Thread 149337474

Why was she bad for Peter exactly?

>>149337474 (OP)
Used goods
Canonically raped
Slept around with half of NYC
Queer

>>149337494
How this different from his other love interests?

>>149337474 (OP)
They originally broke up because she was completely amoral. No real grasp of good or evil, just her own self-interest, and couldn't even understand that that was a problem. People tend to forget that Felicia was fucking nuts.

>>149337474 (OP)
ALPHA WOMEN ON TOP
>>149337578
kek

>>149337654
>People tend to forget that Felicia was fucking nuts.
Yeah but she hot though.

>>149337474 (OP)
actually Felicia is the best for Peter and Spider-man, and nobody else comes even close.

>>149337654
got to keep her busy with pregnancy

>>149338870
this

80s black cat sure, she's just fling worthy

but post-80s/character growth felicia, she's the only one who could ever defender herself as a civilian

honestly throuple with MJ is the best scenario

>>149337494
Points 2 and 4 didn't happen until after he was married to another woman by publication order.

>>149337474 (OP)
It's the other way around

>>149337474 (OP)
Peter wanted to make her an honest woman and that scared her. They've broken up plenty of times for similar reasons but it's always the same. Felicia isn't ready for a serious relationship like how Peter wants. And whenever she tries it doesn't work out.

>>149338993
>she's the only one who could ever defender herself as a civilian
kek Cat's been damsel in distress more times than mj

>>149337474 (OP)
Don't listen to the haters.
Felicia is the only equal partner for Peter with and without costume.
And their bond has only grown stronger the last two decades.

>>149337474 (OP)
that's nonsense, she's his best love interest

>>149337474 (OP)
Because MJ was canonically intended endgame from ASM # 15 onwards

>>149337654
People forget cause she's not a stagnant character

>>149337474 (OP)
I know Peter being an everyman is the meme we all hate, but at the end of the day Peter does want to settle down and start a family like a regular guy, and Felicia has never shown any interest in that.
Mary Jane at least received quite a lot of character development that pointed her in that direction. The totality of Felicia's development was making it so that she isn't an insane cunt.

>>149337474 (OP)
depends on whether she's written like 60s Catwoman or modern-day Catwoman

>>149337474 (OP)
She was so bad for the cool Spider-man persona. Didn't care about the P.P.

>>149340654
actually Selina is just a cheap copy of Felicia

>>149340571
nah all she has done is prove Peter deserves better

>>149340571
Not really. Stan Lee himself pushed for Gwen, but MJ was just so popular and Conway didn't care for Gwen.

>>149337474 (OP)
ass too fat

>>149341113
Lee is the reason mj and peter got married in the first place

repost to make Gwenpedos and Feliciakeks mad

>>149337474 (OP)
Only the most ignorant "fans" would say something like that.

>>149341159
Yes, way after Gwen died.

>>149341319
Lee had a perfect way out to revive gwen stacy ship with his newspaper strip, he chose mj instead. Nothing really complicated here

>>149338993
>honestly throuple with MJ is the best scenario
considering they're fine with that for Felicia and Shay, it being Fel and MJ is a no-brainer.
throw Felicia on some Avenger team and have her work towards redeeming the alter-ego and work out her trauma or stick to being the thief but lean more towards white hat operations

Spider-Man is a family man. Haremshit and other degeneracy does not belong near him

>>149341342
non-canon

>>149341326
That doesn't mean he always meant to. People's opinion change over time.
David Micheline is a prime example of this :
>You are also the author responsible for the marriage between Peter and Mary Jane, a story that is still epochal as it is controversial, both for its genesis and for the aftermath it has left. What do you remember about the process and the idea that led to that decision?
>Within days of accepting the writing assignment on Amazing Spider-Man, I was told that Stan Lee was going to get Peter and Mary Jane married in the newspaper comic strip–and that Marvel was going to follow suit in the comics. I hated it. I wanted to write the same character I had loved when I was a teenager: a young single guy with problems and courage, not an old married man. But Marvel was determined to get Peter and MJ married, so I decided to make the best of it and create a succesful married life for the couple, something that readers probably wouldn’t expect. And I surprised myself by having a great time writing Mr. & Mrs. Spider-Man!

