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Anonymous No.149283975 >>149283989 >>149283991 >>149284000 >>149284046 >>149284109 >>149284307 >>149286294 >>149286723 >>149286905 >>149286918 >>149286921 >>149287130 >>149289722 >>149292061 >>149293550 >>149297291
Whats are his greatest achievements besides banging starfire?
Anonymous No.149283987 >>149284031 >>149287130
Banging Barbara
Anonymous No.149283989 >>149284031
>>149283975 (OP)
Banging Batgirl
Anonymous No.149283991 >>149284031
>>149283975 (OP)
Fumbling Starfire and getting with Barbara Gordon.
Anonymous No.149284000 >>149284031
>>149283975 (OP)
Banging Babs.
Anonymous No.149284004
steering damian away from evil
Anonymous No.149284031 >>149284111 >>149285044 >>149285794 >>149286869
>>149283987
>>149283989
>>149283991
>>149284000
>Banging a whore is an achievement
Anonymous No.149284046 >>149284056
>>149283975 (OP)
Getting raped
Anonymous No.149284056
>>149284046
But enough about the joker
Anonymous No.149284109 >>149293225
>>149283975 (OP)
>Made Detective Comics a successful comic anthology. Justified the dedicated Batman comic.
>Became the most published character in golden age comics.
Are we talking character, story, power levels... what?
Anonymous No.149284111 >>149284386
>>149284031
Sure is, ask your dad
Anonymous No.149284307 >>149284598 >>149287401
>>149283975 (OP)
In the sweltering hot summers of 1992, 1993, and 2004...
Anonymous No.149284386
>>149284111
My dad is the whore
Anonymous No.149284598
>>149284307
Check your dates.
>1982 - Dala
>1988 - Raven
>1992 - Mirage
>2004 - Tarantula
>2007 - Liu
Anonymous No.149285044 >>149285753
>>149284031
But enough about Starfire
Anonymous No.149285753 >>149292035
>>149285044
Starfire is only likes virginal straight sex using missionary position
Anonymous No.149285794 >>149285857
>>149284031
hating just cause you aint done it yet
Anonymous No.149285857 >>149286193
>>149285794
Enough about yourself
Anonymous No.149285896 >>149286679 >>149286722 >>149294340
Having almost 400 solo issues including his time as Batman and not having any good recurring villains or supporting cast
Anonymous No.149285906
Banging Batman
Anonymous No.149286193 >>149286350
>>149285857
projecting retard is projecting again, what a shock
Anonymous No.149286294
>>149283975 (OP)
banging her again
Anonymous No.149286350
>>149286193
Like I said, enough about yourself
Anonymous No.149286679
>>149285896
This has been talked about to death. It's an editorial problem.
Anonymous No.149286688
Dickfags always say what a great leader he is but I feel like he doesn't many team runs or events that actually show that

The biggest highlights of it are Obsidian Age and when he stopped the JL from beating the YJ gen's asses sometime in early Johns TT.

Beast World and Dark Crisis could've been IT, but he ran to the JL for help in the former and the latter was so shit I didn't read the ending so he may have done something there
Anonymous No.149286722 >>149286745
>>149285896
Zanni is good villain

Superman level villain
Anonymous No.149286723 >>149289859
>>149283975 (OP)
Not really an achievement but something I noticed the other day
The "Boy Blunder" cover trope where every other issue showed him getting his ass beat hasn't happened once since Didio was fired.
So, there's that....
Anonymous No.149286745 >>149293245
>>149286722
He has good villains, they just don't use them. Or they kill them. Or they never bring them back in a major role till they get used as canon fodder or background villains by hacks.
Anonymous No.149286869
>>149284031
Exactly. Sleeping with Barbara is better by the virtue that Kori is canonically a slut.
Anonymous No.149286905 >>149287130 >>149287194 >>149287251
>>149283975 (OP)
You guys make these threads all the time, what did comicbook dick grayson do to piss off so much of this board? I just think of him as a decent middleground between martial arts comics and hero comics.
Anonymous No.149286918
>>149283975 (OP)

Was a better Batman than Bruce (as in more interesting to read about, better at his job, and better with Damian) for an all too brief time
Anonymous No.149286921
>>149283975 (OP)
A lot of his best achievements is when he was Robin
Anonymous No.149287130
>>149283975 (OP)
Starfire was literally created to be his manic pixie dream girl so it's hardly an achievement. I'd say, landing a solid design as Nightwing, even if it look so-so in certain artsyle, is a bigger achievement.
>>149283987
You joke but tanking the bullet that is Barbara so nobody else has to is an achievement.
>>149286905
You say that like he isn'tone of these character who really get ham-fisted and wanked for existing everywhere these days. It's nothing unusual. That's say, this feels more about taking the piss on Dickfags and Babsfags.
Anonymous No.149287194
>>149286905
He had an aggressively mid book for 3 and a half years that was praised by some fans, casuals, and the industry as one of the best books being published, and from 2022 and 2023 DC pretended that Dick was the bestest most important hero in the whole DCU with Dark Crisis that ended up bombing spectacularly. The Titans book being mid to horrible despite the Didio excuse not being applicable and DC originally trying to push them as the JL replacements didn't help.
Anonymous No.149287251
>>149286905
It's not just /co/ who keeps shitting on the character.

