Thread 149289367

Why does Buster Bunny feel like a side character in whatever he's in despite being the starring character for two shows?

>>149289367 (OP)
This thread is gonna go nowhere so I'll just ask why didn't TMS work on it? Is there someone out there who can explain that?

Who's Buster Bunny?

>>149289414
A character from Arthur, I think.

>>149289414
Blue faggot

>>149289412
Do they even still animate cartoons?

>>149289414
he's a character from the 90s that also appears in a reboot that aired for a week then got cancelled

>>149289367 (OP)
plucky was always the main character

>>149289367 (OP)
I didn't watch the reboot, but in the original, Buster kind of had the kind of generic characterization that would later become popularized by characters like Bella from Twilight, where their personality is so malleable that nearly anyone could self-insert as the main character. Buster's main characterization was that he was the cool guy who wanted to live up to his idol, Bugs. Anyone with half an ego could put themselves in his shoes. Then, most of his interactions with others were reactionary to their strong personalities, especially his counterpart, Babs. So yeah, that all can lead to him feeling like the side character in his own show.

If anything I think Looniversity Buster is the only upgrade (besides Sweetie since she was a shit non-entity before) because they tried to give him an interested and independently personality that's not just inferior Bugs and is not overshown by Babs or Plucky or anyone else

>>149289367 (OP)
In the real TT he was the straight man to Babs, who was the real main character. In the shitboot, he is just boring because you know why.

There.

>>149289836
>1079 vertical resolution
the fuck

>>149290276
Lol that reminds me of when iTunes used to encode videos in 1916x1076 sometimes

>>149289367 (OP)
Chuck Jones himself said that Bugs almost fell into the "mickey mouse" syndrome of becoming the least interesting Looney Tunes because some shorts and specials would write his only personality trait as "the main one". This is what happened to Buster, specially when it was becoming obvious that the writers preferred writing Babs, Elmyra and Plucky episodes. Almost all of the most memorable TT episodes star Plucky, fucking baby Plucky had a bigger impact in the show than Buster

>>149290440
>Chuck Jones himself said that Bugs almost fell into the "mickey mouse" syndrome of becoming the least interesting Looney Tune
Chuck Jones caused this himself by making him the invincible mary sue lead character who never loses even if starting shit directly

>>149289367 (OP)
>>149289507
>>149290440
No wonder he suffered from depression near the end of the show.
>Thirteensomething: forgetting to clean his house for weeks
>Two Tone Town: terrified of the possibility of his show ending
>the Christmas special: thinks of jumping out of the show after his Christmas play goes wrong
You just want to give him a pat on the head then tell him he’s still not that funny.

>>149289367 (OP)
In addition to the other reasons mentioned, the producers didn’t get along with Charlie Adler as well as they did with Tress MacNeille.

That may have not been Adler’s fault; Ruegger said the part was hard to cast, which suggests they didn’t really know what he was going to be.

Anyway it all blew up when Spielberg, Ruegger, Andrea Romano decided not to use Adler on Animaniacs and he quit playing Buster with only a few episodes left to record.

>>149289836
>Homosexual opinion

>>149289836
>Gay opinion

>>149289836
>Straight opinion

>>149289414
Imagine Bugs Bunny, but gayer

>>149289367 (OP)
Obligatory

>>149289836
>Bisexual opinion

>>149289412
OH FAMICOM!

>>149291327
At least they didn’t have any problem with Shirley.

Famicom thread.

Want to post an edit, so bump.

>>149292729
Heh unexpected

>>149292860
Nobody expects the meat eating cat!

They were pussies for not having them start dating when they teased hard that was their preference
They made the bunnies twins for nothing

>>149290823
Then he teamed up with David Feiss, who also worked on Tiny Toon and shat on it on I Am Weasel. So funny.
>>149291327

>>149289412
They wanted to, and planed to do a segment, but Erin Gibson forced them to do a Rick and Morty anime no one asked for which bombed and now TMS is Netflix Japan's D-unit due to how well Baki the Grappler did.
>>149289414
Biggest character in the 90s.
>>149289464
They just did a Rick and Morty spin off that bombed, Sakamoto Days bailed them out from that.

>>149293276
This was so early on in production that Buster still had the open jacket instead of the closed hoody.

>>149293276
Why dont you just fucking die already

>>149293325
>Not seeing proof.

>>149293330
Say that again and I'll kill you

>>149293276
HE ARRIVED!

>>149289367 (OP)
Cause in the original timeline before the dimensional merge called the Crisis on Infinite Earths happened, the successful prime-time cartoons with endless seasons were Tiny Toons, Batman: The Animated Series, Cathy, The Simpsons, and American Dad.

