the restaurant for so long, all there is is a small dining room, a kitchen, basement, and storage. It's really hard to make new stories in such a confined space.
Cheers had no problem with it.

>>149239472
The show suddenly turns into therapy for the viewer using the characters as avatars for whatever stereotype they assume you are. It's constantly about how bad louise is and how she needs to be better. There's an episode with a talking self help tape and all of it's advice is unironic. jimmy pesto disappears because his voice actor voted for trump.

>>149243602
humiliation ritual

>>149247108
At the time at least, tina had that mystical intimidating little girl gimmick that made adults cower to her based on her weird behavior. It was funny whenever someone stood up to her and she had no follow up(or when she does have a follow). Logan was special because he was one of the people immune to louise's intimidation

>>149248297
>>149244564
>>149248388
Pairing Louise with Rudy is punishing her

When they stopped having sexy zombies.

>>149247924
>only to be ruined selfishly by his own family
Bob is capable of getting in his own way. Even if his family weren't stopping him, he'd stop himself for some reason or another.

>>149248832
Rudy could be the straight-man that evens her out, she needs an even-handed every-man companion. On one hand he'd rarely tell her "no," so they would still have a bunch of whacky adventures but he'd still be a voice of reason to pull her back from the brink of going too off the rails. Honestly Rudy x Louise as adults would be very similar to Bob x Linda.

>>149249214
But thats not entertaining. Rudy himself doesn't even do it, Louise has a rule that Rudy = fun stops.

>>149249010
i bet the sex is good

>>149245752
>You can really only write stuff about the restaurant for so long, all there is is a small dining room, a kitchen, basement, and storage. It's really hard to make new stories in such a confined space.
If you ask me, it's not just about the restaurant setting. Bob's Burgers is (barring another writers' strike) going to air its 300th episode next year. There are shows that maintain somewhat consistent quality while lasting this long, I don't believe BB to be one of them, but regardless - no episodic sitcom that never makes any major changes in its premise/setting needs to go on for this long.

It's not just the fact that you can only write so many plots with a restaurant setting, it's also the fact that you can only write so many (decent) plots with the same characters in the same world during the same time of their lives, period. The characters sort of change but never for the better (see >>149243812), the only major change the world went through is that there's now a repaired sinkhole in front of the restaurant, and time will never progress because it's one of those shows. There have been like 12 Christmases and Halloweens, but Louise is still 9.

I'm not asking for the show to fully embrace real time and make her 23 years old. But just a 3-4 year timeskip would have worked extremely well, that way it'd actually make SENSE for her to be all depressed and angsty now, Tina could be pursuing more serious relationships and move on from a decade-and-a-half of terrible will-they-won't-they with Jimmy Jr, Gene could become an actual character, etc.
You can only do so much with the exact same setting featuring the exact same characters at the exact same age doing the exact same gags over and over and over again. At some point you've just written/seen it all.

>>149249323
Likely how Bob was able to steal Linda from Hugo besides the mustache

>>149249490
imagine the 2nd round of pounding on those buns

>>149244546

>>149244564
>Reminder that Rudy belongs to Louise
fify

>>149249214
You faggots need new material
I'm sorry you are invested in some asthmatic little bitch for your shippingshit

But you keep repeating that being with Rudy mirrors Bob and Linda. Keep repeating it I'm sure it'll work out the nth time you say it

Not that Rudy doesn't generally suck ass or anything

>>149240204
You're lucky you were never subjected to Doug, as much as I shit on BB at least it used to be funny frequently enough, as apposed to Doug which was never funny.

>>149249887
NTA, but I think someone is a little upset, right now.

>>149249468
I feel like The Great North even does a better job at world building and character progression than Bob's Burgers does. The fictional city that Bob's Burgers is set in is called Seymour's Bay. Although I had to look that up because I don't even remember it mentioned during the show. I don't remember Bob and Linda having any close friends other than Teddy and Aunt Gale. Bob doesn't do things like go to bars or go to church.

Lone Moose does do a better job at world building. We get to see places like the mall, bars, harbor, junkyard, and restaurants. There are romances that develop, and a big part of the plot is Beef trying to find a new wife. Aunt Dirt was even introduced as a new character who now lives with the Tobins.

I still would rather watch Bob's Burger than Great North. Both shows I really only watch as background noise. I just like the world building and character progression more in Great North.

>>149249887
>I'm sorry you are invested in
I'm not, I've never really participated in the community around the show, I'm just going off of evidence I've seen in the show itself.
>But you keep repeating that being with Rudy mirrors Bob and Linda
I just made that up on the spot as I typed that post. Other people say that too? Cool, it means that they have the ability to observe reality and draw conclusions from it too.

Can you form a point that doesn't use ad hominems?

>>149250724
For me, the Great North is so milquetoast it is now comfy enjoyable for me. It isn't great, as you said, but it is a safe background noise while I'm eating.

Bob's Burgers has leaned so much towards annoying supporting characters, I can barely watch the show now. Even the Belchers I barely stand nowadays, and I must say... I do enjoy the overall healthy relationship the Tobins have.

I stopped watching midway through season 11. I just got sick of having to skip through shitty songs every episode

>>149239435 (OP)
When they started shilling COVID lockdowns.

>>149240208
This is a very true comparison. I'll watch new episodes on Animation Domination and it just feels watchable, but the jokes rarely hit.

>>149251090
>>149250724
I only started catching it recently and I'll miss it as it seems like it might have wrapped up. Like you said the setting is really comfy.

>>149251655
The songs really did get excessive

>>149239435 (OP)
Episode 1

>>149252345
>The only show in fox animated lineup not to get renewed is the one I enjoy the most
Fuck

>>149250724
Oh yeah definitely. In 1 season of The Great North, you learn more about Lone Moose and its citizens and weird folklore/traditions than you ever do about Seymour's Bay in 10+ years. Ham actually starts dating someone, Wolf and Honeybee actually get married, Beef actually gets in and out of relationships, etc.
Say what you will about how much of a snoozefest the show is (albeit a comfy one) but at least it has the balls to actually change something about the status quo every now and then. Bob's Burgers couldn't even commit to the Belchers getting a new fucking couch.

around the time season 3 or 4 aired the show became more sanitized because execs found out that a lot of youngsters watch bobs burgers. It is still a very charming show and I binge watch some seasons every now and then. Some characters get on my nerves like gene and the aunt.

