Thread 149276435

What went wrong?

>>149276435 (OP)
It wasn't good

why did that other guy in balloonshop troon out

>>149276435 (OP)
It was good but it just dragged itself out to long, the real question is how did it interest so many parties only to be forgotten and dropped so quickly? And why hasn’t he done anything since?

I have no idea. I haven't watched it.

>>149276737
>And why hasn’t he done anything since?
Olan Rogers has.

They never gave Quinn anything interesting to do.

It's a less edgy rick and morty with le quirky facebook humor.

>Dude cookies lol!

>>149276435 (OP)
Too much fucking around, all just for comedy filler

S1 was the best, fight me

>>149276435 (OP)
Season 2 opened with a piss fight and then I turned it off.
First season was good, at least.

He should've went by The Gary instead of just Gary, also the dead gf and catboy didn't really go anywhere..

>>149276435 (OP)
Gary and the cat never fucked

>>149276821
I liked the pilot, but I have little hope anything big emerges from it...

>>149276435 (OP)
Gary could've been a nice underdog in theory but he's written so obnoxiously during season 1 and thoughout a good chunk of season 2 that it honest to god just doesn't hit as hard when things don't go his way or as satisfying when he actually scores a few victories.
Also, all of season 2 revolved around freeing Bolo, but all that build-up was rendered worthless because he only really just killed like 2 titans in season 3, then was instantly no-diffed by Lord Commander who ended up taking out the rest of them all by himself, the whole thing overall just kinda feels like misery porn by the end, even knowing the story will be wrapped up through a novel I just can't entertain the idea of the good guys finding a way to get out of their current predicament by the end of season 3 because their situation is dire to a pretty much comical state, Invictus is freed, he has an army of titans ready to hatch at any time, a mary sue dyke daughter with 0 established weaknesses also according to recent sneak peeks of the novel, Mooncake is evil now, and out of the only 2 (two) things they set up that COULD serve as trump cards against literally any of these things, one is DEAD and the other ended up being a nothingburger because the guy who made it didn't account for the possibility of a titan attacking the shitty shield from the inside.
I know it's possible for people to find enjoyment on stories as miserable as these but there really is a point where you gotta put a limit on how dire you make things for the protagonists before it starts feeling like they just have NO chances of winning.
Anyways, Sheryl is a hot piece of ass and I wish the show was more popular back when it aired solely because more porn of her would've been made that way

>>149277334
We're supposed to get the conclusion for it sometime this year as a graphic novel.

>>149276435 (OP)
got woke.

season 1 was amazing and then the friend titan was an incel.

His girlfriend was black

>>149276435 (OP)
Tribore, meandering around doing nothing, making Lil' Cato gay, general faggotry, jumping back and forth between drama and silly antics, and dedicating an entire fucking episode to Tribore doing nothing.

>>149276435 (OP)
Was originally going to be part of an adult animation block for TBS along with Close Enough. But that was cancelled due to a scandal with Louis C.K. at the time. One of the new animation shows was going to star and made by him called Cops. So Final Space got pushed back more.
TBS did renew it for 2 more seasons but it got the axe during the move to MAX like a lot of other shows.
After it was canceled the creator of the show made a video about it. He wasn't too upset about it he was just happy he got to at least make 3 season, while most people never get to make one. Supposedly they will release a comic to finish up the series.

>>149276435 (OP)
started off as comfy show then it became too serious.

>>149277681
Don't remind me of that

Fun fact, I actually spoke with Olan Rodgers. Countless times. Another fun fact, Olan insists that Mike Lazzo is the Anti Christ and the reason his show was changed countlessly from its pitch to conception was because of him. You wanna know where the Rick and Morty parallels this show creates comes from? That was Lazzo according to Olan. So, all the way back in S1, Lazzo and Olan were constantly fighting to the point where Lazzo was actually getting sick of Olan being on the payroll. Before Max, if you recall AS was going to have a sister station on TBS and Final Space along with Close Enough were suppose to be the flagship shows on that station. Then HBO Max happened and all discussion of Close Enough disappeared for several years so in exchange, Final Space was then sent to find its own niche on the actual AS channel which was never part of the plan

Final Space was suppose to be the space themed show that would take up the space when Rick and Morty finished its season. The reason weird comedy segments kept getting segwayed in between serious episodes? That was also Lazzo

S2 is completely nothing how Olan wrote it originally. Todd was the main antagonist of S2 and literally 90% of his plot was written out from the show. Olan had a 6 season plan and he kept having to write things "out of sequence" because Lazzo said "No. I want more gags. I want like a 1/3 of all your Episodes to have gags."

It really showed the Family Guy effect that was bleeding into AS because of what Rick and Morty became it was already flanderized long before Roiland was kicked from the show.

>>149278733
that sucks, you should've asked him some balloonshop questions

>>149278785

Here is how S2 was suppose to go. You know those weird "robot helpers" that were on HUE's ship whose purpose was to keep Gary from escaping and keep the ship from getting too damaged? In the Garbage ship, HUE transfers his consciousness into one of them to help better assist Gary because the Team is separated throughout the corners of the galaxy. There was gonna be a long period of time where the crew was just gonna be Gary, Lil Cado, Mooncake, Hue and whenever it would have happened originally Ash and Fox.

