>>149314511 (OP)More like OP is gay-nom lol
>>149314511 (OP)I think Venom uses they not she.
Venom is now confirmed to be male, chud
>>149314599Combine "they" with "we" and you'll "whey" and now why she is so buff makes sense now.
>>149314693I think that would the symbiote's mouth. Considering the alien by itself and not bonded to anything. Otherwise symbiotes just produce symbiotes asexually as goop coming out of themselves so you couldn't really find it. Mouth it is.
>>149315320Indeed.
Man I wish there were more cute She-Venom pics where she had even proportions. One of these days I should learn to draw. I guess pencil and some classes is the best way to go.
>>149314693Would the symbiote enhance sex for the host?
>>149316428Considering that one Carnage panel where he throws Spider-Man and pic rel, symbiotes can see all around themselves. So you could morph the symbiote to another side of the room and probably see it's perspective. Don't need no ceiling mirrors.
Also if you're bonded to the hentai tentacle then I guess you got multiple sensory organs going at it one time given how many a symbiote can have as well as multiple heads with their own tongues.
>>149317030think of the rimjobs
>>149317113Here's some real ideas here: if Venom's waste product is the green slime then I guess if you do that to a girl or a girl does that to you, then I guess whatever germs would be included in that slime. Then I might actually be inclined to commit such sodomy if I had something that can immediately clean it.
Not sure if a non-freaky symbiote would be willing.
Also I get one then would I have to share with my gf? Man having two gfs would be tough but if it's a symbiote then I could make do.
If the gf had a symbiote herself then hopefully that one is a chick or just plain alien/xeno and there is no gender. I dunno if I could stand a symbiobro shoving himself in there all the time unless he's a chad and a bro.
>>149317231If I could see through the symbiobros eyes to see her perspective to make sure she is faithful then that is one hell of a wingman though.
But then again she could see me and I'd have to not stare at TnA sometimes. A sticky situation...huh. Makes me think a conflict between Eddie and Anne with the symbiote being a character this time around would make for an interesting AU.
Does open the possibility for a mini-arc where the symbiote is by itself and has to bond to different aliens/animals to get through an adventure, could be a horror issue or a comedy issue like The Commuter Cometh.
>>149317231> If the gf had a symbiote herself then hopefully that one is a chickI actually came across an audio series on YouTube that started at basically a โgender swapped Spider-man as your girlfriendโ role play that evolved into this premise. The symbiote was able to jump between you and Spider-girl, and had a fun personality.
It was by Wholesome Girlfriend ASMR, and has a dedicated playlist because it has like 18 entries at this point and is still ongoing.
>>149317859Maybe I'll check it out but ASMR stuff is not something I am really into because I think I would get that same feeling of trying to replace real affection. I mean writing all this shit on 4chan is another form of that replacement but at least I get to exercise some creative writing somewhat instead of just indulging myself.
Also I realized that in Hickman's Ultimate right now, the symbiote is a copy of Peter's conciousness and that would be the ideal scenario. If I had a symbiote on me with my gf's (if I had one) conciousness and my gf had a symbiote of me on her, then that would be much more comfortable of a concept to me. Damn 6160 Peter is lucky.
>>149317971Yeah, itโs not a trap that Iโd want to fall into either, and if it wasnโt for the symbiote aspect I wouldnโt have given it a second glance. I look at it as more of a storytelling medium rather than a replacement for genuine connection.
>>149317030If Marvel wasnโt filled with cowards, this is the kind of feminine symbiote that weโd be getting on the pages.
>>149318842Interesting. I think comics could greatly benefit from audio books or commentary tracks. Man if Marvel actually decided to hire old VA's like Christopher Daniel Barnes or Hank Azaria to read old story arcs, that would be beyond kino. Chris Barnes and Neil Ross reading their parts for the Night Gwen Stacy Died or Azaria reading Venom in issue 300 or 316 is a fantasy of mine.
Yep. I think only Japan can save us but I have a feeling Marvel wouldn't even let them do female symbiote stuff considering the manga we have gotten. A damn shame because a team of symbiotes akin to a Sentai squad or magical girl team would be kino.
>>149319496On one hand, muscle can be hot or ok like pic rel or like
>>149318485 where it's massive but within evenly distributed proportions. When the heads get too small or the muscles too big and weird looking that's when it disgusts me. This might all fall into "hyper" but I am not sure. I just know it can look good to me and really bad to me. Too bad there's so much of it with Venom in general and most are bad like gross Deviantart in the 00's meme tier.
Also man I get tired of the symbol being so small. Ugh. Even pic rel is guilty of that. I don't get why people like it or do it.
>>149319670But I can't get too picky sometimes. The logo might be small in some images but the rest is fine. Also nowadays I feel like there is more She-Venom art in general.
>>149319058Theyโve done so many short-lived symbiote teams that quickly fizzle out, but a sentai inspired one sounds like such an easy sell. Just have a team of hosts (attitude optional, but preferred) with differently colored symbiotes with unique abilities fight various bad guys. Bonus points if they actually have interesting powers that lend themselves to unique battles.
Comic fights in general have been lacking lately. Feels like there is little weight to any of them, and definitely no strategy at play.
>>149315340>slampig Eddieunf
>>149319058>Usagi: "We are Lunacy!"
>She is venom he is venom they are venom is there any other venom I should know about!?
>>149321322Good name. Moon madness doesn't just affect Moon Knight. I guess the male version would be lunatic but I think there must be a character already named that. Can't remember.
>>149320092They could just take the Life Foundation ones and make them more unique. Maybe all of them have special weapons they can only create and then some more creative ability on top of that with their weaknesses of fire and sound. Venom spawned Carnage and he is able to do any weapon while the group is specialized. Toxin could be the Hawkeye/Green Ranger equivalent who fights the team but then becomes the new leader and tries to instill more heroism in them.
I feel like Cates and his addition of symbiote dragons is ok if they didn't become the reason for the symbol and instead are just Knull's mode of transport and that's it. Perhaps symbiotes when they get older grow bigger or turn into those dragons. The team could use one of the dragons as a bioship to travel to other planets. Or some other large symbiote organism could serve as their spaceship.
>>149319496What in the Mayan dubstep?!
Dustyj art is sometimes really wonky looking and other times he is probably helping revive female symbiote stuff significantly.
i need a lanky redhead serial killer alien host gf
>>149321782Inspiration could also be taken from the third Venom movie, where they gave elemental abilities to some of them, like Agony having electric powers. Maybe not quite that extreme, like having one of them more conductive and able to channel electrical currents or something instead of just ripping off Electro.
Iโm definitely all for giving the Life Foundation crew more relevance though. Aside from Scream, they never really had any presence of moments.
>>149315340>i'm gonna fu-i mean KILL parker!
>>149322804FUCK MARRY AND KILL
>>149322804why would venom still look the same? I thought symbiotes take the default form of the host
>>149322790I forgot but they do have unique stuff to them. Though I think Agony could create more chemicals beyond acid like explosives, smokescreens, flashbangs, etc. Lasher needs to have malleability and maybe could generate little symbiote goop spots in a room that he can sprout tendrils or weapons from while always having multiple arms on himself, Phage could maybe just be the general mad scientist type who creates buffs and debuffs as well as the medic possibly, Riot is the combiner torso of a zord/robot who's weapons combine with another's to make a better one and being able to harden like Colossus, and Scream could be more stealthy and lean like Mania was, move fast, and maybe her thing alongside sonic screams would be her being projectile focused, shooting out mini-spikes from her hair.
Maybe they could be used with their old hosts who are ressurrected for some mysterious reason and have to navigate the symbiote planet itself. That could work.
>>149322841Marvel has now said Venom is so used to Eddie that it likes to be that way. Kinda dumb. Symbiotes in general I think are best when they are a costume and fit their host. The powers can flip back and forth as to who influences who but physcially it is generally a costume that fits the person. I don't like what Ewing and Cates did when they had Dylan just be able to be the size of Eddie. There's gotta be limits on the symbiote's power. Like he can get buffer and have strength but he shouldn't be as strong as if Eddie was in there and be the size of Eddie.
I prefer this one. I think the rest are nsfw.
>>149319670hot
>>149316428well they make the host more aggressive and full of energy so yes
>>149325665>make the host more aggressiveInb4 tired argument is set off but the symbiote was nice to Peter and then came after Peter b/c of Peter freaking out
and came with Eddie and they both happened to hate Spidey at the same time. The aggression was already there, they just enabled each other. TAS made the symbiote evil and just had it corrupt Eddie. Much simpler, good for an abridged version.
Sorry anon I just wanted to get all that outta the way before yet another of those arguments happened.
Pic rel is not a reaction. I just felt like posting Bisley. Man I wish he did more and didn't use this design from that one variant. Oh well. Out of curiosity, I haven't heard about Bisley in a while but if I ever had the chance, a commission by him would be cool.
Ok well if this thread stays alive I might post more. Might as well end it with an Anne. My beloved. Jesus her 90's hairdos and big glasses were cute. Suicide's never the answer and make sure YOUR qt.413 is always reminded of their value in the world. Otherwise your loved one or (you) may end up at a place like Marvel eternally seething at beauty and artistry existing in the world and people being able to discern what is beautiful and valuable. It requires affirmation and appreciation.
