She will never have a live-action remake

>>149266343 (OP)
Actually they are currently seeking an Indigenous writer to write her live action film. But they get carte Blanche to write Pocahontas with certain caveats.

I showed a clip of this character to my dad, and he said "what a Pocahontas ripoff"

>>149266634
It was actually a Kingdom of the Sun (Emperor's New Groove before) rip-off

>>149266343 (OP)
why are injuns such victimists?

>mmiw
I had to check this because at first I thought she (and you know a woman drew this) was pissy because an Indian married a white guy
Pocahontas died from disease while she was returning to Virginia from England. Her husband John Rolfe said in a letter that her death was "much lamented", but I can't find the full letter to see what else he thought

>>149266790
Their vastly stronger enemy showing them mercy mind broke them

>>149266343 (OP)
>MMIW
what the fuck is that?

>>149267233
>Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women[a] are instances of violence against Indigenous women in Canada and the United States, notably those in the First Nations in Canada and Native American communities,
Bit silly term to use here, given that Pocahontas dropped dead from a disease rather than being murdered.

>>149267233
In Canada it's another grift that injuns use to guilt more money out of the government. They pretend like chugettes aren't killed mostly by their own kind on the reservation and act like a sinister conspiracy of white men is behind it all.

>>149266343 (OP)
Lol, she's down bad for The Full English.

>>149266790
Funny, innit? Abos got it worse and they don’t complain.

>>149267473
Remember when they tried to convince everyone that there were mass graves of native children outside those Canadian schools? Remember when that turned out to be a lie and the media just stopped talking about it?

>>149266790
It's easier than getting a job.

I'm surprised there isn't more salt for Mexico, tjey genocided WAY more tribed than America.

>>149267530
Yeah, I remember the media and the government looked the other way as over a hundred churches were burned down and then just sort of brushed it all aside when they didn't find any bodies.

>>149267473
Conspiracy theory that it's a conspiracy theory the evidence cells get most of these women on horrible situations because of how horrible they Place those native reserves and family suffering from the consequences of Indian schools with these women going off into the world with no way to be prepared for it and ended up missing all that if this was being done by native peoples themselves that would be known to law enforcement and the government instead of them being vulnerable easy high risk targets for everyone.

>>149267548
What are you even talking about the Mexican cartels or the black churches getting bombed by the KKK in the South Jordan the fight against the Jim Crow?

>>149267530
>poopskins lie to get free gibs
Omg no way

>>149266790
Victimists?

>>149267056
You mean an invading for singing they sold their Mercy by false conversion and deliberately trying to destroy the Indian identity but making them dysfunctional individuals for life by kidnapping them from the parents and constantly physically abusing them at sexually abusing them and giving them no way to hold the people who did it accountable for their actions because they were Indian kids? it may have been messy in the eyes of the Conqueror but quite frankly there are treaties being broken in America and Canada to this day often not even by government initiative but companies who want Grand people are living on and arguing they're not using it fully even though that was never in the international treaty that was signed between the groups.

>>149267569
I mean this.
Over a hundred churches were burned down over a false claim of mass graves.
https://www.junonews.com/p/church-arsons

>be confederate
>lose war
>get virtually erased from history

>be Indian
>lose war
>must be protected and dickrode at all costs

Make it make sense.

>>149267605
Brown privilege.

>>149267538
Probably because Mexico today has more people with indigenous blood than in the U.S. as well as active native speakers.

>>149266343 (OP)
Knowing Disney if they ever do a remake of their adaptation of Pocahontas they will have it that the Powatan Tribe taps into their magic to destroy the Evil Whites and become the dominant race and tribe in North America so that the United States is never founded.

Not joking this is what Disney would do. They already bastardized the history of Pocahontas so why wouldn't they do this especially since Modern Jewish Disney hates white nations.

>>149267593
Injuns get billions from the government every year, free college, and don't have to pay taxes. Any historical crimes against them, real or imagined, have more than been made up for. If they can't get their lives together despite being given near limitless advantages and handouts, that's their fault.

>>149267605
>>get virtually erased from history
Confirmed never lived in the south

>>149266790
Because white people are stupid and LISTEN to victim nonsense. All these victim groups should thank their lucky stars that they aren't under Arab oppression because they actually truly genocide their undesirables. For example in Turkey their African slaves were castrated to prevent them from having descendants and creating problems down the line.

>>149266790
They have a much better claim than other American minorities

This is still funny to me

>>149267655
This. I grew up in the south, there are plenty of plaques commemorating where battles roughly took place. There was even a confederate cemetery near by where I grew up and it's still there.

