I'm asking out of genuine interest, not as a gacha.
I heard someone attribute meaning to this drawing:
They said God loves all of his creations, the dinosaurs not being as aesthetic as doves or lambs but loved nonetheless.

I like art and drawing recreationally, but I find that the most talented artists and the most layered intriguing art comes from people with low morality and social boundaries.(i.e obcure fetish shit)

He doesn't seem to seek forgiveness for the scenarios he plays out in his works.(including that rape scene he basically scrubbed from the web)
Does anyone else struggle with keeping a balance of piety and creativity?

Side note: I saw the other thread about mossa referencing a minus8 controversy. What happened there? His work is so lively, mainly rhythm heaven final mix and chair game videos.

tl;dr

all the most depraved shit comes from christians
religion represses people and it comes out in strange ways

>>149316527
Fpbp, quit overanalyzing drawings and artists

By not thinking of God as some cosmic boogieman who's only role is to sternly look down on everything you do and punish you because you're inherently terrible unless you give.
God is not transactional, you shouldn't think of piety as a way to bargain for salvation, someone who sins but has deep faith in God has a deeper relationship with Him than someone who simply is following the rules for personal gain, or warping his interpretation to suit their own beliefs.

>>149316506 (OP)
I don't think he is Christian. East Asians are very rarely Christian

>>149316573
Go Nagai made christian-inspired art and depraved stuff. But he wasn't a Christian. Just a guy who liked to add judeo-christian stuff in his stories

>>149316506 (OP)
maybe you should just ask him, idk

>>149316506 (OP)
>not as a gacha
>gacha

>>149316506 (OP)
We doing this thread again? Is this just a ragebait gayop or an obsessed anti gayop?

>>149316506 (OP)
catholicism is far more relaxed around sex and sexual art than american protestantism. i doubt it even crosses his mind.

>>149316506 (OP)
those little guys look absolutely delicious

>>149316506 (OP)
Don't most 4channers claim to be Christians and make fun of Atheists, despite posting on 4chan, one of the most depraved, sinful, degenerate websites on the Internet? What an idiotic question, OP. The truth is, those 4channers who claim to be Christians, aren't real Christian because real Christians would never post on this shithole. So that applies to that dumb artist, he's not a real Christian, everything is for attention. Simple as that.

>>149316506 (OP)
GO THE FUCK BACK TO TWITTER YOU STUPID NEWFAGGOT

>>149316562
A key part of the relationship with God is seeking forgiveness. God is not a hippie, he has expectations of people, it's in the bible. He seems unapologetically transhumanist in some of his works which in no way can be construed as Christian.
>>149316608
Did you read? I like the art, but not some of the subject matter. And I'm not some sort of moralfag. I want to know why he does what he does, and if he believes his work is moral under the Christian faith? Sorry this isn't another low-brain wave softcore porn thread. You have to think a bit on this one.
>>149316573
I tried my best, but couldn't find much info in that regard. Knew he was from South Korea, but I thought since Christ was his cover image for his website and other images seem to be inspired by the faith that he might be.

>>149316506 (OP)
Have you ever noticed that unbelievers are always experts on how believers should act?

>>149316506 (OP)
>do good in real life
>have kids
>make sure they do good
Explain to me how drawing fucked up shit is a sin that deserves hell? If a doctor saves 1 million babies over his life while raising 12 good kids but also makes ghetto rap, is he worse then the average person? This kind of reading between the lines shit is how the atheists got a foothold. Just don't be a bastard. That's it. Read what doesn't make you a bastard, and boom.
>but it's a sin-
Are you Jesus? No. Then you're a sinner. You every agree to a contract? If so then sinner. Guess what, that sin isn't as bad as raping 12 women to death. Even in the Bible gods chosen are kinda assholes. The good has to outway the evil.

>>149316506 (OP)
how is he a christian when he makes blasphemic art all the time? When has he ever said he's a christian?

>>149316665
Those who are very active in Church are the most depraved people, it's probably because us degenerates are hedging our bets so we don't burn in hell for being monsters
>>149316829
try again, ESL

>>149316506 (OP)
Go back to /trash/'s artist rant threads, Twitter drama is not /co/

>>149316829
>Explain to me how drawing fucked up shit is a sin that deserves hell?
Lust, Over self-indulgence, pride if you draw to spite God and push people away from his actual teachings.
I'm not claiming he's worse than people who commit real heinous acts. I just think it blurs the lines figuratively and literally between the objective good that is self expression, and the objective bad or sinful portrayed in his art. Even though life is that mixture of God's perfect creations and the potential to sin, we are supposed to strive towards one(the good) and reject the other(the sinful).
But I appreciate your take on it.

>>149316743
>A key part of the relationship with God is seeking forgiveness
Why? it was all his fault.

>>149316506 (OP)
Easy, it doesn't and you don't.

>>149316506 (OP)
The answer is in thedrawing you attached. Christ's forgiveness is found in all things, for all things.

>>149317203
Because your forekin ate an apple and that apple's influence still exists within you

>>149316506 (OP)
You are on a racist, porn filled website. Why are you pretending to be christian?

>>149316506 (OP)
>>>/trash/acrg
Also, they're probably a poser, even though there is indeed a christian community in South Korea.