I also dislike lot of the what if episodes.

>>149243602
O_O O_O O_O

>>149252345
>>149253820
I believe the sixth season was greenlit, but don't take my word for it.

>>149239435 (OP)
Funny enough the last couple episodes have been better, last episode even introduced a half-aunt for Linda.

>>149245456
I guess Logan is technically jailbait then?
That's funny, jailbait going jailbait and I don't know whom I'm talking about.

>>149249214
>she needs an even-handed every-man companion
Which should've been Jessica from the sleepover episode because Rudy is not an even-handed every-man character but a delicate and eccentric little boy who likes Marcel Marceau.

>>149254434
Really Rudy registers more as a friend for Gene.

>>149254444
Gene does have that one "best friend" but I honestly couldn't tell you his name or anything about him, he's more boring than Rudy

>>149241124
>>149245456
>>149254354
imo the hottest Logan has ever been was when they focused on him being a physical threat to Gene and louise. seeing that dumb teen boy aggression immediately made me think that Logan has a fat hog.

>>149254616
Most interesting thing about him was that he was voiced by Thomas Middleditch who they had to drop when he got outed as a sex pest for goth club girls.

>>149254623
>I wanted to work out some of this hostility I'm feeling all the time, which Dr. Swanson says is totally normal, but I was like, how am I gonna do that?
>hmmm...have you tried jacking off in front of other people?

>>149254616
and Courtney Wheeler! goddamn I love how cute Courtney got over time.

>>149246678
so Bob's Burgers does have the capability of putting girls into bikinis meaning Jocelyn theoretically can show up in a bikini.

>>149244111
The Trips of Truth and the Dubs of Doubtless

Around the end of S3, I think.

>>149239435 (OP)
>>149255001
season 11 for me

>>149239435 (OP)
It's still good, but there are too many episodes about the kids, and Bob isn't angry enough; he is just dead on the inside.

>>149249214
>Rudy could be the straight-man that evens her out
Nobody wants that.

>>149255073
Yeah I want people who makes Louise worse.

>>149244489
Unironically a hot teen.

RudyxLouise is like tossing water on bonfire and going
>Oh wow! That just doused the fire. I guess water goes really well with fire.

>>149249214
>Rudy could be the straight-man that evens her out
Even her out from what? What does Louise even do or say nowadays that makes her so "dangerous"?

>>149255132
And Rudy has also shown zero romantic interest in Louise despite them being each other's first kiss.

>>149255132
>>149255144
What's the opposite of a maniac pixie dream girlfriend? Placid attainable gnome boyfriend?

>>149254623
>>149254652
sexually suggestive bullying not just for louise but anyone with Logan being an aggressively equal opportunity sex offender.
I want him to insult Jimmy Jr's fat ass so bad.

>it all started on one hot summer day at Wetty, Set, Go!
>a place that usually makes Louise happy and relaxed but not today
>because of THEM
>because of THEM, she can't wear her old swimsuit anymore
>because of THEM, Linda and Tina took her clothes shopping yesterday
>because of THEM, She's been forced to buy a stupid fucking girly bikini
>even if it's a cute one with kuchi kopi print she hates it for how exposed she feels
>looking in the dressing room mirror Louise somehow felt less covered then if she was actually naked
>she hated being a girl, like where's the upside here?
>and now because of THEM she's wearing a dark and heavy hoodie at a water park on a hot summer's day with the sun beating down on her unable to go down any slides or float in the lazy river
>she felt gross and sweaty and sad
>she really has become Tina 2.0
>this day just can't get any worse
>Well look what we have here, a bundled up baby belcher!
>...fuck her life

>>149239435 (OP)
When they changed the premise being a family of cannibals

>>149255467
No that was a good thing, the cannibal thing had zero legs and was an eyesore.

>>149255156
Well yeah Rudy still thinks he has a chance with Chole Barbash. He clearly has a thing for hair and 80 percent of Louise's is covered 99 percent of the time.

>>149255600
Were not for Chloe Barbash Rudy would be gay.

bob in fort

Rudy faggots once again itt proving their contrarianism and shit taste

Imagine WANTING Louise to be neutered

>>149255690
Need Tina with a twerking animation.

>>149255722

>>149255690
A sign of the end times.

>>149255834
Dayum gurl got that SWIRL done.

>>149255464
>up till now Louise didn't realize how much she's been dreading this eventuality
>Logan has always been a pain in her ass but at least when she was 9 the playing field was level
>she had the advantage of being a cute smart little girl and not a dumb gross teenager
>but now?
>go away Logan, I'm having a horrible day already and a crap sundae like you will probably make me barf into the kiddie pool
>which wasn't that much of an exaggeration, the heat has been getting to her in this hoodie and Louise has been fighting back nausea all day
>and seeing a wet glistening Logan who's clearly been enjoying himself is not helping her at all

>>149255834
this is the tina we need to see more. an not the 'uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" tina that is lame and does nothing and takes no risk and regrets everything at all time

>>149255850
Ad was pretty good though, I gotta admit. Even if slopnite is still the same shitty FOMO cancer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7bJwpvOhKo

>>149255834
Jimmy Jr. is unbelievably homosexual for not doing everything in his power to get with her 24/7

>>149256103
Jimmy Jr is so gay that the only time he shows interest in Tina is when he knows there's another dick involved.

>>149256103
Tina and Zeke are endgame

>>149256324
These characters used to be so much fun.

>>149255464
>>149255884
Louise having to deal with her boobies coming in is what the movie should've been about.

>>149256324
I have a headcanon that Jocelyn and Tina are actually cousins but both are too ditzy to remember that.

