Thread 149311848

Wtf /co/ I thought anime would never surpass cartoons.
You all lied to me.
Why does the newer generation skip out on western cartoons and instead go straight for weeb shit?

>>149311848 (OP)
Every other thread on here is about how cartoons are dying. They literally don't make that many of them anymore and the few they do make are not very appealing to younger generations. Or any generation, really. I generally prefer cartoons over anime (when they're well made), but it's the sad truth.

>>149311848 (OP)
Because it's largely not produced by jews so it's lacking the gross racial and homosexual propaganda they like to push on people

>>149311848 (OP)
Normies won. It's over for the weebs. Where will they go now? Filipino animation?

>>149311848 (OP)
50 percent of Netflix users are also trannies with no muscles, no motorcycles, no muscle cars, etc

>>149311858
>Every other thread on here is about how cartoons are dying.
It's weird how cartoons really are the 1 medium that is LITERALLY dying as in the networks have such an incredible small output compared to even 10 years ago.

>>149311882
And the other 50% do have all those things?

>>149311848 (OP)
Because anime isn't filled with anti male rehtoric, anime has actual stories and doesn't insult it's audience.
People want good stories and funny comedy and anime is the only animation medium providing that.
If you make a shitty product people are gonna flock to something else and no amount of insults and gaslighting will change that.
It's just the 2000s all over again, anime is mainstream and people want it over cartoons.

>>149311880
They'll just come to /co/ and talk about anime here soon.

>>149311900
>It's just the 2000s all over again, anime is mainstream and people want it over cartoons.
I'm pretty sure that was just middle schoolers in the 2000s, not general audiences.

>>149311915
I mean, isn't that what these threads are?

>>149311918
Hulk Hogan and a bunch of celebrities literally praised Pokemon when it came out and it was referenced in every cartoon even Johnny Bravo and South Park.
So yes it was the "general audience"

>>149311925
I really want to believe you're trolling but I can't think of a time I've ever seen someone be this level of retarded on purpose.

>>149311915
At this point mods should just remove the "Eastern origin" rule

>>149311948
Man I'm glad this shit was archived so I can laugh at how much of a retard you are.
https://youtu.be/ePke77GLMz4
https://youtu.be/ANAmrVF7ppA
https://youtu.be/BNVCnO1D0HU

>>149311972
Man Pokemon was an even bigger juggernaut back then I noticed that South Park episode is still one of my favorites

>>149311925
>celebrities get paid to endorse one (1) children's trading card game which happen to have an anime spinoff
>the same one (1) trading card game was lampooned in cartoons because it's trending among children
>therefore anime in general was popular in the west among all ages in a way that's comparable to today
It amazes me that you're able to solve a captcha.

>>149311981
Anon there's no denying it was apart of the American culture. They even had a Macy's Thanksgiving day balloon. It's basically honorary /co/ at this point.

>>149311992
You've forgotten what you're even arguing against, retard.

>>149312003
How so?

>>149312015
I never argued that the Pokemon franchise wasn't popular among kids in the 90's and 2000's. My point is that anime in general wasn't popular among all ages in the 2000's. Try to stay focused.

>>149312037
Okay thanks for actually telling me instead of just hurling insults.
>My point is that anime in general wasn't popular among all ages in the 2000's
Anon a lot of 4kids dubs were popular, I remember even seeing anti drug stuff at school that had Yu-Gi-Oh characters on it.
Like anime in the 2000s and 90s left a mark on Western culture.
And it seems we're getting a second wind of that.

>>149312059
I think it's different now though. Adults watch anime. Like, normie adults. And little kids do too. Like younger than middle school kids, and they watch actual anime not toy selling battle brawlers anime.

>The west*id c*mics industry is a rotting corpse
>west*id animation is dead, too
How good it feels to be Ch/a/d
Damn
We /a/colytes do nothing and we win
J/a/pan can't stop winning

>>149312067
>normie adults

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhh. Nerdy ones, sure. The 18-23 crowd, maybe. I don't know about normies. 46-year old dads who watch football or moms who watch reality TV sure ain't watching anime.