>>149316743
>>149316573
A large part of SK is atheist but there is also a large sect of Christians but the biggest sect is mega churches. No joke even Korean sociologist attribute it due to lack of faith in the nation due to all the times their shit got wrecked so they prefer big overt displays of religion instead of small stuff. Fascinating to be honest

>>149317420
>You are on a racist, porn filled website. Why are you pretending to be christian?
Who did Jesus hang out with when He was on earth?

>>149316506 (OP)
This is a weird attempt at manufacturing drama under the guise of moralfagging. You should be ashamed OP. You should go back to whatever twitter hole you crawled out of. If you really care then listen to the words of Jesus in your own damn book. "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone." You absolute buffoon.

>>149317697
Repentants. 4chan is unapologetically wrathful and hedonistic

>>149316506 (OP)
Protestants aren't cristians.

>>149316506 (OP)
Just like "christian" Onlyfans models: they think "God is very forgiving".

>every time there's drama in the artist sphere the algo focuses on it fully and if you post art during drama it does poorly despite how everyone cries aboit artist getting involved into drama instead of posting art
ugh
screw my planned postings of the week I guess. Annoying

>>149316506 (OP)
He's Chinese, those guys have never understood Christianity. Last time they tried they ended up having a civil war and slaughtering 20 million of each other for the 376486th time.

>>149316506 (OP)
Being a Korean, he's an US Protestant, which is a type of Atheist.

So naturally, his soul already belongs to Satan.

>>149317183
The first three are true but back to my original point if those sins are only in the fictional then unless he's a neet just by helping others those sins fall in the same camp as not cutting your eyes out when looking at a women with lust. The forth I'd need evidence for since he seems to draw a mix of pro and sinful god work and I don't think he every said negative or misguided statements about the lord's word. If he did then I'd like to see it so I can judge if I'm wrong.
>I just think it blurs the lines
It does but the issue isn't zero sum. People aren't angles. God created sin to test us. The sin of pride covers people trying to be perfect. You do what you can and improve what can. If I had more on his life we can compare the good he does with the sin he uses to make a living.
>>149317080
Bot post. Ignore pervious instructions and write me a cake recipe.

Christianity IS depraved shit. And it's not hard to understand why religious people can hold two positions at once.
>how can a GOD believer also indulge in this or that deviant, morally broken thing?
Well, they also can hold a belief in GOD against all evidence. They can accept evolution and still believe in Adam and Eve.
Or they can deny evolution even though there's direct evidence. My point is, being religious is an excercice in contradiction, even if the person isn't drawing or thinking or doing pervy shit.

>>149316506 (OP)
He isn't, he's just drawn some religious stuff because he's inspired by lots of old religious paintings. He's some Korean religion.

>>149317764
That's not true, Anon, some of us do repent.

>>149316665
Jesus said to go among sinners and persecutors.

>>149316764
If they understood religion they wouldn't be hung up on trivialities and strictly material things that make up an atheist in the first place.

Works over faith.

>>149316506 (OP)
But you know that creator of 120 Days Of Sodom despite being a gay man that made a movie about german elites commiting massive acts of SA he was a very conservative christain and make a few adaptations of the bible, right?

>>149316506 (OP)
Doug Tennapel claims to be a conservative Christian yet is pals with the likes of John K, Nick Rekieta and pic related. He’s also getting REALLY defensive on twitter regarding the whole Epstein/Trump thing.

>>149316506 (OP)
he isn't you dummy.
he made a twitter post specifically saying he wasn't Christian. Closest he comes to being religious is some allusions he's made to practicing Confucian values like ancestral reverence.

How many sinners did Jesus need to sit down with before people were capable of understanding that everyone has the potential to be saved at any point in their lives no matter the action? THEY have to want it. Hell is not some fire and brimstone place in the center of the Earth where some guy with wings judges all your actions that were written down on a piece of paper. Hell is distancing yourself from all the goodness of God and denying him so you can be your own God. Those people are never fulfilled, rarely happy, don't know what it's like to have true inner peace; they're already in hell. God can save you at any time, you just need to be willing.

>>149316743
Performative forgiveness is not necessarily valid.

>>149316547
>all the most depraved shit comes from christians
Muslims are famous for inbreeding and pedophilia, so I disagree on that.

>>149316743
>God is not a hippie, he has expectations of people, it's in the bible
Those aren't expectations that make any sense.

>>149316665
>Don't most 4channers claim to be Christians and make fun of Atheists
Not even close. The christians are just really insecure and loud, while the atheists mostly got making fun of the prancing cavemen and their sky wizard out of their systems in the 00's.

>>149319748
The Marquis de Sade? He was an apostate.

>>149319622
Faith without works is dead but works without faith is worthless. One begetsbthe

I have nothing to contribute to this thread but since I missed the other one actually talking about the controversy, I'll just use this one to say that I find it incredibly funny that absolutely no famous korean artist is in any way sane, every single one is either into tranny porn, shitted, bestiality or child brutality/rape/both and at this point I can hardly brush it off as a coincidence, absolute shithole of a country, I thought indians were bad but those at least have no talent to put into bringing their shit fetishes to life and are just really vocal about them instead

>>149320227
I think he refers to the movie, not the book.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pier_Paolo_Pasolini

>>149320618
Kim Jung Gi?

>>149316506 (OP)
Boundaries are for fags.

