Thread 149270246

why do so many people complain about "meme face" now when the shows from the 90/2000/10s did the samething

>>149270246 (OP)
One was just making funny faces. The other is attempting to be trending with memes. It's natural vs forced.

>>149270246 (OP)
>now when the shows from the 90/2000/10s did the samething
Name 10

Why do you people always believe there's some kind of inconsistency? I've always hated forced meme faces doesn't matter from who

>>149270246 (OP)
Once upon a time, animators would draw funny faces solely to make you laugh. They felt natural because they were simple, a character that was annoyed would furrow their brows and maybe pout their lip a little.
Now animators know about memes, they try to draw the funniest face imaginable in the hopes of viewers posting it everywhere.

Both are obnoxious, and pretending AT is some sort of oldfag cartoon when internet memes were already a thing back then shows how the /co/ userbase is mostly zoomers nowadays.

>>149270270
AT one looks akin to the rage face memes from the internet

KPDH doesn't look like any meme i've ever seen

>>149270246 (OP)
I haven't kept up with anything related to that kpop show, but it's hideous to me in a way similar to Turning Red. I thought the issue with Turning Red was just the designs, but it's also the textures and animation. Makes me feel ill. A flat, 2D character is much less likely to make me feel that way.

>>149270303
There's definitely a lot of retards that are very hypocritical, moaning about meme faces when modern Spongebob does it but not when Gumball does it for example, since they love sucking its dick a lot (see pic rel, that would've been an epic classic Gumball moment but since it's Spongebob all the twittertards hate it and it ruined their childhood etc)

>>149270271
Does this count?

>>149270246 (OP)
One is Disgust, the Other is Enjoy.

>>149270377
Shut up tard

>>149270337
Cope and seethe millenoid

>>149270246 (OP)
I complained about it then too. Just because you weren't old enough to read at the time doesn't mean it didn't happen.

>>149270342
>KPDH doesn't look like any meme i've ever seen
Because it's trying to be a "new meme".

>>149270359
People on /co/ shit on Gumball for becoming Family Guy for kids and relying too much on pop culture references and internet memes.

>>149270642
I'm talking about twitter, reddit, etc. the normie cartoon autist, /co/ is a very special breed that's insular even for cartoon autist standards

>>149270270
>>149270323
How can you tell the intentions of a funny face based on how it's drawn? Is it really because everything made now has the internet in mind? How can you tell? Because the internet and memes exist now so you assume that's what people do by proxy?

>>149270246 (OP)
Finn looks dumb.
The other one makes me want to punch her in the face.

>>149270672
It's an unprovable eye test, once you see it, you see it

>>149270270
>>149270323
Dudes it is not that rewarding to have your drawing used by you to express yourself to your dumbass friends on discord

People do not have animation careers for this. You’re being narcissists

Can we just admit that Japan is way better at doing expressions?

>>149270724
So it's subjective, cool

>>149270731
And Japan is better at everything because they have no women and black people

>>149270731
Japan has long since abandoned funny faces to the extent where youngins get confused and enraged the few times that they actually do. Try posting a example that isn't 35 years old

>>149270748
The Sailor Moon author is a woman

>>149270754
Watch Bocchi the Rock. It has better and more-appealing expressions and cartoony visuals than bullshit like modern SpongeBob.

>>149270246 (OP)
This is going to sound crazy to your twitter mind rotted generation I know but sometimes people did things NOT as a meme.

>>149270748
>So it's subjective, cool
No. It becomes pretty obvious and easy to tell authorial intent.

>>149270809
Kirara doesn't do funny faces, as any extortion that could possibly be construed as ugly is a no go

>>149270246 (OP)
>Oh Lord, ROFL! Them fucking POPs man! Them fucking POPs...

>>149270731
>Strawman Strawman KonGA

Sailor moon didn't invented Animu Wild takes, have you seen it's predecessor, Goldfish Warning.