>>149239435 (OP)
either seasons 5 or 6

>>149248327
Jimmy Pesto disappeared 'cuz he was at the capital attack, specifically. I don't know why you have to be so reductive.

>>149256400
We never got her last name so it could easily be Jocelyn Volpintesta.

>>149256381
>If Bart Simpson can have a streaking scene in the S movie, then so should Louise in the BB movie. And Tina. But not Linda because that would be pornographic. :(

>>149256468

>>149256381
I'm in agreement. They should come in fast, though. She wakes up one morning to find she's grown a pair of udders bigger than her head.

>>149256506
Both her and her titties do the dead man's drop at the end to show how confidant she's about them.

>>149256506
>She wakes up one morning to find she's grown a pair of udders bigger than her head.
She has the genetics for it to be a possibility

>>149256587
>Louise enjoying that Backrub Millie gave her.
YES LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
That physical compatibility between them wearing Louise down is practically canon now my fellow Millie maniacs.

>>149256819
Lil' Linda looks lot like Louise so booba canon.

>>149256819
>>149257006
>looks at Tina
I think the reason they avoid aging Louise up even by a year is they would genuinely feel compelled to start giving her boobs.
Do it writers of Bob's Burgers, give in to the horny side, let it flow through you.

>>149257006
HNNNGG Linda's glasses are her bunny ears HNNNNNNGGG GOD SO CUTE

>>149257120
No one talks about Tina's boobs more then Louise. She's got boobs on the brain.

>>149257412
She finds herself staring more times than she can count...

why is it impossible to discuss this show without a bunch of pedophiles coming over and shitting up everything?

>>149255446
all these girls who Logan has canonically sexually harassed.

>>149257462
See>>149256653 this being in the first episode.

>>149239435 (OP)
there's not really a through line but i think the issue is the show just went through seasonal rot because they aimed more for consistency than experimentation

>>149257710
Why did Teddy succeed while Mort fell to the wayside?

>>149257728
he's a handyman so he naturally has more ways to throw him into the plot
he's just a lot more dopey and pathetic so thats always funnier

mort is kind of a regular guy in comparison

>>149257462
wheredoyouthinkyouare.jpg

>>149257775
Yeah Mort the mortician was an cute wink and nod to the old premise of cannibal bob's burgers but I actually don't think the city bylaws is gonna let a burger place be right next to a morgue/crematorium.

>>149254040
It's unlikely at this point, sadly. American Dad is returning to FOX, and Krapopolis, Family Guy, Simpsons, Bob's Burgers, Grimsburg, and Universal Basic Guys were all picked up for another season months ago. The Great North just has 1 episode left in the season and still nothing.

>>149257412
Think they've scissored yet?

>>149257462

>>149239435 (OP)
post-wonder-wharf. They really peaked with that one.

>>149258049
Not to Louise's knowledge.

>>149255884
>well four ears I was enjoying a wet hot american summer with a lady friend
>but then I saw a dumb bunny rabbit who didn't get the memo to shed her winter coat
>what's the matter, feeling self-conscious because your dad's burgers made you fat?
>Louise felt herselt heat up some more, Logan's comment hitting a little too close to the truth
>you better watch your mouth logan or I'm gonna smother you with this hoodie
>doubt it, you're still way too small to do any real damage
>but really four ears, didn't your parents ever warn you about the dangers of a heat stroke?
>Louise hates how the worst person she knows just made a good point
>OH WOW thanks for the advice logan! I would've never in a million years figure out that it's MY FUCKING HOODIE that's making me HOT
>yeah I know, it's a good thing that I came by to tell you
>louise silenty screams
>but seriously take off the hoodie because you look like you're gonna pass out
>louise did feel woozy but still
>NO! YOU'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE HOODIE LOGAN JUST LIKE I HAVE TO!

>>149255121
>>149256819
Louise is gonna have to accpet the fate of being a baddie because it looks unavoidable.

Louise will be like Linda. She's going to be some meek normal guy's crazy wife who's very passionate about both him and weird shit.

Tina will be like Gayle, except more successful.

>>149258383
She's also going to share her boyfriend with Tina?

>>149258622
Nah, Tina doesn't need her Sloppy seconds, she's like the second prettiest girl in her class.

>>149258164
>OK FINE but don't come crying to me when you become know as the girl who had to get airlifted out of Wetty, Set, Go!
>why would I cry over something that would be amazing Logan?! I'll be immortalized in local waterpark history!
>at this Logan snap his mouth shut and looks off from the shaded rest/picnic area to the borderfringe concession stands
>he gets up and walks towards one to purchase two large water bottles and a single ice cream cone
>louise glares at him the entire trek to and back but softens it slightly when she see him open one of the bottle and hand it to her
>here
>...is this part of growing up? Experiencing these small acts of kindness that define the human experience?
>helping us remember that we're all just stranger is this big fishbow called li-
>logan upends the entire ice cold water bottle onto her, soaking her entire hoodie
>that will cool you off so feel free to thank me
>tense as a spring and feeling a rage that she hasn't felt since she was 9 Louise maintains direct eye contact with Logan as he takes a long lick of the ice cream cone
>Louise is grateful for this, the thought of revenge against this blonde lanky teen has burned away the thoughts of self-pity
>the how of it all is making her woozy but in a good way
>Loggy? Babe, is you tummy feeling better?
>and midlick Louise saw the fear in Logan's eyes

>>149258383
disagree on many counts as Linda likes Bob for his passion and ambition, the fact that he wanted to do his burger restaurant the way he wanted to do it, while Gayle is alone not because of low self-esteem and depression but because she's actually arrogant to the point of delusion and maniac.

>>149258686
I think it's both. She's obviously unwell, but yeah, what we see is that Linda and her parents always coddled her. Tina is like her in temperament but not coddled.

>>149258622
>it's a Tina episode where she gets a crush on Logan.

>>149258757
Actually Tina dating Logan would be really funny.

>>149258747
I think it's that Tina is more like Linda than we realize but that Linda and Gayle are a lot more alike than they realize.

