How can they make the Kino if we don't eat the sloppa?!

i want them to stop making anything and just go out of business

Big studios aren't the only ones who can make kino, if big studios can't make kino they should just die and make way for smaller studios who can.

>>149317896
>I want unemployment to go up because I'm allergic to beans

>>149317782 (OP)
HEY, PIXAR! LEAVE THEM QUEERS ALONE!

>>149318286
how many times are they going to try something like this only to learn time and time again that not enough gay people watch stuff like this for a wholly-gay protag to be anything less than a detriment

>>149318286
>after
no, it was before. the article in the hollywood reporter breaking down all the drama was very clear about that. the behind-the-scenes stuff doesn't make sense at all unless the suits made changes before test screening.
>>149319164
they didn't try it at all.

All of Hollywood needs to go bankrupt.

All of Hollywood needs to burn to the ground, actually, but I'll settle for them going bankrupt.

>>149319521
They removed the overt stuff, but they didn't remove the vibes. It's like repainting an old chainsmoker's house and then expecting it to stop smelling like an ashtray.
Anyone could feel what this movie was without having to see it. And that probably scares Disney a lot more now, knowing that without the crutch of social justice, they have nothing. No path forward.
Remember, when pro-woke people and anti-woke people use that term, "woke", they're talking about two very different things. I know someone who is one of those anti-woke people, and he loves star trek. He loves the X-Men. He's left-leaning. Because to him, as well as to the other people in the anti-woke camp, the term was never about muh politics, it was about the systematic manufacturing of pseudo-sociopolitical shit to cash in on the socially-minded millennials and zoomers, as well as to cover for the fact that their best talent left years ago with no one to replace them.
They thought they could take the propaganda out and it wouldn't be trash. They were wrong. Because the intent remains, as does the feeling of superficiality that anyone with a working brain can pick up on in half a second.

>Another Elio thread.
Stop, the movie flopped because of faggot shit, move on.

>>149319550
This, the last time it happened we got some of the best movies of all time.

How did Pixar used to make original stories? Why can't they do that anymore?

There's nothing original about Elio.
Especially not when Lilo and Stitch was in theaters at the same time.

>>149320787
Most of Pixar's original concept films tend to be downstream of wanting to manage some kinda technical achievement and then working around any limitations, or being told to do something by someone else. Toy Story for example basically exists to show off that they could make CGI that good, but it's about toys with human scenes being more limited because they kept coming out plasticy so making it about toys let them hide that failing by making it look mostly intentional like it was the goal all along.

Monsters Inc IIRC was largely hair physics and complex model motions, Wall-E was IIRC at least in part due to textures and lightning refinements they wanted to show off, Cars I think was similar, Incredibles was in part to show off that they could do more natural looking human skin textures now with variable undertones? I'd need to check.

Anyway the point is that Pixar was never really all that creative ex nihilo, they usually had to have some kind of goal they wanted to show off and technical limitations to work around to shape and spur their creative processes.

stop complaining about us complaining about them if you won't make them good

>>149320920
Yeah, Incredibles was "we've reach the point where we can make stylized humans look good also check out this water animation" film. Pixar has always been a development studio masquerading as a film production company, the Kel-Tec of animation, which is kinda why their latest features have felt somewhat flat; their aren't really any major advancements in CGI to capitalize on so their writing issues have become more prominent.

>>149317782 (OP)
A reminder that Pixar had a Disney park shill who usually blabbers about the latest popcorn buckets at the parks say this but ran it on their social media like it was their own.

bump

>>149320674
>the movie flopped because they got rid of the faggot shit
FTFY

But I enjoy the sloppa

Why not make something original and good?

>>149322544
the faggot shit was in the movie

>>149322622
Not according to >>149318286

>>149320920
The reason they succeeded is not the technology, but the storytelling. A good story that resonates and goes bong in the chest is going to succeed whether it looks technologically phenomenal or it's stick figures on 8s.

They forgot how to tell good stories.

>>149317782 (OP)
Looked like garbage

>>149317928
Hey, as long as it forces those still employed to improve their shitty artstyle.

>>149318286
I got your joke, anon. We're surrounded by musical philistines. Clearly we don't need no education.