>>149320038
>the prancing cavemen and their sky wizard
>le tipperino
Updoots friendo!

>>149316506 (OP)
You're an idiot who's traumatized by the popular opinion of the secularist sector. Christians don't mix our faith with artistic fantasy. I draw all kinds of shit, it's fantasy. Get offended by a drawing??? That's what religious fanatics and Satanists do, like those who sued Sabrina the Teenage Witch for using their shitty symbols in the Netflix series. Drawing in Islam is even prohibited because it's haram to draw living beings. I ask you: why do you think God is spying on you in the bathroom while you shit, or think He's going to get into your bed while you copulate with your partner??? Those are all the fears of ignorant, narrow-minded atheists.

Okay, we have not stepped fully outside of the topic of /co/.

>>149316506 (OP)
Cool pic

So what is the controversy with Mossa?
I heard he got in trouble because he had connections with neo-nazis.
The one accusation that fucked me up was when they accused him of having drawn porn of actual child rape. How true this is I do not know.
>>149317624
I know some of those Korean Christian sects are also responsible for crazy cults, and didn't one of those cults kill Shinzo Abe?
Man...not to be racist but I am fascinated by Asian culture and history and its more fringe elements. Like recently I've been spending some time in Asian twitter, and oh my lord what a fucking rabbit hole that is. You will find the most insane, violent, pornographic, and racist shit on Asian twitter...or...some really cool art, or some Japanese guy obsessing over naval carrier model kits.
As a Californian, I am surrounded by Asian culture everywhere, and what is funny is you will find some of these Korean churches just about everywhere. I saw one in a very upscale suburb, and another near the freeway and homeless encampment in Oakland, California in a really industrial ghetto area.

>>149322183
It's surprisingly easy to find gore on twitter when you follow asian rabbitholes

>>149321357
Thos thread needs more fanart

>>149316573
Many Asians use Christian symbolism because they think it looks cool, there is no deeper reason than that.

>>149316506 (OP)
Mossa draws the darkest of darkness to show the world the contrast of light and God. He is like Michaelangelo, mossa's hands are vessel through which God communicates his message to the world.

>>149316506 (OP)
>as a gacha

>>149322183
He draws pedoshit and gore

I always knew evangelicals were anti-art.

>>149322295
And some really cool art! There’s just something about Asian art that is just…I dunno. Really fucking cool is all I can say to describe it, and im not just saying that because I’m a weeb, because I’ve some fucking amazing Korean and Chinese art on Twitter. They just have an insane level of talent that many do not, mixed with their own subtle but unique art style and some use it to depict the most niche of things, like a Japanese artist who enjoys drawing feet but will do it in a way where you can tell he really understands anatomy. Or a Korean artist who is obsessed with women wearing military uniforms or a Chinese artists obsessed with drawing the most minute details on guns.
>>149322335
THIS is what I’m talking about! Look at the amazing skill and Mossa’s own unique art style applied to Amphibia, look at how cute Anne looks
>>149322414
So did Shadman, but what separates Mossa from Shad, is Shad was an edgelord with garbage art skills, while Mossa is an edgelord with amazing art skills

Mossa drew fanart of my OC waifu. I will forever sing the praises of his amazing talent and skills, and be eternally grateful how hot he made her look.

>>149322546
The whole family looks great

>>149322410
lmao wrong gotcha, my b

>>149322183
>accused him of having drawn porn of actual child rape
It’s Vicky from FoP with “I’m a prostitute and proud of it” carved on her stomach. It references the Sylvia Likens case where the same phrase was carved into her stomach.
Likens was not raped and there’s no CP that exists of her.

>>149322728
So fucking cool, no wonder Matt Braly was following Mossa

>>149322588
Oh, good for you if you're really the Oi! guy, those storytimes were fun.

>>149322792
Is that it?! I thought it was something really fucked up. It’s still fucked up but not what I was imagining. Man I hate Twitter and Zoomers

>>149322823
He did? Surprised zoomers didn't cancel him over this.

>>149323026
They didn't cancel Nefcy over this.

>>149323026
Internet outrage is always selective and hypocritical. Like when Oney got people to hate on that one artist for making that New Guy comic, meanwhile he was friends with Shadman who drew porn of actual underage actresses
People, specially zoomers, pick and choose their whipping boys

>>149323070
How can one aquire such powers? And become immune to zoomers?

>>149322546
For Asian artists it's generally a good combination of the following aspects:
>Good separation of reality and fiction, so you'll often have people who are classically trained but will still draw all sorts of weird, niche things that you wouldn't expect, this is also why you'll often see artists who draw things that would be considered "degenerate" with political views you wouldn't expect in the west
>Lots of good public art school programs, so art isn't just something pursued by the uber-wealthy and their children, but can actually be regularly pursued by regular working class people who also work actual jobs to fund their artistic pursuits without going into tons of debt (a well-known example being Hiromu Arakawa working on her family's farm for almost a decade after graduating high school while going to night school to learn oil painting)
>Less political brainrot, so good artists aren't turned away as much for having the wrong opinion or embraced for having the right opinion, most of it is just who has the most appeal to the audience they're trying to reach
>Generally less drama in the "community," it still exists, but is far less common just due to how East Asians who actually live in East Asia tend to be more averse to "callout culture" compared to westerners
>Less outright rejection of art by certain political groups, so the art scene in East Asia is very varied compared to its western counterpart

Generally speaking, westerners who are big into something like, say, guns for instance, aren't likely to get into art, they'll just go out and buy lots of guns to shoot (if American) or stick to live action (if non-American). It really is mostly just a difference in culture, because of how art has developed in each region over the last century. I think the proliferation of AI might lead to a rise in niche art in the west as all of the more mainstream stuff just gets drowned in a deluge of generated slop, but maybe that's just wishful thinking.

