God damn this movie was good

>>149323086 (OP)
a lot better than I thought it would be honestly. I saw Man of Steel yesterday just so I could compare and it was extremely jarring watching Superman spend the entire Kaiju fight saving people. Mr. Terrific was pretty cool too.

>>149323086 (OP)
Outdated y would the big fight of a Superman movie be a normal ginger

Making Jor-El and Lara straight up evil was an interesting choice but I don't hate it.
I thought the twist would be that Luthor faked the message, but thematically I understand why they went that way.
Also who else was there on the Hall of Justice banner? I only noticed wildcat

>>149323086 (OP)
I'm seeing it Sunday. I hope its a fun time. Next movie I want is Worlds Finest with Batman/Superman against Joker/Lex

>>149323162
I'm pretty sure Nicholas Hoult said he wants to see his Lex team up with The Joker

>>149323154
>Making Jor-El and Lara straight up evil was an interesting choice
Okay now I'm worried. I know Kryptonians were assholes but wasn't Jor-El the exception?

>>149323154
I actually liked it desu. The Kents for all intents and purposes are his real parents anyway over two people he's never even met. I was expecting that to be the twist too but I'm glad they didn't, felt like it would've been cheap.

>>149323185
No clue. There's some ambiguity over whether Luthor corrupted it I assume but the movie leans pretty heavily on Jor-El actually being evil. It's not clear if it's all Kryptonians or just him. Supergirl shows up and isn't evil, just kind of a wreck.

Based on what I've heard of the plot for all the talk of Silver Age and Morrison influences it sounds like a Byrne story with Krypto and the Fortress added in.

>>149323224
Everything goes back to Byrne to the chagrin of all pre-Crisis fags

>>149323224
Pretty much yeah. Very heavy emphasis on Superman being a human with powers vs an alien, and the Kents being his "real" parents.

Is Kelex or The Zoo in The Fortress of Solitude?

Me and my squad are going next week...can't fucking wait...

>>149323257
not that I saw. Not that much of the Fortress is shown honestly that wasn't in the trailer.

Any chance they'll introduce Mercy Graves later or are we stuck with Eve?

>>149323257
They didn't show it but an intergalactic zoo was mentioned, it sounded more like something Superman just knew about rather than something he worked with closely
>>149323274
I'm seeing it with my gays this weekend then my bros next weekend

Where's the full plot rundown?

>>149323281
Eve betrays Luthor
Considering how much Gunn loved All Star I'd say Nasthalthia has a real shot
>Eyebrow, Lexie. Eyebrow.

>>149323282
Your gays?

>>149323289
leaks have been out for a while and they're accurate

>>149323180
thank god battinson isn’t in this universe because barry keoghan’s joker fucking sucks. nicholas hoult’s lex teaming up with a classic silver age style joker would be a treat.

>>149323289
Luthor is manipulating political tensions in the vague middle east/Eastern Europe so that he has an excuse to turn the government on Superman. He uses information he steals from the Fortress of Solitude to turn the public on Superman too. Luthor is a mad scientist with a clone of Superman and a cyborg bodyguard at his side and an inter dimensional prison he keeps his enemies in. He locks Superman in there, but with the help of fellow prisoner Metamorpho and Krypto, Superman escapes. The pocket dimension begins collapsing, and Superman has to work with the "Justice Gang" to seal the dimension, end the war, and put Luthor behind bars.

>>149323294
But Mercy is great, I want her. Would be a great contrast to Eve

>>149323303
I have a queer lib friend group that's largely separate from my straight friend group

>first Superman movie actually starring a Jewish Superman
>literally completely blatantly anti-Israel to the point where you would have to be a coping retard to read the entire Boravia/Jarhanpur section any differently
Unexpected but welcome
Too bad they made Superman kind of a dumbass, I liked the movie otherwise. Hope he gets some of his wisdom as the universe progresses

>>149323311
I know Bill Skarsgard wants to play Joker
If I'm Gunn I'd just cast Pattinson as a "new" Batman in this universe and tell Matt Reeves to shove it

>>149323330
He's only 30 in this movie and in the modern era that's pretty young, he's definitely not the "Dad who's seen it all" from All Star

>>149323180
>>149323311
>>149323339
Let's keep The Batman away from this and its own thing. Not fantastical enough for this canon. But I would like to see a less edgy yet still threatening Joker team up with Lex given the golden contrast in personalities

Bros, I have a question. Why isn't Mr. Terrific as popular as other heroes? I genuinely liked him but I had no idea he even existed before this movie. He makes a better cyborg than the actual cyborg.

>>149323339
So is Bill Skarsgard just going to be typecast as evil clowns now?

>>149323375
He's often overshadowed by Batman as the "smart guy without powers" on the team. He'll probably get a boost after this movie though. But yeah he fits on the JL way better than Cyborg.

>>149323375
He's mostly "guy in the chair". Being 3rd smartest man on the planet just makes him a coordinator

so before the /col/tards come in.
>Was there gays
>was there girl boss moments
>was there colored people everywhere
>Was there a trans flag in the background or some color that could be seen as trans representation
>Was there any kind of political nonsense that /col/ will try to claim this movie has?

>>149323224
It’s Byrne with mild Silver Age elements which muddles the ‘immigrant’ angle Gunn is supposedly going for

>>149323411
>gays
no
>girl boss moments
not sure what you mean by this. I'd say no? But Lois does have a lot to do in the movie, but it's done with her using her investigative powers and getting Mr. Terrific to help out than like, "A GIRL CAN DO THIS TOO SILLY BOYS" like Captain Marvel or something.
>colored people
Mr. Terrific has a pretty significant role, though I don't think it came at the expense of Superman.
>trans flag
nope
>political nonsense
Not really? I mean there's a generic geopolitical situation of a larger country involving a smaller one that Superman wants to stop, which you could take to be Israel/Palestine or Russia/Ukraine if you wanted to but desu I think it's just supposed to be saying that one country invading a smaller one and killing everyone in it is a bad thing and it doesn't go all that much more into detail than that.

Superman villains I'd like to see in this universe
>Manchester Black
>Livewire
>Parasite
>Metallo
>Mister Mxyzptlk
>Atomic Skull
>Bizarro

>https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_2025/reviews?type=user
Audience reviews just dropped
Its a fucking hit

>>149323432
we're way too overdue for Braniac being in a movie.

>>149323382
I hope so because it would be hilarious to see how many he can play

>>149323429
>which you could take to be Israel/Palestine or Russia/Ukraine if you wanted to
I've seen people saying it's Anti-Israel but given that the movie started shooting in December 2023 and the script was likely finalized before the genocide in Gaza even started I doubt it was intentional. Especially since CIA hatchetman Tom King consulted on the script.

>>149323432
The ending definitely sets up Ultraman as Bizarro Superman, he gets sucked into a parallel dimension with strange cubes and mutant freaks

>>149323510
tbf...the stuff that Isreal is doing is not new, we just now have celphones.

>>149323086 (OP)
I'm working through the weekend so I won't get to see it until Monday or Tuesday. disappointing, but I'd rather wait than deal with a packed theater on day 1 regardless.

You know I don't want to get ahead of ourselves with sequel talks BUT you could probably do a Superman 2 based off of "Whats So Funny About Truth Justice And The America Way?" but The Elite is comprised of Superman villains Manchester Black convinced to join up with him. Like the big fuck you is "Hey look, Superman, I convinced half your rogues to turn over a new leaf" when in reality they're all still bullies. Livewire, Parasite, Atomic Skull, and Metallo would all work well with Manchester

>>149323523
I know, I just don't think Hollywood bigwigs were even pretending to give a shit before public opinion shifted over Israel.

>>149323339
>If I'm Gunn I'd just cast Pattinson as a "new" Batman in this universe and tell Matt Reeves to shove it
and if I was Pattinson I'd tell Gunn to go fuck himself

>>149323547
My dad never took me to movies opening night for this reason lol

So can someone explain The Justice Gang to me? I know they're funded by Maxwell Lord. Are they just a proto-Justice League that isn't quite getting off the ground? Is the implication that Superman will form the Justice League later and privatize the organization?

>>149323551
I just don't think we need another movie explaining to audiences why Superman is cool, it's time to just show not tell. Would have worked for the first movie though

>>149323563
Pattinson is openly very frustrated that he can't play a young Batman anymore

>>149323577
I think it's the second one yeah
I think the team will end up being
>Superman
>Batman
>Wonder Woman
>Hal Jordan
>Flash
>Hawkgirl
>Mister Terrific
>Metamorpho

>>149323581
I wouldn't say its "explaining Superman is cool". I see it more as the fallout of his legacy, someone taking all the wrong lessons from his work and twisting his methods

>>149323577
Its the Ultimen from the cartoons, and i think it going to end up being The Terrifics instead of a league.

>>149323605
So drop Guy, Hawkgirl, then add Plas and Phantom Girl? Okay

I've seen people saying the contrast in tones between Pattinson Batman and Corenswet Superman would be great but I can't see Pattinson wanting to be locked into that many movies so it's never happening, not to mention Reeves.

>>149323630
People are just dumb and see the most relevant/new thing and think it has to connect. Similar to how first exposure to a character to them means "only this actor can pull the character off" like with Wolverine. The Batman can be its own thing. I want to see a new Batman for this DCU canon, one with more fantastical tools

>>149323615
I think Guy and Hankgirl are replacing them...mostly because PG would need the Legion and Plas is probably gonna get a show or something.

>>149323154
I don't think it's intended to be straight up evil, more misguided that leads to evil. Sorta like what Bendis tried to do with Jor-El's opinion on humanity during his era. But at the same time is Bendis really what you want to be basing your adaption on?

>>149323330
>literally completely blatantly anti-Israel to the point where you would have to be a coping retard to read the entire Boravia/Jarhanpur section any differently
LMAO
https://archive.is/TzvDX

>>149323577
what this anon said
>>149323605
i had a feeling near the end of the movie they were setting those 4 up to be "The Terrifics".

which is weird because I though a Plastic Man movie was leaked as being in the talks, and he's usually a part of that team. maybe they'll have 5 members instead of 4 to make it more distinctive compared to the fantastic four, who knows?