>>149270246 (OP)
I feel that context has a lot to do with these things.
I semi-know the context of the left, while I know the context of the right where she just shoves the food in her mouth like a dildo.
Therefore I don't like it because I'm not a person that's for crass humor mostly.

>>149270246 (OP)
they grew up

>>149270672
You can make this argument but it doesnt make the people who see the issue stop seeing it.

>>149270246 (OP)
because 4chan is full of furious retards with no sense of humor.

>>149270772
and she had to fight an uphill battle and be one of the highly uncommon women who can keep up. Likely also with tons of accommodations, lets be real.
Now women have to be dragged by the ankle into the professions, including in entertainment media. There just arent enough women with the convergence of interests and talents to get anywhere near parody. So they have to conscript and lower their standards. You necessarily get more bad people with this hiring strategy.

It's also a matter of framing. A wild take is usually pretty quick. But a meme face is pretty overtly dwelt on as if it's saying LOOK AT THE MEME!

>>149270731
Absolutely not. The Pokemon anime ever since Sun and Moon is one of the worst examples of forced meme faces I've ever seen.

>>149270731
Holy fuck no

>>149270246 (OP)
The kids who grew up watching GMOD videos on youtube are now working in the animation industry doing the exact same style of humour.

>>149270246 (OP)
It looks awful. They draw wacky faces for meme reasons and even modern SpongeBob is guilty of it.

>>149270731
Yes 100 percent.

>>149270731
>>149271444
>>149271462
>thinking anime faces are good

>>149270726
You are terminally retarded. Studios would kill to have a frame of their show become a meme. It’s free advertising in a world where advertising is king.

People are faggots is why.

>>149271547
I like both Anon.

>>149270246 (OP)
I’m gonna go with the one where a cute Korean girl shoves a massive phallic object down her throat

>>149270271
Billy and Mandy
KND
Chowder
Flapjack
Ren and Stimpy
Gym Partner is a Monkey
Spongebob
Simpsons
Cow and Chicken
Gumball

>>149270246 (OP)
Old good, new bad. It's really not complicated.

bump

>>149271685
>This thing is considered cute
how beauty standards have fallen

>>149270359
>not when Gumball does it for example
"T-face" is a prejorative within the fanbase for a reason, it absolutely gets criticized as well

>>149272569
>it absolutely gets criticized as well
Only on this website

>>149271558
> Studios would
1. I don’t give a fuck, unless they’re indie they don’t draw the cartoons
2. Executives want money, not your behavior on discord servers.

>>149270672
>Movie about Kpop, shit only women care about
>Women love chasing trends
>See le epic tiktoks about how female characters should be allowed to be wacky face too, guise!
>Scream at the slave caste animators to make funny face for the funny trend
It's not difficult to figure it out

>>149270672
>Is it really because everything made now has the internet in mind?
Yes
Every single piece of media is internet coded now and has that smug layer of irony that reminds you that the 4th wall barely exists anymore

>>149270246 (OP)
You see, I did not like this under either circumstance.

>>149272507
>beauty standards
>on /co/
You can't name a single thing /co/ doesn't want to fuck.

>>149272753
Not every single piece of media is Internet-coded. The reason it looks that way is because only Internet-coded slop gets mainstream popularity.

>>149270731
these are all garbage

>>149272861
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
THAT IS VERY FUNNY BUT YOU ARE BIG LIAR! Nice Try

>>149270246 (OP)
Adventure Time was always dog shit so I don't know what you're on about.

>>149271547
they can be.

>>149270246 (OP)
People just get sick of seeing the same thing over and over

>>149270246 (OP)
they sure are running that face into the ground, I got tired of it .005 of thinking of a dick joke.

There's no such thing as a meme face. Cartoons are all about exaggerating expressions and if you believe otherwise you deserve the rope.

>>149270246 (OP)
Adventure Time is the same shit, it's not that old. It's dumb meme face trash. Always was.