>>149267603
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Indian_residential_school_gravesites
>>149267643
Tell that to the many people who are still alive today who were forced to go to those Indian schools and were abused horribly that's the fuck you up for life.Also most of them get nowhere near the amount of money you think the average one gets let alone infinite resources compared to you and hands out most of them live in horrible reserves to a deliberately chosen their to be as economically horrible for them as possible to force them into becoming white with just messed them up for multiple Generations and I am a white Canadian.

>>149267676
It's funny. In Manitoba and the rest of Western Canada, natives are absolutely savage (heh) and keep attacking pajeets.

>>149267538
Mexico has their own problems Drug Problems. Not to mention an increasing illegal pet tigers being sold to rich scumbag problem. Honestly waiting until Mexico collapses. That Jewish bitch they have as leader will be the doom of Mexico since she's making problems worse.

>>149266343 (OP)
Pocahontas wasn't missing or murdered, though? She died of disease in a foreign country at a time when that wasn't exactly rare.

>>149266380
There's no way they actually make the movie. Make something faithful to the animated film and you'll have activists screaming 1000x more than they did when the original came out. Make something closer to reality and you'll alienate every normie as it borders on unrecognizable.

>>149267643
The day the US goes bankrupt and collapses will be the day many of these Non White Victims cry blood because the gibs will be gone. And it will be civil war most likely. The only winners will be Jews laughing as they leave the nation.

>>149267530
Activists were trying to shutdown Canada Day celebrations because of that. Because of Trump, I didn't hear from a single one of them this year. Weird.

>>149267728
1) They wanted the residential schools.
2) Even the Truth and Reconciliation report found no evidence of abuse.
3) Nobody's forcing them to blow all their welfare money on Listerine.

>>149267791
Activists don't mean anything in current year especially since a lot of people have grown to hate these nuisances. That's what they are nuisances.

Many studios and companies are STARTING to see that activists screeching online are a Loud Minority. As such must be ignored especially now that some of that bribe money has dried up. The only reason we got spammed with so much Leftist Agenda shit for years is these companies were bribed by Jewish interest groups.

>>149267812
Trump is too busy starting a new Arab War between an Muslim Nation and the US. Typical Jewish Puppet. I sincerely hope the US is destroyed so that idiot citizens have no choice but to ask what happened to their country. Suffering is always the best teacher.

>>149267793
Society collapse things get violent and you think the Jews are going to be laughing and able to leave? Dude do you know anything about Jewish history because people say this stuff all the time that the Jews are all behind it even though there's no evidence other than that one rich guy seems Jewish to me sometimes a few of them are slightly Jewish but they say no it's all the Jews make it all this happen and then most of the Jews end up being violently targeted because they were already a targeted minority who are victims of violence before Society already collapsed and it was horrible for them when it did just look at well basically any time it does what happens to the Jews in the last I'm going to say after World War II across many places in the world no government someone's going to go straight to the Jews and say that what instantly solve all the problems if they kill them and take this stuff. Also why is the US going to go bankrupt and most non-whites are not psychotic like you think they are.

>>149267824
1 I have no idea where you got number one but anyone who said they wanted it would either forced to or totally lie about what it was supposed to be and was going to be.2 I don't know where you got no evidence of abuse was found when we got hundreds of people a lot today who would testify about systematic I got the hell beat out of me by not singing Christian songs like was physically beaten for not talking in English 100% of the time got sex with you molested and such and the last one I don't even know where you got that fromé

>>149267856
I live in leafland. Trump's 51st state trolling created a bunch of fake patriotism even from the lefties who less than a year ago were preaching about how Canada is stolen land and shouldn't be celebrated.

>>149267812
>Because of Trump, I didn't hear from a single one of them this year. Weird.
Trump cut off USAID funding so the usual agitators have to go find actual jobs now.

>>149267860
Don't defend the Jews. They are the ones funding every single harmful destructive agenda on white countries and exporting them to Asian countries. Jews are indeed shit and deserve to be hated and killed into extinction especially the Banker Jews who buy up governments.

>>149267882
Its a mess. Really now crashing and burning will be necessary to correct what has gone wrong in many western nations. A big reset fueled by a lot of pain and strife.

>>149267896
So you think Jews somehow made Samurai Warriors and other video game companies and Anime and manga have black samurai and it had nothing to do with the history of yasuke bodyguard to the most powerful Daniel in Japan Nobunaga?

>>149267894
This money you think is used that makes all the diversity and media happens never existed no company has been paid anywhere near as much as you think to push diversity they just want to make money and no political agenda is making them make bad stuff or put in diversity in it. Also it's not fake patriotism to not want to be part of Donald Trump's America all speaking up against his imperialist agenda when he's like I'm going to take back as soon as Canal that America sold or take over Greenland.