>>149323696
>Jordan Hoffman is an American freelance film critic and former actor, director, and producer. He is best known for his work with New York Daily News, The Guardian, Film.com, Vanity Fair, ScreenCrush, and The Times of Israel.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

>>149323708
>maybe they'll have 5 members instead of 4 to make it more distinctive
Or they won't have Plastic Man at all

>>149323086 (OP)
Astonishing how a movie that wants to cricle jerk itself so hard about being leftist has some of the basic centrist political takes possible. 6/10 can we just make a Superman movie without directors needing to suck themselves off.

>>149323708
>>149323767
I think Plas is way too much similar to Mr Fantastic...he was gonna get nixed either way i think,

If Gunn really wants to differentiate his DCU from the MCU, I wouldn't be surprised if having a rotating ensemble for the teams would be the method he goes.
King Shark's already on the Suicide Squad and Creature Commandos

>>149323339
It's Bill for Batman or bust anon. Let go of the clown type cast.

>>149323781
Cry harder faggot and thanks for giving Gunn your money.

>>149323677
Guy isn't a team player and likely will migrate once Lanterns gets off the ground. Also Terrifics Phantom Girl isn't the same one from the Legion/future. She's just an ancestor/alien

>>149323811
I'm gonna go ahead and say they're not adapting her kek

>>149323793
The entire point of the team is to poke fun at The Fantastic Four. You gotta have Plas just for his team chemistry/dynamic.

who played Lara? some retard on /tv/ said it was a Lynda Carter cameo and now they're running with it

>>149323765
Anon has never seen an american Jew go off on Israel's bullshit. It's amazing.

>>149323500
I guess if Alan Tudyk can be cast as the voice of 3 quippy humanoid robots Bill can play another clown

>>149323835
Angela Sarafyan.

>>149323840
I've seen plenty of antizionist Jews, but none of them would accept a writing gig from the Times of Israel.

>>149323596
Hal is fucking dying bro the nigga who's playing him is like 60 lmao

>>149323840
In my experience more American Jews than not are anti-Israel, at least amongst my own friend groups

just came home, good movie

>>149323828
Simple solution that still gives the team a cocky comedic relief. Firestorm.

>>149323432
I want to see Parasite, metallo, and Brainiac on the big screen so badly

>>149323872
Yeah, John is obviously being set up as the main Lantern.

>>149323596
I can't see Hal making it desu. Not only is Hal's actor double the age of Jon Stewart's, he's also double the age of Superman and much older than Hawkgirl's actor.
I think it's far more likely we're probably going to get a team/JL that'll resemble the DCAU's line up.

>>149323835
The older I get, the more I respect that Lynda Carter is the most beautiful woman to ever exist.

>>149323876
Anon you don't have any friends

>>149323872
>>149323915
>>149323927
I'm cool if Jessica becomes resident League Lantern

>>149323086 (OP)
I am going to see this but why does Superman look like Topher Grace?

>>149323793
>>149323828
Plas is too expensive

>>149323915
yeah they need a black guy on the team and they've stopped trying to force Cyborg to fill that quota

>>149323972
Considering she's getting her own cartoon it's probably just through sheer synergy

>>149323972
Maybe she could make it on the team. I don't really see us getting a Justice League movie for a couple of years. Think Gunn's realized that'll be the big in the back of the pocket event film after something like Worlds Finest. And by then, most of the main stay actors so far will be pushing mid 30's, maybe even late 30s which makes younger characters easier to appear on the roster.

>>149323973
BETTY BETTY BO BETTY BANANA NANA BO BETTY
https://youtu.be/Oht7cQDopqI

>>149323927
Maybe Hal will become parallax

>>149323429
>not sure what you mean by this
I'm guessing he's asking how they handle Lois

>>149324378
Yeah but idk what he considers "girl boss". If he means woman doing anything important then yes, Lois is a major character and actually does more in this movie than she does in any other Superman movie. If she means she's hyper-competent and belittles Superman to show how women are the real heroes or whatever, then no. I'd say she's like Gwen Stacy in the Amazing Spider-Man 2 movie minus her dying obviously, in that she helps out and supports Superman but doesn't really take his spotlight.

>>149324421
Alright, that sounds about how she was handled in TAS, and a lot of people are saying this movie feels like TAS already

Snyderbros... we've lost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WToQssKWtmc

>>149324457
More or less yeah, feels very much like her TAS version. Though if I recall in TAS she never actually started dating Superman/Clark. Here she already knows he's Clark from the onset and pretty clearly wants his superdick.

>>149324473
>Indian Classical Instruments
Oh he knows

>>149324477
>Here she already knows he's Clark from the onset and pretty clearly wants his superdick.
I didn't like this decision when I heard about it. Lois finding out should be a second movie development, also this means we miss out on the classic Lois gaslighting we all know and love.

>>149324544
I miss it but desu I also don't really mind it. It's already so played out by the Reeve movies I'm not sure much more can be added to that specific dynamic. While actually seeing them in a relationship isn't ground that's been shown on screen much.

>>149324555
>actually seeing them in a relationship isn't ground that's been shown on screen much
Considering how they did it last time, it makes perfect sense to redo that

>>149323086 (OP)
How did the Kaiju fight end?

>>149323086 (OP)
This movie looks awful

>>149323432
I'm pretty sure Metallo was already introduced and jobbed in some tie in novel released last month

>>149324637
Mr Terrific's t sphere explode in it's stomach and kills it.

>>149323972
based

Pretty sure this movie is floating on a pirate site since there's screengrabs with a player icon on twitter


No idea where though

>>149323086 (OP)
It really fucking was. I'm kind of amazed Gunn got away with it.

>>149323339
holy shit just get a new actor

Best superhero movie since The Dark Knight. That's all.

>>149324637
Justice Gang kill it. Superman spends most of the fight flying around saving people. Afterwards says he wanted to try to lure it away to study it or euthanize it painlessly if they had to, to which Guy Gardner calls him a wuss.

What do we think bros?

>>149325456
we might be back

Fuck…. I’m just glad this movie got a good RT score, shit I don’t even care about the box office numbers at this point it’s gonna do fine either way but god damn

>>149325545
first positive RT score he's had in 20 years lmao.

>>149324941
does it inflate and burst

>>149325664
its stomach? no it just blows up a t-sphere inside it like a grenade and the monster just falls over and dies

How is the Engineer and what does she do?

>>149323322
>Justice Gang
Between this and the upcoming F4 movie refusing to just say Clobbering Time, it seems that sincerity is yet to return to superhero movies.

Is Hawkgirl like she was in the DCAU? Super masculine?

>>149325740
Kind of? She doesn't do all that much in the movie tbqh. Most of her dialogue is her telling Guy Garder that the Justice Gang is a lame name, and then she hits some stuff with her hammer and screeches like a hawk which sounds silly on paper but I thought sounded kind of cool in the movie itself. She also kills an evil dictator guy who thinks she won't kill him because she's a hero to which she replies
>I'm not Superman
and drops him to his death.

>>149325759
that last bit is something DCAU Hawkgirl would do

>>149325770
yeah I would say she's pretty similar in personality to how she was in the DCAU now that I think of it.

So Supergirl shows up drunk? Like....how drunk?

>>149325817
I'm not really sure if it's clear if she's full on drunk, or just kind of acts like that, or is hungover or what. She shows up for a 30 second scene at the end where she's out of it, crashes clumsily and kind of acts like a sorority girl and then plays with Krypto before flying off. Here it is in French.

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1752004657992519.mp4

>>149325843
>>149325817
Superman also mentions how she goes to party every weekend on planets with Red Suns presumably to set up WoT.

>>149323154
>Invincible continues to toxically influence the Superman property
First My Adventures With and now this. Kirkman really did win.

I was a doubter but...........now I'm really fucking hyped. This sounds aawesome

>>149325687
The most baffling one to me is the Bizarro-like character in the Bizarro role that isn't actually Bizarro.
Why even have a retarded Superman clone at that point?

>>149325687
I mean they can't call themselves the Justice League because they want to save that for when they actually make that movie with the main JL members it's not a sincerity afraid to use the name because it's corny deal.

>>149323154
Gunn REALLY hates families characters are born into. His found family fetish is starting to get really gross.

Zod can take a break. Although Snyder was right that finding the next proper villain is difficult and things should probably be taken more extraterrestrial because he’s just too powerful of a character. The three that come to mind are Brainiac, Metallo, and Parasite. Of which Brainiac is the only one that feels like a complete screen presence. Metallo is an offshoot of Luthor and Parasite would just be a slump movie. Even with this whimsical version of Superman I don’t think characters like Toy Man and Weather Wizard can be done without blatantly nerfing Superman or making him retarded. In any case I don’t think we’re another “solo” Superman film for a while as Gunn is more interested in the DCU as a whole than the individual character.

>>149325456
Has potential. Need to see her solo outing first. Also don't think her solo outing's gonna do well until it hits streaming.

>>149325982
They could always just try and adapt For the Man Who Has Everything again.

>>149326005
A kino story but it’s too “edgy” and snydery from what audiences are supposedly clamoring for.

>>149326005
They should at least wait until the new DCU Batman and Wonder Woman are established. That story hits harder when the Black Mercy attaches to Bruce and he envisions Thomas Wayne overtaking the mugger. Also would probably want to wait until Mongul crosses paths with Superman outside of that story

>>149323154
I really dislike it and along with the overall trend to devalue Krypton as just the place where he was born. This insistence that he has to choose between Earth and Krypton is kinda asinine imo and makes Superman a less interesting character.

>>149325687
>upcoming F4 movie refusing to just say Clobbering Time
I'm pretty sure he's going to say it. The main reason why he didn't in the trailer is because they are building up to it so fans can get excited when he does.