Todd built a gladiator arena and was forcing Lil Cado to fight for his amusement to bait Gary into coming to find him and that was when Todd would explain his hatred for Gary. Im guessing Fox would have been a contestant in this which would make more sense then him being a random starship racer where theyre racing for one of the keys.

Todd also had a stronger connection to Oreksis whom he pledged his soul is exchange for Gary's life.

>>149276435 (OP)
>Ending every season in a twist/event that made the previous season's plot largely irrelevant. >Ending a season on a cliffhanger when you knew you were probably getting cancelled.
>Not understanding that that fucking alien with lots of eyes wasn't funny.

>>149278910

I dont like how they handled Ash. It was 100% Avacado's fault and it reminded me of that scene where in the looped flashback of Gary seeing Avacado explode himself to save his boy, Gary deliberately goes back to kill the Lord Commander which alters the timeline in the worse possible way after he tells him "Avacado is an unstable variable."

Avacado's crash out is what led to Ash killing Mooncake and summoning Invictus.

olan can't be funny without josh and thomas

>>149276435 (OP)
I really loved Final Space, it was a little light-hearted and silly but had great atmosphere and worldbuilding and Lord Commander was a highlight for me, but the biggest flaw with it to me was the pacing after Season 1. The first season was great, on pace, serialised, told a story, had an arc, hyped a mystery, ran fantastic.

Then Olan got greenlit for like, 2 more seasons and decided "Woah boy time to milk this for as long as possible, 15 seasons and a movie baby!" and hit the breaks on ANY kind of progression, slowed the pace down, wrote off all the stuff that happened as unimportant, made it more episodic, each episode was a gag of the day, find the maguffin that'll totally be relevant at the season finale maybe. You had as much story-progression in the ENTIRE of Season 2 than you would have had in 1, maybe 2 episodes of Season 1. Each season barely moved the dail on what was going on in the overarching plot.

He could have had a fantastic 2-4 season saga to tell, but wanted it to be the next Rick and Morty and because of it, shat the bed with two slow, boring seasons and got cancelled leaving too many open questions.

The same thing happened to the Manga Record of Ragnarok, which had a fantastic first few chapters with the first couple of the 13 battles taking 2-3 chapters each, then suddenly hit a threshhold where the author/producer realised "Wait, this is popular, this is the hot new thing? Pump the breaks lets milk this!" and now the battles take 10-12 chapters and everything is slow, boring and drawn out as fuck instead of fun interesting and intense, then the Manga basically died in obscurity.

At least the bounty hunter milf was hot.

>>149276435 (OP)
It was just fodder for R&M fans until it got a consistent release schedule.

>>149278733
So >>149276821 is the show Olan originally wanted to make?

>>149276737
He got a restrictive licensing agreement with Warner that allowed him to do one physical-only self-published graphic novel only available from a website he owns, and not through Kickstarter or any other sales platform, without any associated animation or voice work. He's been working on it for two years now and a black and white version is almost ready to be sent to the printers.

The color edition currently has 38,493 preorders, and the Midnight Edition has 2,491 preorders, all at $125 per book.

>>149280416
It is funny how FS got canned right before Rick and Morty started getting near yearly seasons

Reminder that Olan follows an account that posts suggestive Garycato content quite often

>>149281414
>Viewing gay shipart of characters voiced by you and your irl best friend

>>149276435 (OP)
As far as scifi goes it's derivative of much better older series like Farscape and Blake's 7. The comedy consisted almost entirely of various flavors of characters being obnoxious/annoying and rarely anything more than that. And important story beats for plot and character development were rushed and not well thought out, like Garry and Quinn's relationship, or the beginning of every episode in season 1 teasing the season finale.

>>149277668
pffft like that's ever come out.

>>149276435 (OP)
Main character. S1 E1.

>>149281695
https://x.com/FinalSpace/status/1941237710594900274

Happy Final Space Friday!
Big updates! The Midnight Edition sample proof is just four hours away should have it in my hands tomorrow or Monday!
Making great progress on the Color Edition and locking in on a plan for shipping logistics with
@GungnirBooks
.
Inch by inch, we’re getting closer!
PRE-ORDER: http://finalspaceends.com
- Olan

Gary's mom was hot milf but she was also a total bitch and she needs to get raped & impregnated her non-stop.

>>149277203
>S1 was the best, fight me
I won't. Final Space should've been a one-season show. They peaked with the use of those cold opens where Gary was gradually losing oxygen in space

I blame Ashley Burch.

>>149281799
I can forgive literally anything a woman does as long as she's hot. Aside form the lantern jaw anyway

>>149276435 (OP)
They should have seen season 3 as an act of god and tried to wrap it up.

That is the biggest sin. How is that comicbook continuation going anyway?

>>149281799
Her getting impregnated is what got us into this! Doing it again won't help!

>>149278825
bruh, i was talking about balloonshop. what the fuck are you talking about?