There's a large portion of his fans who have gotten really bold and arrogant due to Didio getting ousted and Taylor's run having been popular. Fans of other characters/books have taken to not liking the character and reminding his fans that the overwhelming majority of his solo material is mediocre at best and shit at worst with the good stuff being an anomaly.
Anonymous No.149287305
Surviving Batman.
Anonymous No.149287395 >>149287499
The people that shit on the character don't actually read his books. The current run is good, and only one post in this whole thread mentioned it.
Anonymous No.149287401 >>149293631
>>149284307
Was Dick a part of the 92 crew???
Anonymous No.149287499
>>149287395
They sure haven't read ALL his books. It's not exactly a surprise given DC publish slop most of all, that some characters get way too many comics or appereances, and that we're talking people who are not found of the character. Blame DC for being mediocre writers/editors or for shoving these characters in books where half the readership consider them not wanted/needed. Ultimately, every Robins or Batman has to deal with the pros & cons of their popularity.
Anonymous No.149287698 >>149287800 >>149287907
I just assume all Nightwing haters prefer one of his legacy characters and wish he was out of the way. You know, like the Tim fans that dream of the 00s.
Anonymous No.149287800
>>149287698
Sounds retarded but okay. I've met more Dickfags who hate Tim than I've met Timfags who hate Dick. The only fanbase who actively wish Dick didn't exist are Batfags as far as I can tell.
Anonymous No.149287907 >>149288256 >>149289769
>>149287698
As a Jason fan and a Dick hater, I just want Dick and anyone whoโ€™s super close to him kept the hell away from Jason. Iโ€™m so fucking tired of his face popping up in every story like heโ€™s the center of the damn universe.
Anonymous No.149288256 >>149288356
>>149287907
Why do they keep partnering Jason up with Dick's ex-girlfriends?
Anonymous No.149288356 >>149288379 >>149289769
>>149288256
At this point, itโ€™s clearly just to humiliate Jason. No way theyโ€™re not aware of what theyโ€™re doing.
Anonymous No.149288379 >>149288444
>>149288356
Wdym? Do they talk about Dick being better in the sack or something?
Anonymous No.149288444 >>149288512
>>149288379
They donโ€™t have to. Just constantly giving him Dickโ€™s exes is enough to make Jason look like a pathetic backup option.
Anonymous No.149288512
>>149288444
Always the maid never the bride
Anonymous No.149288588 >>149289135 >>149291605
Just the other day I was wondering how close Dick was to having been Nightwing for longer than he was Robin, so I checked the dates and it's a lot farther than I thought. He was Robin for 44 years and became Nightwing 41 years ago, but if you subtract from that his time as Batman and "Agent 37" that's like another five or six years. Still almost a decade to go for his adult identity to be the bigger part of his existence, and that's assuming he doesn't get turned into something else or killed off or rebooted back into Robin somehow until then.
Anonymous No.149289135 >>149289794 >>149291605
>>149288588
>that's assuming he doesn't get turned into something else
Nah most of the weird ass decisions was Didio agreeing to shit because he thought Nightwing was boring. The current editorial likes him or at least is aware enough that his fanbase is rabid and will attack them if they do more weird shit.
Also most of the post Didio era so far is editorial "overcorrecting" on stuff like Dick being glazed to high heaven, Cass being main Batgirl, and Barry being mostly regulated to the background.