Obligatory young Linda and Gayle post.

>>149258747
>She's obviously unwell
When even Mr Frond doesn't stick around, you know those new meds aren't working.

>>149258784
also I think it's more like Tina & Gene = Linda & Gayle while Louise is a good mix of the best of the belcher gene(good) and the best of the genarro gene(bad).

>>149239435 (OP)
The Pilot

>>149239435 (OP)

Lost a bit of its edgier humour (remember when we found out Linda had lopsided boobs with brown nipples?) became too in love with its kids, stopped having them punished when they inevitably went too far and instead started celebrating them. Gene is a selfish ass who ruins everything (fuck that play episode hard) Tina gets away with way too much overt sexual harassment (instead of just being a bit horny in weird ways as in the earlier seasons) and it's treated as just a funny quirk.

>>149258250
I wouldn't say it's foreshadowing since I doubt most of the season 3 writers are still on the show but the mermaid stuff is a nice callback.

>>149258770
as funny as imaging Louise's reactions would be, I'd be more interested in Cynthia and Linda's reaction towards it and how they would be on the same page for different reasons.
>they'd both be against it.
>Lin and Cyn would be against fearing Tina's libido will finally meet someone who knows what to do with it.

>>149258757
>>149258770
And Louise gets REALLY steamed about it, but tries not to let it show.

>>149258250
this episode was pretty great. everyone had good shit going

>>149257462
that is basically any show on this board, or site for that matter.

Linda tittyfuck

>>149259181
That's not how you spell Belcher

>>149259037
>Bob has a good time with no strings attached to it.
:)

>>149259181

Currently catching up on the latest season. While Bob's Burgers isn't the funniest show on the air now, I still think the writers come up with some truly engaging stories a lot of the time, even when it revolves around the Wagstaff cast. They're good at mystery/espionage stories. The movie made me realize that.

Chloe Barbash and Logan Bush team up and bond over their shared disdain for Belchers.

>>149256864

>>149247264
>Logan fucks Louise doggystyle
>"Okay, Rudy! Now its your turn!"
>Rudy sticks his ass in the air

>>149259367
I wish we could see what intial incident made such an impression on Millie.

>>149258648
>walking into the scene is a tall leggy brunnette who sounds suspiciously like Brooke Dillman
>a leggy brunette Brooke Dillman soundalike who quite frankly had small boobs
>she's eyeing the whole situation with the kind of scrutiny it deserves
>for all intents and purposes it looks like a much older teen boy is bullying a much younger girl and that never looks good
>S-Sidney ugh yeah I'm feeling my stomach
>who is this kid you're talking to
>well it's this is my old boss's daughter and I was just c-chattin' with her about old time
>ok but why did you spill that whole water bottle on her?
>well that wa-
>and Louise had a thought and acted on it
>oh thank you Logan you've saved my life!!
>you see cynthia
>sidney
>right so Logan, who I'm sure had first aid training in this kind of thing, actually noticed how close to heat exhaustsation I was and quickly acted to cool me off in the quickest way possible
>babe, is this true?
>oh yeah every word and Louise can see the handsome idiot actually thinks she's helping him out here
>HA!
>wait handsome?
>clearing her throat to make sure both Cindy and Logan are looking at her and especially making sure to maintain direct eye contact with him, Louise reaches down and pull off her hoodie
>and with heavy drop, She releases THEM to logan's widening eyes that can't look away as she rearranges her very cute kuchi kopi top
>so thanks Logan
>...uhm you're
>Louise puts her hand behind her back anf stretches
>...welcome
>ok yeah that's nice let's go babe say bye to your clearly underage boss's daughter
>Logan seem reluctant to leave and Louise noticed it
>so this is the upside of being a girl

>>149239435 (OP)
instead of writing jokes, they'll have a character sing to kill time. Music can be funny, but they rely on singing/vamping too much to move the plot ahead. Season 1 felt like a real family, new seasons are an off broadway production featuring Louise. The show sucks ass.

>>149259355
I cannot not stare at Tina's boobs...

>>149259462
>well hey Logan as long as you and sidney are here we might as well get that ice cream cone you promised me if I survived.
>you remember that right logan? You promised a two scooped ice cream cone.
>Double-and with that she grabs his hand and pull his arm to her chest
>squish
>dipped and Logan is already taking her to the ice cream stand
>yeah babe can you buy me an ice cream cone too
>I mean if he the money for it after buying mine amirite sally? Nah I'm just kiidding but also not really
>oh this is fun

>>149239435 (OP)
I marathoned the entire series not long ago and i can safely say it is around the time they started to hamfist atleast 1 musical scene per episode or every 2 episodes, they still got some decent or great episodes from time on time but i really dislike the musical direction they took.

>>149259358
To be fair to Chloe friggin' Barbash, it's really just Louise she's got beef with though I'm sure she wouldn't lift a finger to help Gene or Tina if they get caught up with Logan's bullying.

>>149245456
https://vocaroo.com/1sjWHDyOw5iv

>>149258770
>>149259027
>the pet names
>the PDA
>Logan acting sauve
>Tina acting giddy
lol get cucked Louise.

>>149259462
>>149259546
How I kinda picture it.

>>149259873
they need to be hornier, the both of them

>>149241154
I find KotH funny, at its best.

My problem with Bob’s Burgers is the characters talk in such an arch, stylized, meme-ish way that I can’t believe a human being would talk like that. Hank or Peggy or Dale, I can believe they’re exaggerations of what real people say, but BB seems to take place in a weird universe where people are saying things that sound sarcastic but in a sincere tone.

>>149259393
>Logan helping Rudy out with his asthma while reminiscing about Chloe and Louise and even Rudy's cousin Mandy to him.

>>149258757
>>149258770
>>149259919
I think it's neat. If you ever watched Logan's first episode you can see right before he says the iconic four-ears line that he's initially addressing Tina with a classic four-eyes so I always feel there's a what-if in there.

>>149261106

>>149262044
Tina is horny for every boy she's met. With the exception of Zeke. There's a couple exceptions but not a lot.