Bumping because we all could use more She-Venoms in our lives.
>>149327568Too true amigo.
>>149326177Really, jumping out a window is hardly fatal in Marvel logic.
>>149315340the insignia hair is a really cool idea
>>149328018Is it? Remember that happened when Marvel still had some level of care back then. Plus in that page, the window is like out of a 10-story building onto concrete so that would be fatal. Still bullshit how they only did it to make Eddie evil again.
>>149329269I do like that and R63 Eddie looking like a yandere fujo is funny but eh, I'd like her to be buff instead. That and y'know the Venom form being male is lame. But yeah I think symbiote characters having more civilian fashion designs with their symbiote incorporated would be fun. Andi, Donna, and the Life Foundation could use some cartoon character designers to come in and make them stand out.
>>149327568Amen.
>>149322841Anon sometimes even the comics don't follow that rule
If you want feminine she-venom just post it
I feel like a design like this (pic rel) would fit She-VenoMJ better. The variant used for inspiration for this Bisley pic
>>149325906 is emulating MJ's debut look but in pic rel, I think white long stockings and gloves (longer than pic rel) would work better to create the same tank top negative space from the black of the symbiote.
But if I had the chance to make a She-VenoMJ design for real I'd treat it like the Scarlet Spider process where it would be real hard to get right. Unless some artist just has a genius idea.
Maybe for all women who get a design like Venom and not like Carnage (i.e. Scream or Agony), those female symbiotes should have eyelashes like Anne did.
>>149332092Peter would definitely treat female symbiote hosts better than he does male ones.
That True Romance cover of Sinner Takes All made me think of Gary Oldman in the same movie and his dreadlocks. Then that reminded me of MJ during Todd's adjectiveless sporting frizzy hair kinda like a black woman.
All that to say, symbiotes could emulate any hair style and MJ with it could have fun and basically swap through all her styles over the years as well as AU references like the MTV hairstyle she had.
Too bad Gomez isn't allowed or given space yet to do that. Writers kinda swallow up a lot of the fun sometimes. I mean Ewing seems better than Slott and other BND guys but he still kinda seems like he isn't trying too hard and that's all Marvel's fault basically. At least the history is addressed somewhat.
I like the bald look don't get me wrong but what styles would you like to see? Anne had her classic pixie cut, and more recent longer hair during the flashback that looked like Gwen. What else would work? Oh and obviously these designs could have teeth, tongue, and mini-heads if necessary. I do like that about stuff like Rival's squirrel girl incorporating ideas in that way.
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If only mc2 was more popular. I want more april fan art
>>149332092>ywn be tormented by thicc symbiotes
>I'm sorry Spidey you can't fix her that bitch needs to be put down
SEX WITH FEMALE SYMBIOTES
>>149314511 (OP)Missing the 19 inches cock you get by default when bounding with venom
>>149332410neat composition
>>149314511 (OP)If you fuck her, would the host get pregnant or the symbiote?
>>149317859Can you link it
>>149314511 (OP)>>149317030>>149319670Symbiote women NEED to be of the gorilla variety. But if they aren't, perky alt/punk girls at least are a (distant) second best.
>>149320055>PokkutiBased.
What do symbiotes and women both like?
Answer: Chocolate!
>>149336787Spoilers for Cate's run if you care but if I recall correctly:
You get the host pregnant but the symbiote can like manipulate DNA or pass on it's powers or whatever the hell is up with Dylan since it bonded to the host (pregnant woman).
>>149336916Those are great and goofy, big mouthed, shapeshifting, Jessica Rabbit type bombshelles like Anne are a good third type. All are appreciated here.
Oh yeah I might post some She-Venom Miku later too. That was a nice short trend with a pretty good design.
>>149315340I don't dislike the design, but in no way would a gender bent Eddie Brock be a thicc glasses wearing alt-girl. Sheddie would be a lot more what zoomers call "Karen" esque, Eddie himself is a raving psycho but he's much more of a traditionally masculine guy than an edgelord
Now Cletus, gender bent, could easily be some red/black streaked hair female metalhead, probably the variety who poses with decorative knives on photo shoots and has ruined the lives of like 20 biker dudes and tattoo artists since she was 17
>>149332196Ok I think what I was describing was similar to pic rel but with some of the blacks and whites switched around. I do think the leotard looks good on MJ. Not sure if her hair should be red or black, or there at all. That's a thing to hammer out another time.
>>149337895Hmm. What are buff women like? Some of them seem like they would be emotionally distant or perhaps trying to be one of the guys too much. Combining that with Eddie trying to one-up people I think that would still end up with you described. Maybe she's like a withdrawn person mostly but then starts to scheme and plot like an ice queen stacy but does it on her terms unlike a stacy who involves lackeys. She likes some feminine things but I guess she'd like sports and investigating stuff more. I could see her liking mystery novels a lot and true crime. Maybe she doesn't like them as much when she becomes a reporter going out and finding herself the information but she probably reminisces on it.
>>149336804https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja9i3_dGvag&list=PL3q_jHjSYclTVyWMoZVHQf4Alflojl5Wa
That should be the playlist. Just FYI, the symbiote doesnโt show up until like the eighth vid or so. The thumbnails should give you an idea of which ones she shows up in.
Man I wish this was in HQ. A pretty good femcel/yandere She-Venom piece. Now that I think back to this post,
>>149338513 I wonder if buff women can even be femcels at times. R63 Eddie having femcel moments might be funny.
Y'know I think all Venom artists in general need to draw any symbiote person with diamond feet/socks/shoes or whatever you call it when they don't do the toes.
I'm getting tired of one being prioritized.
>>149339891>bottom rightComics NEED more adorable monster girls.
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Marvel DOESN'T want (you) to have THIS
Whoa, Andi is quite the bold young woman.
>>149339958Kek I forgot when I posted that the artist included some very SUBTLE graffiti.
>>149339903I feel like I could go into a whole Stan Lee diatribe of superlatives and words like "tintinnabulating" to all you true believers out there about how cute monster girls are what only Mighty Marvel could provide. Instead we get gay bullshit.
Anyway, I guess (you)'s are basically no-prizes.
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Female symbiotes look weird without anything on their heads resembling hair.
>>149340075I can see why you think that anon. I like both. I guess I would have it be a case of the symbiote naturally finding bald to be comfortable but women like hair styles so when they can, then the symbiote fits it. But if a symbiote is tired or injured, I wouldn't mind the hair becoming damaged or gone.
Maybe that's one way of getting both at the same time.
Sorry for the low quality. A lot of my image collection is from old DeviantArt accounts, and the resolution is the way it is. Kind of tech illiterate here. Sorry.
Mania x Ryuko. Quite the astute crossover.
>>149340350Man, symbiotes are OP. But I guess nothing really beats what Adam Warren did with The End issue. That was another missed opportunity there. What's with cheesecake/pin-up artists not being able to full in on doing stuff with symbiotes? Marvel sucks but what else is new.
Anyway, if Kafka had to become a superpowered character, I think she should have been She-Venom. Her slowly realizing the symbiote is sentient, using her psychiatry on it, growing empathy towards it, possibly getting with Eddie, and using the bonding power to jump into people's minds or something like that. Seems riper for storytelling.
Also using her to then talk to MJ who in a twist becomes a patient of hers instead of some group who then talks about her trauma with Venom and Kraven would have dove tailed nicely off KLH and Eddie's first appearances. Maybe Kafka, who is growing more affectionate towards the symbiote, tries to win over MJ and confront her trauma and bonds her to it as well but she doesn't have to immediately become a superhero. Maybe Kafka has to give it to her after an injury. But nah, more disappointment from Marvel with Goblin Queen. Ugh.
Ok anyway I'm going to leave this thread in the hands of others. See ya either tomorrow or the next thread
>>149339931This is fucking great, lol
It'd also be a cool relationship "mechanic" to have MJ be much more a normie than Parker, not really being part of the cape scene and not sharing its (somewhat warped) views and having better common sense than most of the invincible and omnipotent dunces that populate the cape crowd:
>"Just listen to yourselves, are you all insane!?"But at the same time she could've gotten a slightly primitive animalistic side from the symbiote? She generally keeps this well in check since she's a strong-willed person but whenever something makes her lose control, the children or Parker being in imminent and mortal danger etc, she'll go all out in a predatory Wolverine kind of fasion: No quips or show-offing, just rending and tearing until the threat's been thoroughly eviscerated. Parker might recognize this and tries to talk her down if he sees another possible solution.
>>149340341This is cool, looks like it could've been a weird record cover from the 70s or something. The suit itself might clash a little too much but it's a very striking image, colours generally go well along with each other and the white details and "pants" look nice.
I have another She-Venom piece if I can find it later where the spider symbol is like a 00's tribal tattoo on the back. Pretty sexy.
>>149342444Yep that is a more unique one I found. I do like the enigma force being the counter to symbiotes but man did that design and the axe in king in black for Eddie look terrible.