>or killed off or rebooted back into Robin somehow until then.
Again, new editorial won't let the former happen because they don't want to be attacked. Also Dick's book is too steady a seller for them to take major risks on it when all their non-batfamily and non-Absolute books sell like shit and/or get no fanfare, and the rest of the Robins/batgirls are too popular to get rid of for DickRobin.
Anonymous No.149289614
I like how only one person actually answered OP's question and even then they were halfhearted about it lmao
Anonymous No.149289722 >>149289885
>>149283975 (OP)
DC's best spy.
Anonymous No.149289769 >>149289939 >>149290146 >>149293181
>>149287907
>>149288356
Neither Helena nor Babs were created for Dick. They were given to him just because he was among the first heroes created and because he has so many fanboys. Starfire was just a teammate and Jason had no feelings toward her.
Anonymous No.149289794 >>149289858 >>149289949
>>149289135
>he thought Nightwing was boring
>thought
He IS boring. Being almost 90 years old and achieve nothing of worth despite all the pushing and shilling he received is pathetic.
Anonymous No.149289858
>>149289794
Do you always see crying here?
Anonymous No.149289859 >>149289930
>>149286723
He was a damsel in distress in Taylor's run, tho.
Anonymous No.149289885
>>149289722
Grayson would easily be adapted for an HBO show.
Anonymous No.149289930
>>149289859
Yeah, that was horrible. Taylor was there for the pats on the back and the likes on Twitter for being so progressive, he didn't give a damn about the character.
There were some cool moments, but that was 99% due to Redondo's art.
Anonymous No.149289939 >>149289991 >>149290021
>>149289769
Lobdell's original idea for RHATO was Jason and Roy basically passing Kory back and forth.

The second issue had Roy implying they both fucked her.

The massive backlash towards Kory's characterization and general sexualization had DC and Lobdell scrambling to try to fix it, so he dropped that idea and put her and Roy in an exclusive relationship despite Roy being a sleeze in the first issue, wanting to use Kory's memory loss as a way to fuck her.
Anonymous No.149289949 >>149290002 >>149290102
>>149289794
Holy hyperbole Batman! This anon has no appreciation for Dickโ€™s long and storied legacy in pop culture.
Anonymous No.149289991
>>149289939
In the second issue we literally had Jason flirting with Isabel who later on became his girlfriend and Jason literally telling Roy that Kory wasn't his girl. Also, second issue was already done before the first one was released. Dick fans making a fanfiction about how the story was changed due to the backlash was nothing but bs.
Anonymous No.149290002
>>149289949
>legacy
>in pop culture
Hahaha
Anonymous No.149290021
>>149289939
>Lobdell's original idea for RHATO was Jason and Roy basically passing Kory back and forth
No, it wasn't.
Anonymous No.149290102 >>149290118
>>149289949
Robin is easily the third most important character in DC, especially in the first 20/30 years. When Titans was the only thing beating Claremont's X-Men, and the character needed to grow up and let go of Batman's hand (Batman Family had already happened, but now it was definitive), he became Nightwing and DC had to create a second Robin to go hand in hand with Batman (Jason appears to be a clone, but the public rejects it). When Titans fell, Nightwing returned to the Batman editorial office, which had grown, now the third Robin had a series and Nightwing got his own. Since then, Dick has always had a series to call his own, whether as Nightwing, Agent 37 or Batman (even after Bruce returned, Batman and Detective Comics continued to be Dick's series until the New 52). In the New 52, Nightwing became Grayson, probably the best comic of the New 52. After Rebirth, Nightwing, alongside Batman and Superman, was the only comic with two monthly issues and Deluxe Editions. This lasted until the infamous Ric Grayson, who despite being horrible, killed the Titans comic (because without Nightwing and Flash, no one reads that crap), was unable to end Nightwing. It was the opposite, Didio fell, Lobdell lost the job he had for being friends with the editors and Jurgens was put in place to improve sales a little until things got back to normal.
Apart from other media, movies, animated shows and video games.
But he will deny everything, laugh (which is a bitch's argument).
Anonymous No.149290118 >>149290272
>>149290102
>Robin is easily the third most important character in DC
Lmao, why he still has no movie or series of his own, then? What about Nightwing? If he is super important, why they didn't make a movie for him or at least a TV show or even a cartoon?
Anonymous No.149290146 >>149291605
>>149289769
You know, this is why I wasn't bothered by Tim/Babs in Arkham games or Bruce/Babs in the cartoon. His fanboys seems to forget that Babs (and Helena) are BAT characters.
Anonymous No.149290272 >>149290331 >>149290391
>>149290118
How not, are you stupid? Robin has been with Batman since his first adaptations.
Even though the character is popular, there is a reason they made a clone of Dick when he became Nightwing, he is still a Batman character. Teen Titans has 5 characters, Robin is the main one, the live action Titans was supposed to be a show just about Nightwing, but Warner ruined everything by turning it into Titans. He is in games. He could have more, but Warner is the studio that took decades to make a Justice League movie, it was shit, they made a new 4 hour version, and it was even worse.
Anonymous No.149290331 >>149290425
>>149290272
As sidekick for Batman. He has nothing of his own for this so called pop culture phenomenon. Batman villains left a bigger mark than he does and even Catwoman had couple of movies of her own.
Anonymous No.149290391 >>149290513
>>149290272
You are giving him more value than he actually has. Dick isn't as popular as you think and even Jason who barely has anything seem to surpass him in popularity.