>>149282438
Per his last video update on X a proof of the black & white version is in transit to him in Nashville from Indianapolis.
>>149281766

Apparently there's bonus content in the current version as QR code links (bullshit if you ask me but I'll still take it) with the possibility of a "definitive edition" where it'll be in print.

>>149276435 (OP)
Not enough Avocato bara

>>149281454
Fujos are sadly the only kind of people that still talk about this show outside of here nowadays

>>149276435 (OP)
confusing as fuck, i dont know what it was or what it was supposed to be

>>149279055
Damn

Guys? There are only 18 books left and less than 5 days to order.
One of us needs to buy this so it can be dumped on /co/.

>>149283340
It will be dumped anyways. Olan even encouraged people to scan it and post it online because he got licence for only 1 batch of books. They won't be made anymore after this.

Also since he doesn't have the rights to post it in digital format himself he found a loophole that allows him to do that by making the whole thing a motion comic like this: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLao2yZqE5g

But it's probably going to take a long time for +120 pages. He also talked about not being allowed to do voice acting, hopefully he finds a workaround for it as well.

Kudos to him being so passionate about it he's really trying his best.

>>149276435 (OP)
I imagine the creator/lead writer has some sort of autism and, despite some good ideas, cannot self-regulate bad ones.

The "le funny face" to serious moments was a bit annoying.

Decent enough show though, had some really good music and set pieces. Making the one eye girl into shaved hair girlboss was dumb.

Also found it odd how the shape shifter adopted father was bad because he just was chud but his space thief mom that abandoned him was good.

>>149283480
>hopefully he finds a workaround for it as well.
Is that homestuck dub group from 10 years ago still around or did they collapse under drama/real life? I feel like a fandub without Olan's involvement would be the safest path.

>>149276435 (OP)
they might actually return according to the creator. once the graphic novel is finished up.

Terrible show, massively annoying lead character, tone all over the place, pandering to reddit.

It deserved to fail.

>>149276435 (OP)
> eceleb slop
Except unlike smiling friends which is shitty lowbrow comedy this tried to be a space epic.

>>149276435 (OP)
>What went wrong?
Couldn't commit to any character deaths.

>>149284778
Well, he made peace with them both, so…

>>149285433
>tone all over the place

It killed itself with whedon'esque nonstop quips. A serious moment would happen, and the MC would yell WHAT THE CRAP?! or do some other stupid whacky thing and ruin it. This happened every single time.

>>149278733
I worked on the show for a while and I absolutely know this is true because your story is about Olan blaming somebody else for the show's issues. He would do that nonstop with every aspect when he was the creator and showrunner. His excuses don't even make sense. He would blame the editor for picking bad takes that made his voice acting seem annoying, when he could just tell them to pick different ones or redo it. He ha
also kept blaming TBS for telling him to write the show a certain way, but a better writer would find a way to incorporate their notes and still make a good show. And a better person wouldn't whine about it all the time like he does.

He was also just really rude and cold to the crew. Had absolutely zero interest in talking to the artists until it was time to record behind-the-scenes footage for his youtube channel, and then suddenly he'd be all high-fives and smiles.

>>149276435 (OP)
Wasn't it just written off as a loss and cancelled for tax reasons by some executive?

>>149276435 (OP)
Bauhaus insecure comedy slop instead of paying money for a real animation style and trying to have some actual ambition and sincerity as a straightforward scifi series without having to drown itself in le whacky noodle faggotry.

>>149276435 (OP)
>What went wrong?
It wasn't Tarantula.

>>149276435 (OP)
No character would SHUT THE FUCK UP and stop trying to be funny when it was dramatic moment time

>>149285962
how about you don't fucking lie on the internet you fucking worm
olan Rogers is a hero in this household. end of story

>>149276435 (OP)
The fuck even went RIGHT?

>>149276435 (OP)
tldr; season 3
s1 sucks until the last 4 episodes, s2 is actually decent since Garry isn't retarded and has much less random humour (also the annoying robot becomes the funniest character out of nowhere). S3 is grim dark nonsense that I barely remember (literally was half asleep for the finale) and the it could all be boiled down to like 3 sentences.
Honestly if he made a s4 wouldn't even watch it because it'd be shit

>>149278733
pretty funny give s2 is only actually good season, lmao. also good, Todd fucking sucked

>>149276435 (OP)
I feel bad for this guy's show failing but the art style just sucks to look at, It has the soulless vibe of netflix

>>149285189
Good

>>149285189
Hoping for that

>>149276435 (OP)
It committed to too many unfunny jokes like the cookies or the piss.

>>149276435 (OP)
I heard good things, decided to watch it and in like 2 episodes I couldn't get pass how insufferable the main character was
>noooo bro, just watch 2 more episodes bro! Just two more and it gets good
Same thing with breaking bad, I watched one season and a half and I just didn't care for the plot.
I feel like this cartoon was made on the fly. The writers were nit finished making it, the cat character was a villain or something and then by the next episode I'm supposed to be invested in his story whhile the main character just babbles unfunny garbage in the background.
Like, what?? finish your script before start recording the lines

>>149281454
And anus huffing art at that.

>>149276435 (OP)
We didn't see Gary's mom naked.

>>149276435 (OP)
It offends mine eye