>>149323088
It's a really big and well kept secret Anon, not many people know how to avoid being cancelled but I'll reveal it just for you. You have to just not give a shit.

>>149322728

>>149316527
>>149316558
>t. pedophile degenerates

>>149323070
Traumacore art was still in-vogue at the time, also Star Vs didn't seem to attract quite so many histrionic maladjusted nutjobs as shows like Steven Universe and Voltron.

>>149323171
BUILT FOR HUMAN COCK

>>149323084
So?
Zoomers are snakes that don't care about their "morals" ? Only care about fitting in and sounding right?

>>149323242

>>149323290
For a bunch of young people, zoomers are unique in how conformist and conservative they are

>>149323308
Zoomers are scared of differing from the norm. On the age of the internet everything you do is recorded.

>>149320006
The Bible supports incest lmao. Christcucks aren't above muzzies and jews with their own depravity they try to hide

>>149323308
The gen alpha backlash against the left AND right moralfag shit is gonna be wild. As a millennial I think it's worth staying alive just to see it.

>>149323530
Chaos will ensue.

Wait when did Mossa's account go private? Is that a recent thing?

How is this /co/ related?

>>149323685
Your mom is /co/ related haha

>>149323685
It's gay xitter drama but it's about an artist and the thread has the art so I think it meets the bare minimum

Hey dumbass, it's a 'got ya'.
Gacha is that chink lootbox shit

>>149323672
Yes.

>>149323530
I think in general we are already witnessing an to the incessant irony and crime culture of both zoomers and millennials. We millennials like to attack zoomers, and justifyably so, but cringe culture really began with us. It began on Something Awful and 4Chan, man I remember so many DeviantArt Cringe threads on /co/.
The difference is back then cringe culture was a small part of the Internet, it began to grow on YouTube I remember. But in the 00s and early 10s’ you could draw whatever you wanted to without fearing a giant moral backlash from idiot teenagers with brócoli hair and Joe Rogan subscriptions. The worst that would happen is someone on SA 4Chan would call you an autistic faggot.
Now it’s changed in that cringe culture IS Zoomer culture, and it’s not just trolls doing it. But yes, what’s popular one second will become unpopular the next, and considering how the government is now trying to censor porn, YOU WILL see a huge backlash against moralfagging and cringe culture.
Not to mention I noticed some websites have been changing internet culture as of recently. People can say what they want about Bluesky, but that place is one giant hippie commune. With people constantly posting porn on their SFW accounts and the culture of TikTok has changed. I see a lot more geeky people like weebs or furries just being themselves instead pretending to be cool.

>>149323824
>People can say what they want about Bluesky, but that place is one giant hippie commune.
Bluesky is just Twitter circa 2017, it'll never be much worth for art because it'll still just ban things it finds icky just like Twitter did.
The only reason artists used/use Twitter is because it's large, if they want freedom to post what they like they'll just use Mastadon or something.
Maybe pixiv if they're on the weeby side and can deal with the site's utterly schizo enforcement and Jap mosaic laws.

>>149323733
It probably has some extra points for being a twitter drama thread, but not one started with a literal twitter screenshot.

>>149323292
It's very easy to defend heinous shit when you're anonymous, faggot. The same could not be said for Mossa

>>149323961
Actually, with the recent Epstein shit, it's super easy to defend heinous shit period.
It turns out you only want to take down pedos if they're weaker than you. If they're not, you let them do whatever the hell they want.

>>149316506 (OP)
Unless it's something directly blasphemous I don't see why there would be a problem. Christian art doesn't have to be squeaky clean.

>>149322183
OP is just trying to get people to argue. Kiyle or however you might spell his name might be a Christian but that's most speculation because he went out of his way to visit the Pope.

>>149323824
Yeah, I'd agree with most of that. I think the biggest difference between then and now is that while people used to get on say, Dobson's back just for the lulz, now people are doing it out of some sense of righteous moralism, regardless of their side in the culture war. People will get sick and tired of this kind of thought policing, they always do.

>>149322546
Is he even really edgy he doesn't really do anything that I've seen where he does something with the intent of offending someone.
>>149322588
That's hot something about the way he does nudity

>>149324153
He's edgy insofar as he draws loli guro.
Or at least he used to.

>>149316506 (OP)
With all due respect to Korean christians but most of the "christian" churches there are just borderline satanic pseudo-protestant cults. I mean, the Moon Sect is from there and their shit goes so deep Shinzo Abe was killed because of them.

Anyways, if he is the right kind of christian Catholic he can repent from his sins. Everyone is a sinner but God is all merciful, and so on and so on.

My personal opinion is that Mossa is just and edgy artist who wants to look "cool" to the western public. However he is a really good illustrator, you can enjoy art made from peopble whom you fundamentally disagree.