Why can't she go for the bully?

>>149256427
>capital attack
Yes, being let in and walking within the velvet ropes is such an attack, histrionic buffoon. He was removed for no reason.

>>149244546
>shota
Hwæt? Don't you mean lolifags? Or did 16/18 year olds get bumped down to shota?

>>149242052
>>149242174
Remember the episode where the turtle camp magazine cunt literally starts to destroy his counter and Bob caves and gives into the scam? Worst moment yet. Also wtf Linda that episode? Isn't she a badass who threw rocks at cars as a kid? She's tough. Why didn't she get all up in her face?

>>149253881
Oh wow. That all sounds so much more substantial than anything Bob's has done. I almost feel like I should maybe be watching Great North instead. Not changing up the status quo and playing it insanely safe is the big problem. Also too much fart and poop jokes.

when they thought they werent a simpsons clone

>>149249989
Yeah I still cringe at that episode where Doug has anxiety of over replacing a fucking pair of sneakers. Even as a kid most people knew he lame.

>>149259367
>>149264731
Just stop

>>149263645
>Why can't she go for the bully?
But he's mean!!!

>>149264421
Probably the worst similarity it has to Bob's Burgers is that it also does terrible anthology episodes once or twice every season

>>149239435 (OP)
January 9, 2011

>>149264979
We can't stop, not untill Louise just finally gives in and becomes Millie's girlfriend.

>>149263645
>>149265266
Reasons why the writers would never even imply Tina having a crush on Logan.
>it breaks away from the status quo
>it'd be too risque
>they can't find the humor in it
Reason why the writer should give Tina a crush on Logan.
>it breaks the status quo
>it's risque
>it's hilariously bold

>>149265497
The set for the basic Tina is a horny virigin relies on the concept that she's just on a whole different horny than the boys her age, basically being horny at a 10th grade level while the boys in her class can barely be horny at a 6th grade level and that's shit old and busted.
But a 16 year old boy? He would be more Tina's equal in being horny and now we have ineffectively inversed the joke where now instead of worrying about Tina trying to mount things there are trying to stop soneone mounting Tina.

>>149265583
>basically being horny at a 10th grade level while the boys in her class can barely be horny at a 6th grade level and that's shit old and busted.
they need to make Tina horny at a college freshman level then

>>149266130
>I don't particularly care for Zeke.
FOOKIN COME @ ME ZEKEBROS!!!

>>149266186
>I especially think his born on the other side of the tracks character is out of place
FITE ME!

>>149266186
Tina needs that early season horny back mixed with the mid-season confidence and late season friend group with Susmita and bad girl Chelsea to let Tina be slutty and just slutty but real slutty.

>>149266905
Because the very concept of Tina is what if we took how horny teenage boys usually our shown in media and transcribe that to a teenage girl which struck gold because it turns out teenage girls usually are as horny as teenage boys so Tina is actually pretty relatable female character.

>>149266189
The Mad Pooper will ride again.

>>149266962
But there's a level we need to unlock to really elevate Tina as a horny virigin looking for some dick joke is for Tina to fully realize that guys have dicks.
You need a joke where it's illustrate that Tina didn't fully comprehend what sex was but now she does and the horny has been fully unchained.

>>149254434
Jessica is shit. She really legitimately is dull as two books or whatever the line is. She's just like a nothing background character with no real allure

>>149267058
>my family moves around a lot.
Listen...there's no good reason to shit around school like that.

I won’t win anyway. Animals don’t really like me.
>Do you think it’s cause they see into your soul and they’re like, nah?
>Is it cause they’re threatened by all your body hair?
>Is it cause when it rains you get that wet dad smell?
>Mm. Yeah, maybe.
And moments like this happen every episode. I guess it’s cause Bob is the adult and the kids are kids so they can just get away with saying whatever and he can’t retort back? At least I think that’s what the writers think. But I dunno man, Bob used to call his family horrible in the early years. And it’s fine cause they are horrible and you know they all love each other so whatever. I really wish Bob would take a shot back or at least tell them to shut up or something? It needs to go both ways.

>>149241870
post both

>>149264979

>>149267102
Jessica isn't shit, the writers are just shit at using her.
here's the pros of Jessica:
>she's a girl and Louise needs more socialization with girls
>she has a similar skill and mindset as louise but different temperament setting up push and sway dynamic
>she opens up more little girl friendships for Louise

>>149257728
I don't know, but Mort is based. I want more Mort
More Mort

>>149267261
just look at the sea monster episode for why the show needs jessica.
>sets up an adventure that Louise would like but one that couldn't work with Gene or Louise.
>introduced another character for Louise to interact with
>sets up a new dimension of Louise

pic is the only joke in the show that made me chuckle. actually felt like an [AS] show for a second. after that it's just laundry BGM.

>>149267081
>What's a penis?
>You mean boys have horse dicks?
>Tiny horse dicks?
>And what do girls do with them? The boy dicks, not the horse dicks. But maybe...

>>149262848
https://vocaroo.com/1nU3LdtxYOh4

>>149267461
>Gene has a penis!
>yep and she's my friend to the end!
>what's it like having a penis Gene?
>well lately it's been getting distractive but in a good way, like me in Mom's heels.
>so you were the one who been stealing my shoes? huh, I figured it was just Gayle.
>so is it too late for me to try and tell you kids about the birds and the bees?
>birds and the bee? dad we're talking about Penises try to keep up.

>>149257412
>>149264731
>>149265363
every bob's burger fanfiction I've read, including a louigan one, makes sure to mention how an aged up Millie will be a sexy body Louise can't help but be attracted to.

louise + logan is a stupid ship. it is basically a crack ship

>>149268034
>whoa buddy he's roughly 15-17 and I'm perpetually 9, there's some line this show just can't cross.

>>149267081
>Minor league baseball players not wanting to commit statutory rape.
Completely unrealistic, why do you think they're called the MINOR league?

>>149268034
It just wouldn't work if they don't hate each other. Logan/Tina is a better ship because it would force them to interact and Louise would get mad.