Damn I think a new Venom host getting the hang of it could've made for some good comedic material.
Symbiotes are too sanitized. I want a Symbiote girl that goes around eating people's brains.
The one character I want to make a She-Venom (of sorts) is not /co/, so I really don't have much to suggest here.
>>149342952Donna Diego I think is the most villainous of the females who had a symbiote so I think she could be for you. Haven't read Patricia's run (2003) yet. Yeah symbiotes have become kinda too numerous but also there aren't enough to go around as villains or heros worth a damn. Carnage is only the real one who's still doing shit and now Eddie'a got him so there goes that.
>>149342966Well if it's She-Venom related maybe you could still post it. Mania is posted here since that symbiote is a clone of Venom and looks about the same.
>>149340241>Tail MawItโs really neat, but I feel like whoever designed this definitely has an account on flist.
>>149342966Just say it anyway. We already have Miku-Venom posted earlier in the thread.
>>149343074>>149343090It doesn't actually involve symbiotes, though, instead using it as inspiration for a similar transformation based on the setting's own lore. And given how volatile the subject matter is on these boards in general, I'm reluctant to bring it up. It's not "THAT" show, at least.
If you really want to know who, it's Marianne from Fire Emblem: Three Houses.
>>149340306>off to a good start>improvement putting her into great tier>further improvement>literal perfection>soulless af in one (una, 1) stepWhat did he mean by this?
>>149343307Not too familiar with FE. I assume what you're thinking is like a symbiote but it's like a slime from D&D? Or a demon? Not sure what monsters there are in FE.
>>149343437>she-venom is maydayhuh
>>149343439More of a demon, I guess. It's kind of a complex explanation. Wouldn't really be easy to elaborate on here, but /v/'s always too busy arguing about coombait and which games/translations are total garbage for any proper conversation to get through. And the red boards just want to post images and not talk concepts at all.
>>149343437Are you talking about the hair getting covered? I love symbiotes with or without hair or hair-like appendages, but cโmon dude, you have to admit that the toothy grin is part of the charm.
>>149343439Sinner Takes All set me down the path of monster appreciator. I have no regrets.
>>149343307>spoilerHardly scandalous. I really need to do a Golden Deer playthrough[/spoile]
>>149343439This was the one that awoke something within me.
>>149343533You never know with how these mods and janitors act.
>>149343439>>149343519Alright, basically, the setting of 3H has Demonic Beasts that manifest when humans try to wield certain weapons but lack the ability to control their power. The transformation is fairly symbiote-esque (vid related).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMGCrAlyxGo
Marianne's main character quirk is that she's afraid the same will happen to her. It doesn't in-game, but I love the what-if idea behind it. Seeing the attached pic in FE Heroes for Edelgard where her own giant monster form has a compact partial-TF for when not fighting gave me the same idea for Marianne, just less scaly and more slick like a Marvel symbiote is.
God, I put way too much thought into what is otherwise just me indulging in forcing a fetish on a favorite unrelated character.
>>149343437I would prefer if you don't post A.I. after the whole thread has been posted with artist's work. If the floodgates are open then that would suck ass.
>>149343519>coombait...total garbage>red boards just want to post images and not talk concepts at allYup. That's the rub. At least we get threads like this once in a while.
Hope the FE thing turns out ok. I've been writing my own ideas for a fantasy book I want to use to publish one day and gain some fame/notoriety. That way I could be like that Eltingville guy and infilitrate comics except I'm not a jerk and want to write good shit. Maybe slip in the occasional coom that is more subtle like they did with MJ and Pete fucking all the time in the 80's.
>>149343533Not that anon but I do like in my comics when the host has a black costume type form that then buffs up and gets Venom-like when it wants to. That way we get multiple designs. But yeah I do want more cute toothy grins.
>the path of monster appreciatorYou can't imagine what I felt when I saw Sinner issue 3's cover in middle school on google images. It was immediate. Holy fuck I wanted more of that and it boggled the mind why there wasn't more of it until I came back to reality and lamented how comics were for children. Here they were probably in the Big Time or Superior era hoping kids like me get into comics and I was on the internet gawking at She-Venom. Yup they have been incompetent for so long.
Finally got that rare issue after a while but I could use a better copy. Anyway, yeah her alongside that were-poodle girl from KND, I think those made me appreciate them. I think there's other instances I can't remember but they were probably obvious.
>>149343437You do realize this is AI, right? It's not that he chose to do that but the prompt spew out that.
>>149343781I've been cooking up way more headcanon and reasons for a reluctant character like MJ to become She-Venom like in this post
>>149340393 so you're not alone. The only thing somebody could think is weird is your specific connection between FE and Spider-Man (Lucina and Pete crackshipper jokes aside), but with that vid I can see what you're talking about. I think that transformation type is more generic than symbiotes but they are related. What you said does make it more like symbiotes but that's for good reason because women look good in skin-tight shiny latex/goop. Plus I think everybody sees one character get something sexy happen to them but you'd prefer it on a different character (i.e. me wanting MJ to be She-Venom because Anne hasn't had as much character development).
You know the movie failed since nobody talks about the female symbiotes
>>149344006This looks like the work of Marvel-lapdogs. At least the chinese were willing to do something like pic rel and
>>149340241Hela is not fully enveloped but it's close enough. Maybe it is good she isn't and there's variety but I dunno I always a like a full costume. I hope more symbiote costumes if they come, are more like Squirrel Girl's.
>>149340241Every symbiote having powers of webs is stupid. You don't see Carnage zipping all over town
>>149344194I know, right? I especially dislike when all symbiotes share the Venom emblem when they have no connection to him or Spidey to begin with. At least put different emblems in its place.
>>149343942Maybe someday, I'll try to get out a fanfic about the idea, but thanks for at least understanding what I had hoped to explain.
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>>149344108Deadpool Samurai, a manga.
The joke is an Idol has Movie Venom eating people and she doesn't care as long its not her fans.
>>149344245Yeah no I get that and that manga can be funny with the whole Fire Punch thing but the fact she turns into a huge masculine form was what I meant by lapdogs. Anime doesn't have to fall into tropes like small girl wanting huge boobs and playing into breast envy all the time for the easy laughs but the fact it doesn't happen here is kinda what I mean. It looks like Marvel had a hand in making that form to be the case. I'm not saying that's 100 percent true but I know how Marvel thinks.
>>149344335Venom eating people is funnier then She-Venom eating people.
It's really that simple.
are there any stories about a world where the symbiote has fully taken over and everyone has their own suit?
>>149344219Damn Cates and his idea of the rule of cool being the lamest stuff possible leading to further confusion. Marvel can't even put in the dragon symbol on everything. Because Venom was still connected to Spidey as a franchise for so long without bonding to other people/aliens or all the symbiotes made by writers being born from Venom or Carnage, we don't have nearly as many symbiotes completely divorced from Spidey.
We haven't even seen a symbiote just chilling on an alien planet somewhere that has no spider-powers. That and the lack of any rules being established, we get inconsistent shit all the time. Fuck. I mean I don't want too many rules as a cosmic horror villain needs mystery but some would be nice. Cthulu had to be destroyed at the end some way or else the whole world would end. Sonics and fire aren't the end all, be all.
>>149344243Yep. No problem. I need to write too instead of posting here but man I just wanted to see if other anons would post She-Venoms too.
Anyway, another idea I had that even though Cates run sucks, I like the history angle where they showed up earlier in history. A nun during the middle ages getting a symbiote would be baller. Perfect reluctant heroine and the black and white fits the same idea Eddie had when he used the symbiote to be a priest in 300. Maybe the symbiote could have bonded with animals and given the nun the powers of those animals or with a norse character like Enchantress.
Also, in follow up to
>>149336946I have another question to ask,
Who do MJ and the symbiote specifically like?
Answer: Peter! What a lucky guy.
All New Venom really is just a big fuck you to the fans.
>>149344379Whatever floats your boat I guess.
>>149344505Not that I am aware of. Here is an idea I am reposting from an old thread along similar lines. Long post incoming:
One idea I had is an AU story where symbiotes become a common place fashion item in the 1950's/1960's but it turns into an invasion of the body snatchers type story where MJ (or other character) is a TV actress/model who becomes one of several models who become ambassadors to symbiotes. The first symbiote crash lands on Earth and meets G-men agents who talk to it and manage to get a deal where they feed on emotions and adrenaline while humans benefit from all their powers and more.
Symbiotes become both a fashionable clothing product and a new pet/friend for people to use to become part of a proto-social network. Eventually this leads to body issues where people can change how they look totally and it leads to an eventual turn for the symbiotes to become corrupted by paranoia and the symbiotes adapting too much to their hosts. Also 50/60's girls become so fashion forward and trends go by so fast that they try out 80's and 90's emo/goth looks.
They split into tribes as well, and the once hivemind, is now split. The humans are actually chill and think it is a utopia while the symbiotes are becoming paranoid and drunk on the excess emotions. The humans get brainwashed as symbiotes get addicted and MJ has to use her special symbiote that is bonded perfectly to her in order to stop nuclear holocaust and does so by going without the symbiote nude (possibly too indulgent of an idea) for a little while to evade detection and maybe she finds Thor's hammer to undo the brainwashing. The story is a prolonged version of the Thneeds and the dangers of fear/lack of confidence.