>>149293460
More like Tiny Toons, Bobby's World, Animaniacs and Laura Haruna.

>>149289367 (OP)
He's off brand bugs. Babs at least brought in female options.

Tiny toons threads are always a gamble, either you’re getting boomer furries or a pedo schizo’s fan fiction where it was the biggest cultural phenomenon along with some generic brown haired girl with a hamster came along.

>>149293137
I wish

>>149293659
The solution is have more anons watch the damn show. Maybe a few episodes at least. BUT WHO WILL DO THAT.

>>149293659
Not a pedo, drawings are not real and the girls are aged up.
Also theres no fan fiction.

>>149294203
they don't need to be aged up. they are already adults in the reboot

>>149290342
>iTunes used to encode videos in 1916x1076 sometimes

>>149293659
Tiny Toons threads are always some of my favorites on the board because there is so much random shit that always happens and you don’t know what you’re getting this time
Always stupid as fuck, always entertaining

>>149289498
They should've done the based choice. Make Babs the character apprentice for Bugs, Buster never existed and the show was lead by Babs and Plucky.

>>149295112
That is not a bad idea at all. Too bad I always liked Buster's straight man routine to keep Babs grounded. And since I have the time machine, I made sure Buster would exist in the show no matter what.

>>149295112
But I can see why they didn't want to do it. It would make the "MC" a female character. And this was back in the 90's.

>>149293137
Plucky was built for Babs buns.

>>149289507
Like in Hey Arnold. I hate characters like that. They turn Mary Sue because they don't have a thing of their own going for them.

>>149295423
Well Arnold and later Phineas were allowed to misbehave in their first seasons, but lost that when literally every other character around them proved to be more interesting. I guess Buster falls into that camp too, especially in the original.

>>149294673
>Enter tiny toons threads
>halfway it turns into a thread about that hamtaro bitch

If I had a nickel for every time that happened…

>>149290507
Cecil Turtle mogs Bugs pretty hard in a few episodes. Plus the Gremlin on the plane fucks him up the whole episode.

>>149295243
At least in the 90’s, it wouldn’t have been turned into another argument to feed culture war tantrums.

>>149295243
Yeah. I hate to be the person who says "sexist" or whatever but it's clear they wanted Babs as the main character but no studio would allow a female lead when Looney Tunes barely had females and none in comedic roles (and they wouldn't let Plucky be co-lead because the dynamic of who they are inspired by would make it still clear Babs is lead) so Buster had to come in as main character.
However it's clear they didn't want him to be and had no real idea what to do with him, which is why he started being phased out (to Adler's rage and eventually quitting) while they low-key made Babs the solo lead at the end like they intended

>>149298990
Female cartoon characters in that era were already breaking archtypes. Babs wasn't just a eule 63 version of Buster. She had her own thing going on but they weren't based enough to have an actual female "MC" yet.

>>149295112
We would be robbed of sexy blue furry shota bunny butt

>>149300128
Probably why they made 2 rabbit characters instead of 1. Lola wasn't around yet at this time.

>>149289367 (OP)
It's the same for Bugs in a lot of cartoons, if you think about it. And Buster was Bugs lite. Elmer is a lot closer to being the star of the cartoons he's in, while Bugs is playing the antagonist.

>>149300789
>Elmer is a lot closer to being the star of the cartoons
You are WAY off lmao

>>149300817
How am I off when he literally has more screentime in some?

>>149300224
We all know who was more pear shaped.

>>149300224
Now legal shota

>>149289414
Zoomer

>>149293137
It's strange how our alphabet soup writers tried to claim this show for the Agenda but failed to make an official gay couple.

>>149301869
It's almost like there are lessons to be learned from this.......

>>149301869
Because the audience is in charge. Not the writing staff. You write tropes and ideas, you only interest a handful of people. You write a good story, people will come in droves to listen.

>>149289367 (OP)
Because whenever she's not on screen everyone only cares sbout where Babs Bunny is.

BTW, one of the episodes' gag credit texts said

Model for Babs’ Feet – Kathryn Yelsa.

Did that mean this woman had a serious pair of stompers on her or something?

>>149302119
It must be an inside joke.

>>149301782
Buster is a zoomer?
Man I feel bad for him

>>149303096
Gen X'er.

>>149302119
This was before the internet popularized foot fetishes. Back then, kids and normal people just found it funny that someone who wasn't say, a shoe salesman, was talking about feet.

>>149295112
Babs was the more impulsive and showoff side of bugs while Buster was the Chuck Jones/McKimson everyman bugs.

>>149294203
Eat shit, Famicom, I got all the proof I need that you’re a pedo.