Or Logan/Chloe because it would be a fun villain team up even if they never actually interacted.

>>149267081
>>149267461
I always wondered, does Tina actually know how to jerk off at this point? Like, not even for the sake of knowing what guys do but for the sake of herself. She seems to put all her horny energy into writing, when she could also be doing other things with her hands as well.

>>149268597
She probably does whenever she's alone. Which sadly isn't often.

>>149268597
>You mean meeting Jill? I don't like meeting Jill. I'm horrible at it.
>Soooo what do you do when you need to meet Jill without actually meeting her?
>I think really hard about naked boy butts and I'm good for the next few days.

>>149266189
Are there actually Zekebros? He’s so annoying.

>>149266186
>>149266905
Yeah why isn’t Tina a horny little pervert anymore? I know there was a recent episode last season or something with a dance but even then it was just upper back/close to the butt she was excited for? Still so tame compared to how she was.

>>149267944
>makes sure to mention how an aged up Millie will be a sexy body Louise can't help but be attracted to.
as it should, Louise needs to be bi to keep her aligned with Bob.
>including a louigan one
does it end with Louise, Logan, and Millie having a threeway?

>>149268620
plus the walls in the house aren't that thick, so I can imagine that she'd probably have to be really restrained and couldn't "go off" like she probably wants to

>>149268620
>>149268668
she probably has a special horse themed or horse shaped pillow (or stuffed animal) she probably makes use of

>>149268587
>Or Logan/Chloe because it would be a fun villain team up even if they never actually interacted.
I wish Louise could stick with an extracurricular like go-kart racing or soccer because I can easily see her having to face off Chloe in something and having to dal with Logan as a judge or referee. maybe even something like a child beauty pageant?

>>149268722
Tina needs to sit on a running washing machine or something

>>149268887
>riding lessons with Jericho

>>149268905
>Wow, Tina. You turned into a real clean freak lately. Just remember we're not made of money. More water, less powder.
>I think Tina may be going through second puberty.
>Why?
>She's acting just like you.
>Wha-?
>Remember. You told me you learned to meet Jill by sitting on the washing machine. You told all your friends and then CPS got involved. Probably don't need to tell her to call her friends over. Actually we better. Just in case.

>>149239435 (OP)
When Marshmallow stopped being funny. It's a giant black man in revealing drag who may or may not be a crack whore. That's funny.

Basically, like any other animated sitcom, it goes downhill and stays that way when the women take over. The only show that got better as women entered the writing room was Robot Chicken. Yeah, we got a lot more A Handmaid's Tale sketches but we also got jokes that weren't specifically for comic shop owners who truly loved the mid-80s. That and the women they got are fucking mean so it isn't therapy humor, it's fuck you humor.

>>149267359
I love that this scene was clearly improvised. I think Eugene Mirman has forgotten who he is. He isn't some voice actor with a weird face who can't get cast because he's too tall, he's the funniest fucking person alive. (Not wittiest, that's Paul F. Thompkins.) So much of season one is Eugene Mirman making Jon Benjamin laugh and it's the best fucking season.

>>149268845
>does it end with Louise, Logan, and Millie having a threeway?
No but I enjoy this passage from it.
>It’s these smoking heels!” Millie answers unsuspiciously. “They make my legs and ass look great! Look! Would you mind taking these?
>She hands the two hot dogs in her hand to Logan and bends over, the sundress molded tightly across her skin. Then she stretches a leg back and flexes it. “Don’t I look great?”

>>149269003
I think Marshmallow was always meant to be transwoman and not a crossdresser the joke wasn't that she was transwoman but that she was a transwoman dressed obviously up as selling her body for sex without reacting to the fact she was dressed up in a monokini showing off her body.

>>149269107
Funny enough I think my biggest problem with the new casting choice of Marshmallow is their voice is too high, alto when should be contralto.

>>149268690
It's so funny to think there is a Team Zeke vs Team Jimmy jr like Twilight had Team Jacob vs Team Edward as Tina would probably love Twilight.

>>149268905
>>149268934
she should save up some money and buy those really cheap dollar store neck massagers

>>149269003
>>149269107
I don't think Marshmallow is funny, I think she's hot as fuck.
>23 years old live by themselves
>gets high
>does nothing but fucking party
Fuuck yess

>>149269003
>When Marshmallow stopped being funny
Didn't Loren fire/replace the original VA with a literal nonwhite tranny?

There's pandering then there's preachiness. Basically Bob's Burgers sniffs it's own farts now and it's being revisionist despite its own origins

It's all about a squeaky clean image now, alienating hardcore fans and pandering to the masses

Let's not pretend Marshmallow is a dignified symbol of the gay community; these characters were the butt of the joke (hons) but now we're supposed to take accept a caricature unironically. What's next? Pushing drag queen story time? Globohomo? The jew and pedo shit is already in the background and foreground of Bob's Burgers

>>149269275
Well the original voice actor is still with the show voicing mister frond and several different other characters but yeah he got replaced because he's a white guy voicing a black transwoman so they went out and find a black dragqueen(literally) who still isn't a transwoman but identifies as non-binary.

>>149256587
god brendon is so cute

>>149269248
She'd wear it out in a week.

>>149268587
>It just wouldn't work if they don't hate each other.
The best louigan is when sex is just another of getting the better over the other.
>she feels a twinge of envy. How good it must feel, how intense the orgasm must be, after you’ve beaten someone this badly
So the pure satisfaction Logan feels coming not just from having his hand underneath Tina's shirt but also from Louise's irration of that he's going underneath Tina's bra.

>>149268866
I made "Learning to moan after a house with thin walls" character arc for Louise once, but it works for Tina too.

>>149269568
>I made "Learning to moan after a house with thin walls" character arc for Louise once
how'd it go?

>>149241861
>turns out the real burgers were the kids we met along the way

>>149269627
She learned how to moan.

>>149270375
Is that the panty-pisser girl?