Either way, the symbiotes and people are actually massive perverts in their own homes but in public everyone isn't ashamed of their symbiote bodies. Maybe the novelty wears off.
>>149344664youโve got me full mast at work now. good shit.
>Either way, the symbiotes and people are actually massive perverts in their own homes but in public everyone isn't ashamed of their symbiote bodies.so no mass public symbiote orgies?
>>149344664Finally to continue off that idea I was imagining something like out of the Twilight Zone to begin the story in homage to Ditko's type of work when he was working on those sci-fi books. After all Amazing Fantasy 15's ending is Twilight Zone-esque. Anyway, a typical American family all of sudden sees each of their neighbors in different contexts and notes their monstrous symbiote appearance.
A son meets the next door girl and is frightened of her toothy face, the mother notices a tall mysterious woman wearing all black clothes with unnerving eyes and a long tongue, and the father runs into the neighbor as he uses tentacles to light up his cigar on his way to work.
Each of them kind of tells them to not be worried and suddenly ads about this new clothing item are brought on later that night and news broadcasts are then shown saying aliens are real and they're here to help you. Fast-forward and large metal boxes are shipped to people's homes and the symbiotes start to spread and the story then moves to how life changes. Maybe the beginning has the symbiotes say they are the Krobaa and come in peace and the ending has Krobaa from that Seed of Darkness -1 issue show up and he reveals the symbiotes were malevolent and that he is the actual Krobaa, who came here only to explore and make peace. A good ol' bleak twist ending.
Finally my last idea I had was MJ in the 1980's with her 80's hair and her supermodel career taking off due to her symbiote creating new clothes that look good on her. Think of Earth Girls Are Easy with a cheesy, 80's, alien plot having a supermodel babysit an alien symbiote. Peter, Flash, Eddie, Silver Sable, and Felicia all are included as fun side characters.
Ok that's all my ideas.
>>149344847Damn my own writing got another anon hard? Maybe I have a future in writing some day, lol. Yeah I dunno I guess now that I think about it the 60's was free love so maybe some Brave New World type orgies happen I dunno. I kinda like the idea that symbiotes don't want to mix because they want their own emotion fix and are kinda addicts who want each other to get their own host. Maybe some are connosieurs who treat other symbiotes as plebs who feed off animals like dogs but maybe those symbiotes are the happiest because of the steady fix of simple desires animals have. Kind of weird to think about.
Some cool Fallout-esque, alt-past type advertisements with cute cartoon versions of symbiote characters would be really cool. Also Peter would be like Ditko and he'd be a shut-in conspiracy type guy who is suspicious of symbiotes and is scared of them. But he in the end is MJ's slavation taking her in when she is nude. He maybe is the one who has met a symbiote who is also burned out by addiction and is experimenting on it to see if he can solve the world's incoming collapse.
>>149345006Oh yeah and if you go back to IRL history, there are a bunch of PSA's and educational videos about keeping your emotions in check in the 1950's. So yeah this whole idea kinda plays off that sudden reversal in American culture.
>>149343784>You can't imagine what I felt when I saw Sinner issue 3's cover in middle school on google imagesWe are alike, you and I. But yeah, for me it was browsing issues of Venom because I was interested in the character at the time. Saw the cover of the third issue and immediately tried to seek out similar stuff, only to be disappointed in how little there was available. At least in recent years people have come around to that sort of character design more.
>>149344103I wish it did better, because I loved seeing all of them on the big screen, and would have loved an Agony spinoff that they totally weren't fishing for since Hardy was looking to take a break from the series. At least it made up for how depressing She-Venom's appearance in Let There Be Carnage was. They totally nerfed her design in that one.
Man after reposting that I got the creative juices flowing again, how do these ideas sound?
>Iron Man in this universe is under control of the hivemind and alongside Cap leads to world peace and the ceasing of the Cold War, Tony also is building rockets to explore space unknowingly playing into the symbiote's hands as they want to conquer worlds
>Thor is still in Asgard but has sent his hammer for someone to pick up so that they can use, I dunno this is the most flimsy of ideas
>Hulk is hulk and still treated badly because the radiation is harmful to symbiotes
>Peter used to work for Oscorp and was the Brigid Tenenbaum basically where he created new powers for the symbiotes to use like invisibility and web slinging. But he became disillusioned by the proto-social network/hivemind and what effects it would have.
>Thus he also secretly gives the symbiotes the weakness of sound and fire or makes that inherent weakness even more detrimental to them. He also hoards Elvis rock music and gasoline to use in case.
>As I said MJ is a famous model, advertising spokeswoman for symbiotes. She becomes more disillusioned over time as the effects of the addiction wear on her and the symbiote. She both has to keep her emotions in check so that the symbiote doesn't want even greater emotional responses but also to have some so that it doesn't go into withdrawal.
>This causes all media to become somewhat safe and sex to become boring or dangerous, possibly. Too many emotions could cause someone to go on a rampage. Haven't fleshed this all the way out.
Man, there are a lot of fun ideas in this thread.
Out of curiosity, I looked up She-Venom and found an article from a few years ago detailing her comic history since she was in the public conscious thanks to the movies. Apparently, it was revealed in Venom: The End that Anne Weying was one of the symbiote's most compatible hosts.
Also, she appeared as She-Venom in a nightmare sequence in which she bites off Eddie's head during a crossover with Rune from Malibu Comics in 1995. I never even knew that this existed. Pic related.
Here's the article for anyone who is interested: https://www.looper.com/616463/the-untold-truth-of-she-venom/
>Spider-sense...all good. *phew* Man I sure do like sitting here without a care in the world and no possibility of being assaulted by some great humongous slime monster.
>>149346337this is exactly how they should get back together
This pic makes me want more light blue She-Venom. Also, for some reason the way this artist drew this makes the goop look either very soft or like it has a denim texture for some reason. Like you took some jeans right out of the dryer.
This was a nice design. The tongue being put in place for the sash is nice.
Ah I finally took the time to look for that tribal back tattoo design I was thinking of.
>>149346843I just want a cute symbiote gf to enjoy some nice, quality chocolate with. Is that so much to ask for, universe? I'd even give her squares off of my own bar.
I'm surprised Budd Root's love of monsters and people who commission stuff have never asked him to do a She-Venom one. Weird.
>>149346924>symbiote toe ringsInteresting.
Ok my stash of SFW pics of She-Venom is starting to run low and I have to go somewhere for a couple of hours.
Maybe I can find more elsewhere. Either way more pics of Miku and Mania are welcome. If it gets to a point maybe this can be expanded to a general female symbiotes thread. I mean I'd like to have a whole thread of great She-Venom art to post but I am not sure we are at that point with SFW specifically.
>>149347080I used to have a huge collection of She-Venom art. I think it's on an old hard drive, so I'll have to go digging for it.
Thanks for sharing your horde though. I really love the huge variety of designs that people come up with.
>>149347110Yep I tried to provide a good thread quality by keeping it varied and not just posting one artist the whole time or posting an artist's entire collection of She-Venom art.
When I have gone on here I just use google and saucenao to get the rest or try other methods to track down stuff so I did the same as others and let anons who are interested track stuff down by using each image to get a wide collection. Also sparks more ideas.
I've got a lot of symbiote art where it's coming off a nude girl or stuff like that but I wanted to have this thread consist mostly of the She-Venom design itself.
One more Kill la Kill one.
I don't know about you guys but Wagner's art is like the most aggressively 00's style that is still specific to a niche style I have seen. Like it basically is another version of Adam Warren's style and the style you'd see in generic 00's advertising or that game Monster Madness: Battle for Suburbia
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>>149345407She-Venom Carols are rare
>>149350282Yup. You could imagine my dread when what happened with All-New Venom was what happened. Luckily it was not as bad as I thought it would be, so far. In a way the irrelevance of comics helped.
I feel for any She-Venom Carol anons out there.
>>149314511 (OP)>>149317030>>149317231>>149321774I DEFINITELY want to fuck a female symbiote
I'd even marry one
How big do you prefer she venom?
>>149350446Not sure there are any but I won't pollute the thread with the other way
>>149345481Another musing upon this idea but maybe sudden bursts of strong emotions causes these rampages. So even a really funny joke could cause someone to suddenly become murderous and rip others apart. Luckily symbiotes allow people to heal and regenerate and maybe the general populace starts to get more violent and over time they get more on edge where any violence could cause a huge superpowered riot. The parts of the hivemind where this doesn't happen limits this but eventually it could create a domino effect that it can't suppress.
Sports now become gladiator matches that only more addicted symbiotes and hosts go out to see.
Also the chocolate business? Yeah it's boomin' and becomes essential.
>>149350482Domo arigato, anon-san for understanding.
>>149350466Big enough to be abnormally tall like the movie or 10 ft tall or something a bit taller. Not sure. Proportions I like? Like the Inguatami pic or
>>149346867That's all to maintain excitement, look...pleasing, and realistic enough to do...stuff. ( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
The monstrously tall stuff where everything is huge is good for novelty and gawking at. On the comic page? Same deal except when the scenario calls for different heights and proportions. If she gotta grow, she'll grow.