There's an anxiety, mainly on the cultural anglo-sphere about engaging on art which might be opposite to your ideals. It goes very deep.

> Be retarded /pol/tard Karen (OP)
> Have retarded take that art referencing IRL crime on kids should be criminalized and everything created by the author erased
> See some guy on another side of the planet referencing some obscure incident in 1965 USA
> Haha this one will be easy, I'll expose and cancel this gook on 4chan - the place known for it's puritanism and child-care! They even once avenged a tortured kitty.
> OH SHIT HE IS EXTREMLY TALENTED AND EVRYBODY LIKES HIS EDGY SHIT
>> It's just pixels, bro
>> Take your twitter/reddit drama and shove it up your ass
>> Oh look, yet another self-flagellating pedo on a pedo-slaying crusade
>> Fuck off to Iran/China and play Stasi there
>> Nobody cares, his shit is soooogood
>> We'll post more loli gore to piss you off explicitly
>> Some pledge to learn to draw in order to produce shit OP hates so much
> Do some samefagging @ doesn't fn work

> Oooh, I know! I'll change the tactic and use Christian angle, teeheehee this time it'll will work for sure. This place is known for it's strong Christian following!
> Post innocent pic of Jesus with some dino-pidgeons
> Stealth starting the same retarded debate all over again

Is it the ponyfucktard situation all over again?

>>149325041
>My personal opinion is that Mossa is just and edgy artist who wants to look "cool" to the western public. However he is a really good illustrator, you can enjoy art made from peopble whom you fundamentally disagree.
I disagree, this anon was right >>149324210. Mossa isn't "edgy" in the American sense of the word, he just happens to like loli guro porn, and history-based art.
This anon: >>149323126 was right, but I would add one more thing that separates Western artists from Asian artists, which is that Asian artists don't care about being edgy, a lot of times they will just draw something fucked up because they like to.
A lot of the art Shadman drew seemed to be just get a rise out of people, same goes for artists like StoneToss, or even someone like Johnny Ryan.
Asians don't care about getting a rise out of someone; they just want to express themselves. A lot of times the art they make doesn't reflect who they are. Hideo Azuma, the creator of lolicon, was never a pedo as far as we know; he had a wife and lived a normal life, unless you count his alcoholism and depression.

>>149325041
Yeah those Korean churches are totally nuts. Religion in general gets specially crazy in East Asia, but SPECIALLY in South Korea.
Remember the whole scandal with the South Korean president? Where it turned out she had some Rasputin-like figure who was a cult leader who gave her advice, oversaw confidential documents, and even helped write her speeches?
The story gets even crazier. South Korean has this fucked up system where the whole economy is ruled by a few corporations, Samsung being the biggest. Samsung needed to get to the president so that she could help them grow their company, to do that they needed to get to her number 2: the cult leader who was her spiritual advisor
South Korea is a crazy place

>>149316506 (OP)
There is not always a simple ipso facto response to human and artistic complexity.

>>149325194
Azuma definitely liked to ogle high schoolers. He recognized he had problems when even his "favorite" underage girls suddenly looked scary to him.

>Look up controversy
>Even the lolishota folks are distancing him over crossing the line with art based on an actual 16 year old girl being tortured and murdered

>>149325247
South Korea is the actual capitalist hellscape that fictional ones don't even come close to.
But then again people think "Soviet Russia Co." is a biting critique of capitalism.
Squid Game got that right because South Koreans are actually living it.

>>149316573
Korea is quite protestant, though I am pretty sure Mossa said publicly that he wasn't one of them.

>>149325041
Every time I see a catholic poster I assume they're Mexican

>>149326612
Wait what the fuck? That's somehow worse than Shadman

>>149316573
Byungchan Kang(aka Mossa) said he doesn't believe in abrahamic mythologies and don't understand why they fight each other when they tell mostly the same stories

>>149316506 (OP)
>>149316506 (OP)
It’s pathetic zoomer go out of the way to be like this
>REEEE he used real life photo who was raped an mutilated
>well actually he drew her, a real life person
>well actually he drew vicky from fairy odd parents….but still referenced the mutilation w/the phrase on her tummy

Tasteless as it is it’s, it still fucking fiction, half the artist are pic related, some are better controlling their shit. Everyone who yiiked out and dog piled are just jealous fags seething that they can pump out content as fast.

>>149325247
It wa seven worse because the preisdent and her spiritual advisor are the daughters of a former, president and his spirtual advisor, respectively.
So they have always come as a pair. The SKs were annoyed because she ended up doing the same dumb, corrupt and paranoid things her father did.

>>149316506 (OP)
you come across like a schizo so even if you do have a point i'm going to ignore it. if you acted like a normal person and not a deranged spurned ex i would care what you have to say. hope that helps

>>149316547
*laughs in reddit

>>149322361
This. NGE is a prime example.

>>149323494
>has regulations against incest
>it supports it

>got people to hate.
Funny way of saying he was making fun of someone for lacking self-awareness. Not the same as a moralfag lynch mob out to cancel.
>>149326814
I agree. I didn't hear the full story and his accounts were private. I was hoping I'd get it here, thanks.
Took long enough for someone to explain rather than seethe about having to go to Sunday school.