This isn't new. My 62 years old dad watched anime when he was a kid.

>>149311848 (OP)
You had this exact same op for a pic right before.

>>149311858
>They literally don't make that many of them anymore
The only new ones ones worthy talking are the TADC and the HB/HH combo because all the rest are unwatchable trash (and even then they're not that great), things are so bad that /co/ spent like two weeks last years pretending that yet a another spin-off of Adventure Tumblr Time was any good just to forget it quickly because unsurprisingly, it was.bad.

>>149311848 (OP)
>prefer anime over cartoons
That's not what it said, although I wouldn't be surprised if anime had more of a presence than cartoons on Netflix: most of the good cartoons that weren't theirs on the platform got scooped up by their IP holders to show on their own platforms, and the original ones produced by Netflix all get canceled no matter how successful they are.

>>149312478
>The 18-23 crowd
18-40 crowd, more like. But sure maybe not the hypernormies.

>>149311848 (OP)
>Why does the newer generation skip out on western cartoons
You do realise that the 50% of users watching anime also watch western cartoons, right?

>>149312534
>HB/HH
>Good

>>149312478
>46-year old dads who watch football or moms who watch reality TV sure ain't watching anime.
I'm 55. I watch hockey. I've always watch every Ghibli movie. Does that count?

>>149312589
Maximum /co/pium

>>149311848 (OP)
Anime won and /co/ will forever seethe over it.

>>149312589
Which is why /co/ should allow discussion of both.

>>149312642
Thissssss

east vs west troll threads are cancer and against >>>/global/rules/3 and >>>/co/rules/1
OP is a faggot.
Fulfill your civic duty to help purge this board of anarchistic, sociopathic, intellectually regressive youtube/reddit/twitter immigrant subhumans like him who are under the delusion that all of 4chan (instead of just the designated shitposting playpens like /b/, /trash/, /bant/, etc.) is a toilet by reporting this thread en masse.
Here's a link so you don't have to scroll up to the top of the page.
https://sys.4chan.org/co/imgboard.php?mode=report&no=149311848

>>149312645
Das rite

>>149312589
What cartoons? Invincible?

>>149312598
No, because you're not a normie. You post on 4chan. I watch sports too, and I'm as far away from being a normie as you can get.

>>149312658
https://youtu.be/V9O94UTDAJQ

>>149312658
seethe & /co/pe more
/co/cksucker

>>149312478
Gym chads watch Baki and have anime tatooes.

>>149312589
Bro... come on, you don't seriously believe that.

>>149312594
Never said that, they're just slightly better and visually appealing than the trash network put out these days which speaks how low the quality barrier is for new content nowadays

>>149311848 (OP)
>50 percent of Netflix users prefer anime over cartoons
Nowhere is that said in the article

>>149311862
2pbp

>>149312768
I think op was just ragebaiting but it's half true more people are watching anime over cartoons these days

>>149311848 (OP)
That's not what the headline says
it's probably true but it's not what the headline says

Still if they have such a big anime audience maybe they can stop being cheap and shill out for all the fly me to the moons for evangelion

>>149312794
Well it fucking helps that there is a lot more anime to choose from, Japan shits like out 20 series a season.

>>149311848 (OP)
Western animation kinda died by the end of the 2010s when it fell instead of flew with shows like Adventure Time, Gravity Falls, and Svtfoe all failing to deliver in some way while also alienating or fracturing their audience. Interest doesn't really exist anymore especially among teens, and theres much less money in television versus 10 year ago.

>>149311848 (OP)
>tranime
NO!

>>149312864
You say that but you worship anime. you use slang taken from /dbs/ threads and you always ask anime fans to acknowledge whatever hulk comics you like. You are salve to anime fans.

>>149312864
Did you ironically post a picture from that tranny Hulk series?

>>149312864
Based HulkGOD.

>the faggot's gonna spam this again and again
>>149312516
Watch him do this 100 more times while mods protect him and ban anybody who speaks out against the faggot.