>>149326095
Personally I never cared for it because Superman has never been to Krypton aside from when he was an infant and has no memory of it, nor was he even raised with its culture like a 2nd gen immigrant. I'm genetically Irish but if Ireland got blown up tomorrow I would mourn the loss of life, sure, but I wouldn't take it as if I lost my home.

Supergirl makes more sense to do the whole immigrant thing torn between two worlds imo.

>>149323086 (OP)
Does Superman get called Superman a lot or does Gunn just do the usual superhero movie thing of everyone calling him by his civilian name? Like how they kept calling Iron Man by Tony or Stark instead of Iron Man throughout his MCU appearances. Or how Gunn himself used Quill instead of Star-Lord for much of his GotG trilogy.
TL;DR is he usually addressed as Clark or Kent rather than Superman?

>>149326135
>Superman get called Superman a lot
Yes, by pretty much everyone aside from Lois and his parents. There's a scene where it's revealed the Justice Gang also knows his identity, but they still call him Superman in public.

>>149326005
booooooring, you wanna do cosmic you do Kismet

>>149326053
That story might just be too deep into the verse. The thing about live action is there’s a finite amount of time. The MCU got to Thanos (a neutered one at that) in 10 years before it fizzled out. Likewise Gunn will only have 10 years before audiences get bored, and that’s if the DCU is lucky and doesn’t fizzle sooner. It’s still hard to say how this will pan out, I’m skeptical. The clock starts ticking now and we probably aren’t going to get the Justice League INTRODUCTION until 2029 at the earliest. Gunn will be able to do one major villain (Darkseid, Brainiac, or Savage) and then the party is over.

I’d love another DCAU that could thoroughly explore, DC and Young Justice scratched that itch for a little while but we all know what happened. Gunn doesn’t seem to keen on sharing studio resources with non DCU projects.

>>149323411
Meds. Now.

>>149326151
Good. I fucking hate how ashamed live action superhero movies are of superhero aliases.

there is a brazilian project coming so maybe that means Fyre aka JLI down the line

>>149326132
Superman/Superboy used to hang out on Krypton all the time, he even does it in this run back when Krypton would fade in and out of existence every so often and he had a ton of family.

>>149325456
>No tummy
Soulless

>>149325843
>Supergirl, a wholesome teen girl character, is now a 30 year old roastie party whore
Fucking garbage

>>149326190
We got thighs, so we had to make a compromise somewhere

>>149326189
Yeah but he hasn't in forever and even when he did it was through time travel shenanigans which I always thought was kind of dumb. You can't have him be raised as an infant by the Kents and have him also casually hanging out on Krypton all the time too with wacky time travel stories, which make it feel like Krypton was never even destroyed at all really. Personally I'm fine with just giving the whole split heritage and immigrant angle to Supergirl. It makes more sense.

>>149325456
After Ironheart, the Jewish gremlin in Cap 4, and the fat faces in Thunderbolts, this was a welcome surprise.

>>149326200
>supergirl is a sorority girl slut
kino

You want to know how good the movie was?
this was basically from the movie
If you like Byrne's run you are going to loved it

>>149326221
really did feel extremely Byrne coded which is kind of ironic given it's the polar opposite of the movie titled Man of Steel.

>>149326207
oh it's dumb as fuck, that's why it never happened post crisis except that one time with Braniac 13 but it was a simulation

but it did happen when the evil Bendis appeared

>>149326221
Yeah, I've heard the movie described as if Byrne made Birthright.

>>149323429
That’s surprising given how much of Peacemaker was him and Vigilante being bullied and talked down to by the plainclothes cast members.

>>149326132
I think this changes significantly on account of Superman's demonstrable physical differences as a result of his heritage that aren't anyway comparable to being from an Irish background. Post Crisis attempt to flatten this by:
>making him a baby when he arrives on Earth
>turning him into a mutant who gains his powers after puberty
That aside the differences between him and everyone else are still stark and would encourage
To illustrate my father was Iranian but died when I was a baby. I have never been to Iran, was not raised with Iranian culture yet I still have an enormous affection for the country, firstly on account of my affection for my father as a figure in my life and also on account of the fact that my heritage is so demonstrably palpable in my body in comparison with all the other people around me. It's not a 1 to 1 corollary; having curly hair and a big nose isn't the same thing as being able to fucking fly. It's an even more starker contrast which would alienate Superman more.
John Byrne, who started all this off, made a similar point that you did based of his experience however I don't think moving from England to an essentially a colder English colony (Canada) is as stark a disruption as Superman would feel.

This is all beside the point as I like Supermans's attachment to Krypton for other reasons than "it makes psychological sense" (you can make lots of ideas make psychological sense, people are weird).

>>149326285
Peacemaker is supposed to be a dumbfuck, and Vigilante even moreso. Superman not so much as he's very much painted as "in the right" in 90% of the movie. Even in the argument with Lois it's depicted more as conflicting, but equally valid takes than Lois getting one over on him. The only one who really talks down to him is Guy, who is clearly depicted as a bit of a blowhard.

>>149326294
>physical differences as a result of his heritage
But that's not even really a Kryptonian thing because 99% of Kryptonians do not have his abilities, as they grew up and died on a planet with a red sun. His powers don't bring him any closer to Kryptonians. He could've just as easily been a mutant from Marvel with the same powers and he'd be the same person.

Even your example of being Iranian is different because you can relate to other Iranians, at least on some superficial level because they all look like you. Superman doesn't look like Kryptonians any more than he looks like a human, and Kryptonians wouldn't understand what it's like to have Superman's powers because they didn't have them.

>>149326309
His powers are a result of his Kryptonian heritage regardless. His powers aren't incidental to his DNA, all Kryptonians are living solar batteries. It just so happens that the Krypton didn't have a young enough sun at that time to create a super society (though in some early versions it did). Taken all together, the circumstances of Superman's coming here and flourishing are so extraordinary, it doesn't make sense at all to me that he'd be like "don't care, USA USA."
>Kryptonians wouldn't understand what it's like to have Superman's powers because they didn't have them
See that's a good example why I like the idea of Superman identifying as Kryptonian. Superman feels a connection to Kryptonian survivors but do they feel the same way about him? Is he tainted in some way? It's just one small example but for me giving Superman some form of internal struggle (which is not decided easily by "Krypton was boring" or Jor El being evil) over his identity has more dramatic potential and makes him a richer character as opposed to one who just picks Earth because he was raised there.
And by "struggle," I don't mean angst and moping as you saw in Smallville all the time. It can remain implicit and be the more engaging for it.

>>149326536
But 99% of Kryptonians don't know they're solar batteries and it doesn't impact their culture whatsoever. If you found a planet where humans can shoot fireballs, it wouldn't make you have a deeper connection to humanity because most humans cannot shoot fireballs. He can connect to Supergirl or Powergirl, sure, but not most Kryptonians just because of his powers. He has more of a connection to Wonder Woman than your average Kryptonian. I'm not saying he should be "USA USA" but it certainly makes sense that he'd say "Earth is my home, not Krypton," because it is.

I'm not sure why he would connect to Krypton aside from the very basic fact that he's biologically related to them, which feels boring. He has nothing in common with them in his personal life, culturally, even physically. It's by pure happenstance of his genetics.

>>149325868
I don't think it's Invincible as much as it is the Boys that influenced this honestly. like I understand that Viltrum Empire is the obvious connection but the movie being positive and hopeful feels more like a response to The Boys show getting popular than Invincible (which despite the gore and violence is still an honest-to-god young superhero story)
>>149325960
>His found family fetish
what are you even talking about man

>>149326209
Thunderbolts had a hot cast what the fuck are you on about, even the pajeeta looked good

>>149325456
I'm glad they chose her over McKenna

>>149326160
Would be cool to get Cavill and Gadot to show up for a minute as a gag, then right back to Corenswet like nothing happened.

>>149323086 (OP)
>God damn this movie was good

so was Ultraman really played by Henry Cavill or was that just Snyderfag tiktokers cope

His Kryptonian heritage is still the source of his differences. Affection for a home country (or world) is not born out of a literal 1 to 1 set of shared commonalities but a shared origin point of the commonalities. Earth is his home, there isn't a mainstream version of Superman which would contradict that, but Krypton is still where he's from and that which makes him Superman. It's not incidental, it's absolutely fundamental to his whole character. It would be bizarre and at the very least incurious for him to have scant interest in it whatsoever.

I just fundamentally disagree that this "Earth First" Superman is a more interesting or convincing take on the character. It is far more boring to me, in that the end result of it is often the closing off of a whole part of the character's identity.

>>149326787
His Kryptonian heritage is still the source of his differences. Affection for a home country (or world) is not born out of a literal 1 to 1 set of shared commonalities but a shared origin point of the commonalities. Earth is his home, there isn't a mainstream version of Superman which would contradict that, but Krypton is still where he's from and that which makes him Superman. It's not incidental, it's absolutely fundamental to his whole character. It would be bizarre and at the very least incurious for him to have scant interest in it whatsoever.

I just fundamentally disagree that this "Earth First" Superman is a more interesting or convincing take on the character. It is far more boring to me, in that the end result of it is often the closing off of a whole part of the character's identity.

>>149327225
Why waste Cavill on fucking notBizzaro when you can cast him as Kal-L?

Hell, bring in Rosenbaum as Alexander Luthor Jr. and Tom Welling as Superboy Prime

>>149323086 (OP)
At first I was confused as to why All-Star Superman is the inspiration because the movie's premise seems to be more akin to What's So Funny About Truth Justice but after watching the movie I completely understand. It's so fuxkingzany and unrealistic and I love it. I mean ffs even current MCU feels more grounded. Now I'm interested at what DCU Batman can bring.

The most amazing part is that they nailed the wackiness element. I mean conpare this to the Flash where it tried to be fantastical but ended up looking dumb, but here? It just works.