Who this movie appeals too? I could pirate it right now and don't even this much I want. just looks boring and generic and there is nothing in there screaming IT NEEDS TO BE SEEN.

Visually, storywise, tone and characters, you could put all the last animated movies they did together and you would not be able to tell a difference. This is not that original.

And again, it comes the question, tho whom this appeal? what is the public audience? because is not kids, I don't think I would be excited to see this movie as a kid, maybe I would like it watching at some point but it would be far from being my favorite.

They make these weird movies that appeal to one but the creator, that on itself is fine, but it becomes really hard to sell when the creator often is this terrible person with no charisma pretending to be a good person hiding behind shitty ideologies that don't affect him.

I wish this movie was actually made by a pedo like some anons pretend because this little brown faggot is extremely gay, pedos do some kino shit when they are allowed, just look at japan. this guy is just fucking boring and can only make boring ass art, blaming your audience for thinking you are boring is not it.

>>149317782 (OP)
>>149323138
>>149320824

I went to see a 3D showing this afternoon;
was it anything particularly special or deeply heartwarming or emotionally moving or something like that?
Nope.
But it was technically reasonably proficient in everything except being a script suitable for adults (e.g. all family/grandparents/parents included) because it had too many holes even as I was watching it which means, despite some nice set pieces, it didn't hold my imagination enough to set those aside (as say Ratatouille did with say the dexterity of rats as sous chefs or Toy Story with the sentience of toys, etc.).
I wouldn't have wanted to have paid $25+ for the 3D showing which is why I went on a Tuesday, but I'm sure it will do reasonably well on Disney+ just has nothing for the kiddies to really fixate on the way LET IT SNOW and crap like that does.

>>149323102
>storytelling
Exactly.
Although I'm not sure they have 'forgotten' but that Disney put everything through a type of sausage making that is lowest common denominator.

>makes the made for TV movie version of Lilo & Stitch in the most generic cgi style slop possible.
>Hurr durr! Don't ask for originality if you won't go see it.
Fuck off lol

>>149317782 (OP)
>Stop complaining about movies you won't see!
I love how they never talk about how they can't get the people who they were trying to get to see this movie being uninterested.

>>149323102
I know reading comprehension is hard, but Anon is clearly pointing out that their storytelling was always kind of all over the place and largely had quality from having to work hard to work around their technology and thus think seriously about it vs shitting out whatever because they aren't really not have they ever been writers. Any monkey can, with enough effort and thought, write an okay script given enough time and focus, diligence can make up for lack of skill, but if you don't have a reason to spend that time and effort on it and you lack skill then you get slop.

With that said, it's not surprising with Pixar though because most of their movies have always been dogshit outside of like, 4 of them, people just got bedazzled by the technical accomplishments and later nostalgia and "it's Disney therefore it's good" faggotry for decades.

>>149322574
MY FUARKING HERO

This is them being original:
Nigger Homo Little Boy

>>149323495
>tranime
go back

>>149317782 (OP)
Didn't Inside Out and Coco have massive takes?
Is there actually someone at Pixar complaining no-one went to see one of their throw-at-the-wall-and-see-what-sticks ideas?
In a couple more years they'll have another big winner, it might even be a trans black girl protagonist whose catchphrase is "I stand with Israel!" because people really do pay to see films with sloppy writing.

I can't remember, didn't the Lion King 3D actually have the biggest income of any (animated?) film ever even after adjusting for inflation?
Granted, not Pixar, but still Disney.

>>149323495
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. The new Lilo & Stitch made a billion dollars and cost nothing?

>>149320674
And yet, you stopped by to make another one of these stupid faggot posts because you got nothing better to do.

>>149323199
More like you two are old as fuck

>>149317782 (OP)
>millennial writer using a movie to work through their personal trauma
>original story

>>149324576
Yeah

>>149323495
>CHADnime
Stay, King.

>>149318286
It's really fascinating how you can tell a cartoon or animated movie was made with faggotry in mind just by sheer artstyle alone.

The minute I saw Elio I was like "yup that's gay, hard skip". I was initially surprised when the movie released and there wasn't seemingly any reports of gayness... then these reports coming out that he was conceptualized as gay made me go "yup still got it, you can just tell".

>>149317782 (OP)
When The Good Donosaur flopped they didn't blame audiences, they just took the L and moved on to their next projects.