>>149266343 (OP)
>mmiw
Do these retards actually read about history beyond shitty Vice articles?

>>149267746
>Not to mention an increasing illegal pet tigers being sold to rich scumbag problem.
It's always dangerous and exotic animals, slightly unrelated but I've heard reintroduction of certain animals causing problems for people in rural areas and smaller towns. It's anecdotal so take it with a grain of salt.
>That Jewish bitch they have as leader will be the doom of Mexico
She sucks, she cut the budget for their institute of anthropology. There's always cool shit being found in Mexico, last year some pyramidal structure was found during the construction of a highway or something but had to be reburied due to the lack of funding.

>>149266343 (OP)
Stop complaining, She Who Drinks Firewater. You lost. You haven't been Natives in decades, you're Americans whether you like it or not. The fact you're even around is due to the mercy of our amazing Republic. Embrace who you are, never forget your heritage, but face the truth and know it. My Grandfather have up Prussia and my other Grandfather gave up California. It's time to move on.

>>149267995
Again those merciful American boarding schools wanted them to forget their Heritage and their families and everything about not being a servant to White Society .Also what do you mean family members gave up Prussia and California Casa Prussia was the base for modern day Germany and California is still the state of California.

The mods are here we better clean up our Behavior about racism and all that.

>>149266343 (OP)
>any Disney animation flawed or not cannot have a live-action remake
FTFY

>>149268107
What about a buddy film between a Native American and a white person in the early days of colonialism going on at Adventure to get her same gende?

>>149267605
1. Nobody tried to eradicate Southern culture after the war.
2. Very few natives were fighting for the explicit motive of wanting to keep owning fellow human beings as property.

>>149266343 (OP)
If only because it would be blatant Oscar bait just like the original was.

>>149268252
I could see it being marketed as more serious and "accurate" the way Mulan was.

>>149267675
I'd say blacks are a close second.

>149267429
You could be charitable and interpret this as a reference to how she was in English captivity for a few years, but that seems like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.

>>149267988
Probably not. They certainly don't know that "Pocahontas" might have actually been more than one girl.

>>149267744
based

>>149266343 (OP)
i bet as soon as they get their land back they'll turn it in to a capitalist hellhole with no foreign policy

>>149269105
What do you mean when they get their land back they've had land before without that happening and technically International treaties speaking they have one of those that still gets taken all the time now in Days by businesses who tell the government they're not using whether living so give it to us while we giving them nothing.

>>149267655
Nigga I can't even visit Stone Mountain anymore without getting smacked in the face with reminders about how the beautiful and meticulously crafted rock carving is heckin super evil and I shouldn't even be looking at it

>>149267525
Well Aboriginals aren't in movies because they aren't sexy like native Americans are.

>>149268217
>Nobody tried to eradicate Southern culture after the war
Richmond begs to differ
>Very few natives were fighting for the explicit motive of wanting to keep owning fellow human beings as property
They still served on the pro-slave side because they shared a common belief that the dickheads in Washington shouldn't control what they do.

>>149267525
God you have no idea, I'm not even Australian and I know this. The most loud and vocal ones are the mixed light skin ones talking about Australia's blak future through shitty murals and art.

>>149269148
Are you saying any risk of people telling you about how that happened or possibly posting it on your Facebook account when you have image being smacked in the face ?

>>149266343 (OP)
Pocahontas didn't go missing and she wasn't murdered. She got sick and died in England.

>>149268024
NTA

fuck the boarding school. we have the internet now and if liberal capitalist natives can't understand the difference between leftists and fascists for no other reason that "they're a bunch of dead white guys, all politics is colonialism", then they don't deserve whatever the fuck they're asking for. if there had been more marxist revolutions that were more frequent and successful than just the ones in 1848, then democracy could have overtaken bullshit monarchies faster and the number of white colonists trying to escape destitution would have been smaler. the influx of europeans to north america would have bee much smaller. "hurr durr white people" is such a lazy copout. for fucks sake get class conscious you dumb motherfucker. a bunch of wretches living in slums in europe didn't wake up one day and say "you know what, i wanna fuck over some indigenous people". at least with pioneers, you could massacre both the innocent and guilty alike for being so far traveled to the interior of the continent. the aristocrats and ruling class created the conditions for so many white migrants to have a reason to cross the fucking atlantic

nevermind the fact that zapatistas and other leftist revolutionaries have existed in indigenous communities for over a century

>>149266790
That's the fucked up thing though. There's a bunch of people doing it for them. A real Injun is too concerned about managing diabetes while still getting drunk and eating fast food every day. But let an uppity white person know there's an excuse to hate their own kind and they'll jump at it. It's like how over the last 80 years, Jews have just become a flavor of white to the point it is okay to hate Israel with a passion now. Because it's white people killing brown people and that's the worst thing there is when you don't have any other problems.