>>149327248
Tom Welling is too old to play Superbor-Prime, and Henry Cavill as Kal-L feels... wrong? I don't see him as the GA Superman-type but maybe Gunn can do it. I know this movie is doing it differently but I do think Cavill as Earth-3 Superman could be cool. or better yet, make him Cyborg Superman, definitely feels like a character Gunn would love to adapt.

>>149326214
>supergirl is a sorority girl slut
For real, they basically spelled out thay she had orgies and such.

>>149324544
it does feel like that's increasingly becoming a thing of the past, and Lois usually quickly figures out he's Superman. especially when she meets and interacts with Superman multiple occasions rather than just seeing him once or twice in action and not really making out his face, those are more believable situations for Lois not immediately realizing that Superman and Clark look identical.

>>149325982
what about Livewire

>>149325687
that's clearly because they want to save the actual Justice League for later with the real members. and the F4 thing is just marketing bullshit.

>>149325982
Snyder wrote himself into a corner with all the talk about Superman being a God on Earth or whatever, it meant he could only go higher and higher and resort to using cosmic-scale JL villains rather than Superman's own rogues gallery here on Earth.

>>149326135
that sounds like different cases desu, Tony being Iron Man is public knowledge in the MCU since the first film and he's too much of a celebrity superstar so he's gonna be called that by everyone over Iron Man. on the other hand, Star-Lord is obviously a corny name for a dude with twin blasters and a jetpack so again it makes sense to be called Quill almost all the time.

>>149323510
I mean it's not like anti-Zionist movements in Hollywood only began in 2023, or that the Gazan genocide hasn't been happening for decades now

>>149324544
Yeah I prefer the "love triangle" between Superman, Clark and Lois but it hasn't been a thing for decades now sadly and I don't think they'll ever bring it back in any adaptation due to it making Lois look stupid. Though there's a weird slight of hand that people play there where people are happy with maintaing the secret identity and everyone else looking retarded but not Lois for some reason.

>>149323563
Pattinson is open to being in the DCU anon, he's more frustrated that Reeves took so long and that he's growing too old to keep playing the same young Bruce in the first movie

>>149323944
she really is

>>149327283
>I don't see him as the GA Superman-type
Bro what?

>>149327225
Why would snyderfans want Cavill in a film which was made by cancelling the Cavill version so the director could make his vanity project?
Cameos like that might excite consoomers like you, but not me

>>149327382
there's genuinely a bunch of Snydertards who believe Cavill and Gunn went behind SNyder's back to make Cavill play an evil Superman clone who causes destruction and kills civilians recklessly to mock Man of Steel and the fight against Zod. these arent your usual "bring back Cavill" fans but ones that hate him too, especially when he appeared in Deadpool 3 as a cameo since that meant he "betrayed the DC fandom"

>>149327382
Snyder fans aren’t the ones behind that theory

>>149325675
Luthor's secondary goon behind Ultraman. Does goon things. No Authority or WS references at all. Her nanite powers were given to her by Lex and she shares his hatred of metahumans so much she was willing to become one.

not every Snyderkek likes Cavill or wants him back, a small but not unimportant number of them don't want the Snyderverse back anymore they just want divine retribution against the industry that wronged their GOAT

>>149327322
Given BvS and the DCEU didn’t happen and the trilogy plan stayed intact it looks like Snyder was going to go Zod>Metallo>Brainiac. While directly butting heads in the second movie I guess the third movie would be Superman teaming up with Lex to defeat Brainiac.
>resort to using cosmic-scale JL villains rather than Superman's own rogues gallery here on Earth.
Looks like Gunn is doing that. From here on out he’s moving towards the Justice League. The chances of getting another solo Superman film within the next 5 years is grim.

Jor-El explicitly telling Superman to have sex with as many women as he possibly can was really weird lol

>>149326221
That suit is so good. I love when the logo is huge

The movie is literally about Superman saving Not!Palestine from Not!Israel, which is based

>>149325982
Feels like Ultraman has taken Bizarro's thunder so no him either.
Would love to see a Mxy film but difficult to write - we know Gunn is fond of Bat-Mite so who knows?
Besides them that's sort of it for major villains. I imagine they'll want to save Darkseid for the future. Probably no Mongul as a result as visually a little too similar. I'm partial to Terra-Man but I'm retarded.

>>149327344
It also makes Superman look bad, just a massive amount of deception and mind games for zero reason.

>>149327636
Because it's fun

>>149327124
I look like this and I say this

>>149327503
#superharem

>>149327594
>Mxy film
>But he is in this film

>>149327708
Is the glowing jellyfish orb form from the comics?

>>149326200
I don't like that very much, but it is not a new thing for Supergirl's character, her return to comics in 2003 had DC go exactly for that kind of angle for Kara, she wasn't the nice and pure cousin, but the brash and rebellious cousin.

The New 52 did away with that, making Supergirl be the stranger in a strange planet kind of character, and Rebirth tried to make her the nice girl cousin again.

It just so happens Gunn's Supergirl is dressed like the current comics Supergirl, but she being a drunk blonde is tracing back to the 2003 Supergirl who wants to party hard.

>>149327723
It resembles the conquering star or whathisname from All Star Superman

>>149327708
>Probably no Mongul

I wonder if the female Mongul from The Suicide Squad is still canon.

>>149327708
I didn't notice him

>>149325843
holy hell that dog is fucking insane

>>149327754
My friend has a terrier who's exactly like this
He's such a little bastard, steals my shoes every time I visit

>>149327751
The orb thing the Justice Gang fights in the background when Superman talks to Lois is referred to as fifth dimensional imp by him

>>149326200
>30 year old roastie
you added those words, besides it makes more sense for Kara to be the rebellious kind like >>149327725 anyway

>>149327743
Unlikely, I noticed the black woman who knocks Amanda Waller out with a golf club and got arrested in TSS appears in Superman as the Secretary of Defense.

>>149327762
Oh I caught imp, didn't realize it was specifically fifth dimensional. Really cool

>>149327781
that was a funny scene, Waller getting knocked out

>>149327781
But Waller is still in the doghouse due to her minions rising up and exposing her shady business...Gunn probably just likes the actress and decided to cast her again, like he does with all his friends.

>>149327781
>>149327836
from what I heard, Peacemaker is firmly set within the new DCU but the 2021 Suicide Squad film is "loose canon" meaning the events happened but the exact details are different. which is fine because Bloodsport shooting a Kryptonite bullet at Superman makes more sense if it's the new guy rather than Henry Cavill, but it also makes Aquaman's appearance in Peacemaker S1 weird.

>>149323086 (OP)

My favorite thing about this movie is that it sets a tone of "anything goes" for the DCU

I am now genuinely hopeful of seeing stuff like Plastic man, Bizarro, Etrigan and Metal Men.
I want to see Ted Kord and Booster Gold in this world and goofy Flash shit.

>>149323154
I'm pretty sure it's a mistranslation. The first part had a different word choice from what the super robots translated, and the part lex gave out seemed off in comparison.

Doesn't matter too much, because I enjoyed the payoff of the parent footage at the very end

>>149327892
As I recall, Gunn said that pretty much everything in Peacemaker is canon except the Justice League cameo at the end. People also wonder if they'll retcon some of the stuff by having Peacemaker take the place of the alt-universe Peacemaker they show in the season 2 trailer, and the new universe is this one with the new Supes.

>>149327892
Going by the teaser and interviews, it seems more like the OG Peacemaker cast from the DCEU travel to the DCU using the pocket universe portals from Superman and end up usurping their DCU counterparts.

The movie establishes a very specific tone (campy but sincere and comic booky, ala the Sam Raimi Spider-Man movies) for the setting that it might feel weird when Lanterns drops next year, considering the whole premise of that series is a grounded and gritty GL drama which the leaks say will involve Hal and Jon cucking a white supremacist leader by fucking his wife and daughter respectively.

>>149327998
>grounded and gritty GL drama
What lmao

Saars???

>>149328122
Grounded as in realistic characters

>>149328158
Sounds dull

>>149327998
James Gunn has specifically critiqued the MCU movies for all having the same tone and said they're specifically avoiding that. Clayface is a body horror movie and they're doing it early just to establish that anything goes

>>149327936
Fuck, please no more Multiverse fuckery

>Most powerful metahuman
Is he really? I feel like in the grand scheme of the DC universe, he's around middle tier

>>149328587
Most powerful right now. Maybe things will change down the line. Superman is definitely the most powerful we've seen so far in this continuity, Guy Gardner's actor said Guy's an idiot if he thinks he can beat Superman in a fight

>>149325843
I like how she shows off her upper teeth. That turns me on.

>>149323086 (OP)
>GOTG but superman
i'm sure you enjoyed this slop

>>149328904
Felt more like Sam Raimi but Superman

>>149328904
jeet

>>149328919
That's the exact vibe I got, like if Spider-Man 2 was a Superman movie

Sigh, they went with the dumb goof version of Superman. I still like that version of him but it's weird that Gunn said All Star was a huge inspiration for him when that's the exact opposite of his character in All Star where his brain matches if not exceeds his brawn
Good movie though

>>149329005
That sounds fucking great

>>149328134
god I hate that Snyderkeks are primarily associated with my country now

>>149329356
Yeah man I loved it. Cannot wait to see it again.
There's one exchange I loved at the end, it's hardly a spoiler but don't click if you don't want to see anything: Superman and Mr Terrific are looking at their cleanup job after one of the big fights and one of the buildings they repaired is a little uneven, Superman makes a comment about it and Mr Teriffic gets annoyed and walks off. Superman shouts "It looks good! I shouldn't have brought it up!" then mutters "Gosh I can be such a jerk sometimes."
This is an after credits scene and I hope it implies the future of after credits scenes for this series, I don't like when after credits stuff is just setting up for sequels that may or may not happen or plans that probably won't come true

>>149329338
Corenswets' Superman reminded me of a younger version of DCAU Superman who is genuinely well-meaning but terrible at making arguments regarding the implications around metahumans and politics, because their only points are their repeated insistence that they would never turn evil.

