Thread 149245641

The damage that this cunt and all of his kin (Garth Ennis, Warren Ellis, etc) have done to the medium of comics is unfathomable. If there was a /co/ Hague, they'd go first up on the noose.

>>149245641 (OP)
Bendis and Millar did damage. Ennis and Ellis wrote some decent comics.

He pays his artists well which is a good thing.

>>149245754
No, they all damaged the industry and medium. Ennis and Ellis were shabbos goys that feigned rebellious sentiment but were unable to work outside the machine and when they did try their hand at the "indie" meme, it was always genre garbage that did nothing but continue to devalue and degrade the medium of comics and how it's perceived. Just juvenile garbage with a veneer of depth. Parodic mockeries disguised as comic book stories. When I think of people who tried to uplift the medium of comic books, I think Frank Miller, John Wagner, James O'Barr, Matt Wagner, Jeff Smith. Not these Big 2 Hollywood wannabe charlatans.

>>149245754
Ellis caused more damage not through his comics but more through the cliques he created through his forum

>>149245641 (OP)
>>149245754
All these guys came in after the damage was done.

The Brit invasion being allowed to happen was the final nail in the coffin for comics. Just a bunch of sociopathic, degenerate pozzed islanders coming over and being given free-reign to take a big, fat, steeming, leech-laced SHIT all over American comic book legacy characters. It was truly over from that point.

>>149245871
Nice bait.

>>149245867
The first wave of the British Invasion happened when comic books peaked.

>>149245904
It was the beginning of the end which came very shortly after.

>>149245974
It was the beginning of great comics. Every subsequent decade has been worse, but that's thanks to the industry itself, not any of the creatives.

>>149246050
And here comes the revisionist sycophant..

>>149246064
Stupid fucking disrespectful fucking chud

>>149245641 (OP)
Bendis has done much more damage over the course of his career. King, Taylor, Snyder, Hickman, Aaron and Kelly Sue Deconnick have done as much if not more damage as well.

Most of millar’s “damage” is confined to an Alt U the rest have ruined the mainline versions of characters in a litany of ways.

kek ya finna seethe?

>>149246230
terrible thing to cherrypick. it was shat on for years until the show and people still shit on the comic.

>>149246064
It's the truth.
>>149246160
I'm the fucking chud.

>>149245641 (OP)
neither the ICC nor the ICJ has the death penalty OP

you're thinking of the Nuremberg trials, which were conducted prior to the adoption of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (article 3 of which guarantees the right to life, though as a treaty rather than primary legislation, this is in practice only enforced in signatory states which ban the death penalty through other means such as the European Convention or the various US state legislatures that have banned the death penalty within their individual states of the Union

>>149245754
It's really Bendis and Ellis that paved the way for Millar to kickstart the profusion of adaptation bait comics. Not sure what Ennis has to do with it.

>>149245641 (OP)
I can't hate Millar even if I don't like his comics. He's pretty cool.

>>149245811
Matt Fraction, Kelly Sue Deconnick, Kieron Gillen, Sam Humphries, anyone else i'm forgetting?

>>149245641 (OP)
I kinda hope Grant does see him crossing the street in front of him one of these days. I bet he’d be floored to see him.

>>149247821
Morrison comes off like the bigger asshole. I wonder Millar did to piss him off.

>>149245641 (OP)
What influence was Ennis given? Like at most he was sequestered in his own little Punisher bubble. If anything I'd blame Millar Bendis and King because they're some of the shittiest writers imaginable and have a bunch of fags trying to immitate them specifically on top of their influence outside the comic medium itself.

>>149245641 (OP)
Oh so I’M the asshole just cause I think it’s funny to watch a fat Mexican rape the villain of a comic

>>149247845
>I wonder Millar
I wonder what Millar

>>149245805
Ennis wrote some good action/adventure comics for boys, but his strengths are pretty much in the writing aspects, not so much the comic book aspects.
Ellis had something with the widescreen format, but it ultimately served adaptation crap. We got a few good comics out of it.

>>149249212
>Ennis wrote some good action/adventure comics for boys,
Even worse, he wrote books for immature Gen-Xers. You see it in Preacher and Hellblazer.

>>149249230
Those are comics for boys. I've been able to get my shonen manga-reading friends into Ennis and little else, comics wise.

>>149249271
I dunno man, Hitman sure. Preacher and his Hellblazer run were clearly intended for an older, shit head audience.

>>149249557
Ennis himself admited he considered those as still superheroes with a coat of sophistication. It's still a power fantasy with a main character with superpowers and a costume

>>149249557
>shit head
Every Ennis fan I've met has been cool.

>>149249271
Ennis writes better than any shonenslopper except maybe Togashi. It's pretty surreal to even see him compared to shonenslop because he's writing for adults while shonenslop is written for boys, and it's worrying that our culture is stuck consuming media for children and letting it influence people's worldview like it has any meaningful insights to give.

>>149249798
Every fan of Preacher and The Boys is a shithead tho.

>>149250037
None of the ones I've met.

>>149249864
He CAN write better than most shonensloppers but he has his fair share of stinkers too, that Red Sonja pastiche thing he just did was fucking awful.

Great thing about Pat Mills is that he hates most of the American comic book industry so we don't get any posts like this about him

>>149245805
Have the two Wagners ever met?

>>149245805
>When I think of people who tried to uplift the medium of comic books, I think Frank Miller, John Wagner, James O'Barr, Matt Wagner, Jeff Smith.
Also Bryan Talbot, Alan Moore, Howard Chaykin (with Ken Bruzenak), Steve Gerber, and Dave Sim.

>>149250382
So does Ennis, he just likes their paychecks more than he hates them.

>>149250382
I love comics and hate most of the American comic book industry.

>>149249230
Might be the first time I've seen someone call Dangerous Habits a bad comic.

>>149245805
Okay, little child.

>>149245774
Every artist he's worked with was a well established name in comics and art. They all would have told him to fuck off if he didn't pay their rates.

>>149245904
this
comics are shit now cause people don't make comics like they made anymore

>>149246253
The comic is better than the show and I'm tired of the meme that it's somehow worse.
The show is every bit as juvenile and pointlessly edgy and stupid (if not more so) with none of the characterization of the Boys or few cool moments that made the comic semi-defensible.

>>149249864
It's sad to see someone so wrapped up in a stilted idea of maturity that they can't see the value in any wisdom that can be gleaned from a work, regardless of the target demographic.

>>149252026
This thread was made by disgruntled capeshitters. What did you expect?

>>149251146
It's alright, it's not the greatest Hellblazer story ever. I don't even think it's Ennis' best one.

>>149245641 (OP)
this guy is putting out comics with unfinished artwork now

>>149253670
Really? Which ones?

>>149245805
Lets add the late Mike Wieringo to this.

>>149250037
I like preacher but not the boys

What does that make me?

>>149254800
Normal.

>>149255092
Cool, can I get a certificate to attest that?

Might come in handy

>>149245754
Bendis is good