>>149269183
Look who won reconstruction for Generations at the slavery was gone but oh wait I guess treating people like shit is destroying sudden culture to you when it's becomes illegal also the South didn't want to succeed because a dick heads in Washington they did it because they lost an election and will worry they might be forced to give up slavery so they made a new country let's say believe some method into law by starting a war yes the Civil War was started by a sudden at the war not them succeeded.

>>149267605
the declarations of war for the southern states literally said they were going to war for slavery. fuck your confederate flag, get pissed on

>>149269183
How does it feel to know an ESL can refute your argument so easily:
>>149269233

>>149266343 (OP)
Good. The Live-Action Remakes suck ass. Even the very best of them are "meh" at best.

>>149269183
>They still served on the pro-slave side because they shared a common belief that the dickheads in Washington shouldn't control what they do.
Plenty of Natives fought on both sides and even against both sides, so don't even try to pull that disingenuous crap.

>>149266790
they're really not
they have issues on reservations that no one pays attention so they can't cry about the past that much
its just white libs who hate being white

>>149267605
We don't have Southern reservations, you clod. They were accepted back into the union. The Indians have been othered since we got here. There's a reason why there's a bunch of white folks with some Indian in them and not a race of mixed Indians like Mexico has and that's because we made no attempt to blend cultures. Even when we beat them, we have them some land that isn't technically America, gave them the right to open tax-free casinos, and offer free college to all of their children (who usually don't take it because you don't need a degree to work construction.) Because they were left with fucking nothing after we got done with them. The South may have had a city or two razed to the ground but many still had homes to go back to. Let's put it this way, we put a lot more effort into rebuilding the South and maintaining its people to this day than we do for the people we had to conquer to get the land at all.

>>149269293
>white libs who hate being white
Do you have any evidence that this white liberals hate being white besides so in sympathy and empathy and white guilt is somehow evil in your eyes and so in any of this to kids or giving them any indication or evidence of past actions might make some of them feel a tiny bit of guilt is somehow evil CRT ( which is actually a college legal cost at not talk to kids)?

>>149266343 (OP)
She might. Hunchback of Norte Dame and Tarzan won't. I don't know if Mulan was for China bucks, nostalgia bucks, or both. (As someone born in the early 1980s, it astounds me how much people born in the early 1990s like Mulan. Specifically Mulan too. Every between the Lion King and Lilo and Stitch is fucking trash. But it's like Mulan and sort of Hercules stand out to them for some reason. Then again, this is also the demo that lives the Star Wars prequels.)

>>149269318
Holy run-on sentence, Batman! I think he's malding!

>>149267530
Yeah, the tl;dr version is the Canadian government operated thousands of boarding schools for the indigenous population, mostly administered by churches. Out of the nearly 150,000 students who attended the schools over the course of nearly a century and a half, about 4000 were reported to have died, usually due to TB outbreaks and shit in the late 1800s and early 1900s. The discovery of a few unmarked burial sites for dead students lead to a massive conspiracy theory that the government and churches were basically murdering and abusing children for decades. And of course people bought it hook, line, and sinker.

>>149266343 (OP)
They'll remake it sooner than Song of the South that's for sure. The Br'ers got purged from everything while you can still meet Pocahontas and Meeko at the parks.

>>149269318
>white guilt is somehow evil
Unironically yes.
Having empathy for the less fortunate is one thing, the implication that white people ought to feel "guilt" purely because of their race is so fucking stupid that you're literally proving his point for him.

>>149267605
>southern states that are conservative get the most federal funding for social programs
>southern states that are conservative are fucking retarded and vote for politicians who make sure southern states don't have social programs, so inevitably the economies of the southern states are shit

make it make sense

>>149267605
Neither war would've happened if not-mes didn't exist.

Just saying.

The United States of America didn’t exist until White people built it, ergo, Whites are Native Americans.

>>149269479
nations can be formed according to whatever standards (for example rivers and geographic boundaries) and the definition of nation is dependent on the people in the nation and does not require acknowledgement outside of said nation to fit the definition. your premise is incorrect

I'd rather listen to them and the whining then the blacks and their whining

It's just lower class American Republican whites in the south that should feel guilt for existing. The fuck are you even voting for, Cletus?

>>149269479
>Built the U.S.A
Yes :)
>Indigenous to the North American continent
No :(

>>149266343 (OP)
"MMIW?" Is that the new thing from the Alphabet Community?

>>149269539
Is Google just for aesthetics now, or do we know longer trust it?

>>149266343 (OP)

>>149269479
Correct.