What would the texture of a symbiote feel like? Regular skin? The fabric of the clothing it was attempting to emulate? Oily? Smooth and slippery? Inquiring minds need to know!
>>149351413Whatever you want man. That's another inconsistent thing about them but I guess that's the point. Peter strikes me as the type of guy to get skeeved out about simple, reasonable things if he freaked out about it being alive. Then that probably means it felt like fabric at first and in our more detailed comics it either can look like fabric or oily goo. So it can change.
Though my personal preference, I guess fabric that's real soft. Women though? I bet they can make it comfy inside but they should have skin that's slippery, smooth, and whatever feels good...to touch ( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
That's a funny power idea though. Venom could be like Slyde and slip right out of somebody trying to grab him.
If anybody knows about Jobby, yes he did draw this. Madoka, Godzilla, Prime. She-Venom? Falls somewhere between Madoka and Prime. She-Venom Madoka? I wonder if that exists...
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>>149314511 (OP)>white palms and bottoms of feetI enjoy
>>149351801This is gonna sound weird, but are you black or do you like black girls? Because black people have like lighter palms and soles of their feet. I mean I don't mind and I don't really have an opinion, I just felt like testing out this observation.
>>149322774That's literally just Aoko
>>149354350Equally as strong as regular Venom since it's the same symbiote but she could be weaker depending on the writer since in some stories Venom is bulky because of Eddy being bulky and in others Venom can be that big no matter who he possesses and whether the size of the muscles even matter or not for the symbiote I am not sure since it could be something like condensed muscles
>>149354350She should be weaker and rely more on stabbing and slashing attacks. I mean she can still get angry and get buff to where she is only slightly weaker that Venom but she is still weaker. The symbiote got Eddie's strength but Eddie actually being there would make it stronger.
>>149355938Does Eddie's strength even contribute anything of note?
Like let's say Eddie has a power level of 5, the Symbiote has a power level of 500. It's a drop in the bucket.
>>149356107Something about the symbiote only reaching that level if the host is already that strong so by your numbers the symbiote acts less like a suit with 500 an more like a "100x" multiplier
>>149356429Not that anon but yeah that's how I saw it too.
Damn how could I forget about this one.
Yup a monster inside a xeno. This can't get any more layered than that. HMOFA is getting quite a boost these days.
This pic? Slim but seductive.
One other obvious per Venom and Spidey in general has is the fact the mask creates the same appeal as mob faces. Universal appeal.
Another part of Venom's appeal specifically to the Japanese is that his head when it comes off Eddie, acts as a chibi form obviously, the symbiote can go on anyone making it a self-insert fantasy even more than Spider-Man, the simplistic black and white design fits manga especially, and a lot of manga has a demon type figure inhabiting the protag to kick off the story. Man if Marvel instead wrote new characters who'd use it in unique ways that would be cool. Like an anthology.
>>149357819Japan likes venom?
>>149357819It also makes the boob socks more acceptable since it acts like an in-built bra. Hey. Maybe the mighty endowed could us a Venom in her life?
>>149357829Well maybe perhaps Asia in general. I think the movie did ok in China but I am assuming on that one. There is a fair bit of chibi art of him and a decent amount of Japanese artists have done symbiote art. I think they might have done some Mania art as well. There was an anon once who showed more evidence and explained it better but I can't find it right now.
There's also some statues by companies like Kotobukiya like one based off a design by the character designer for Trigger projects like Gurren Lagann. Or figures by Revoltech like a cool Agent Venom one I just saw. Yep, even the weapon-otaku have a Venom character to latch onto.
Anyway, I know we shouldn't make requests but damn there's this piece by feralghoulishnino that's a pretty good She-Venom look with the spiked shoulder pads that Flash had.
Damn instagram sign in, I'd save that but google doesn't have a high quality version and Instagram doesn't allow downloads with somebody who doesn't have an account. Pinterest also sucks in that way.
>>149358048You know I constantly see or here about westerners having waifues and husbendos or whatever but I never see Japan having stuff like that for western media because western media in general doesn't seem as popular there
>>149358222Well if you go into any East vs. West threads or crossover threads you'll see the before times in the 00's and 10's when PPG, TT, MLAATR, AT, etc. were bigger.
The reason that isn't case anymore? Same reason why /co/ media as a whole has diminished is because talent and money has diminished due to schools being run by morons, the economy in general being harsher towards entertainment now, streaming being unmonentizable, and incompetent showrunners/creators/writers/artists who value the wrong things regarding universal appeal or targeting any specific demographic.
Also Marvel doesn't really try too hard with finding or hiring mangaka who would put forth more substantial work. But I might be mistaken. If anybody could say more about why Fake Red was cancelled I'd like to hear it. I kinda forgot.
This one? Another vital one to the collection/folder.
I posted this artist before but this looks like a new one to me. The teeth acting as a belt while the tongue is her bra is inspired. Women, would like a long laffy taffy tongue acting as your bra? This is important information.
Now that I think about it, if there were a bunch of She-Venom's running around that'd be a lot of green slime flying all over the place when they walked. I think the jannies would be happier cleaning those messes up. It'd look like Double Dare or the Kids Choice Awards, kek.
You show up at what is basically an Eyes Wide Shut party in your spidey costume you bought at Spirit or Party City or whatever. You didn't know it was gonna be this sinister and secretive looking and all the women are dressed like pic rel in various colors of symbiote. What would you do? Me? I'd spill my spaghetti but I'd try to sneak a pic of the tongue to prove aliens are real to /x/, get caught, and then hopefully some hentai scenario happens. Good end, hopefully. Or I'm like Tom Cruise except with no wife and I just go on with my life.
>>149357989Man I kept forgetting to respond. Yep I guess she would make great use of that. Don't know her character too well but does she like her boobs hanging out? She seems to flash them quite a bit so I'd think she doesn't care if they flop around.
I guess the symbiote would cover them while they flop around still but if she flashes them a bunch I'd think she's an exhibitionist and Venom kinda defeats the purpose of that. I dunno.
>>149358633>beltAh I meant skirt. That's I think that artist's attempt at doing a ryuko 1 to 1 instead of their OC.
This is the OG that started that short trend.
>>149322774Female serial murders, at least those that have been studied, are often process killers, in that they kill to achieve an objective rather than make serial murderers who often use it as an outlet for sexuality and self loathing, but those women who do gain pleasure from murder have the same violent fantasies as men; in that they fantasize about overpowering people, ripping them apart, and violating what's left.
The problem comes that women are, by and large, physically weaker, due to both biology and the social stigma of a woman with even a modicum of muscle. This means that a female serial murderer often has to adapt her urges to something more feasible, which is why so many of them use poison, chemicals, or some times fire arms.
However, if a deranged woman were to be empowered by a symbiote, making her stronger than the vast majority of baseline humans, male or female, on the planet, we can safely assume that she would not need to alter her fantasy world, and could more easily indulge in it, even more so than any other serial killer.
Long thought made short; provided Cleo Cassidy was the type of female serial killer to get sexual gratification from murder, be it before, during, or after the murder, she would be flicking her bean and pounding her holes and orgasming as she rips people limb from limb.
Such evil could feed into the nascent god complex that the vast majority of serial killers tend to have to one degree or another.
So not only would she be pounding away at herself, she'd also be ranting and raving about how she's a goddess of sex and destruction and how the whole world is meant to die in agony for her amusement.
>>149359207So the female serial killer that's rare is one who is the same as a male one like Dahmer. What are the majority of these female murderers like? They're just murderers who do it in order to get money, out of a family/relationship, fame, or some other reason? That sounds to me like the same as the vast majority of male murderers and murderers in general. Not serial ones. It seems like the distinction you made was that serial killers specifically between men and women is that women masturbate to feel power while men do it in order to just satisfy an urge. Makes sense. Women tend to get off on concepts/ideas more and men just get off because they're wired to focus on sex more instead of who the best mate is. I guess that's why women like to write fan fiction and men just want art/images to look at.
But when we get enough of that, then we have to resort to maybe complicating it a bit more with novel scenarios that women start with.
Either way, I hope that blood Cleo is covered in isn't what it could otherwise be...ugh.
Honestly I respect that not a single post here has been the awful new MJ venom
>>149359331Serial murder is almost always in service of a compulsion, and a lot of the time it's sexual, for both men and women, however it can be for social or material gain, a lot of the time it can be for both.
This is the difference between a murderer and a serial murderer (theres also the fact that almost every single serial murderer follows a few benchmarks, like putting themselves into situations where they feel they can "justify" their first murder or two, and then "cool off" periods where they don't hurt any one, but that's a whole thing too).