Robin is an important part of Batman mytho, but he is nothing without batman and Nightwing is even lesser character than Robin.
Anonymous No.149290425 >>149290467
>>149290331
>even Catwoman had couple of movies of her own.
The character doesn't work without Batman.
Invent something new for the movie.
The movie sucks.
The movie is a failure.
Anonymous No.149290467 >>149290500
>>149290425
None of them do, but they still had more confidence in her than they ever did with Robin.
Anonymous No.149290500
>>149290467
What confidence, man. They didn't even use the character's original story. They created some new nonsense. They thought they would achieve something easy with the name, and they failed. They tried and failed, proving that they were wrong.
Anonymous No.149290513 >>149290578 >>149291012
>>149290391
>even Jason who barely has anything seem to surpass him in popularity.
How do you measure that? Where is Jason? He doesn't even have a monthly comic book.
Anonymous No.149290578
>>149290513
People interest I would say. Despite as you said, he has no book, people still talk about him and create fanwork for him.
Anonymous No.149291012
>>149290513
>He doesn't even have a monthly comic book.
Comics are bad metric to gauge popularity. A lot of characters with monthly books aren't nearly as popular as some of the ones without. Popularity of their mainstream appearances as well as how much discussion and fan content they generate are better indicators of a character's success.
Anonymous No.149291605
>>149288588
>>149289135
They're never going to reboot him into Robin because they can do a retroactive story without any of the baggage.

>>149290146
It's the Babs fans that dislike her being reduced to the Bat-bicycle and Dickbabs got a lot of flak for shit that went down in the final Babsgirl run and his appearance in Batgirls.
Anonymous No.149292035
>>149285753
English, saar
Anonymous No.149292061
>>149283975 (OP)
Getting people to care about him
Anonymous No.149292116
this thread does not have enough pictures of his butt, his greatest achievement.
Anonymous No.149292269 >>149292462
Pitch a Nightwing movie.
Anonymous No.149292330
Nightwing was just a cynical self insert for the kids reading batman
Anonymous No.149292462
>>149292269
nightwing must go undercover at a strip club because somehow this will thwart the joker
Anonymous No.149293181
>>149289769
That doesnโ€™t make Jason look any better for banging or trying to bang Dickโ€™s leftovers.
Anonymous No.149293225 >>149293673
>>149284109
>>Became the most published character in golden age comics.
How? Did he also have a lot of solo adventures?
Anonymous No.149293245
>>149286745
Or they are given to Batman
Anonymous No.149293550 >>149294273 >>149294362
>>149283975 (OP)
Having multiple runs and a following despite never having even a single worthwhile comic is his greatest achievement.
Anonymous No.149293631
>>149287401
KWAB
Anonymous No.149293673
>>149293225
I was curius too, and here is what the internet gave me: https://www.cbr.com/batman-robin-golden-age-more-comics/
The answer is Robin has a small lead because Star Spangled Comics gave him more solos than Batman had in his early appearances.
Anonymous No.149294273
>>149293550
Are we pretending Black Mirror doesn't exist?
Anonymous No.149294340 >>149294388 >>149294389
>>149285896
>not having any good recurring villains
what about Deathstroke
Anonymous No.149294362
>>149293550
That's not true, but if I put it here, will you accept it or say no? Because that's like arguing with a pigeon.
Anonymous No.149294388 >>149294446
>>149294340
Dickfags are desperate for Deathstroke to be a Dick villain, but he's a Titans villain and never had that much beef specifically with Dick in his most iconic run (NTT)
Anonymous No.149294389
>>149294340
This run looks really good, but it sucks.
Anonymous No.149294446 >>149294637 >>149294675
>>149294388
Nightwing's rivalry only began to happen after Joey's death.
Pretending that this doesn't exist today shows a bit of desperation. Does the character hurt you?
Anonymous No.149294637
>>149294446
>Pretending that this doesn't exist today shows a bit of desperation
This is a problem with Deathstroker in general, most often than not, he is used as a generic merc
Anonymous No.149294675 >>149295976
>>149294446
Joey is still alive and well, and the conflict between them ended many years ago.
Anonymous No.149295976 >>149296442
>>149294675
It didn't really end so much as it was ignored. You know, because the Teen Titans and Bludhaven never existed in the New 52, and all Slade's kids were still alive?

Anyway, the last big event was all about reminding people Nightwing v Deathstroke was a thing. It's alive and well.
Anonymous No.149296034
Being a rape victim
Anonymous No.149296442
>>149295976
Joey was alive both before and after the New 52, and nobody gives a fuck about Grant.
>Dick Crisis
That whole thing was just DC desperately trying to make Deathstroke Dickโ€™s villain again, even though Slade has always been more interesting without him.
Anonymous No.149297291
>>149283975 (OP)
Being able to have a 100 reply thread with 0 people actually mentioning any achievements.