>>149269683
The thing fanon Lollie(Louise/Millie) content has that canon Lollie doesn't is it's not one-way. I really dislike how writers can sidestep establish a dynamic between the two and just has Louise just avoiding Millie.

>>149270375
>>149270382
I think the entire slumber party episode existed just so they can write about bedwetting the sick freaks.

>>149270375
Why did they wait almost a decade to bring this character back?

>>149270633
I guess they couldn't think of a good plot for her? Or maybe the actress was busy.

>>149270638
I doubt it was the latter, they have no problem recasting, like that time Loren did that awful fucking voice for Mickey when Bill Hader wasn't available

>>149269683
>>149270414
hypothetically could Millie convince Louise to share a changing room? I guess she could just say no on principle but I'm wondering if Louise has a problem with being naked in front of other people, Gene certainly doesn't, and if undressing in front of Millie would make her nervous.
there's also that unspoken question of is Millie actually gay for Louise i.e. physically and sexually attractive to Louise because it hasn't been officially confirmed.

>>149244564
People with asthma dont fuck.

>>149270638
>>149270633
I think the writing staff of bob's burgers choose the path of least resistance so no brainstorming about why this character and not this character when it's all about somebody saying a funny line.

>>149270802
Nope, instead they gluck.

>>149270536
The sleepover at aquarium episode seemed a similar case

>>149270945
Which outright contradicts the already existing jokes about Louise pooping in public. It's ridiculous, not even people with IBS think about poop as much as the writers.

>>149269252
>hey baby~

>>149271050
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncgBFwa79I8

>>149259873
>>149267722
Cute!

>>149271162
This is ok but Tina discovering the joys of masturbation isn't? Make it make sense.

>>149270945
>>149271050
I kind of liked that episode because I struggle with the exact same problem. But yeah, that was from a weird period of time where they'd just keep releasing episode after episode where the A-plot was about shit or something shit-adjacent, and it was really off-putting. The one where Gene had worms even got nominated for an Emmy, I think.

>>149268536
it has nothing to do about age. their personalities simply don't mix.
>>149268587
this. they legit hate each other.

>>149271545
You can't say they don't have chemistry because the people voicing them have been showbiz partners in the past and you can't really they hate each other when butting heads is kinda the point.

>>149271545
>they legit hate each other
>legit hate
>it's le LEGIT though, guys!
You don't fucking say?

Louise can be hateful, mean, rowdy or precocious? Her personality from the first season must be something you maybe forgot about

>>149257462
A tale as old as time.

>>149271724
my guy, please, read that sentence again.
"they hate each other", they fuck with one another out of spite
>>149271578
voice actors don't have anything to do with the characters in universe.

>>149271845
Deny it all you want. Louise will be bouncing on Logan's dick like it owes her money (which it might) before her next birthday.

>>149271845
>"they hate each other"
>they fuck with one another out of spite
My mistake must've missed that part

butts

>>149272003

Logancucks really are the fucking worst.

>>149259358
>>149268587
Wanting Chlogan but not knowing how they would interact.
What I know about Chloe.
>pretty
>popular
>kind of a bitch?

>>149272070
Anon you've got the tism, and it's terminal i'm afraid

>>149239435 (OP)
Somewhere around seasons 7 through 9. Watching it became a chore. What was once offbeat became mundane. There is no longer any spontaneity to the acting. Every delivery was monotone and rehearsed, and edited so tightly and efficiently that jokes had no room to breathe.
It's not alone in this. Most prime time cartoons fall into the same traps. But American Dad still manages to surprise me one or twice per season, while Bob's Burgers has been shooting blanks for years.

>>149272094
I don't really even know if Logan would team up with Chloe to mess with Louise or if Louise would team up with Logan to take Chloe down a peg or if Chloe and Louise would team up to teach Logan a lesson.

>>149272070
I'm sorry but he's objectively the hottest teen boy who acts all domineering and aggro so of course people are gonna gravitate towards him.

>>149272348
He plays both sides, too.

He's an aggressive male who is antagonistic towards a female, which is basically a unicorn in this day and age.

But also, he's submissive to his own mother, showing that he can be controlled, so he isn't just a wild maniac. He's got definable boundaries in both directions. Ergo, a 3D, basically developed character.


Logan is basically a male Louise, buy three-to-five years older.

>>149247252
https://vocaroo.com/1gaTVfcWNvG6

>>149247108
https://vocaroo.com/1mmkptAobayT

>>149272451
>He plays both sides, too.
yeah I bet he does...

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13611134/1/Losing-His-Mind
https://vocaroo.com/11S2AIhRlnVK

Drew some Louise counter request, cause someone reauested me to draw her without her ears, which is a sin
https://files.catbox.moe/zlopcf.jpg

>>149272790
Logan having a huge hog just feels right typing like Chloe Barbash blowing teenage boys like
there's an element of truth there.

>>149271137
>>149272070
>>149272348
call logan's dick a sweet potato pie because Marshmallow is on top of it.

>>149272979
It's our hentai pal disembodied penis.

>>149269533
she'll have to buy two then

>>149244902
The broken English took me out of it.

>>149269533
>>149273796
Gretchen probably can lend Tina some lady goods.

>>149239435 (OP)
I don't know when exactly it was, but at some point Bob became a complete pushover
He always let the kids take things a step too far before intervening, but lately it feels like he genuinely just tolerates everything everyone does, including his own kids, no matter how unreasonable or dangerous
He used to feel like a simple everyman who reacted strongly to his idiotic family doing stupid shit which made him funny
now he just goes along with everything with no agency whatsoever and its not funny or believable or interesting
Louise could suggest skydiving without parachutes and bob would just be like >Umm... are you like...
>*glances out of plane towards ground awkwardly with a hint of self-awareness*
>SURE this is a good idea Louise? Umm... cuz it kinda doesn't seem like it maybe possibly? I mean I'm not an expert but-

>>149272574
>>149272790
Thanks for these anon

>>149273949
Orgy between everyone in this room.

>>149245752
>His last appearance was in season 11 in Romancing the Beef on February 21, 2021.