>It seems like the distinction you made was that serial killers specifically between men and women is that women masturbate to feel power while men do it in order to just satisfy an urge. Both men and women do it to feel powerful, and to satisfy their urge. A wire almost always crosses in their Brain that connects sex with power(this often why they have anti personal tendencies or some times straight up psychopathy, because they just didn't get that "social creature" part of the human package). Women have a harder time doing it since they are usually weaker. A man can simple grab a woman and drag her into a bush. Have you ever seen a 5'2" 90 pound woman drag a man into a bush? This why their fantasy worlds often have to adapt to their reality(their fantasy worlds almost always do, male or female. For example, I believe one notorious killer dreamed about having a castle where he could rape women by the dozens and then grind them up in a meat grinder by the hundreds, but he was a door to door salesman so obviously he couldn't afford that).
What I'm trying to say is that male and female serial killers are almost the exact same, but society and biology makes the women have to adapt to being more subtle. But with a symbiote, the fantasy of murdering thousands can come true.
I forgot that Carol technically does have an official non-male Venom form
>>149359415That's the idea, I'm doing this out of spite towards it. They put out a bunch of variants of her as She-Venom and then do this shit. It's pure outrage farming to maximize money and put no effort towards comics and to demoralize guys like me, Carlos Gomez, and other cheesecake appreciators. Yeah the identity and all that shit as well as their explanations in those Venom Unleashed columns are as bullshit as what Insomniac said for the 2nd game. Next they'll do She-VenoMJ but then have Greg Land do all the art and then ask why nobody bought it. They're crafty like that.
They do shit like that and then ask why the sales aren't doing good. It's so obvious.
Also yeah Marvel editorial is full of what I like to call El Faggot Supremos.
And if it was all Ewing's idea and he couldn't think of a way to write around MJ having a She-Venom body while maintaining an identity? Then he's a dumbass because I could do that shit easily and he is leaving sales on the table.
Maybe what Insomniac said about them wanting to do Scream instead to be original is truthful but that is pretty convenient of them. That's why some of this maybe a schizo conspiracy theory but Marvel doesn't get the benefit of the doubt after Avengers Disassembled and OMD, two of the most orchestrated and artifcial handicapping of creative potential we have ever seen.
>>149359480Ok I get what you're saying now.
>>149359415I'm fine with the bodytype but I hate that the bonding was forced, MJ proving her hero bona fides by looking past their past to save symby's life would've been great
>>149359550Iโm right there with you, anon. If the amount of art Iโve seen here and around the internet is any indication, I believe the majority of people would prefer a design more in line with
>>149359331Hell, the reaction to the kiss scene in the first Venom movie tells us the same thing.
Oh right, before I forget:
>tfw no She-Venom gf to surf the web, surf the web with
>>149359606Putting aside our different tastes, isn't it funny Spidey still got his costume idea from Julia? And Marvel still hasn't addressed that or put out another nostalgia-mini to go over that point? Cates really just played the modern writer card of retconning and not even addressing shit like that. I mean I guess it is a small point but Julia deserves more recognition.
Also yes, MJ's mother-like, nurturing nature would have been great. I feel like if Spencer took a crack at it, it would have mirrored Felicia taking care of Billy Connors. Spidey also beating up Carnage Norman while a bit fucked from a powerscaling perspective, was very cathartic after Slott's humiliation ritual that lasted for years.
>>149359660WAGMI. I believe. Man Jennifer Hale from that game with a symbiote voice modulator/effect to it would be absolute kino.
>>149359550I don't mind ladies like MJ in buff and manly symbiote bodies like the Venom standard, but that should be reserved for emergency "Hulking out" scenarios. Casual mode should be shapely and curvy.
>>149359737Agreed, Symbiote should look like body paint, unless the host actively wants to change their body shape.
>tfw no symbiote carrying sticc GF who decides "hmmm, I want fat fucking milkers rn" and goes venom mode and inflates her breasts
>>149359737Yeah no I'm not against MJ getting buff and big in enraged form. I'm not one of those anons who calls anons gay for liking buff women, I just want her to have some boobs and ass of some kind so I can still tell it's a woman. Yeah Venom is supposed to be big and cool but fan artists have shown in this thread clearly both can be done.
Also yeah that angle is also good too because I like powerful women who still have feminimity. Whether it's a reluctant shy girl, a tomboy, a reluctant shy tomboy, a gigastacy, a shy gigastacy, or a shy, reluctant, gigastacy who also happens to be you guessed it, a tomboy, lol. Basically I like a lot of different qualities in women because humans are multifacted and it makes writing, art, and porn more interesting.
>>149359795Yep this anon gets it. That's why they call it the LIVING COSTUME.
Also thanks anon for reminding me of pic rel. Thank you to archive as well. Managed to find it pretty easily. I think there's a Scream version as well.
Even though I like the concept put forth by this piece
>>149359391 it should still be around the size of the wearer. Doesn't mean bits of the symbiote can't grow a little bit or shift around. Also I think that there's various methods of symbiotes being able to gain mass.
Just going to leave this here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs7i_5q5cSU
>>149360042Kek black autism, ladies and gentlemen. Not to kick a guy when he's down in life but it's unfortunate he's trying to do the fast editing style to make it more comedic which is admirable and fits this type of 2000's video style that has been made popular again with channels like degenerosity, but his reading capabilities from the script and the lack of appropriate pacing when reading the sentence or intonation, mispronounciation, and kind of casual non-comittal acting is like everything you can get wrong in a video. It also doesn't help he's just regurgitating wiki entries. But guess people have to start somewhere. The A.I. background though, lol.
>>149360194Oh fuck nevermind he's been doing that kind of vid for 2 years with A.I. thumbnails and backgrounds during that whole time. Kek. What a shame.
>>149357219Sex with a symbiote dinosaur!
>>149360364Not to get off-topic but slight Deltatune spoilers, any /co/ anons who don't know much should play Undertale and Deltarune at least if you don't know about it through Homestuck.
Anyway, I thought from the book in Kris's drawer, that basically points towards her being a dragon? I know she doesn't have wings but I feel like that's some set-up to her getting a dragon form later or her parents will be more obviously dragons.
It's not a strong connection but with the medieval and fantasy theme-ing going on, I thought that would be the case in the future. But I guess with the Susiezilla segment that goes against my idea. Anyway whether she's a dragon or dinosaur, symbiotes have been both. So she should get one in fan art, lol.
>>149360195That bicep is terrifying, wish I know how to draw muscles like that
Also to other female symbiote enjoyers out there, if you want more symbiote-adjacent stuff there's Warhammer 40k Callidus Assassins. They take polymorphine and their suit allows them to do mostly just disguise stuff but their designs are somewhat close to what we appreciate about symbiotes.
Also Marvel straight up ripped off them to do Black Widow's Venom design.
Yes another crossover image and it's one I don't know much beyond it's basically some creepypasta VN. But it did give me the idea that if another Venom artist trend happens, it should probably be this 3-panel sequence.
This hair for Anne is pretty good and 90's-esque.
This design is alright. Kind of wished she also had a mask design but it's still cute.
I'll post a bit more of her but not too much.
I love symbiote asscheeks
No shame to you buff-musclefags, but I'm more of a lean-musclefag myself.
>>149360949>>149360990>>149361004I hate animified shit
anime is fine but when it's crammed where it doesnt belong or only depicted as the same cutesy girls it becomes lame as hell and ruins what it gets fused with
like an anime venom wouldnt be bad but this fucking sucks
>>149361030Ok I was gonna post pic rel as the last one anyway, can't please everyone.
>>149361020Respect. I like a realistic amount and/or a normal amount too. I just find the buffer ones quickly when I am trying to find stuff for the thread. Venom is unfortunately inundated with hyper *insert here* a lot of the time alongside other fetishes I don't particularly like.
>>149361161sorry for sounding like a dick but I always wanted to say it
>>149361161Shit I posted the wrong one. Oh well.
>>149361172Oh ok. Well in either case, you could find and contribute some horror-inspired, monstrous, and edgy She-Venoms. As long as you know, they aren't NSFW, don't fall into insane fetish categories that I don't think any of us like in this thread, and are of sufficient drawing quality.
But yeah I appreciate the sentiment. I don't want Venom to fall into anime stuff all the time.
Fucking damn it this is good. I just saw Inugatami's Twitter and saw this. Can this guy go back to She-Venom and do that drawing with the sams treatment as this one?
Man...furries really do be crazy but they crazy at drawing at the same time.
Alright I'm gonna take a break.
>>149361458how can I learn muscle anatomy like this?
>>149361505I think you have to literally just be good at visualizing stuff even more than usual lime how Jim Lee described anatomy in The Comic Book Greats where he thinks of muscles as various shapes and how they connect together. Also a bunch of medical books, anatomy books, and drawing books from the 20th Century that are more serious are probably your best bet. Don't which are the best ones. Everyone always points to Loomis in one way or another. I want to learn drawing eventually but I need to write first. That's more my passion.
>>149361594I am actually learning how to draw using pencil and paper but progress is slow, mainly because of procrastination
>>149361643Hey man same deal here. I'm procrastinating here too. I should be writing my novel.
But yeah anyway, I watched that Comic Book Greats vid again and Jim Lee said he looked at George Bridgman and his work to get his idea of how to draw anatomy in motion and how the muscles work together to create movements. Pretty fascinating. Not sure how much that helps. I guess his books are probably helpful.
