Thread 149314228

Is he right for feeling this way?

>>149314228 (OP)
But the early seasons have some of the best episodes. Like the Rainforest Schmainforest one, Roger Ebert Should Lay Off The Fatty Foods, Kenny Dies, Asspen, Two Guys Naked in a Hot Tub, Starvin Msrvin, Starvin Marvin in Space, Timmy 2000...

>>149314228 (OP)
He's wrong to feel embarassed because some of the older episodes are great, but I understand why he feels they don't reflect his current writing ability because of how 'amateur' they were in comparison

>>149314228 (OP)
He should at least be proud of the 1999 movie

How long before he apologizes for the jew jokes

>>149314228 (OP)
I miss the odd, rough surreal humor of the older episodes and if he's so embarrassed remake the first couple of seasons with this "Better" writing.

>In article, he clearly states he only means the first 3 seasons
>Retarded clickbait site uses season 8 episode Good Times with Weapons as their example

>>149314309
>remake the first couple of seasons with this "Better" writing
Jakovasaur is the same only Stan Kyle, Kenny and Cartman are replaced by Randy.
Butters' Very Own Show is the same only Butters is replaced by Randy.
Stanley's Cup is the same only Stan is replaced by Randy.
Lake Tardicaca is the same only Towelie is replaced by Randy.

>>149314228 (OP)
Here’s the article, fuck OP for not posting it, the lazy cunt
>The early seasons of South Park differ in the way that the show is largely set the scene of the fictional Colorado town as the creators introduce their brilliant characters. Since then, Trey Park and Matt Stone’s show has focused more on satirising the many facets of celebrity culture and politics.

>Interestingly though, Parker once admitted that he is “embarrassed” by the early seasons of the show. Sitting down with The Hollywood Reporter, he said: “If I had to permanently erase anything from the library, it would basically be anything before season 4. It’s just embarrassing to watch. OK, we were, like, 26, 27. But it’s like, ‘Really? We thought that was funny? We thought that was well-written? Oh my God, this is terrible.'”

>It’s fair to say that what one might find funny in their mid-20s, they might find cringe-inducing some ten or 20 years later. However, there is a sense of Parker being hard on himself here, and those early seasons of South Park helped him and Stone find their feet before deciding which direction to take their creation in.

>It also ought to be pointed out that the fear of something not being funny is on Parker’s mind a lot. In 2020, he was asked if he ever doubts a South Park episode that is scheduled for release. “Oh, every single week,” he said. “Every single show. You can ask anybody. Every show, I’m always saying, ‘Oh God, can we call the studio? Can we call Comedy Central and tell them there’s no show this week?’ And I always have to get talked down by Matt, and he goes, ‘Oh, come on, it’s funny!‘ and I’m like, ‘But there’s nothing!'”

>>149314340
I meant the first five seasons, nothing past Season 6, South Park tried becoming more grounded as time went on.

>>149314228 (OP)
clickbait bullshit is all the south park schizo has. post it again in 4 hours and don't forget to tell your mom

>>149314349
>Parker added: “You know, it happens every week. Almost every week, too, even by the time we’re done with the show, I’m like, ‘Oh my god. I’m embarrassed this is going on television.’ It’s not even finished, it’s not going to make any sense, everyone is going to be like, ‘that is the worst show ever.'”

>However, Parker also admitted that “South Park is way bigger than either of us,” acknowledging the fact that the work belongs to their audience rather than themselves and showing that Parker knows he is likely just being paranoid at being cancelled for his comedy (although by this point, it’s likely he never will).

>He concluded: “And it’s this curse, and when we are doing it, I hate it. I’m pissed off, and I’m tired, and every single Tuesday, I say, ‘This is the worst show we’ve ever done!’ It’s brutal. But it’s something I am a part of that’s bigger than I am. That’s what is most important.”
tl:dr he just thinks season 1-4 aren’t that funny.

>>149314357
You'll get Randy as the series protagonist across all of the special edition seasons and you'll thank Trey for it.

>>149314228 (OP)
>Is he right for feeling this way?
How would I know, you didn't post his reasoning.

>>149314228 (OP)
Almost every artist feels this way about their early work.

>soarin' so high above the world
>never thought I could be so free
>I'm one with the birds
>and magic is all I see

>>149314228 (OP)
Rednecks pretending they're not rednecks are the most pretentious contradicting anti-moral standardless easy to manipulate hypocrites there are.

>>149314376
FUCK YOU!
I know you're right and I hate you for being right, you fuck.

>>149314228 (OP)
HAHAHAHAHAH THEYRE STARTING
now theyre going to apologize for raking in millions in cash for being offensive. because being offensive is a cheat code to success in entertainment, and they dknt want anyone following in their footsteps.
rosie odonnel, howard stern, roseanne, luis ck, and the rest. they all became unreasonably wealthy for saying nigger and making fun of gays. now they finger wag anyone copying their formula.
ill hold my breath till matt and trey give back all the money.

>>149314364
But "Not Without My Anus" is the funniest half hour of television ever produced.

>>149314364
What a weirdo. 1-4 are the best ones. Newer seasons are just background noise like Simpsons or Family Guy.