>>149329359
Sorry. It’s just a meme that got out of hand because of how hateful the fandom split is. In actuality, I’ve seen a lot of the Snyderfags that are either chuds obsessed with wokeness, and from places like Khazakstan or whatever the fuck

>>149329424
For me I think it's specifically For All Seasons Superman but Gunn did cite DCAU as a huge inspiration

>You just walk around with this attitude like everyone has this beautiful, amazing soul underneath
>Well maybe that's the real punk rock.

>>149321843
>85% Certified Fresh
>95% Audience Score
What's it like to be proven a stupid cunt? People care about Superman, even if it's a morally gray imitator.

>>149323411
>/col/
That's not a thing.

>>149323086 (OP)
Honestly, probably the best cinematic Lex we could have asked for. He comes in third only after DCAU and Smallville Lex, which is fine since those other two had multiple seasons of development.

>>149329688
I think he's too young but he still did great

I'm so happy that they kicked the infallible larger than life divine prophet shit the curb and gave us a man who laughs and gets angry and scared and tries to do his best even when he doesn't know what to do
This is SUCH a good take on the character, my fucking God. About time

>>149328904
One more time, but without tears in your eyes.

>>149329688
People keep forgetting about YJ Luthor who is arguably better than both
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUFqyyhMQH8
Too bad YJ Superman blows
>>149329835
Fallibility wasn't the problem with Snyder's Superman, it was lack of personality. Every time Cavill gets a chance in Man of Steel to actually say things instead of being a mute punching machine he kills it

>>149329897
You're right, I did forget about him.
Season 1&2 Young Justice probably had the best 'baseline' Luthor but I still think DCAU Lex is the greatest rendition of the character with how much stuff he gets to do in that universe.

>>149329977
It also helps that Clancy Brown could read a dictionary on screen and I’d listen to it.
But yeah DCAU Lex runs through nearly all of Lex’s various roles over the years, it’s a hard interpretation to top.

>>149329688
I’m worried he might lack some of that subtlety that the DCAU did so well. One reviewer compared him to High Evolutionary levels of spaztic. Every Superman project always comes out with their own flavor of Luthor tho, so I’ll be going in with an open mind

>>149329688
I really got into his portrayal when it was revealed that
he literally runs a troll factory of monkeys who are the main source of hate and smear campaigns against Superman on the internet and imprisons his ex-girlfriends alongside political prisoners and metahumans in his pocket dimension.
Then of course his rant near the end where he feels offended that people keep comparing him to genuises pike Einstein, Newton, and Galileo because he's far superior to all of them and the reveal that he kickstarted a geopolitical war simply to provide a reasonable excuse for him to kill Superman

>>149330252
Yeah Gunn was definitely in love with Morrisson's Lex and just wanted to do that

>>149330252
The film emphasizes his pettiness and jealousy of Superman compared to how restrained and sly he is in most of his other depictions, although I think that's what makes him very entertaining. He's a silver age villain in a modern comic book movie.

>>149323236
No birthing matrix, no man of murder
The key Byrne contributions lie in the wastebin of history

>Jim Kim called, he wants to see this movie and also wants a new Batman movie too,
>He can’t watch it because he’s stuck in detention with 6 friends, some insanely annoying girl scout and a crazed evil teacher

So glad to hear you all enjoyed MCU slop but with DC characters this time.

>>149330619
Thanks man, glad to hear you're seething

Has WB said the budget for Supergirl anywhere yet? I feel like it can't possibly turn a profit

>>149323581
>>149323551
The time to do Superman vs The Elite was this movie, the first new Superman movie in well over 12 years in this media climate. Gunn played it safe and just went with Lex Luthor but baited people with including the Engineer. Manchester Black can work as a villain but you'd have to majorly elongate the story into a 2 hour feature and plus normies would complain if Superman could end the conflict from the start but just wanted to prove a point. Sadly, it might just work better as a comic/cartoon than a movie where the stakes are ideological instead of punchy punchy.

>>149330619
It doesn't involve the multiverse or fanservice nostalgia so it's a step above in my book

>Not a comic
>Not a cartoon
>Not deleted
God damn I hate this ratchet ass site

>>149323432
Atomic Skull would look so cool in live action.

>>149328904
Its raimi superman
Meanwhile Sneeder idea was what if superman was... Le batman?

How was Lex Luthor? I dearly miss the DCAU Lex and can't stand the modern tech bro takes.

Saar pls redeem the film saar is good I promis e

>>149330701
I'm afraid it's been 17 years

How does this Lex compare to the Smallville one?

>>149330735
It's All Star Lex, the closest it is to DCAU Lex is season 2 of JLU

>>149330735
Beat character the film imo but distinct from DCAU Lex, who was colder and more calculating while DCU Lex is defined by his sheer dedication to hating on and killing Superman.

>>149330619
*raimi kino

It's insane how much of a difference the director setting a tone makes. I'm not seeing anyone claim that Superman killing Bizarro is as serious as him killing Zod.

>>149323086 (OP)
Is this the New Avengers of DC?

>>149327998
>>149328919
>>149329005
I always said in order for modern Superman to be popular in the modern setting is to basically copy Spider-Man minus the new modern era of the Wall Crawler, but in a hopeful Jesus meets Hercules sorta way.

>>149330839
New Avengers? Wdym?

>>149330735
>>149330774
Pic related is essentially Lex's motive in the new movie

>>149330774
>>149330792
Sounds agreeable to me.

>>149330865
>I started a war in Boravia just so I'd have an excuse to kill you

>>149325883
Gotta kneecap toku's attempts at western expansion by making normies associate the name Ultraman with an evil Superman clone and not the silver giant.

>>149331043
Watching it with my nephew (he's a fan of Ultraman) and he looked at me when they started calling him Ultraman.

>>149331193
That's cute lol

>>149329427
yeah but the most vocal and self-reporting Snyderfags are Indian so now that's another mark against us, MoS/BvS really ruined an entire generation of Indian teens into thinking DC stories are "mature and dark" and genuinely believe Snyder's filmmaking is in any way respectable or original

Snyder’s and Gunn’s Superman were both bloated, ugly messes, emotionally immature messes, just in different ways

>>149329897
I genuinely believe Cavill could've been a top 3 superhero casting (along the lieks of RDJ and Hugh) if he was actually paired with a competent writer who understood the character and the world around him well. instead we got a hack Elseworlds comic turned into multimillion failures and some genuinely great casting choices wasted with it. DCEU Superman was always portrayed as a caricature he is not, and Clark never gets a proper chance to actually humanize himself as someone other than said caricature

>>149331642
Cavill is one of those characters that can perfectly embody his character with his real life personality, but gets neutered by a regarded director.

>>149330735
would he not be a techbro in contemporary times? the movie circumvents it by just making him act like a Silver Age comicbook-ey villain but realistically a modern-day Lex Luthor would 100% be a techbro

>>149329408
>I don't like when after credits stuff is just setting up for sequels that may or may not happen or plans that probably won't come true
i'm still mad

>>149331687
WHO FUCKING CARES ABOUT MODERN DAY VILLAINS
I DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT TECH BROS
WHY CANT LEX JUST BE A WACKY EVIL SCIENTIST WITH A FUCKING BADASS ROBO SUIT
FUCK YOOOOOOOOUUUUU

>>149331720
He's an arms dealer who builds pocket dimensions and bizarre clones don't worry

>>149331720
calm down, I enjoy Lex being Lex but I was just honestly asking. I know Snyder tried to modernize Lex but it didn't really work and just made him a schizo evil variant of Tony in Iron Man 3. wouldn't a modern-day take on Lex essentially be an Elon Musk parody?

>>149331720
Because STAS was 30 years ago and that was already 10 after post-crisis. Very few people under 40 know a Luthor who is not a businessman or tied to tech.

>>149331687
>a modern-day Lex Luthor would 100% be a techbro
that would be his industry maybe, but it wouldn't be his personality.

is Jor-El actually played by Kurt Russell or Bradley Cooper or just some other random guy?

>>149323432
I dream of seeing a good live-action Livewire.
Hell, I'm surprised that Leslie didn't have a cameo in this movie considering how much emphasis it puts on Superman getting hate online.

>>149331945
>how much emphasis it puts on Superman getting hate online.
James really takes all those twitter posts personally, doesn't he?

>>149331740
it's better this way. there are a lot of mad scientists in DC, losing one isn't gonna hurt.
and Lex as a businessman or politician works better as a foil to Superman. he's the societal inertia that diminishes Superman's good deeds. he's the economic and political interests that complicate attempts at improvement. he's the institutions that can ruin your life all while you're helpless to do anything about it. that is Superman's greatest obstacle.

>>149330862
Like I said, will this generate the same hype as thr first Avengers movie?

>>149331886
Bradley Cooper

>>149331945
They probably didn't wanna commit to an actress they might never bring back

>>149331983
Well yeah, the entire identity of the new Superman is built on not being Zack Snyder and Henry Cavill

>>149332024
anybody got an image? I felt like Kurt Russell would've been perfect but I guess they're aiming for a younger Jor-El

The way you can tell Superman is a great character despite varying quality of his movies is because he seems to elicit great music no matter who is at the helm
Something about the core of the character is just beautiful, even if film productions often have trouble bringing the strengths of that core to the forefront
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkeLGnAr36A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkeLGnAr36A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkeLGnAr36A

>>149332152

>>149332381
How did I paste the same link three times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PynBCMpaE48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7WjXqmR7yg

>>149332387
wow thats so not what I expected, they didnt even change anything its just Bradley looking like himself

>>149332024
>>149332387
Can't wait for Dave Bautista to be Mongul

>>149333028
He'd be good

>>149329637
>Homelander sees a non-corporate superhero who has all of his powers but better
>Even has the public's love and admiration
>Seethes
>Finds out Superman is an alien
>He's playing second fiddle to a fucking spaceman
>Goes to Lex Luthor to propose a partnership to kill Superman
>Fails spectacularly because neither trusted the other

Is it worth seeing it in imax or the biggest screen you can?