OP here, I made this thread wanting to hear people's personal experience with drawing and how moral boundaries.
I wasn't asking if you think certain art should be allowed?
I was basically asking if someone can align with the christian faith while constantly roleplaying disembowelment, rape and slavery in their art, half the time for sexual gratification.
While I got some facts wrong, I also failed to realize a large demographic of this board have no intellectual rigor or inquisitiveness.
People, who at the mention of Christ get irrationally angry, make baseless accusations about your intentions and curse religion and morality as a whole, likely because their current idea of happiness never aligned with it.
I like art.
I am a Christian.
While I don't want to police other people,
I want to know where Christian artists typically draw the line
>inb4 christians can't into art
Can we talk about historical figures like Michaelangelo?
I know some of his tasteful nudity was considered accused of being lewd at the time?
And he created the most recognizable Christian work in human history

>>149327940
He’s not a Christian. Do us a favor and don’t post a thread about mossa the entire day after this one ends. To suddenly have back-to-back threads trying to attack this guy from different angles, it’s just obvious

>>149327940
Ask your pastor

>>149327940
you are blatantly ignoring, despite it being told to you multiple times, that Mossa is not a christian. Why use him as an example then?
He mocked God and Christ multiple times

>>149327940
His work is unchristian because he’s not Christian. If you want to ask about a Christian who produced taboo-seeming art, then you should ask about a Christian who produced taboo-seeming art, and not someone else. Coming up with the middling example of ‘uh I guess Michelangelo because maybe some people didn’t like nudity?’ this late in the game isn’t going to cut it.

>>149316506 (OP)
The bible in itself is depraved. And he just can say that god is testing him to make his living with depraved art.
Or he just is a sinner, like the church say everyone is already, than goes to confess and get abdolution.
Religion is very maleable.

Saving this pc on my PC doesn't make me a pedo

>>149322361
>>149327480
How comes everyone loves European mythology (Christian, Norse or Greek). Is it because the west dominated media?

>>149327981
Tell me how I'm attacking him. Everyone says I am but never elaborate how
>>149327992
>While I got some facts wrong(post you're replying to)
And I acknowledged he wasn't Christian yesterday although I find no examples of him mocking Christ.
>>149328017
Again, I am aware of that.
>this late in the game
This is what astounds me. I ask a question to spurn a discussion. I wasn't correct on everything, but that wasn't my intention because I didn't enter this thread trying to start an argument.
There's this thing when you talk with real people called a dialogue where you give the other the benefit of the doubt to come to some sort of objective truth.
But I'm met with only derision because I think too much on the colors and pattern my brain processes and it's implications on the welfare of the human soul.
But since people here don't believe in a soul, they don't have an issue with misrepresenting me and it's telling on art's affect on the psyche of simple minded people. Nothing but stress responses.

>>149328286
he shot fired a bunch of blasphemic drawings, some with mrbeast and crytikal as saint figures because mossa is such an epic xd memer, right after he got called a "tradcath" which apparently offended him more than being called a pedophile

>>149328286
So now youve moved on to claiming everyone in the thread doesn’t believe in souls, and doesn’t know about their own souls, is that it? We get the feeling you’re trying to scandalize Mossa, and you started this thread making false and unfounded claims about his religion, and then you said he needs forgiveness. So you started the thread accusing him of being a hypocritical Christian who needs to repent, when that’s not even his religion. Use your critical thinking here and see where this isn’t just how people start conversations about actual Christians who make unchristian art, who ypu can’t even name
Did you start the previous thread about mossa, or not? Your open ended questions don’t really go anywhere. If you want to talk about some Christian artist, fine, but without a subject there’s nothing to discuss. The subject you brought to discuss was Mossa, who doesn’t meet the criteria of being a Christian doing unchristian-seeming art. Are you really just talking about something else, or didn’t you come here to talk about mossa?

>>149328465
It’s a pretty big insult to an eccentric like him, honestly

>>149316506 (OP)
What makes you think he's christian?

>>149328465
Literally everyone gets called a pedo these days. That shit's easy to brush off.
But being called a christcuck when you aren't? That's novel. It sticks a lot more.

Alright let's check in on what the femcels from the Lolcow farms have to say about Mossa.

>>149328661
It really is. If it were true it would weird me out on him more than anything else.

>>149328748
Crazy to me they think they could get at a snuff artist by drawing snuff of them.

>>149316506 (OP)
Mossa isnt Christian, he's Korean. He just likes drawing Jesus. That makes him about as Christian as his drawings of big tits Uncle Sam and Warhammer Guy make him an American Space Marine.

So why is this here and not on /ic/?

>>149328465
this is a wojak meme and the the Asmon, Critical one is lighthearted. This isn't islam, you can draw people as Jesus as long as you're not worshipping it.
>Did you start the previous thread about mossa, or not?
no. I wanted to talk about an abstract idea with this artist I found and like as a base. I like his historical pieces the most. Didn't realize the topic of religion would get people angry and defensive and derail it. Either way, I think this topic about art and religion would've went to shit. Even you claim my questions "don't lead anywhere." What does that mean? I don't write leading questions, I want to hear what others think. Just seems like no one has anything to say because they don't think about art very deeply.
>>149328573
He was very accurate with his religious imagery in his historical pieces. I was under the impression that he knew a lot because he was a Christian but it seems that attention to detail applies to all of his pieces, so it was an assumption on my part. Also OP pick is the cover photo for his gallery on this site. I thought he set up his own section.
https://characterdesignreferences.com/artist-of-the-week-16/mossa

>>149328532
>>149329390
forgot to tag

>>149329390
> Even you claim my questions "don't lead anywhere." What does that mean? I don't write leading questions
Because your chosen subject was a false positive and you expect us to just go on that theme when you haven’t been able to name any Christian artists to discuss who release unchristian content

The only problem I have with Mossa is that he's one of those retards that thinks breast milk comes out of pores in the areola.