>>149312891
>>149312864
Make it less obvious. This is genuinely pathetic.

>>149312848
Some Anon ran the numbers awhile back and, not counting continuations or sequels, in the last few years, the entire western world puts out 20 animated series over the course of the typical year, and that's including obscure toddlerslop from South America. In the same span,still not counting continuations or sequels series, Japan puts out about 5 times that in just shounen, not even factoring in the admittedly smaller but still present shouno, seinen, and josei demographics, and the kodomo demographic basically acts as containment for 90% of toddlerslop.

Even without accounting for the bar being broadly higher due to the industry over there being less rotted out, the sheer number of series ensure you end up with a higher quantity and quality of shit to watch through sheer fucking numbers.

>>149312911
>not even factoring in the admittedly smaller but still present shouno, seinen, and josei demographics, and the kodomo demographic basically acts as containment for 90% of toddlerslop.
Shouno, I meant shouno. Fucking spelling errors.

>>149312896
Most threads are just repeats of other threads. /co/ has been this way since at least 2019. What can you do?

>>149312691
>>149312694
Not him but why the fuck are you on this board?

>tranimeHOMOS hate this board
>constantly set up east vs west threads
Why?

>>149312423
>>149311848 (OP)
>m

>>149312938
Hulk bitch go back to your DB threads.

>>149312942
>>149312938
Death Battle and East vs West should both be banned

>>149312938
Inferiority complex.

>>149312938
/a/ doesn't give a fuck about /co/. Make the same threads there and they would just write "cartoons are trash lol" and then let the threads die or they would just get deleted by better mods. Only /co/ thinks there is a rivalry.

>>149312954
>Only /co/ thinks there is a rivalry.
Most of /co/ LIKES anime and manga, we're just sick of shitty spam threads

>>149312963
then ignore them

>>149312954
This thread was literally made by an /a/fag.

>>149311848 (OP)
People has to remember that before Netflix become democratised, most normalfags didn't watched shows religiously. You were see as a geek just for that.
The later seasons of Game of Thrones made it more mainstream, then during COVID (and already in 2019), normalfags became aware of anime with the already popular Kimetsu no Yaiba.
>>149311880
As an ex-weeb (only watched and listened to japanese/asian media and music), I got interested into western (american and european) comics, cartoons, shows, movies and musics since 2018.
It's really not that different, honestly. Japan wins by numbers ans consistency by releasing series in a specific period; while cartoons, even back in the day, releases were all over the place. Also, there is a bit too much slice of life/adventure cartoons which make them less interesting.

>>149312950
No
>>149312954
simple /co/cksucker inferiority complex
>>149312963
Deal with it
>>149312982
No.
We win without doing anything

/co/ has to expand their horizon to eurotrash comics and cartoons
>b... but...
No ifs or buts, if America isn't outputting what is required, then broaden the "west" to encompass Europe as well.

>images (45)
>tranimefag is a phone poster
Kek.

>>149311848 (OP)
I kind of moved to anime and manga in the 2010s since the /co/ output felt extremely inferior in comparison. This was to be expected since AoT anime has been getting more and more popular.

>>149313010
>eurohit
only exists in france
(in the uk and italy they're dead)
without the wealth stolen by france from its colonies until now, there would be no subsidies for its moribund BD industry sustained by the already very minority white boomers

>>149311848 (OP)
>/co/ I thought anime would never surpass cartoons.
No one thought that. Now stop spamming this.

>>149313010
I'd allow anime discussion at this point, people are already avatarfagging with it.

>>149313038
Nah, there is something in the water with Finland at the moment because their underground indie scene has some weird shit going on.
That's not getting into the weird slavshit.

>>149313010
Little Amelie just came out in french movie theaters, and it's a bliss for the eyes.

>>149313015
What ugly shit is that?
that /co/cksuckers can't draw?

>>149313061
That's always been Finland though. Should've seen the stuff they made in the 60s and 70s.