>>149266343 (OP)
>>149269427
Why is it that Disney tries to erase the existence of stuff like Song of the South and give all their racial caricatures from their past as least attention as possible, yet Pocahontas gets a pass?

Keep in mind that they retroactively changed the Native Americans on the Peter Pan to less-cartoony Native Americans
https://www.geeksandgamers.com/peter-pans-flight-changes-native-american-figures/
The newer designs are infinitely less appealing.

Like isn’t the film Pocahontas universally despised by Native Americans?

>>149269585
The American Indians didn’t usurp the term until the 1960s.

>>149269585
>>149269603
And people thought the Earth was flat, and the solar system was geocentric.

>>149267525
That's because they're too busy drinking gasoline and sleeping in the middle of the road.

>>149267728
>and I am a white Canadian
Then why do you type like an illiterate jeet?

>>149269585

>>149269628
The term was simply too powerful to be allowed to remain a part of White identity.

They should make a historically accurate version where Pocahontas is a naked little girl who does cartwheels

>>149269594
Pocahontas had some natives involved in the production and doing roles, so while there might be some objections, ultimately you can say there’s some legitimate native aspect to the movie

>>149269594
Pocahontas was bankrolled to be their next biggest thing while The Lion King was treated as a side project. Their version of Pocahontas is also accepted as Disney Royalty™ so they can keep wringing money from viewers.

>Like isn’t the film Pocahontas universally despised by Native Americans?

By whom, exactly?

>>149266790
They were genocided a lot. I was reading the California indian genocides and it was mostly about how the spanish and white people enslaved so the indians decided to get uppity and got killed. Other times the Americans just killed them for no reason.

>>149267605
Indigenous people betrayed by dozens of presidents despite their loyalty to the nation vs traitors that wanted to kill their countrymen because picking cotton themselves was too hard.

>>149269594
Let’s also not forget the special they did with kindly Dr. Von Braun where he explained how he was going to land a man on the moon.

>>149270399
So they’re simultaneously loyal citizens and a part of their own nations that didn’t want anything to with the U.S. and we’re just “minding their business”?

>>149266343 (OP)
Did they have her birth certificate??

>>149267530
Its weird that they never apologized for that shit

>>149266790
they were taught that it was profitable. my local tribe is always getting free money every other month. each kid gets 20k from their tribal trust fund when they reach 18 years old. The fund came from reparations for imagined slights 100 years ago. The entire tribe is basically funded by grants from the state and federal government. you can go onto the res and find dudes getting paid 100k a year to be paper pushers like its some 1990s dotcom, shits absolutely wild. just last month some decade long scam they had been running finally pulled through. They got abunch of white people to collect 50 million dollars to buy land from a timber company so they could directly give it to them for them to 'manage'.

this group was like 50 people total when first discovered in the late 1800s, one of the last tribes ever found in the usa. they were never oppressed, but instead immediately protected by the government back then as some kind of endangered wild life. yet they still run the stolen land grift because it pays so well. now theres 50,000 of them throughout the state, they get free jobs, free housing, free healthcare while still whining about how hard their ancestors had it.

>>149270398
Indians had tribal governments and tribal societies. You ever think about the logical consequences of such a civilization? In the old days, there use to be this phrase called 'indian giver' It was because tribes had a habbit of giving things away, then taking them back. Personal trades, government trades, it didnt matter. Why did they do that? because thats how ownership works in tribal societies. It's hierarchical/caste based, and any deal made with the tribe automatically ends the moment the deal maker dies or is replaced by someone else So when Big Chief makes a deal, its only as good as his life time. When he dies, Big chief Junior takes the braves annd heyo heyas and tries to take their stuff back. When they fail, they try to make a new deal for themselves

>>149268217
>2. Very few natives were fighting for the explicit motive of wanting to keep owning fellow human beings as property.

indians literally kept practicing slavery after the civil war on their own reservations/within their own tribes and fought multiple court cases to maintain their slaves.

>>149270537
The indian giver stereotype was actually based on misunderstanding of bartering being confused with gifts exchanges. It was more like they wanted a refund which the Whites misunderstood as taking back gifts.

They won't NOT remake Pocahontas because of "historical inaccuracies" or "cultural insensitivity," but because of the elements that ARE factually correct. Reminder that the movie literally opens up with her tribe celebrating their defeat of a neighboring tribe. This was EXTREMELY common during this time period, and Native Americans traded with the white man for guns specifically to get a leg up on their foes. This is the kind of harsh truth that historians don't like to bring up: that the supposed peaceful natives could be fucking monsters when it came to driving away those who encroached on the land they claimed ownership of.