So does the movie deal with the political implications of superhumans actively engaging in interstate wars or nah?

>>149326033
It worked in the DCAU

>>149333748
Yes, but only on a surface level of "This could be dangerous"

>>149333501
I feel like Lex wouldn't want to work with Homelander since HL is far too unstable thus a massive liability

Billy Butcher though, he'd manipulate the everliving fuck out of

>>149333599
I saw it in IMAX and had a great time, seeing it in Dolby this weekend. Spend the extra $5

>>149333810
Lex would find Homelander amusing and immediately get to working on controlling him, directly or indirectly. Butcher is closer to Lex actually "working together" as opposed to just pulling strings on Homelander

>>149323322
>Luthor is a mad scientist with a clone of Superman
And he uses the clone to frame Superman, right?

AND HE USES THE CLONE TO FRAME SUPERMAN, RIGHT?!?

>>149333890
Not to frame him but he gets him in trouble by using the clone to create a "fake" supervillain that's seeking retribution against Superman's actions in Boravia

>>149331569
To be fair to Snyder. He has a good visual eye, It's just everything else about his movies that leave much to be desired.

>>149333810
>Billy Butcher though, he'd manipulate the everliving fuck out of
Butcher isn't stupid though, he knows when he's being buttered up or taken for a ride.
He'd almost immediately realize Lex has ulterior motives

>>149333907
NTA, he's got an eye for cinematography sure but I do find his excessive reliance on iconic comic panels a symptom of him being unable to come up something similar by himself

>>149333748
Hawkgirl straight up murders the president of Not!Israel and that magically solves all conflicts.

>>149333951
based and Hawkgirlpilled

>>149333951
BASED MONER KINO

>>149333812
where the fuck do you live that imax and dolby are only $5 extra

>>149333951
her action directly lead to the government taking a more heavy handed approach to metas, did you miss the final scene with flag?

>>149333902
>Not to frame him
Dumbass plot

>>149328587
If they say "metahuman" specifically as opposed to "most powerful being", Superman would definitely be a contender. Obviously any comicbook universe is going to have various cosmic superbeings, but it's a very short list of regular superheroes/mortals who are up there with him. Even with those guys (i.e., Martian Manhunter, The Flash) it depends on who's writing the story.

I'm sorry but the final fight in Boravia was so lame, the invasion of the country was just one tiny village getting hit with tanks

>>149323086 (OP)
Sorry sars...i fell into a coma, how bad are the reviews?
When is Zack coming back?

>>149334103
em sorri brother

>>149334111
oh nonononononon...

>>149323327
I'm really curious why Mercy got the shaft and was essentially replaced by a character from The Authority. Ultraman also seems to basically just be a stand in for Bizarro. Really if Gunn wanted some humor, Bizarro would have been a decent choice for a villain, being a defective clone who isn't even entirely evil and all.

>>149334209
Dude Mercy is a cyborg in the last decade at best the engy did not replace her, i'm pretty sure she is gonna be introduced in the following movies.

>>149334209
The clone has to earn being bizarre, he'll be back in the next movie all white, broken, and backwards.

>>149323551
The problem with that is that those are villains other than Luthor or Zod, and WB/Hollywood seems too scared of those.

>>149323154
Morally dubious Krypton can work but it has to be in a way that directly mirrors or compares to our own flaws, rather than to to glorify Earth vs evil aliens.
Krypton doesn't have to be perfect, neither do Kal's parents, that's not the point, it's how they relate it back to earth that matters.
If it's just "Earth good, Krypton bad" then you're throwing away half of Clark's heritage, he's not just human or just kryptonian, he's both.

>>149323605
>end up being The Terrifics instead of a league
Here's my pitch, just do both.

>>149323086 (OP)
just got back from the cinema

i really like it, but the interview was fucking bad

>>149334263
movies ain't cheap. you're either doing bizarro or you're not. and if you're not, don't put another character in the same role.

>>149323330
Anti Israel is the true Jewish position, Israel is for WASP doomsday freaks and whatever you call jewish-to-christian goys.

superkeks..

>>149334983
WW holds up less and less in hindsight. It's alright but I think people were so desperate to give the DCEU an unqualified win by that point they overcorrected.

Hopefully this movie will finally shut the Superman shitposter up

>>149333979
Yes, it was quite a stupid scene. You're telling me metahumans have existed since the begining of America and they're just now taking action against them? Frankenstein going around killing people in his fights with The Bride wasn't enough I guess?
Also as bad as guy he was, he was still an ally of the United States. They would take out Hawkgirl for that.

>>149331713
It's a shame that Shazam was a casualty of WB's fuckups, the first movie was really, really solid and they just dump all the potential by using some gay OC that make no fucking sense.

>>149335066
It won't, but I take solace in the very fact that he'll be judged forever wrong.

>>149329740
I think he pairs up well with Cornsweat, you kinda want Luthor to be around the same age.

He desperately wants the phone call from Gunn. Should Ackles be given a shot for World's Finest and Batman Brave & The Bold. We've seen how old Hal Jordan is

>>149330701
Cross-media threads have always been allowed as long as the source material of the subject in question belongs on the board. You can make live action Death Note threads on /a/ if you want even.

>>149335014
That plus some people were desperate for a woman-led capeshit movie to be successful that they ended up glazing something that was just okay kinda like that Captain Marvel movie.

>>149335385
Brave and the Bold isn't happening, even if this movie makes a billion (it won't)

>>149332401
Despite everything Zimmer's soundtrack for Man of Steel shows that you CAN do a serious Superman movie. It's just not the ones Snyder made.
If you close your eyes and listen to the Man of Steel soundtrack you will create in your head a perfect Superman movie. It's that good. It's just too bad that the person that music ended up in the hands of was Zack Snyder.

>>149335628
>Brave and the Bold isn't happening
Why?

>>149335641
Downsizing, or still trying to negotiate with Reeves for Battinson's inclusion.

>>149335356
For me disagree, I like him ten or fifteen years older

>>149333951
WTF Hawkgirl is now my favorite superhero!?!?

>>149335148
>They would take out Hawkgirl for that.
They would have to get through Superman first

Oh shit, I didn't know Terrific was gonna be in this bitch.

>>149335774
You don't know what the hell you're talking about. They're not forcing Pattison into the DCU

>>149323086 (OP)
I aint seen it yet DONT SPOIL IT FOR ME ALRIGHT. I think I'm gonna take my dad to see it I'm pretty sure he's getting dementia and I can't convince him to get checked out by a doctor so that's gonna be fun in a couple years.

>>149336130
Clark Kent is Superman

>Barely makes a quarter of what CHADrassic CHAD did
Superbros....

>>149336273
Is the movie even out yet? I thought it was all just limited pre-premieres

>>149336273
I'm mad that they centered on the best T. rex design in the entire franchise and then they gave it one scene. If that T. rex was the main villain of the whole movie it would clear 1 billion easily

>>149336302
120 million projection

So did James Gunn understand Superman or it's just another good comic book movie?

>>149336331
I imagine that being quite a bit better now that word of mouth has generally been pretty positive

>>149336546
Sort of both. In literally every single comic Gunn said he referenced, Superman is portrayed as smart and wise, but in the movie itself Corenswet's Superman is goofy as hell.
Superman isn't a genius all the time but it's just weird that Gunn made such a point of talking about All Star and What's so Funny but ended up making his Superman's personality nothing like those iterations.

>>149336546
>So did James Gunn understand Superman
I think so, he did a good job straddling the line between earnestness and slightly goofy charm and overall kept him a very human character instead of the Supergod bullshit. As other people have said he's basically a synthesis of Byrne and Morrison's runs so if you like them any you might like this one.

>>149335385
People will never be able to disassociate his face from Supernatural. Besides, I don't think his likeness ever passed a 'Bruce Wayne' vibe.

>>149335014
had nothing to do with the DCEU, just the fact that it was female capeshit that wasn't one of the worst movies of all time for a change

>>149336775
promptly rectified by WW84

>>149335148
>Yes, it was quite a stupid scene. You're telling me metahumans have existed since the begining of America and they're just now taking action against them?
It's implied in the film that metahumans are tolerated because they either mostly keep to themselves or are celebrated for being heroes because they save people and cities from other metas or monsters, Superman was a big deal because he was a superhero who directly influenced a major geopolitical conflict on his own accord which even the Justice Gang were initially reluctant to do.

WHERE WAS IT?!

>No Super Cafe scene.
I guess that guy won't be eating his shoes...

>>149323086 (OP)
I finished watching it this evening and I think it genuinely gave me new optimism for life as a whole.

The dialogue was truth be told a bit corny at times, but that's par for the course (and I'd rather have that desu). One thing I really liked was the pacing. It legit felt like a comic book, cutting from one location to another in the blink of an eye. Might just be me though.

The fights were absolutely incredible btw, and watching it in IMAX felt like I was physically in the fray being tossed around.. I could write a lot more but I don't wanna turn this into a novel, and there's plenty of other anons who share my sentiments.

>>149323432
Clark mentioned the JG fighting an "interdimensional imp" while he was reconciling with Lois. Probably ain't Mxy, but I like to think its a nice shoutout or a set-up for the future.

>>149335985
He steals the show too

>>149337068
>I finished watching it this evening and I think it genuinely gave me new optimism for life as a whole
It's just a capeshit movie. It's not that deep.

>>149336760
>People will never be able to disassociate his face from Supernatural
That's horseshit and only stupid people do that

>>149326871
>UUHH I'M SO WEIRD AND MY FAMILY HATES ME SO I MEET UP WITH OTHER WEIRDOS AND NOW WE'RE FAMILY
Sucide Squad
Peacemaker
GotG

Found family fetish
He just channeled that power and replaced weird with hopeful and made Superman.
And it was great.