Looking at the leaked art and story for Avatar: Seven Havens we can already tell that it's going to be bad, suffering from writers being too concerned about telling a progressive story or building a progressive world that they forget how to tell a good story and make a good action cartoon. So even when westerns try to mimic anime they get the shit wrong. Legend of Korra had the same issue. Cartoons lack the sense of adventure people get from anime. These things need to take risks, but western writers think risk is making a story with gay lovers and a female lead, instead of telling a story with original ideas and some muscle, and not realizing that their primary audience for this shit is (young) men and it will always be young men.

>>149311848 (OP)
because theyre serials

>>149311848 (OP)
>50%
>surpass
Anon…

>>149311900
the thing about anime is you can find one about any topic. If you want to watch an anime about golf it exists, if you want cooking it exists, if you want heartbreak its there. There's so much variety to choose from compared to cartoons where a majority of it follows the same structure aside from a few standouts

>>149312493
My own mother watched Death Note on her own, she's 54. She's also recommending anime movies to me that i've never seen before.

>>149313747
That's pretty nice

>>149311848 (OP)
More variety and quality.

>>149311848 (OP)
>Why does the newer generation skip out on western cartoons and instead go straight for weeb shit?

Why anime is better than cartoons
>Better writing. It has a variety of stories that is not constrained to the tropes of one genre. Anime is a hybrid mix of comedy, horror, porn, and action as opposed to being entirely one or another. An anime story about selling wine in anime can have a cool chase scene, funny comedy gag, murder mystery, and be a mob film at the same time. (Baccano)
>Easier to invest in the story. Resolves its story within 1 or 2 seasons as opposed to being canceled like Final Space and Infinity Train.
>Progressive instead of conservative, has female/gay/trans/brown leads since the 80s. People like that inclusiveness because it is done without being demeaning or annoying to their main audience.
>Better art and storyboards done with basic film school techniques and >3 point perspective.
>Better animation, plays around with limited animation in a creative way as opposed to just only holding character frames or tweening it.
>Better music and sound design. There's no stock music, it's composed like a film by having licensed music and original serious OSTs.
>More sincere instead of ironic, the characters take their setting seriously regardless of how stupid it looks. Self-depreciation loses its touch if you're the 10000th white dude making fun of it.
>Appealing instead of ugly.
>Better action scenes.

TADC and Hazbin Hotel follows the above and that's why people like it.

>>149313734
It is also not one-note like cartoons. It's multiple genres combined into one. I thought that Gundam 0079 was going to be a show about a kid blowing shit up with a giant robot, instead it is drama with comedy sprinkled in-between.

>>149312967
>ignore cancer and it goes away
Worked with all other shitposting on site
Oh wait.

>>149314154
But can you do nothing to stop them so the only thing you are doing is entering these threads and seething about them. By filtering them or ignoring them you won't have to deal with it.

>>149314172
Nah, I'll make it as miserable for trash like you as I can.
Anyway, kill yourself trash.

>>149314180
Making them miserable how? Also I am not op but he got enough (you)s yesterday so he will continue making them. If you stopped giving him attention he would switch to something else.

>ignore schizos and they will get bored
Again, retard. This has never worked in the history of 4chan ever, so kill yourself.
Guess what, retard. That was the way of /a/ before post-covid newfag garbage like you flooded it and drove away all the oldfags.
It's called self-moderation.

>>149314215
4chan barely has any oldfags left and /a/ works because it's the most moderated board. Mods on /co/ don't really care.

>missing the point
Holy shit you're such a retarded subhuman.
Yeah, let's make /co/ even worse then. Brilliant plan.
Kill yourself.

>>149314248
/co/ can't get worse, it's already there at this point and also if it wasn't clear the trolls can use the same strategy, aka ignoring you and engaging with other people in the thread to keep it going. that fool language is not nice what happened to the laid-back gentleman from >>149312963

>only one person could ever call me a retard and hate crossboarding shitposters lowering the already low quality of the board
Yeah, you're genuinely retarded.

>>149314286
Blah blah blah, well the shiposters will continue posting while you will probably keep seething.