>>149267945
>So you think Jews somehow made Samurai Warriors and other video game companies and Anime and manga have black samurai and it had nothing to do with the history of yasuke bodyguard to the most powerful Daniel in Japan Nobunaga?
Yasuke barely existed in media until 2016, after a jew wrote fanfiction about him.
Not even that anon, but a jew is genuinely responsible for why he's in media now.
Wether or not him being jewish is related to why he wrote the fanfiction is a whole other deal though.

>>149270399
>chief biggums trades land for shiney beads
>chief biggums dies and is buried with his shiney beads
>chief biggums the 2nd wants shiney beads too, demands the land is either given back or he gets more shiney beads
>white people go 'lol what, thats not how it works'
>chig biggums the 2nd takes many braves and attacks unarmed white settlers, enacts the same kind of terrorism muslims do in the middle east to get their way
>fine fine, we will make a new deal with CLEARER terms, stop being a sperg

>chiefbiggums the 2nd gets his beads and there is much rejoicing
>chiefbiggums the 2nd dies and is buried with his beads
>chief biggums the 3rd is absolutely pissed that he has no beads, no land, and now white people are living in much nicer houses then him
>chief biggums the 3rd demands to renegociate the deal...

>200 years later, someone teaches you that evil white people (deeply religious protestants that were expelled from the uk for being such ardent pacifists they refused to join the miliarty) were actually backstabbing murderous psychopaths that just kept betraying their neighbors for no reason

>>149270605
sure thing shlomo.

>>149266343 (OP)
Why did Disney hate John Ratcliffe so much? The real guy didn't seem to be much of a villain. IRL, the natives he encountered seemed to be far worse. They killed him by skinning him alive.

I just think Meeko is cute.
CUTE!!!

this movie is fucking boring

>>149269422
This is misleading.
Residential schools were pretty fucked up and there absolutely was a huge amount of what would [by 21st century standards] be considered abuse. The injuns are 110% exagerrating and outright fabricating shit to get gibs, sympathy, and an excuse to hate white people, but that does not invalidate the truth that residential schools, while initially well intentioned, did lead to significant neglect and corporal punishment that I do not believe have any place in a school. I do not know why British boarding school culture (which is also pretty fucked up) is not viewed the same way as residential schools but it should be. If you think both are totally fine OR if you think both are fucked up and/or abuse then I have no qualms with you, but I don't like people who think one was wrong while the other was totally fine.

What really gets my goat though, is the mistreatment of Egerton Ryerson. The man is a genuine Canadian hero and he got depersoned because he had a couple of paragraphs in a 90+ page report saying that injun children should be educated in science, math, and English so that they could live respectable lives in Canadian towns and cities without being exploited or looked down upon by Europeans. That got twisted into him being in favor of residential schools (despite the report being written literally decades before those existed) and the media running a smear campaign on someone who did more for public education than any living teacher or organization today.

>>149267525
They absolutely do.

>>149270685
The fact that they took a guy who got into hot water with his own men for being TOO generous with the native, and turned him into a greedy Indian hater, would be hilarious if it wasn't the fact that he was a real guy, and got fucking flayed alive for his troubles.

>>149270685
Because they needed a villain and he was right there.

>>149266343 (OP)
>Actively smears a guy who was pretty peaceful and co-operative with the Indians, only for this to backfire and for him to get skinned alive by them.
>People only get angry at the inaccurate portrayal of Pocahontas.
Justice for John Ratcliffe

>>149270738
Residential Schools were no better or worse than any other schools at the time, and certainly better than letting starve in the wilderness. They get played up as uniquely horrible because the CBC and the rest golf the Canadian media and political establishment needed a white guilt narrative to exploit for social engineering purposes. Even the Truth and Reconciliation report admitted that all the evidence of abuse was at best anecdotal.

>>149266634
Your dad is evidently retarded.

>>149270449
Von Braun literally did nothing wrong.

>>149270685
>>149270949
Tbf the records that state he was skinned alive were missing in a drawer somewhere at the time.

>>149270918
Why not use Edward Maria Wingfield, who was actually a member of parliament, was in Virginia specifically as part of a a business venture for the Virginia Company of London, of which he was the main financial backer, and actually got overthrown by John Smith, and the real Ratcliffe, since he allegedly treated the men like shit, and hoarded food during a shortage.
He even returned to England and got free of the charges, just like Ratcliffe in the sequel.
Hell, it basically fells like the just took Ratcliffe's name and slapped it on Wingfield for no reason.

>>149266343 (OP)
The fact Pocahontas was made at all is baffling. Anatasia must have really lived rent-free in some Disney's suits head or something.

>>149270949
The story is named Pocahontas not his is an evil or bad man and turn in a kidnapping and forcible marriage into a love story is bad and the center point of the story not this one guy's bad.