>Movie spends 5 minutes explaining the message was real and translated correctly
>Terrific says it was legit
>Luthor says it was legit
>Engineer is the one that restores it and doesn't tamper with it
UHHHH GUYS IS THE MESSAGE REAL?????? MAYBE LUTHOR TAMPERED WITH IT

>Everyone on twitter hearing Track 7 of the OST thinking it was about Batman
>It's actually for the not-israel villain
What did gunn mean by this?

>>149336760
I don't know, a lot of people really liked him as Soldier Boy.

>>149337414
>thinking it was about Batman
Batman is not in the movie

>>149325759
That was such a good scene, I also liked the screech sound she makes.

Is anyone a young zoomer or alpha here? Did you watch the movie? Did you like it? Apparently the movie is tracking well with millennials and older zoomers, but the interest rapidly decline as the audience gets younger. The earnest and positive tone is perceived as genuine by millennials and it's the highpoint of the movie for them, but younger people see it performative and somewhat cringe. I found that interesting. Historically younger generations consume the media made by the previous generation, and while that is still mostly the case, there's a split between younger zoomers and millennials that hadn't really been seen before, and the reaction to this iteration of Superman may be particularly representative of that.

Why is Luthor so pathetic in this movie? Absolute humiliation of the character.

>>149337438
I'm not saying he can't do a good job.
But him being cast in The Boys was very clearly a marketing stunt by Amazon meant to invoke "hey guys, here's the guy you like from the thing you watched", made even more evident by them bringing the other Supernatural actors for the final season, or Aaron Paul to voice Powerplex in Invincible.

>>149323086 (OP)
I smiled so much throughout this movie, we actually might be back this time.

>>149336607
That's the current projection ceiling with the good word of mouth. Previously it was at around 115. Shawn is an outlier predicting like 135 millions, but most have it at around 110-120. Looks like it will definitely go past 100 though, which was a genuine fear a few days ago.

>>149325456
I can get behind her in more ways than one.

>>149331642
>and some genuinely great casting
I used to dislike Amy Adams as Lois, but as I've gotten older I've come to realize Superman needs a mommy gf to nurture his cock after a hard day of fighting crime. Incidentally I always found Lois an annoying proto-girl boss. So Snyder changing her into a mommy gf was the right call.

>>149323086 (OP)
Might watch it this weekend.

>>149323108
>it was extremely jarring watching Superman spend the entire Kaiju fight saving people
Like in a bad way? I think it was good, it's definitely something supes would focus on

>>149337068
>>149337322
I may be cynical, but this type of hyerbole really irks me.

As an inmigrante ilegal, I went to see this filme because James Gunn said it was an inmigrante historia, but Kryptonians are portrayed as a raza agresiva that wants to take over the world. What is this racista shit? Sorry for my bad Ingles. There are some words I don't know, so I had to usar spanglish.

>>149337703
I strongly recommend it if you like any of the really popular Superman trades

So how do we feel about The Justice Gang carrying everything in the end?

>>149323185
>>149323212
Tbh I don't find as outright evil but more like a way to ensure Earth doesn't fuck itself up like Krypton did. It really is mor3 ambiguous that way l.

>>149333951
Hawkgirl of murder.

>>149337940
Superman isn't afraid to ask for help from his friends

>>149334019
It's basically Bizarro in all but name

>>149323327
This. Without Mercy it just doesn't feel the same, would've made for the perfect Team Luthor.

>>149337322
Go away Anno.

Does Lex get his lexosuit or is that just toy merch?

>>149337721
It's inconsistent that he tortured Non-Netanyahu (I think it would be more in character to force him in the frontlines if he wanted a war) and then killed Ultraman though.

>>149323086 (OP)
>It begins

What is Clark/Superman's personality like?

>>149323086 (OP)
no more outrage posting about a movie that didnt come out yet? wow Im sorry agitprop bros....

>>149323108
>it was extremely jarring watching Superman spend the entire Kaiju fight saving people
It probably is jarring given how forced edgy Superman is in media.

Lex only caring about the Arbiter was cute, but I don’t know what he was thinking dating that blonde cunt instead of her badass metal chick when her constant selfies and idiotic behaviour make her a menace to his plans. I know he has an ego and believes he’s too good to be foiled like that, but he’s also supposed to be smart. And a liability like her is pretty weird in his grand plans.
>let me take this dumb cunt to the invasion of my greatest nemesis base. Surely nothing bad will come off this. I am the worlds smartest man.

>>149338141
Perhaps it wasn't just feeling superior to her, but her loyalty. At least until Jimmy showed up. More reason to introduce Mercy later

>>149333810
Lex would figure out a way to control Homelander, and if Homelander steps out of line then Luthor would find a way to kill him because he's Lex Luthor, the greatest criminal mind of all time. Better yet, Luthor could use Homelander as an example of the kind of danger Supes can become if he went rogue.

I think it's funny that Jor-El being evil or looking like from a race of invaders is becoming a recurring thing because back in the New 52 some people used to say they would never make Superman's parents "evil" like they did with Wonder Woman's Amazons.
Kind of the same with them making Thomas Wayne a questionable guy too.

>>149337592
While the later of what you said is true, I honest to god did not recognize him as Soldier Boy and I watched ALL of fucking Supernatural. I think he got the role cause hes honestly a decent actor, probably easy to work with cause of all the trash Ive seen him in outside of Supernatural he still tries.
Plus come on anon your acting like Robert Pattison's casting in that last Batman wasnt a fucking stunt to, half of the audience who went to see that movie were fujos who still cling on to those Twilight days

>>149336302
Its officially out Friday, dont be surprised however if the limited release gets big numbers.

Why do right wingers seethe over Superman being an immigrant, which was always an integral theme to his story?
https://youtu.be/IGeOrnC4EqY?feature=shared

>>149338410
It's just culture war outrage faggotry so they can make a quick buck

>>149337940
>Guy Gardner canonically supports Palestine

>>149338318
My adventures with superman I think had a more nuanced take where they were conquerors, but Jor El realized last minute that they were wrong. So while he and his people were all assholes, he and his wife had a level of sympathy of leaving behind traces of help towards their son. Meaning that at least in the end they decided to be good. His AI also dies saving him, deciding he should live for himself and giving him love advice.

>>149338318
>>149338506
Kryptonians being assholes is older than New 52. I haven't seen the movie yet, but I assume Jor-El's message was more cold scientist saying "They're a primitive race, but you'll set them straight once you take over, don't make our mistakes" right?

>>149338410
Cause Trump is imploding all of the narratives they had about all their political opinions down the toilet and need to talk about something else to distract from that

>>149338018
His Raptors are basically the mass produced version of that, his only role is that of a master planner.

>>149338410
>Why do right wingers seethe over Superman being an immigrant, which was always an integral theme to his story?
Literally no one gives a fuck. It's just grifters trying to make you shill their videos, and it's working.

>>149338410
Everyone making comic book movies a societal and political argument is stupid. Even with this movie talking about international wars, they still boil it down to LEX BAD, meaning it clearly doesn't want to make this super deep message. But everyone else wants to make it about that.

>>149338039
Ultraman was kind of a less sentient being, a lab made walking husk. So that gets a pass.

>>149337068
No one talks this way, shill-kun. You've fed chatgpt a bad prompt.

>>149338090
It's a decent man who rediscover his own humanity

So Ultraman is coming back as Bizarro, right?

>>149338603
True

Trump is pissing in their mouths and instead of facing that reality, they are going back to pissing their diapers about movies

>>149337721
No, in a good way. It was just funny after having seen how he's depicted in Man of Steel. Like if you went from watching Batman & Robin to The Batman back to back.

>>149338410
>theme
Wrong

>>149338711
>He fell for the marketing ploy
No wonder the corporations have all of you fuckers by the balls.

>>149323108
Fucker loses to himself
Fucker only beats himself by coincidence
Fucker just randomly surpasses his literally stronger clone when he is never shown to be more skilled than him and only beats him thru sheer bus of a chance
Fucker just ignores having his lungs filled with metal and coveref entirely despite being stated to need oxygen
Fucker doesn't train and just like in the comics, suns his health back.

Fucker will never lose a battle nor be more than the invincible mary sue people dont buy the comics of.

>>149338090
He's a hopeful trusty goofball
Which is hecking wholesome chungus until you remeber he's a 30 year old that gets mad at twitter hashtags and cannot see how meddling in the israel-iran conflict would be seen as something reckless

>>149337940
>>149338489
>Superman's not here kid, but you got the upgrade
kino

>>149338776
he lost to Luthor controlling himself, which makes sense. Luthor is a lot smarter than Superman.
>randomly surpasses his clone
..did you watch the movie? He beats him by disabling Luthor's ability to communicate with him, so Luthor can't coach him on what moves to use.

>>149338776
Ultraman beat him because Luthor was telling him how to win
He beat Ultraman because Luthor stopped telling Ultraman how to win
The bus is irrelevant, he dislocated his arm to seize the opportunity but he would have won anyway

>>149338811
i'm not sure why people say it's Israel/Iran or Palestine. It's not really anything like those conflicts. If it has any real world analog it would be most comparable to Russia and Ukraine.

>>149325456
I wish they had chosen McKenna over her.

>>149338851
The countries don't matter, it could be sandniggers it could be snowniggers, the point is Superman just fucking flew into the capital, kidnapped the leader of a country, threatened him and then went back to Metropolis
And again, le hecking wholesome chungus "people were dying I had to do something" is right in protecting people but this is a 30 year old that should understand geopolitics and should at the very least feel regretful after The Hammer of Fuckwherekhistan just beat you up for the first time in your life and told everyone how much of a meddling retard you are.

Pa being alive means we're getting that All-Star scene in the sequel.

>>149338894
wow superman is based?

>>149338838
he surpasses him despite being weaker and there is no statement thar luthorless ultra was any more skilled

>>149338911
He'd be based if he had the balls to solve the conflict, jumping in, yelling STOOOOOOP FIGHTING and then flying back just for Netanyahu to invade again is stupid.

>>149338913
i think they figured you'd be smart enough to realize that he's winning by getting his moves coached to him and without that he loses given that Luthor states he's a total retard without someone telling him what to do.