Now that I think about it, symbiote characters must be pretty good material to learn anatomy from and are probably easier to draw in some way. It really puts a test to someone's anatomy skills though.
Funny how Alex Ross when he painted Venom still hated him but admitted he turned out to be one of the best pieces of his from a pure drawing/art perspective.
>>149361732Good luck with that man, the novel that is
and yeah symbiotes are not just gooey but also...muscular, like even the non buff ones still have fibers upon fibers of shredded muscles when they are solid instead of morphing or being liquid like when not having a host and when the character shapeshifts you gotta mix between the muscular parts and the gooey parts and even the sharp parts if its a blade instead of a tentacle that they morphed, difficult shit
same with prototype(Alex mercer)
>>149361773Interesting.
I hope an indie dev takes a crack at physics-based web slinging on a grand scale and makes it more refined. Good thing that movement couldn't be patented by Activision in vidya because it's a simulation of physics. Add some wall combat and weapons and that'd make for a good time.
Character creator? Yeah there'd be one. And two massive features on the model would definitely have their own physics when swinging around if you catch my drift.
>>149360224Guess Knight said something bad a bout a type of female you wanted to waifu.
>>149362773You mad I pointed out simplistic things anyone with a vague knowledge of what makes a good video would know, not to do. You can believe it or not but I skimmed only that one video and then gazed at the other videos and that's all I did.
What would I gain from tearing down a video's technical details and poor decisions if somebody so incompetent at making videos said that my waifu was trash? Clout? I'm not the one with the Youtube channel here.
Alright well anons I can't really find any more art that is She-Venom and looks good, is fully encased by the mask, is sfw, and doesn't involve some other thing that would taint the thread. I could post images of statues and variants but I don't want to shill statues. Variants are pretty accessible, right?
So yeah I don't mind if people could find more or just talk. But yeah I think I posted enough in this thread.
>>149363971As a longtime She-Venom enthusiast and appreciator, Iโm grateful for your service. This thread has been a real treat, so thanks for sharing!
>>149364144Check'd. Yep I tried to make it that way. One day there will be enough art that is accessible to get these threads really going. Maybe then we'll get regular threads. I dunno. We need a boon like Rivals, Tokon, a manga, or a far-off MVC 4 to put She-Venom in. That'd speed things up.
But until then I'll try not to procrastinate as much. This was one of those times I wanted to go full ham on 4chan and contribute.
Kinda funny that guy defended that knight video. Makes me think it was that youtuber. I mean Slott of all people has been on here before.
Oh yeah and one final thing, but fuck Reign 2. I bought that shitty comic and that was some fucking disappointment. At least it didn't completely dunk on Peter. But putting aside the Venom stuff, there was hardly any point to the story that wasn't already covered by Reign 1. Fucking waste of time.
Let's hope JMD's TAS is serviceable enough and Beyond the Spider-Verse tanks.
>>149357159Nice clean piece, cool contrasts.
>>149365126Some old dudes who released an album in 1981: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzTJnn6ZQ7E
>Which way, white man?>classic venomHuge, imposing and with a giant Violator-esque grin filled with teeth that could snip off a limb: It's a classic and one that goes very well with, and on, the ladies. Examples are Venom himself of course, but I think Agony also is a very nice variant of this. Carnage, a bit one-sided as his character is, actually makes for a nice remix of the concept with his thin, wiry frame that gives him a creepy shape. "What if Gollum mixed up with the Thing (movie, not F4) and having the Hulk's capacity"
>no mouthThe Mania, and also original Parker+symbiote, design that skips the grinning jaw, shark teeth and lets the eyes dominate the face: A sort of ninja version of a symbiote. Mania's obviously a very well designed character but
>>149343437 and
>>149352742 are cool examples of this version as well.
>not quite humanThis is an odd fanart-only thing(?) I assume, since the symbiote can't mutate nor shapechange the host/human body. It's a flawed concept,
>>149361040 kinda sucks and
>>149359550 is mostly just fanservice (alright for a pinup I guess), but
>>149361004 actually looks pretty cool in that she's somewhat buff, i.e. a physical threat, and her menacing but still cognizant look alludes to some actual personality.
>>149314511 (OP)>MJ goes full yandere as she-venom
>>149369184The question is, what type/form of MJ would be best? I'd say 80's big hair MJ or classic hair MJ are the best but teen friend in high school who dresses like a punk rocker or emo girl is pretty good too. Something like how Theartistjf drew her clothes. Too bad that guy is kind of a lame-o who hates young people through his weird political opinions and his art style isn't for everybody. But that MJ? Pretty cute and attractive.
Ult MJ by Bagley is also pretty cute.
>>149369479symbiote milkers...
>>149369479My, Mai, people really like giving the symbiote to fighting game characters. I've seen more than a few Juri Venoms as well.
>>149369184I wish that VenoMJ looked like that. I don't know if this is necessarily a controversial take, but I'm not a fan of the gold color that all-new Venom has either...
>>149370537Yeah that coloring is pretty shit and the design is too similar to Meteorite or Carol's Captain Marvel.
If MJ was truly seeing herself as Venom like they say she is, wouldn't she have the right coloring? I dunno I haven't read it too closely if the Jackpot thing is the reason why it's gold.
Either way, it looks ugly and that's kinda the big no-no when you're trying to design something.
Her big 80's hair look could also function as unkempt femcel/yandere hair kinda like Typhoid Mary. Except the hair could also be black and made from the symbiote. That's one idea.
>>149314511 (OP) How many times had Peter had a love interest who was a Venom or another symbiote and I'm only counting females but I would count cartoons cuz I know Mary Jane was has had a symbiote in one of those.
>>149372774I think that Ult or 2017 cartoon whichever had MJ like that, that Spider-Man Power Pack issue, and Gwen in the OG Ultimate Spider-Man are the closest to what you described even though Peter never really got close to Gwen in that series. Also we discussed in this thread Reign 2 and Insomniac Spider-Man 2 already.
So far only the Power Pack issue has been the only worthwhile use of this concept and luckily it was just a fun series that didn't try too much.
>>149373014It also is the first to do the concept in comics. So gay ass current Marvel can never erase that fact. It's an alt continuity but that don't matter with how fucked 616 is.
>>149373063Did she dieded?
>>149373451She got better.
>>149373467Just like this thread and Spider-Girl, it can't be killed!
Is fucking venom gay or bisexual
>>149357219Any version with Noelle or berdly using venom?
I just can't do it bros; no matter how hard I try, how sexy or feminine the symbiote, I just can't accept it. Maybe it's because I was only really aware of Venom and Carnage growing up, but in my mind they and the symbiotes are intrinsically linked. Slap tits on a xenomorph and I'm diamonds, but symbiotes do nothing for me.
>>149373852Literally in Amazing issue 362 Eddie off-panel consults the symbiote and then says the symbiote itself says they reproduce asexually. So it has no gender. But I guess that doesn't rule out what gender it would desire if presented with humans who are one sex or another. So take that as you will.
I guess if you let it put tentacles in a girl or a man long enough it might just prefer that one over the other.
>>149373861No. The closest I could find was a piece of Noelle freaking out about secret identities and asking if anyone else had one and then susie is taking off her shirt to reveal her Spider-Man costume.
>>149374128Damn. That's unfortunate. Xenomorphs are like the most phallic thing possible and Geiger was going for that. I guess their torsos are kinda feminine but whatever you do you anon. Female Yautja? Now that's more to my liking. I for one saw Venom in a TPB I had of his initial appearances, thought it would be cool to have Spider-Man's powers by wearing the costume, but then saw 80's MJ and imagined her wearing it. Then I saw She-Venom later and it was over for me. It also helped Todd drew Black Cat in her skintight suit and also her getting battle damage. Kinda felt bad she found out about MJ through that fight though.
>>149374128For me, it's the titular Species spawned from Natasha Henstridge.
>>149374365Species got me into monster girls.
>>149374322>Xenomorphs are like the most phallic thing possible and Geiger was going for that.He was, but I'm not trying to deepthroat their skull.
>>149374365>>149374384A classic.
>>149374384Got me into apocalyptic hyper-breeding fetishes.
>>149375014How could James Cameron lie to us like this. He let the queen die and his Spider-Man movie fell through...
>>149375032Oh well at least new friends were made. :D
>>149375294Reminds me of Thrax from Osmosis Jones.
>>149366981I think classic Venom is best most of the time but sometimes I do like the simplicity of no-mouth because it looks more like a mask and there is greater emphasis on the eyes emoting so it can be cuter. But the teeth can be cute too.
The shapeshifting I think has been in comics but I might be mistaken. It is good for people who like ahegao stuff and for when the artist wants to show more of the host or for horror factor but it does kinda look stupid sometimes and ruins the "costume" angle and makes the symbiote OP.
>>149370537I forgot to say but yeah fighting game girls already have strong designs. I feel like there's something about them that allows artists to put them in a lot of different places. Also they are only about 20 years younger than most Marvel characters so they have a legacy of new designs and costumes.
>>149376905Fucking shit how do I delete a post. I accidentally posted that. PLZ JANNY SAMA DON'T BAN ME.