>>149271023
>>149270685
Do you honestly believe the self-serving accounts of the so-called survivors with undoubted faith? Aren't you usually the guy to want to question the original narrative and work for any evidence of falsehood but these accusations of we did nothing bad but they lied and betrayed us for no good reason at the river did that is a questionable to you at all especially consider it how asshole the colonizers were at the time with the native americans?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EPY1CKFecs

>>149267791
So knowing Disney, they’ll take the second route.

>>149271083
Probably because they didn't deeply read any historical accounts. The movie is literally built off warping a likely false story in the first place. They likely just went with "Who's the Governor at the time" and saw Ratcliffe.

>>149270840
So his man who said we didn't like how generous he was with the natives and then he got himself killed by them and skin alive which we somehow know despite we the survivors were not and therefore we knew exactly how to treat the Indians like shit is the only wife thing to do because they would kill you and betray you if you do not isn't suspicious to you you? Look up how the battle of the Little Bighorn really happen according to modern day experts as compared to portrayed in history hint then American Military got their ass kicked not by numbers but by better armed Native Americans the US cavalry try to take women and children hostages but failed that and they were just outgrade without it being a manner of numbers against them.

>>149266343 (OP)
True, that would be way too awkward for Disney, the whole "true story" thing being in the way.

For fun let's make a list of Animated Disney movies that will likely never receive a live-action remake unless they literally run out of the better option.
>Saludos Amigos
>The Three Caballeros
>Make Mine Music
>Song of the South
>Fun and Fancy Free
>Melody Time
>Robin Hood
>The Black Cauldron (though I know one was planned, oddly enough)
>The Great Mouse Detective
>Oliver & Company
>DuckTales the Movie
>A Goofy Movie
>Pocahontas
>A Bug's Life
>Doug's 1st Movie
>Dinosaur
>Recess: School's Out
>Atlantis: The Lost Empire
>Treasure Planet
>Brother Bear
>Teacher's Pet
>Home on the Range
>Valiant
>Chicken Little
>The Wild
>Meet the Robinsons
>Bolt
>Gnomeo & Juliet
>Mars Needs Moms
>Strange Magic
>The Good Dinosaur
>Spies in Disguise
>Onward
>Raya and the Last Dragon
>Ron's Gone Wrong
>Lightyear
>Strange World
>Elemental
>Wish
>Turning Red
>Luca
>Elio

This may seem like a long list but kind of isn't if you look at all the animated movies this company has made.

>>149271117
It was literally their big Oscar bait film.
The Lion King was the smaller side project to Pocahontas' big main project.

>>149271164
You want a second try at that garbled mess? A few commas would do wonders too.

>>149270621
Natives would also steal land from each other. The Sioux were actually displaced from their ancestral homeland along the Upper Mississippi by the Ojibwe, and as they moved west to the Great Plains, they displaced many tribes who were already there like the Pawnee and the Cheyenne. Hell, the word "Sioux" isn't an endonym; it's believed to have derived from a French corruption of other tribes' word for "enemy".

>>149271131
To be fair, the Injuns were kinda shits too. To one another as well as the colonists. but John Smith did zero favors. I can mostly believe THOSE particular colonist probably didn't deserve what they got but nobody was gonna split hair that these were exiled whites.

>>149271259
>>149271131
>>149270685


Deposition and Governance Conflicts
Ratcliffe alienated colonists by over-generous trading with the Powhatan and by ordering the construction of a lavish governor’s house—later nicknamed “Ratcliffe’s Palace”—during food shortages. His handling of diplomacy and supply shortages led to his removal in July 1608; Matthew Scrivener replaced him.

The Starving Time: Ambush and Death
During the winter of 1609–1610, known as the Starving Time, Ratcliffe and 25 men were lured to a Powhatan “trade” feast. It was a trap: most were killed as they entered Indian dwellings or while carrying away corn. Ratcliffe alone was bound naked to a stake, flayed by women using mussel shells, and forced to watch his skin cast into the flames. This grisly account comes from William Phettiplace’s survival testimony and George Percy’s chronicle (A Trewe Relacyon).

Context: Why This Happened
Powhatan likely orchestrated the ambush as revenge for earlier English insults, assaults, and Ratcliffe’s credulity—he had released Powhatan’s son and daughter, forfeiting valuable hostages. Ratcliffe also failed to maintain proper guard protocols, sending men in small groups into Indian settlements. Anthropologist Helen C. Rountree notes that Powhatan customarily met “notorious enemies” with prolonged, public executions as an “honorable” punishment, distinct from swift justice meted out to common criminals.