>>149272507
>how beauty standards have fallen
>>149272785
Seriously. Just be glad she looks human. The stuff I've seen cartoon fags lose their minds over is sickening but this is at least person shaped.

Adventure Time’s embarrassing crime was trying way too hard to make catchphrases like “mathematical!” and “algebraic!” happen.
It’s from that sort of “narwhal bacons at midnight” era of humor where just saying silly words counted as a joke.

>>149273598
Shut up and kys tranny

>>149274332
What are wacky faces?>>149273895

>>149270246 (OP)
I remember being one of the first people here to call out Gumball and Adventure Time for forcing these sort of faces. They'd be plastered all over the internet by marketing people within moments of it appearing the first time in the episode. Finn's ocean face definitely feels like the patient zero for this.

>>149272594
Nice goalpost move

>>149270246 (OP)
Overreaction to the mundane kills the impact for anything serious.

>>149274456
Gumball didn’t start “memefaces” until the later seasons
>>149270303

>>149274579
The memefaces started in season 4. Imagine using faces like this one for 3 seasons in a row. At least Adventure Time stopped it after the first season.

>>149270246 (OP)
One makes me laugh and the other just goon material.

>>149270731
Yeah

>>149274489
>goalpost move
Bro, Gumball's "fanbase" here is like 10 or maybe 20 guys. We are irrelevant. 99% of the fandom post on social media like twitter or reddit and they love and defend the meme faces.

>>149270246 (OP)
Soulless slop
>>149270731
Pure soul

>>149271685
Writers don’t even try to hide their fetishes these days do they?

I was here when that AT episode aired and a lot of people complained about it.

>>149271865
This but unironically. Here’s a meme worthy face of Jemima puddle duck for example.

>>149270246 (OP)
Left is funny. Right's lip literally turns into a labia and it is disgusting.

>>149270246 (OP)
The one on the right disturbs and offends me. The shape of the upper lip makes me want to rip it off!

>>149274727
>>149274746
Kys weebtroons

>>149274981
>Kys
I don't have a sister to kiss. Keep coping.

>>149274988
I don’t to cause i’m not a weebtroon like you

>>149274996
> I don’t to
Kek. Learn to write, monkey.

>>149270246 (OP)
Left is drawn and from a funny kids cartoon. Right is 3D and action adventure.
Besiedes right looks uncanny valley! Or like the animator were amateurs who couldnt 3D-mold properly.

bump

>>149274822
I like it

>>149270731
>tranime
Miss me with that shit

>>149270367
Isaac when he picks up Polyphemus

>>149270246 (OP)
someone took LS Mark’s words too close to heart and now we got this

>>149270731
>kinome
Based

>>149270246 (OP)
Left is neutral and just an innocent retarded gag. Right is definitely trying to appeal to horny teenagers. "lmao she openin' dat mouth for da BBC" or something like that, I dunno, you can't tell me there was no sexual intent with this.

>>149270246 (OP)
Because they want to act like they're above it all.

>>149270731
They draw cuter stuff than the West does too.

>>149277771
Kys tacotard

>>149277787
Just call me a spic you retard.
Use your racism correctly.

>>149270246 (OP)
The meme face is fine, it's the "sniffing the length of a rod-like object" that's got me feeling a bit weirded out

>>149270246 (OP)
It wasn't funny back then either.

>>149277827
It was

>>149271344
Bunch of cope

Trying to argue if an artist is intentionally making meme faces so it'll be spread on social media is like arguing if an artist is being a pretentious. You can't read this person's mind and unless they outright state it, it's just based on a feeling.

>>149270246 (OP)
>meme face

That's just how you draw when you don't know how to draw.

>>149270359
It’s actually like, every cartoon but modern SB that’s doing meme faces these days. Which is funny because the retard LS Mark coined the term by criticizing modern SpongeBob instead of a cartoon that’s actually doing it like Gumball. The difference is that SpongeBob is so expressive cause the animators have fun and want to aim for a Ren & Stimpy-like look, it’s naturally expressive animation. The difference between said naturally expressive animation and meme faces is that the prior are trying to resemble actual expressions but pushed, taking influence from stuff like R&S and Looney Tunes, meanwhile meme faces used in shit like Gumball and Digital Circus are made for the purpose of becoming reaction images and appeasing the zoomers sense of humor.