So even the Jew producers of the Jew cartoon can't stand Sam Seder anymore? Based.

>>149269683
Sketchtoons hasn't made any new BB stuff in a while. It sucks.

>>149257462
What is it about cartoons that does this to people

>>149246970
Is there a contest among Jews to make history's ugliest cartoon and no one told me?

>>149274369
Can ya drop a link to the uncensored pic?

>>149274431
https://baraag.net/@SketchToons/112114036579385377

>>149274383
Call me crazy but I can see the cuties hiding behind the drawing.

>>149274379
See>>149256653

>>149274369
Am I in trouble for finding >>149269683
much hotter?

>>149239435 (OP)
Bobs burgers was never good

>>149241154
King of the hill was a show I didn't like as a kid but now that I'm an adult I enjoy it. I have never found enjoyment in Bobs burgers at any age

>>149239435 (OP)
>>149275678
When Louise stopped working on get rich quick schemes.

>>149275444
To be fair>>149269683 is more stylized.

>>149243602
the girl that went on before Louise was cute but also was apparently a celebrity guest being R&B singer H.E.R.

>>149244520
I watch the great north. I like the characters and setting as a wacky show. The grandma added to the great north helps it tho. I will say i don't like modern bobs burgers it not longer about bo b and just the kids.

>>149277010
you know something I notice is that the belchers have withdrawn more and more into their apartments as the show has gone on.

>>149277076
Its probably easier to write a a sub par episode in the apartment or the ground floor. If they go outside again everyone is going to have to work to make a decent episode, why would they even bother?

>>149277076
What the Belchers need to do is just get out of the house like have Fresh feed rehire Linda, get Tina back into being lifeguard training, have Gene stick with Theatre, enlist Louise into thunder girls and let Bob roll with the other restaurateurs.

>>149277138
well yeah you don't want to be a tryhard and look like you're actually thinking giving this setting definition.

all hate how the women have dudes voices in this

>>149277154
>let Bob roll with the other restaurateurs.
Remember them? Neither do the writers

>>149277324
I think the writers don't know how to even write running a restuarant outside it being bad, even Bob's Burgers was on the fence if Bob's Burgers was actually good or just mid during season 1...which still doesn't excuse dropping them from the show.

>>149275678

>>149277454
school is just a much more relatable setting, everyone went to a school so its easier for the writers to source humor from their own experiences

bob is a small business owner who's life is consumed by the business and his family so he doesn't really have friends outside of his regulars. he doesn't go to bars like homer and peter, doesn't live in a neighborhood and doesn't have a brother or lasting friendship
whenever his old friends are brought up its portrayed as people he grew out of. most of the people in the town are kind of jerks too
they didn't really have the foresight to really give bob a life outside of his direct purview

they always say bob is kind of a sad dude so all of this fits but its limiting

>>149277564
>but its limiting
Almost to the point of self-defeating as Bob is a sad dude who can only be consoled by his family meaning despite being constantly stressed about his business he constantly neglects his business to focus on being there for his family.

https://vocaroo.com/1cuyRKQXPF8S

>>149277737
>well Logan do you want to go down to the basement and GRIND some meat?

>>149277737
>>149278142
This is how Louise should've escalated the prank war when he was working at the restuarant. How popular are you gonna be with the ladies if they see you getting flustered at getting hit on by a 4th grader?

>>149277564
>everyone went to a school
Not my niece. My brother and his wife are literal schizos who think school will kill their daughter or take their daughter or rape their daughter or transition their daughter or kidnap their daughter or give their daughter the chance to make friends (she is now an adult and she has never had a friend in her life) or expose their daughter to uncomfortable situations or force their daughter to think for herself or feed their daughter food that isn't vegan and organic or teach their daughter things they disagree with like facts and reality.

>>149278262
>but what about my very specific exception!
go blog about it

>>149277564
>>149278262
It's not a very realistic school experince either, guidance counselors do not run the school like Mr. Frond does.

>>149278262
Oh.

>>149258757
>>149258770
>>149263645
>>149265497
>>149268587
>Louise and Tina have a run-in with Logan that went as usual only Logan is shirtless.
>walking away from it a worked up Louise is distractedly venting to an equally distracted Tina about Logan
>but soon Tina starts respsonding to Louise's rants with her own ravings
>the sisters patter fuel each other into breathless agreement reaching their doorstep
>of how much they both want to slap his smug handsome face and bite at his neck and grab his blonde hair.

>>149279033
Is that pyromania or pryophilia?

>>149279403
This reminds me of a great not-safe-for-blue-board piece by D-Rock with the Pines Twins and Louise

>>149239435 (OP)
When Louise pulled a Caddyshack

>>149279566
The one where Dipper and Mabel are into it or the one where Mabel is interrupting them mid-coitus?

>>149279715
>the one where Mabel is interrupting them mid-coitus
That's the one, shows what the age gap would really look like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNJ_NOq49ik

>>149280067
They racebend one of them, that's hot.
>what did bob's burgers mean by this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN0FHhr8Q2A

>>149280438
I thought it would be funny to replace Mabel or Louise lines with Sarah Lynn's, but I don't have skills or energy to do so.

>>149257462
>men with the mind of 10 years olds who watch cartoons all day find 10 year olds attractive
not to defend these cretins but is it really any surprise or shock?

>>149280799
hey pal I have you know I'm degenerate enough to find most of the characters to be sexually attractive. seriously, I've busted to everyone from Miss Merkle to Gayle. I can count the number of character that don't get me bricked up on one hand.

>>149279152
https://vocaroo.com/18Rkr963Z69c

>>149280882
>Bob Belcher
>Teddy
>Jimmy Pesto
>Chuck Charles
>Al Genarro

https://vocaroo.com/13nFghLCe4PV

>>149280966
no love for bears :(

>>149244546
the best ship is Louise/Me

>>149279177
Neither. The context for the episode is that Louise is notoriously un-spookable, so the rest of the family decides to put her through something too good to give away which ends up scaring her for the first time in her life.