>>149338913
>he surpasses him despite being weaker
That's literally Luthor does, Anon.
Supes is smarter than Bizarro
Luthor is smarter than Supes
Luthor + Bizarro beats Supes
Luthor - Bizzarro gets beat up

>>149338939
Why would ultraman being a retard mean he is less skilled than supes?
We dont see him train or be skilled aside of just brawling

This movie would be over in 5 minutes if Superman had super hearing.
Where is his super hearing?

>>149338958
that was not bizarro
and ultra was stronger than supes

>>149338964
because he's barely sentient and seemingly has no thoughts beyond what luthor tells him to do

>>149338894
It wasn't a complex geopolitical conflict though, in the context of the film Bolivia just invaded not!Palestine and the US was letting it slide because the former was an ally, then it's revealed near the end that the whole conflict was artiifical because it was just part of Lex's larger scheme to kill Superman

>>149338964
It's a retard going up against someone with normal intellect and skill, retard. Doesn't take a genius to know who'd have the upper hand.

>>149338991
He still went after notIsrael, threatened notNetanyahu and then notIsrael's Iron Man came to his home city to personally beat him up and call him a faggot. I know Superman's entire strategy in the movie is to own up his choices and just power through all the consequences and continue to do the right thing but having some goddamn foresight as a 30 year old is not an insane demand or anything.
He doesn't even grow out of that mentality by the end either, he knows he's a dumbass protecting people and won't do anything to change it, all he did was call his friends to protect notPalestine while he saved the world, friends that were already his friends before the movie started.

>>149339059
It's just DCAU Superman all over again, specifically in the Cadmus arc. Waller and various characters constantly question Superman over his intentions and the implications of forming a superhero army with a space station that has a huge laser pointed out at Earth and his only argument and defense was that he would never turn on anyone and they just have to trust him on this. Then it's revealed Lex Luthor was behind the conflict and Supes is validated.

>>149338679
>he comes back all broken and fucked up
>"this is really bizarre, oh"
>"bizarro... me think me not dislike that name..."

>>149338410
They hate seeing bad things they support being portrayed as bad, simple as.
>>149338427
>>149338650
Also this

>>149338410
>why do literally all *RIGHT WINGERS* seethe about thing
>posts video of Grifter Mcfuckface Ben Shapiro, Mr "facts and logic"
Literally who the fuck cares. If anything bringing this up in a thread about general discussion of the film feels like more of an attempt to incite the culture war than anything else. As for those on the right who do care and aren't just the usual grifter feeding off of "current thing", they were probably baited into it due to Gunn making a tweet about Superman being an immigrant in a way that was meant to criticize ICE.

But do you condemn Superman?

>>149338973
It's used when convenient

Supes's parents are still evil conquerors and the public is now super forgiving for some reason as if that did get debunked

>>149335630
great explanation, I feel the same way about the OST. you can definitely do a serious Superman film that's still about hope and kindness instead of doubling down on Silver Age comic book wackiness but Man of Steel was not that

>>149338661
He was self aware enough to understand that Eve was betraying Luthor. Superman didn't try to give him a 2nd chance before snapping his wrist and then throwing him into a blackhole

>>149338521
>That thing you liked was always woke revisionism

>>149339464
Tbf being kind and helping others is pretty woke

>>149337389
calling everything a "fetish" should be a crime, you fucking weirdos

>>149338141
the actress for the Engineer said she definitely envisioned her and Lex hooking up once or twice, and that Eve is around largely just for show

What did Peacemaker look like? Is he the DCEU design or the one from the end of the Season 2 trailer?

>>149338318
the Waynes being questionable was always something writers were too cowardly to tackle until recently. I like to believe they were still good people and not exactly moustache-twirling evil, but you don't get to be billionaires without doing some sort of unlawful thing. I think it also helps if the Wayne family has been a cornerstone of Gotham economy for decades, since that means Bruce's parents largely inherited the wealth and didn't have a significant part in exploiting the poor, similar to how Bruce inherited it all while being oblivious

>>149339552
The actors have been making up some pretty wild headcanons for their characters in the film, like Perry White's actor stated that Perry holds a grudge against Luthor because he had an affair with his wife.

None of this is indicated in the movie itself.

>>149337389
yeah but superman's "found family" are the two people who raised him since he was an infant and whom he calls "Ma and Pa" . Like unless you consider adopted kids to be in a found family situation it's not really that.

>>149323086 (OP)
Why the hell couldn't they have used this shade of blue for the suit?

>>149339575
The way The Batman tackled it was pretty weird though, like Thomas did still ask Carmine to kill the Hush reporter. Just because he did it to protect Martha and regretted it afterwards doesn't change the fact that he still orchestrated a murder and Bruce shouldn't suddenly just be okay with that.

>>149339592
I was talking about the Justice Gang, Anon.

How bad is the bloated cast?

>>149338894
trying too hard there pablo

>>149339616
Personally I didn't find it bad at all. Still very much felt like a Superman movie and never felt like Superman was overshadowed. The JG members got their cool moments but didn't take up much time. Best I can compare it to is like how Colossus and Negasonic Teenage Warhead are in Deadpool. But I've seen other people complain about it so maybe that's just me.

>>149339575
The Waynes being friends with the mafia is a way to argue against
>Why doesn't batman just pay to make the city better?
>well the waynes gave the city a shitton of money and when they died everyone stole it

The WB shilljeets are out un full force, I see.

>>149339635
>anyone who likes popular movie I don't like is a shill
when did this thought process become omnipresent on this site

>>149339464
>I was stupid to not realize thing I liked was always woke? no, it must be everyone else lying to me!

>>149339654
How would you feel if you did not have breakfast this morning?

>>149339577
the Perry thing sounds retarded, but I definitely got the sense of Engineer and Lex having uhh, the same vibes as each other and they definitely had a sort of FWB thing except as coworkers

>>149339667
Nanitejobs for days.

>>149339604
that's true, and along with >>149338506 I wonder if "oh they were almost evil, but had a change of heart last-minute" is gonna be a recurring thing now. reminds me of that Family Guy gag about Osama accepting Jesus as his savior right before being gunned down

Tell me guys. Is the "Kryptonians are conquerers" a thing in this film too?

>>149339683
Jor-El calls the people of earth stupid and easy to rule, he tells Clark to get as many women as possible and spread his genes.

>>149339683
Jor-El says that Superman should conquer the simple humans and BREED their women but it's not really clear if it's all Kryptonians or just Jor-El. He seems to be on good terms with Supergirl.

>>149339616
>>149339629
The movie is probably the best example of how to establish a shared universe right off the bat, Superman exists in a world where superheroes and villains have been around for three centuries and there are references to that (people casually mentioning aliens and other planets, the GL corps) but the story is hyper focused on Superman and Metropolis.

>>149339647
You're clearly using marketing bullet points, Pavinder.

>>149339690
kirkman wins again baby

this nigga really got a good redemption after how dirty they did him in First Class

>>149339647
the site has been slowly rotting away for more than a decade now, this sort of bullshit was always present but once the intelligent people moved on we're left with these shitters

why did jor el say he should breed the humans when supergirl is right there

why didnt supergirl conquer and enslave male humans for her harem then?

>>149338410
>Vaush video about Ben Shapiro
Might be the shittiest post on this board.

>>149339721
Cousin marriage is illegal in Krypton.

Also it's a hologram message, Jor-El didn't know Supergirl would be there.

>>149339721
>why didnt supergirl conquer and enslave male humans for her harem then?
She's went to red sun planets to break her hymen, then came back to wring all of the cum out of earth's men.

>>149339721
>why didnt supergirl conquer and enslave male humans for her harem then?
She prefers aliens

>>149339464
>woke revisionism
Chuds will come up with anything to avoid treating others with decency

The Engineer was cute when her hair was all spiky.
I'm glad she survived.

is it true that super girl have a black boyfriend?????????????

>>149339765
mogged by drunk supermonke

>>149339775
in maws yes

and its such a fucking waste

>>149339776
Give her a wifi extender and it's over for Superman.

>>149339721
Superman breeding multiple human women is more efficient than Supergirl being bred once at a time

>>149339793
but thise would be full kriptonian offspring

anywho jor el could have softened up his message a bit. it is also weird the ppl instanrltly forgave superman like that when tje message was not debunked or stated to be false

Engineer needed that helmet, silver skin, and some other details. She was a bit off-putting whenever there's a close up shot of her. Her hips were nice though.

>>149339821
surprised that gunn the horny mess didnt add a scene where random women instanrly threw themselves at supes out of fear or legit thirst

>>149337693
nah she was an abysmal miscast. Amy Adams is a good actress but she's nothing like Lois and even the script didn't help her, Snyder wrote her extremely weirdly and it's a joke that her and Clark are even dating by the second movie

It feels more like James Gunn only read The Boys and Invencible and used DC characters instead, the main villain is even Black Noir.

>>149339956
He kinda took bizzarro and named him ultraman too

he 100% got kirkman'd with the kriptonians tho there is no mistaking that

>>149339571
It was his season 1 costume

>>149340002
kinda implied dceu pm killed dcu pm

>>149339956
do you guys even hear yourself sometimes?

Am i the only one really surprised about the importance of mr terrific and methamorpho in the movie? Don't get me wrong, he's really cool, but I actually thought guy Gardner was gonna be the one stealing scenes

It was so cool too the silver age explanation about how superman glasses have the hypnotic ability to change his appearance when he's Clark Kent too, got me a smile on me.

>>149339956
You talk like someone who knows about comics but doesn't read them

>>149340133
I don't know if the hypno glasses are actually real, I thought Guy just mocks them as a theory

Superbros we are so fucking back

>>149323086 (OP)
>>149340764
More liek Superkino, amirite?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FllZDPpq1aw

>>149340133
>Guy Gardner

Why did you think he will be used for anything other than comic relief? He was only included that Gunn can toss some money to one of his buddies

SEXOOOOOOOOO

What's Lex motivation in the movie?