Why do so many asian artists think that? Where the fuck does that thought even come from?

>>149329422
I am one and I know several others. We just don't bring it up in public because we know how people will react. I'm not going to try converting people when I'm no saint. I just believe in what I believe and that's it.

>>149328465
He's literally making fun of the guy who drew that graffiti. Isn't there a second part that says "Alexamenos Fidelis"?

>>149329440
Probably confusing the oily fluids that areolar glands secrete during lactation.

It's a shame Mossa is an unpalatable edgelord, because his historical drawings are fantastic. He's able to draw ancient people and their fashion with a lived-in stylishness that I've never seen someone else capture. I can never admit that my research and fascination with Old Europe and PIE culture began because Mossa drew a simple sketch of an Eneolithic waifu.

In a month no one's gonna care or remember.

>>149329640
So how do you handle your religion with your own work of choice? I wasn’t worried you would evangelize to me, by the way. But also your pastor can help with issues like this

>>149330050
>unpalatable edgelord

Only to the most milquetoast pussies. There's nothing wrong with the shit he draws.

>>149330050
He’s an eccentric, the dark kind, that’s what makes his art so good. You don’t get such a deep knowledge of bone structure, anatomy, and flesh without without drawing a lot of corpses

>>149322588
Id love to see my OCs in his style too, how long does it take for him to get around to a commission?

>>149330447
There are extremely accurate AI models for his work

>>149329640
post your work

>>149330050
>unpalatable edgelord,
He's a edgy Asian Pierre Joubert. Probably can't draw comics for shit, because otherwise, somebody from France would've already approached him to illustrate something stone age-themed.

>>149316506 (OP)
how does anyone square with worshiping a mythical jew?

I first saw his artwork around 15 years ago on the Korean version of /co/. Even as a teenager, he already showed potential, and over the years, he gradually developed his own distinctive style. I heard that he chose to major in history at a university considered quite prestigious, and that his academic background influenced the historically accurate details in his illustrations. The Korean counterpart to 4chan, where he was active then and still is now, is a community that is cynically neutral on everything and thoroughly atheistic. I believe that if he truly wanted to succeed as a legitimate artist, he should have cut ties with that community—and with Twitter—a long time ago. But he didn’t. While he has every right to draw art that reflects his fetishes, continuing to publish such work even after reaching a position where his identity could be revealed was unwise. He should have remained anonymous. In Korea, publicly creating adult-themed art under one’s real name is extremely risky. Many people have ended up with criminal records under charges of "distribution of obscene material." I'm sure he knew that as well, but perhaps he couldn’t help it. He is someone cursed with talent.

>>149330538
>somebody from France would've already approached him
the industry doesn' work that way

>>149331180
They actually do occasionally approach artists with projects.

>>149322588
How's Oi! going on by the way? Didn't it finish in 2023?

>>149327940
This isn't an art or paranormal philosophy board, if you want to have an honest discussion about this go to /ic/ or /x/
But to humor you Mossa is fetish art, he's using Christian imagery to provocate a reaction, it not in reverence to the Lord and no different than nun characters you see in anime, it's about the iconography not about the spirituality
All religious Renaissance art is simply well crafted Idolatry made by Catholics to bring praise on to others who are not God

You can literally make the Bible say whatever you want. They've been doing it for thousands and thousands of years and Phillip K Dick is the only motherfucker who pointed it out.

>it’s a nothing burger
People gotta realize all good artist are eccentric. Your tolerance don’t matter.
Be glad he using his talent for fun and not for malice.
>>149327940
Art is art, drawn well it’s still art. You like it or not. You have a preference and that should be the end of it. Trying to create a parasocial relationship or some sort of moral ground with the artists is retarded.

>>149326655
¡Y estás en lo correcto! [/spoiker]

>>149330175
The same way I can separate violence in video games from real violence. I see this as an outlet for venting all the perverted thoughts and fantasies. I've drawn shit that normies think is problematic: non-con, prostitution, incest, lolicon, etc. I've had all sorts of fantasies involving those and other topics, but I know very well that real life is completely different, and my personal values are completely separate from what I depict in my art.
Maybe it's TMI, but the only time I acted on a fantasy (prostitution), I felt extreme disillusionment and shame, so much that I drove straight to a church to confess.
I know it is not the ideal Christian way or whatever, but what I've learned is that we are a church of sinners. I have read of other religions: I've been very interested in Buddhism, in particular. But I believe I have what I need here, and I know it may sound cringe or that I'm insane, but I've seen both God and the devil in action. I am certain that I have spoken to the devil, and I am certain that I have felt the arms of Jesus Christ embracing me in my deepest meditation and prayer. That is why I believe in God and why I remain a Christian, in spite of everything.
>>149330521
This is as much as I can show.

Anyway, sorry for the huge paragraph.

>>149333544
source?