1. You defended lolicon here:
>post stating comprehensively why Lolicon makes you a pedo
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/149124552/#149152417
>You responded with "Nothing that you said is true", also defending your boyfriend Birchy's comment
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/149124552/#149155430

You also stated in this thread that lolis are harmless, even though the fact that you’re fapping to kids means that you’re attracted to kids:
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/149287583/#q149288240_2

2. You’re sexually attracted to Laura Haruna, here is a picture you made sexualizing her:
https://www.deviantart.com/famihamu64/art/Golden-Week-2025-1191222966
You claim that she’s aged up, despite the fact that she still contains childish features like her short height, large head, childish hairpins and clothes, and lack of adult features, all you did was give her breasts, the fact that you looked at a child and thought "she’d look sexy in a bikini" is chomo behavior.

Keep denying it, pedo liar, go back to watching Tiny Toons, the show that you literally called the second coming of Christ, and you wonder why nobody takes you seriously but your autistic dickriders.

>>149304441
You have no idea what you're talking about.

Drawings are not real, treating drawings as if they were real is like treating costume characters at theme parks as the real thing.

I do NOT like kids, I HATE being around kids.

I'm also straight.

Fapping doesn't work that way.

She is aged up.

You're the one who needs to see a shrink.

Also; Why is it ok to sexualize May and Dawn but if Laura and Kana want to look nice you start bitching at them?

Even Sakura and Doremi (mostly Onpu for the later) get a free pass but OHHH NOOOOO..... You can't make Laura look nice and pretty.

In short, if Pokégirls and the cast of Sailor Moon, Cardcaptor Sakura and Ojamajo Doremi can be sexualize so can the Hamtaro girls.

>>149304441
>that drawing
OOOOOFFFFFFF

>>149305178
It's good.

>>149305189
No Famicom, your art is shit, you’ve literally admitted to coloring with Crayola pencils rather than professional adult colored pencils, why’s that? Is it that hard to go to adult art aisle of Walmart rather than buying Crayola shit?

You refuse to take criticism, you’re drawings in general have weak lines of action, making them look amateurish for a guy who claims to be influenced by Chuck Jones, your digital drawings colors are too bright, also making them look amateur, and based on drawings like this:
https://www.deviantart.com/famihamu64/art/Attendant-Laura-and-Attendant-Kana-1149018897
https://www.deviantart.com/famihamu64/art/Laura-Pic-17-1076398982
It seems like you’ve never heard of the good ol’ silhouette rule that cartoonists use, instead it seems you copy regular cartoony poses rather than understanding what makes them work.

I’m just giving you criticism, it’s something anyone who makes art on the internet gets, but it seems you refuse to take criticism and claim that you’re skilled, this is why you’ll never improve on your art.

>>149305026
I never fap to drawings of Pokegirls (except for the milfs), but the difference is that artists actually give them adult features, that and they can possibly also be interpreted as adults, in the games they don’t act like a specific age group but rather an ambiguous one, makes their aging up make more sense albeit still kinda weird. Laura is a child who acts like a child and looks like a child. Also the Sailor Moon girls have the bodies of full grown women, teens looking like women is a common thing in anime and I’ll admit it’s still kinda weird.

Also remember that time last thread when you stated that "uh aktually Laura is technically 35 years old now cause she was 11 in the original series from 2001 so she’s okay to fap to"

Do I even have to explain why that’s fucking retarded? Seems like you’re grasping at straws trying to prove you’re not a pedo, pedo.

>>149305345
Normies use Crayola, Crayola is respected by normies and the art is good.
Yes the line art needs to be vectors, yes the coloring needs to be less garish but thats just the default pallet Sketchbook uses.
I know of the silhouette rule, it's why Laura has the hair she does.

Also; Why is it ok to sexualize Gwen Tennyson but not Laura Haruna?

>>149305452
Laura was 10 back in 2000, she is now 35 years old as she was born in December 15th 1989.

You need to see a shrink, I am not a pedo, I don't like being around kid, I like women my own age.

>>149305480
"Crayola is respected by normies", yeah if you’re fucking autistic. Real artists buy adult colored pencils, they aren’t hard to find.
https://www.target.com/p/prismacolor-premier-24pk-colored-pencils/-/A-50918945
Low functioning autists like Chris Chan color their "art" with crayons. And when I say silhouette rule I’m not just referring to their designs, but their posing, a strong pose is read by a strong silhouette that makes it clear what’s happening.

When have I said I fap to Gwen Tennyson retard? She looks a lot like a child in some versions of Ben 10 but the same shit I said about the Pokegirls and Sailor Moon could apply to her. Face it, you’re a pedo autist and everyone on the board hates you.

>>149295423
>>149295673
I dunno, Arnold was supposed to be the responsible kid in a school full of troublemakers. He was the guy the other kids went to with their problems because they respected him. That's something, at least.