>>149373467>>149373451>>149373063By the end in that cartoon MJ became a superhero with the Symbiote and went to superhero school I am not joking.
>>149325906i wonder in future spidey cartoons they are gonna adapt goofy venom after all the kids liked Venom in the tom hardy movie, hell maybe Mary Jane will stay as Venom in the future rather than jackpot
>>149357819i mean theres that parasyte series isnt it?
>>149359550>It's pure outrage farming to maximize money and put no effort towards comicsWe have known this since fucking Paul, Nobody likes fucking Paul and his recent transformation into diet oracle is nothing but taking adavantage of nerd rage, Marvel editorial knows that spidey fans cant fucking wait for Paul to be phased out or killed off so they buys comics to ppat creen caps on their twitter or reddit page to be mad at when Paul still sticks around
>>149376914See you in a few weeks.
>>149317030>No She-Venom muscle gf to pin you down and tongue the shit out of your prostate Life is simply not worth living
>>149376289they should do an official parody of this
>>149379158Would be cool.
>>149378301Yeah we know but I just want to get it in clear writing that the reason to be mad isn't just incel behavior regarding this particular case with MJ.
>>149378340Bro jannies must understand right? I just forgot to check the box for spoilers. That'd be really shitty to get banned that long for that kinda mistake.
>>149379564Or what I meant to say is that these reasons can't be simply written off as "incel" behavior. Not trying to like post bait.
>>149375014Wasn't there a crossover with aliens with venom consuming a facehugger and the facehugger become the new symbol for miles
>>149380521Damn, is that actually true? Miles using a facehugger as a symbol sounds deliciously ironic.
>>149379564I donโt think that most people consider the larger frustration with the state of modern Marvel to be a result of angry โincelsโ. Itโs just an easy way for lax creators to brush off legitimate criticism and deflect from their obvious ragebaiting or poorly planned storytelling.
>>149380842>easy way for lax creators to brush off legit criticism and deflect from their obvious ragebaiting or poorly planned storytellingYeah that is exactly what I meant by that. I phrased it bad. I tried to explain here
>>149380369>>149380521Yep here it is in pic rel.
Yet again I came up more ideas for my 1950's Planet of the Symbiotes AU:
One way it could also open is a scenario where we open with a TV show that looks like What's My Line? and the panel of judges are star football player Flash Thompson, Newspaper Magnate and Financier J. Jonah Jameson (a somewhat reserved version since the 50's wouldn't like a raving man running the news, kinda like an opinionated Orson Welles who is brimming with whatever real thoughts he has), socialite, debutante, and reporter Felicia Hardy (gets her scoops through burglary), and actress/model Mary Jane Watson. The first contestant is Gwen Stacy who the panel eventually guesses to be a scientist and surprised by this. The final contestant is the mystery one since they would know it's Peter Parker. They guess and have fun until the reveal where the host suddenly says his real occupation is Spider-Man instead of scientist and everyone laughs until Peter's shock wears off he gazes around and then sees everyone has a symbiote face. He wakes up from his nightmare and laughs it off but walks out to see everyone has a symbiote. Story commences.
Is that hack-y? Let me know. Just an alternate idea.
Also Eddie could be an "On the Road" beatnik and he would totally have a version of his Symbiote jacket from ASM 375. He could help MJ and Peter. Carnage would be a side story and be more like Ed Gein/Norman Bates or something. Maybe just alluded to.
>>149342651I imagine it's because he feels sexually confused for not identifying a woman at first glance.
Although all curves should give you a fucking clue.
incredibly based thread gentlemen
>>149333239Here's a colored version.
I'm going to post a piece I wouldn't normally post but I'm doing this to complain about something I might not fully understand but why do so many artists do the triangle chin thing like pic rel?
I know it sometimes is a stylistic thing like in anime art but even there it never really looked good to me. Only if it's like a very cartoonish character that is deliberately morphed into a characticature that is shaped around being triangular like a cartoon with a pyramid for a head.
It's purely because it's easy right? Man does it ruin a lot of art for me.
Symbiotes really are a cheat code for making something look cool but are the absolute worst at adding anything of value to the story.
>>149383171They're not the worst at adding to the story. It's just their a big attractor to retard editors and writers who don't think beyond what if x combined with symbiote and leave it at that with no elaboration or development. It's just an issue one-off to them that they then either keep as a one-off clickbait thing or like what they're doing with All-New where it just turns into standard superhero fare.
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>>149383171As a fan on character designs I like the way that some of the symbiotes has unique design (like my favorite Space Knight for example) but I do wish that some of them were written better.
>>149383171It is as
>>149383214 said. Itโs usually more about the flashy imagery of X, but with a symbiote design rather than any thought being given to the type of story being told, which is a shame, because there is a lot to potentially mine there.
That said, I wish there were more stories in general where the symbiote itself is an actual character, if not with a voice, at least with a distinct will. Also, thanks to the anon(s) posting all of the lovely She-Venom art. Canโt get enough of the stuff.
>>149346962DAMN IT. I was looking through more She-Venom stuff and Budd Root did get commissioned a She-VenoMJ thing. BUT it was that goddamn Joe Quinones Variant design. What a goddamn waste.
>>149383371It's weird Marvel sometimes just catches up with modern design people's ideas and inserts them in. Like that's basically just Protoss/Mass Effect alien design. I mean it is cool from a space suit/good guy angle but y'know Bendis and Klyntar were pretty bad.
>>149352495Colored version.
This one is quite bottom-heavy.
>>149383567Why do I see this as a partner to Inferno Cop? Maybe it's the gun and wicked smile.
>>149384538That and all of Trigger/Gainax shows as well as the Gaogaigar shows is stuff I need to watch. I've only really watched Eva. Hopefully the new Panty and Stocking season gets some good sentiment here. I've been lurking those threads in /a/.
Anyway pic rel is from some obscure card series.
Why would Spider-Man do this...
It never ceases to amaze me that people think a small symbol or one that has no length to the abdomen looks good. Oh well at least the rest of the drawing is good.
Weird symbol but the style looks good.
Now there's a big honking spider and the spinnerets happen to land somewhere another anatomical feature happens to be.
If the legs were more in line with the OG and maybe if the bunny suit look wasn't there I'd like it more. Or maybe the bunny suit look is fine, can't decide.
Now that we approach 300 images we shall gaze on 2 of the most important images...
I have this issue. Could use a better one. But it is quite the money shot and Anne's ass is quite tight in it and the pose is quite good.
The only thing I ever found odd with was the symbol and how it curved around the ribs and to the back instead of how it connects on the original black costume and Venom. Though that's just how Luzniak drew these characters so it isn't a unique thing.
>>149385597And now since 300 is an important number...
The image that started it all. Thank you G.I. Joe master for kinda just doing whatever you wanted with Venom.
Anne's eyelashes are cute and I always appreciated the kinda b-movie-esque acknowledgement of this whole concept by calling the coming story, The Bride of Venom.
>>149385626Better than Ed Wood's Bride of the Monster, at least.
>>149385145The hammer of justice is unisex
>>149385664Haven't seen it. But yeah that reminds me I should watch one of his shit movies before I watch Ed Wood. Maybe just Plan 9. Also if Savini or some other cool make-up/animatronic guru and his team went to Sam Raimi and said Venom can be cool, that would've probably eliminated Sandman and then we just focused on Harry and Venom. Would've made a better movie.
>>149385729Damn straight. But Batman and Terry are busy with their own symbiote-expy, Inque.
Man we reached image limit. I kinda forget when that limit is capped and uncapped. But yeah now I remember 300 sounds right. Good thing I posted the important ones for last.
>>149385848If youโre talking about he movie Ed Wood, they actually cover the filming of Bride in that a bit, including the part where they break into a prop house to steal the giant octopus for a scene. Great movie, and Bride of the Monster is one of Ed Woodโs more watchable films. It was also featured on Mystery Science Theater 3000, if that interests you.
Thanks for the image dump. I quite agree that the last two are a fitting end cap. Man, that cover is perfection!
>>149387344>Bride...MST3KCool. I'll think about it.
>DumpNo problem. I just wanted to bump this thread that OP created and I found I had time. This is like one of my specific characters that was a waifu of mine. In the sense that it was a big missed opportunity and had a lot going for it. It didn't pan out all because of Venom fatigue, Venom being shoehorned into villainy, and probably hasn't been brought back because of recent stigma regarding sex appeal in comics.
That might be changing I dunno. Just not at Marvel, beyond attempts at fleecing money from speculators and idiots. Why not just download the sexy image you idiots? Yeah I get that they do it so they have a rare item and make money but it's gonna get to the point that comics whether rare or not will not sell.
Yep the cover is quite good.
Random idea but if you know HOTD and Saeko and her personality, She-Venom kinda reminds me of her in the sort of yandere type behavior as well as the fun sexiness they use to talk to Eddie in the comic or the movie. We need more characters that are just fun and sexy in general, and that's why so many people latched onto MJ as well.
>>149388974HEY you don't talk to my wife like that!
>>149389534But I didn't know that Venom is a WOMAN?!