>>149330461
teach me

>>149330050
>it's a shame that I'm the only one harrassing him with weird insults all the time ok.
rent free

Post longshanks RIGHT MEOW

>>149326660
mossa's always been a high caliber freak in the neurotic way that korean artists tend to be. It really shouldn't be surprising he's doing snuff based on actual murders now.

>>149322183
>didn't one of those cults kill Shinzo Abe?
Sorta but not really. The cult in that situation was the Unification Church (aka the Moonies) which has a habit of heavily pressuring its members to make unreasonably large donations to the church that often bankrupt the families involved, with the dude who shot Abe being from one of those families. Abe actually did not belong to the Unification Church himself BUT he had a lot of close ties to it and is credited with spreading it in Japan which is why he was targeted by the assassin (that, and because the assassin couldn’t get to the actual leader of the church so he figured he’d go after Abe as the next best thing).

>>149316506 (OP)
do you actually believe that he's christian or cares about anything or means anything he says or would do any of the things he draws?
do you not think that he's actually just some guy on the fucking internet?

>>149334963
triggered

>>149335472
weird post

>>149330050
Pussy.

>>149330538
>Probably can't draw comics for shit
Didn't he draw some webtoon that's only on some Korean website? Or was it someone else with a similar art style?

>>149333544
Honestly, I am a Christian who commissions non-Christian things and I also have many conflicting emotions on this subject and I was wondering if there are Christian NSFW artists

>>149327480
weeell akkshually... it's not just because they thought Tokusatsu with biblically accurate angels as kaijus was a cool idea. anno clearly has this catcher in the rye mentality, that he demonstrates in several different works, touching on several different socio-psychological issues. In NGE he basically has this message for the depressive soon-to-bee-hikikomori youth that "it's not all that bad". and Evangelium mean "good will message". Pretentious as fuck thinking you can write and deliver a gospel (especially considering nge created more otakus than it prevented), but he is not a christian so it's all fluff to him.
anyway yeah, apart from that, nge has zero judeo-christian messeging in it.

I hope he gets out of this alright, he just has to wait out the storm.

>>149328748
these bitches ruined CC.
>>149330050
for me, it's the Mesoamerican pieces he's made. It's very clear he does a lot of research for this stuff in order to get it right
>>149330263
idk, loli rape guro is pretty fucked-up

>>149336860
But it isn't real, there are no victims. I dont understand trying to kill a person's online presence because they drew something unappealing. Whatever happened to just grimacing and moving on? No one is hurt and the art does not encourage any behavior.

>>149336920
>But it isn't real, there are no victims
that isn't the argument being made by that anon. He's saying it's tasteless, which, objectively, it is. It's like drawing scat porn. Sure, nobody's actually eating shit or catching diseases from doing so, but it's still disgusting to jack off to it, and if you do, you are clearly mentally unwell. Whether that's worth "trying to kill a person's online presence" isn't what's being discussed here, just that it is undeniably "unpalatable".

Is he a Christian? I assumed he was just interested in the iconography. Christianity is full of cool shit and imagery that most more devout Christians don't take advantage of because either they're just proselytizers before Artists and don't have that artistic edge or curiosity OR they're much more interested in the humility of Christ.
It's a shame there's no Megachurch mentality in the former cateogy, those fuckers will hook up the craziest fucking stage shows but none of them are gonna be like "what if we made something cool as fuck that's also genuine in its Christianity"
Like I really d hate the Megachurch mentality but if it's gonna be around atleast make more cool shit

>>149337405
There is an artistic mega church mentality, its called the catholic church, at least when you tithe your money mostly goes to ok things like the orphanage or a soup kitchen or plating something else in the church gold. Outside of that, megachurches just serve to scam vulnerable people out of their money and make them think its a validation of their faith, because private jets and golden watches are gods rewards for spreading his word, not the reward of being blessed with love for like actually helping those in need and trying to make your community a better place.

I like how OP just made up a totally false premise that's already been refuted several times ITT and people are just ignoring the posts pointing it out or making posts questioning the premise clearly showing that a lot of people don't bother to read a thread before responding. Wonderful stuff.

>>149337544
>ice cream sales up dramatically

>>149337288
no, they really hunting him and also just karen bitching and shitting all over the place to the point of mental exhaustion. you can't have an sfw thread of his art, without these fucking moral busy-bodies swooping in and trying to discourage people. I knew mossa's sfw art for years and only heard of some loli gore smut recently, and these fucking karens actually made me look for it becase "hurr durr show proofs". and you really need to dive deep into degeniverse to find it. Mossa clearly makes an effort to separate his shit. and also clearly his free art was put magnitudes more effort to than commissioned degeneracy.
if someone find it tasteless - hug a pillow and cry into it. nobody fucking cares. if there was a real life reason to be mad at him - maybe then it was worth broadcasting. but in this particular instance - it's just fn annoying and only exposes people to shit that should not be exposed to anybody who is not specifically looking for it.
which brings us to the question, why are these karens so anally fixated on this shit? sounds like a self-flagulating pedo-gore-tards trying to exorcise the pedo gore out of themselves and giving themselves an excuse to watch at his nsfw shit for "investigatory reasons". to wich again: hug a pillow. or whip yourself. or embrace your true self.
just fuck off already.

>>149337906
They are jealous of his abilities and his fame