Modern Historical Critique
All we know of Ratcliffe’s fate derives from English survivors with clear motives: justifying harsh reprisals against the Powhatans. Scholars caution that George Percy’s narrative amplifies Native “savagery” to rally colonial support. Modern historians debate the literal accuracy of every torturous detail, pointing to the lack of Powhatan-sourced accounts and the possibility of sensationalism in early Virginia chronicles.

A great guy.

>>149271131
>for no good reason
They probably had a good reason, at least from their own perspective.
It's a well known fact that plenty of first contacts with tribes broke down, even though many of them initially had established good relation, due to old world deceases spreading among the natives, and that some tribes would directly blame the settlers and turn hostile.
And Ratcliffe's party also had the whole "Being a burden on the tribe due to the colony being a massive fuck-up" stacked on top.
So not only do you have these white men come in and maybe be the ones killing your people with magic, but now they also beg for hand outs during an already trying season for you and your people.
Killing them and their leader in some sort of ritual is absolutely not an abnormal idea.

>>149271117
Anastasia was much later than Pocahontas.

>>149271308
>ordering the construction of a lavish governor’s house—later nicknamed “Ratcliffe’s Palace”—during food shortages.
>Ratcliffe alone was bound naked to a stake, flayed by women using mussel shells, and forced to watch his skin cast into the flames.

Couldn't a happened to a nicer guy.

>>149271231
>Meet the Robinsons
Fuck the NDA, I work at Disney and this is actually in pre-planning stages.
I know this will be buried, but please look back on this in the archives so you can look at this sentence as I proudly say I Told You So.

>>149271502
Taking it long and painful instead of quick and painless men get they saw him as a serious bad enemy of them it wasn't just some sort of hatred of white people they would do in General on their enemies if captured or among themselves for capital offenses also the whole muscle thing was probably just sensationalism 2. Sensationalism and Exaggeration
Details like flaying with mussel shells and forced skin-burning appear only in later retellings. Modern scholars argue these elements were likely amplified—by writers seeking to rouse support back in England—rather than strict, verbatim reporting of Powhatan execution rituals.

>>149271514
Assuming you aren't just fucking with me, the list is merely speculative in the first place so I would not be surprised if some of these get a live-action remake.

>>149267552
This guy is a mentally disabled jewish pedophile btw

>>149271231
Treasure Planet getting a Disney Plus series that charts more of the adventures would be good, but there’s no fucking way they’ll do it.

>>149270999
>Residential Schools were no better or worse than any other schools at the time,
Yes they were cause other schools at the time weren't having huge graves
>and certainly better than letting starve in the wilderness.
Bunching them up caused more disease deaths than if they hadn't been

>>149270999
I would not call thousands of people talking about physical and sexual abuse and people being buried without gravestones or their family being tell antidoto or forcing them to not even speak the first language and go buy an English Christian name.


"Kill the Indian, Save the Man" - Carlisle Boarding School - US History - Extra History


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbRBNSjT_FQ&t=1s

>>149271581
>"Kill the Indian, Save the Man" - Carlisle Boarding School - US History - Extra History
Extra credits are hacks and thought we'd "Run out of internet"

>>149266343 (OP)
Fixed to be politically correct, the 15 thing ended up being fake.
>She only made it to 90.

>>149267552
what the actual schizophrenia is this drivel

>>149271619
see
>>149271561

he just screams yiddish into his speech to text program because he's too retarded to type

>>149271619
>>149271561
>>149271627

Multiple hours with no comments and then two people in less than 5 minute comment in order to name call and make accusations because I don't classify something as childu drag show s when he does is somehow in his mind means I support the concept or watch them for some reason no that is not a valid argument .You need to not link to your own post when your commenting on your own post.
See

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Indian_residential_school_gravesites

>>149271645
Nobody can understand what you're attempting to type beyond some vague sense that you hate White people, and want to rape children.

>>149271514
God I hope you are bullshitting me.
They already fucked up Lilo and Stich they can't do this to me again.

>>149271782
>They already fucked up Lilo and Stich they can't do this to me again.
I remember it being highly Financial successful and the movie theater I was in when I watched it being full. Also I quite enjoy the movie how did they manage to fuck it up exactly?

That's a bruh moment.

>>149270999
I disagree. Residential Schools were, in all likelihood, about as shitty as modern inner-city schools. This means the teachers actively didn't give a shit about student education or well being and resources/attention from the board were minimal. Violence was common (in part because injuns were violent savages and in part because consequences were more or less arbitrary) and punishments were harsh.
You may have a point that in the 19th century this may have been par for the course for most schools but Residential Schools made their way well into the 20th century and the relative funding, resources, and treatment of students was extremely disconnected from the 'average' school experience.