>>149314349
>>Since then, Trey Park and Matt Stone’s show has focused more on satirising the many facets of celebrity culture and politics.
>>OK, we were, like, 26, 27. But it’s like, ‘Really? We thought that was funny? We thought that was well-written? Oh my God, this is terrible.'”
I basically read this as "actual comedy for adults should always be about politics or mocking current celebrity drama"
I pity the Americans and this brainwashing "culture ".

>>149314336
>In article, he clearly states he only means the first 3 seasons
This is particularly hilarious to me because the first three seasons are the only ones I ever care to rewatch. They're typically not a commentary on anything and rely more on absurdity, toilet humor, and bashing celebrities just for existing, but I think that makes them more fun and easier to watch than having to get invested in the "conflict of the week" that newer episodes rely on.

This makes it seem like Trey misconstrues the ability to integrate current events into a script as "writing skill", which honestly would explain a lot.

>>149314228 (OP)
The real reason he hates early South Park is because of this:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=QMHAu_WbG4o

Trey may despise Family Guy, but he LOVES and RESPECTS The Simpsons. Imagine your favorite show shitting on you, even after you dedicated a whole episode honoring it. That clearly had an effect on his psyche, leading him to repudiate his own series up to that point and drastically alter it afterwards.

>>149314926
>"Not Without My Anus" is the funniest half hour of television ever produced.
Unironically this. At the very least it's the funniest thing to air on comedy central. But the best thing was the reaction from pissed off normies who suddenly got invested in a silly poo-poo cartoon like it was a soap opera
>be me in 1998
>waiting for new South Park episode
>instead it's Terrence and Philip
>sweet, I fucking love Terrence and Philip
>laugh my ass off for a solid half hour
>go to school the next day
>all the cool kids were legitimately salty as fuck that they didn't find out who Cartman's mom was
>my friend and I are just laughing and farting

>>149315173
Simpsons was already trash at this point, but fuck, that lampoon was spot-on.

>>149315085
Also, having Randy as their self insert who's a living god

>>149314349
>It’s fair to say that what one might find funny in their mid-20s, they might find cringe-inducing some ten or 20 years later.
This is the part I honestly understand, but not why Trey prefers every single direction the show went later. South Park clicked with the zeitgeist of the late 90s for a reason.

>>149314349
I think a lot of people thought it was funny since Comedy Central was a nothing 5th rate rerun channel before early South Park made it fucking huge and had money to do something with the network after it.

>>149314988
>Newer seasons are just background noise like Simpsons or Family Guy.
I'd say South Park have gone downhill just as bad as Simpsons, but not as bad as Simpsons, where that show could never even recover

>>149315818
>South Park clicked with the zeitgeist of the late 90s for a reason.
more like late-90s through the majority of the 2000s, if you think about it real hard

>>149314228 (OP)
A lot of artists do not feel like they deserve their spotlight until they make some Big & Important Point(TM). Personally, I think that's stupid, since any art subconsciously makes some kind of point regardless of what the original intent was, and it's usually more subtle than when the artist hits you over the head with his opinions.

>>149315967
South Park had multiple resurgences, I think it's a big part of the reason it's so valuable an IP. The Simpsons is never going to have an episode that pulls people old and new back in, but South Park did more than once.

>>149316022
I dunno, I tried giving new South Park a chance, and it's just not funny. It died in 2015 and it had gotten tiresome since

>>149316022
>The Simpsons is never going to have an episode that pulls people old and new back in, but South Park did more than once.
Really? Which ones? Every time I've tried to watch a "new" episode, I lose interest in like 5 minutes, because they all seem to require you be invested in some particular current event or culture war in order to find the jokes funny. Every episode feels like a dissertation that I didn't ask for. I unironically miss when it was about farting and crippled robots, only.

>>149314228 (OP)
No, the best era of SP is pre-Movie.

What a pussy

>>149316359
It was good until season 8 or so. After that it started going downhill.

>>149317769
Nah, it's S15. When Stan starting seeing everything as shit.

>>149314228 (OP)
No. He should kill himself.

>>149314275
Yeah. South Park was at its best when it focused on the kids' lives rather than political commentary or Randy.

>>149314275
South Park ended with season 10, maybe 11 if you really want to push it. It's been bad longer than it's been good.

>>149319842
The show was always political commentary. Randy being a focus is a huge negative.

You're a sick man, OP. Stop stalking after Paris.

>>149314304
Matt writes the Jew jokes.

>>149314349
It's always the one OP who whines about Trey's successes, then back down like a bitch when nobody answers his questions.

>>149316022
The episode where Homer discovers internet piracy made me pick Simpsons back up for a spell.

>>149314364
>tl:dr he just thinks season 1-4 aren’t that funny.
He's incorrect of course. Season 1 maybe I can understand but that's it.

>>149314926
I'll never understand the hate for season 2 and I think it's a case of people simply parroting opinions because it's got a lot of great episodes, especially once you get into the back half and they really dialed on the style of humor that would care them for the next few years until it started getting more overtly topical/current events around season 7ish.

>>149320723
>Randy being a focus is a huge negative.
Randy was funny as a loon they could use for like one episode i.e. I'M SORRY I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA. Anything beyond that has been a complete detriment but also by the time they started doing it the show had been dead and gay for a long time.