Modern SB does have some meme faces every now and then, but that’s a side effect of having a cartoonist-driven show where they allow animators to have as much fun as they want.

Like seriously while I will admit modern SB is pretty style over substance these days the animation is underappreciated, it’s one of the few cartoons these days that actually WANTS to be a cartoon.

>>149278146
to be fair, its easy to accuse spongebob trying to force meme faces because nick has been fully capitalizing on spongebob memes for a long long while now.

>>149270246 (OP)
Right is made by unfunny people trying to hard and the face itself is obnoxiously unfunny and the scene is again unfunny (the joke is heckin' fooderino is so awesome sauce) while Adventure Time is a funny show with a good amount of actually funny moments.

The only people who come to this kind of conclusion are terminally online fucks who also have inflated enough egos to think an entire medium now revolves around them.
>Pfft, these animators WISH I could use a frame of their movie for my shitposts on 4chan. Well, jokes on them.
No?

>>149270246 (OP)
I didnt like it when adventure time did it also

>>149270246 (OP)
kpop was particularly obnoxious with it. Combined with that plasticky 3dcg style it just looks horrifying. they also did it way too often, forcing it. I had to shut it off 1/3 through the movie because it was just making me angry.

I feel like i'm crazy that everyone seems to love that garbage. All it gave me was a headache.

>>149272753
>internet coded
Eat ass

>>149278146
Is this a reference to “The Day the Clown Cried”

>>149278226
>We're totally not trying to groom kids into Content Farm ElsaGate! No siree!

>UMM CHUDLY PATRIARCHY MEANS WOMEN CAN NEVER BE SILLY!!!!!!
Have these people watched one anime?

>>149271444
>>149271462
>>149271607
>>149277771
> It looks awful
Yeah, the dogshit you post does look awful.

>>149270350
>show

It’s a movie

>>149278226
Profits, thankfully Pinkie Davis keeps all the other artists in check on her episodes.
>>149279390
K that's your opinion Anon.
I don't gotta take you seriously.

>>149270731
>CHADnime
Yup.

>>149279426
Shut up thirdie

>>149271344
>one of the highly uncommon women who can keep up

Dude, some of the most iconic anime/manga series are made by women

>InuYasha, Ranma 1/2, Cardcaptor Sakura, Chobits, Fullmetal Alchemist, D. Gray-Man, Demon Slayer, Ouran High School Host Club, Black Butler, Fushigi Yuugi, etc.

>>149279414
>Ouran High School Host Club
>Black Butler
>Fushigi Yuugi
None of these are iconic

>>149279652
Meant for >>149279515

>>149279652
You should kill yourself.

>>149279678
You weebs are pathetic

>>149279741
You're a faggot feminist who likes children's cartoons. Who cares what you think lol

>>149279652
I would not be surprised if both ouran and black butler were shown dubbed on cartoon network. You being an underaged newfaggot is irrelevant.

>>149270303
Man I'm starting to get old.The nostalgia is starting to wear off and I'm starting to realize how lazy and cheap Gumball could get sometimes, many jokes were just LOOK AT THIS FUNI FACE LMAO XDDD or references to real world stuff with no further opinion and that's it that was the joke. Still a great show but not perfect by any mean. I hope the revival doesn't commit these mistakes

>>149279830
>I hope the revival doesn't commit these mistakes
Anon... did you watch the new intro?

>>149279761
>>149279829
You are insane if you thinks those manga are at the same level of Inuyasha or fucking Fullmetal Alchemist.

>>149279870
not yet, i'll watch it later. I'm guessing they didn't learn at all

>>149279761
Look who’s talking