On the other hand, I remember reading in a Nick Magazine article that the guy who created Arnold saw himself as a mix between Charlie Brown and Bugs Bunny, but veered more towards Charlie Brown as he got older. That probably explains a lot.

On 4chan, you have to deal with a mental patient if you want to talk about Tiny Toons

>>149305515
She’s 11 in literally any Hamtaro media ever, just because she’d be 35 now if she was real doesn't magically change her age in the series to an adult, why do I have to explain this, are you really that fucking dumb?

>>149304077
Now it’s just as blatant
This is what cartoon foot fetish content looks like in 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXREA2rR_4o

>>149305570
It’s a shame. I was ready to get into side character discussion. I’ll come back when the mods delete the schizo ramblings.

>>149305549
Not the autist, just putting it here: Faber Castell are superior. Oil >>>>>>>>>>>> wax.

>>149305664
Tiny Toons was the OG autism magnet, way before shit like The Loud House and My Little Pony became the most appealing shit ever for autistic pedo manchildren.

Dennis Falk is a good example one of the oldest cartoon spergs attracted by Tiny Toons, the fucker stalked a voice actor, I’m not surprised the shows fanbase houses a guy like Famicom.

>>149305645
This is so bad. I hate everything about this video, but the amateur voice acting is just grating.

>>149295231
The straightman never gets enough credit. Buster was perfect because he was still a silly bunny that dropped anvils on people, but he could pull it back enough when a straightman was needed against the crazier characters. Old Buster was great.

>>149305687
Anything is superior to fucking Crayola, I’m still boggled by Famicoms complete aversion towards using more professional stuff. Like I said, it’s not that hard to just go to the art aisle of the store and buy that kind of stuff instead of fucking Crayola. Does Famicom even shop for himself? I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s such an autistic manchild his mom buys his shit for him.

>>149305857
Ok that's enough man

>>149305876
Stop dickriding him, Birchy

>>149305914
I'm offended. But seriously, stop saying that shit when he's not engaging with you, it makes you sound as bad as him

>>149296342
Another nickel to the pile.

>>149305718
I wouldn't really say the show was all that uniquely designed to attract the mad amongus, it's more the fact the show was heavily promoted and distributed. It was everywhere for several years. TeeTee was Disney Afternoon levels of mainstream.

>>149305837
I think the straightman archtype should never be the mc. Hampton was the perfect straightman because he was consistent enough and endearing that he didn't turn into a Mary Sue. Plus he never took the lead breaking his straightman archtype. Buster wasn't layered. He flip flopped most of the time. Was he cool or was he a geek/nerd? Everyone else was consistent except for him.

TTA had 60+ episodes over 3 seasons but Babs and Plucky never had a single one together. Hampton and Calamity of all toons had one but the two most popular never did. Was that on purpose or did the show runners just never thought of one?

>>149307626
The second one. The writers obviously would have done more, if they could spend more time picking and choosing which ideas to turn into scripts and which throw in the mental waste bin. I think they were obligated to make too many episodes too fast, and did not have time to pause and think nearly enough.

But that's just a theory.

>>149307704
I bet if they were allowed to make 26 episodes a year, like a normal TV show, they would’ve had the space to think of more character pair-ups. Even Looniversity tried that near the end of its run.

>>149307759
X-actly!

>>149301869
Corporate stopped it probably
I'd have more respect if they went all the way with it, or at least said they were dating on social media. Buster is at least attracted to men they did the sleep with his clone joke

>>149305718
>1 (one) autistic retard attracted by show
>"It was a magnet, you guys!"
Oh fuck off, you faggot. Internet was new, anonymous and no one had a thick skin to online bullshit yet, so rude comments from a couple of clowns who suddenly could directly communicate with creators made people working on the show overreact,

>>149307626
TTA was a show where the writers were very much just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. I doubt a ton of thought or planning went into any character combos.

>>149309118
Throwing shit at the wall is literally TTA in a nutshell, and not the equivalent of God parting the heavens and personally delivering a gift to humanity that some people treat it as.

>>149309157
I am glad I am not some people.

How would you make Buster funny?

>>149309337
He is funny, not everyone needs to be ALWAYS LOUD IN YOUR FACE funny.

Other thread is gay

>>149309984
As if this thread is straight.

>>149296713
>Calling cartoon fucking shorts, EPISODES

This is what lead CN turning cartoon shorts into 10 minute episodes!

I HATE YOU

>>149300128
You are just huffing your own farts, and you wish it was fifis.

>>149309984
Famicom is not in it thats why.

>>149310545
Then it would be about that fucking hangars bitch instead.