>>149337494
MJ was a gogo dancer, a model and an actress. She's seen miles and miles of dick before Peter.

>>149341379
>Wanted him to be single his whole life
I plain don't get it. No other aspirations for the character? Nothing in his life beyond the mission?
At least he seemed happy with what he did.

>>149341342
Yeah Peter is pretty vanilla and traditional when it comes to romance. He did try to settle down with Felicia but she wasn't having that. And by the time she realized she did he was with MJ.

>>149342330
That's because its the version he knew, and people are naturally adverse to change

>>149343181
Still can't wrap my head around it. My first foray into comics was through the old Fox cartoons then years later reading from the beginning.
Growing up, getting married and having kids just seems like such a natural progression for him or any character, really. Figure at that point he trains his kids and the next generation of heroes and slowly fades into the background as they take over. Spin him off into another book like the old 'Peter Parker: Spider-Man' and have his son or daughter carry the main title. Maybe split between both.

>>149337474 (OP)
You can safely blacklist any idiot that says such a thing

>>149343550
you can already see that in mc2, albeit without the split title idea

>>149343550
>Figure at that point he trains his kids and the next generation of heroes a
Hell nah, I hate this. Sounds cringe and unmarvel like.

>>149344590
>Sounds cringe and unmarvel like.
There are like 3 different academies for training the younger generation.

>>149343550
>Still can't wrap my head around it.
Comics like their status quo. You can see there the old guard like Stan Lee tried to move things forward by having Peter marry MJ, but new blood writers didn't like it because they like Peter being a down on his luck everyman. So Peter can't be married, Aunt May isn't allowed to die while Peter deals with that, Peter can't have a stable income, and so on. Essentially Peter B. Parker represents everything they don't want Peter to do.

>>149344101
god MC2 Spider-Girl was perfect, it was the main Marvel universe for me

>>149344691
Who said I liked those things?

>>149337474 (OP)
That's stupid. Felicia is the only one that can share his struggles as Peter and as Spider-Man.

Peter/MJ is like Supes/Lois. It's such a natural pairing that you don't even need to argue it. The most unpopular Spidey story to this day was dedicated to arguing against it.

Peter/Felicia is a ship that is perpetually something you need to debate, which makes it inherently less natural. All she is is a virtue test that reaffirms how much Peter is devoted to MJ. Believing otherwise is just cope.

MJ and Felicia can't be topped for love interest
Each great in their own way

>>149345184
>>149345405
Peter x Felicia is the one with most ups and downs, and that's why it's the GOAT.

The most interesting part about Spider-man and Black Cat is that there is a lingering feeling that their relationship will always fail.

>>149345914
i'd say its because of status quo keeping her firmly locked into a place where she keeps the bed warm until MJ is back so you're never going to get any real development out of her despite how fun they can be together

>>149346073
Tbh, she was introduced as this amoral thief which obviously clash with Peter's moral compass.
Like, she just teamed up with Kang for a chance to collaborate with her father

>>149345008
that was cute

>>149337474 (OP)
You can tell whoever says those things hasn't read a single Spidey comics since around 2000

>>149347680
at this point with his books that's kind of a blessing

>>149337474 (OP)
A long time ago there was a subplot about how she loves Spider-Man more than the man behind that mask

>>149348137
>Comic book for ants

>>149346073
They just never work as a couple long term. They're simply friends with benefits and I think that's fine. Felicia and Peter can say they love each other and think of marrying in the future but it'll never happen because reality sets in and one of them breaks it off, usually Felicia.

>>149337474 (OP)
Felicia wants Spiderman, not Peter.

>>149348597
My brother in christ that has been hashed out for several years now

There was a small sliver of time when she would have been good for Pete, but he was already married to MJ.
Nowadays it's because she will never be allowed to stop being a thief and go full hero. Black Cat must always be Marvel's Catwoman. Plus they need her for the pride issues.

>>149348115
not really, that just makes the opinion op heard an ignorant one.

>>149348597
Boomer or Alzheimer?

>>149337474 (OP)
She's a whore, maybe not as bad as MJ but Peter deserves better

>>149337474 (OP)
only the marywh0reFagz say that