Thread 149341087

Why did he do it?

>>149341087 (OP)
Puling a pre-Mr Beast and doing the exact literal facial expression in literally every picture ever taken of him? No idea.

>>149341087 (OP)
Blame the herb and him becoming an absolute cuck to appease his woke daughter

>>149341264
Fucking faggot

I hate how this show sucking dick over shadowed the CG show actually being above average.

>>149341264
When's he grafting that vagina in his chest so I can fuck it?

>>149341087 (OP)
hadn't seen he-man in ages and the only thing he remembered was teela got sidelined so he wanted to go out of his way to centered the story around her

>>149341087 (OP)
He legitimately thought he was making something good and that fans would love it. The negative backlash geniunely caught him off gaurd. Killing He-man and Skelator and focusing on Teela was 100% his idea though. To him this was a mature and subversive decision that he thought fans would love because unlike the original it was treating the characters like real people and dealing with real consequences and it finally becoming a real show you can dig your teeth into. He didn't realize people just wanted to relive their childhood and watch muscular dudes beat the shit out of each other with more gore and violence added at most

>>149341306
No. He actually said he thought the show was stupid baby shit when it came out, he was a teenager when it came it out so he was not in the target demo, and he never actually properly watched it untill he was he was approached to do the show.

>>149341371
What a room temp IQ take. People wanted to watch the main characters engage in those mature and real consequences, not a tired girlboss that shit all over the characters people had loved growing up.

It would be like making the king of the hill relaunch entirely about Luanne, and killing Hank in the first episode, then wondering why the original fans think it was shit.

>>149341087 (OP)
retard made everyone think it was lesbian girlboss shit when it was actually straight girlboss shit

>>149341371
>he thought the show was stupid baby shit when it came out
He's right, the 80s one was a bunch of corny slapstick with zero action and continuity. The early 2000 reboot was the same. Anime was 10000x better than any Heman show.

His adaptation was an improvement, but unfortunately the fans whined about it.

>>149341151
what a disgusting fucking teela

>>149342205
Shut the fuck up and kys tranny

>>149342205
I fucking swear these are bot posts. I always see these exact posts in other topics about shitty cartoons.

>>149342287
If you wanted He-Man see Berserk, Escaflowne (film), or Ninja Scroll. The original He-Man sucked because no one killed each other and they weren't injured at all. It was just goofy formulaic shit

>>149342350
Kys trannyfaggot

>>149341087 (OP)
He mistakenly believed it'd be enough to simply make a good show.

>>149342205
>His adaptation was an improvement
Guess Kevin is still paying his shills to this day. Fuck off and die.

>>149341087 (OP)
>Why did he piss off a bunch of terminally online 50-year-olds who won't accept that He-Man is seen as campy faggot schlock by everybody younger than them?
I dunno, OP.

>>149343145
Projecting fag

>>149341087 (OP)
>Kevin Smith.
I'm mad that the writers completely disregarded episodes like https://youtu.be/ZvFVodMkU8M
Like come on Kevin, Queen Marlena knew Adam was He-Man and you couldn't even be bothered to do research? What did you just watch the first 3 episodes and went "yep that's enough material for a reboot"

Even someone as me who doesn't like Filmation knew that.

>>149341151
Has that 'when soldiers die, the real victims are the women they leave behind' energy

>>149341087 (OP)
Money

I can't hate Kevin Smith even if pretty much everything he's made after Clerks 2 has been garbage. Seems like a genuinely nice guy, and not in a fake way. Someone who would be fun to hang out with and talk about comics and stuff. Plus everything he made in the 90s was good, so I give him a pass.

>>149343290
He tried to pick a fight with ClownfishTV for clout. 2 grifters fighting.

>>149341272
Netflix shouldered a lot of the blame there. They didn't even bother giving the CG show its own subtitle to differentiate itself so it would get overshadowed in every search engine imaginable.

>>149343317
The CGI one was fantastic. It reminded me of a 2000s action show.

>>149341371
>it was treating the characters like real people and dealing with real consequences
Didn't need to kill the main character to do that.

>>149343336
It was an it's a damn shame it got overshadowed so hard. It had a lot of great takes on these characters.

Why didn't they give Teela a cool motif or colorful battle armor if they wanted her in the front? She just looks like a random boot camp grunt in this, totally lost among the noise of the colorful, strongly themed residents of Eternia.
You don't even have to make her attractive. Just make her stand out.

>>149343336
Making Battlecat into mentor character was such a cool move. Best Teela too.

>>149342205
>Anime was 10000x better than any Heman show.
BA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

>>149343220
>Oh no boss, you aren't too thin. If anything I'd say you look a little fat

>The first one didn't count. It was only practice

>>149341087 (OP)
It's no different from everything else he has made since 2017 or so.

The man has totally 100% lost his edge and became a social media addicted schizo that only makes politically correct, perfectly safe, slop. The man now writes only safe and correct Twitter talking points into movies and they are fucking awful. He made a Jay and Silent Bob remake that stars waaaaay less hot girls (with a hijab muslim friend) on an adventure. He made a Clerks 3 with no real jokes at all, just Dante being more miserable and dying.

It's all strong women and bad white men in everything now.

>>149341371
I never understood why any writer loves to do this same old
>Let's depower and sideline the heroes and turn the whole story into a normal guy struggling and then we only see the fun hero shit in the final piece of the final act!

Fuck that shit, I'm on board to see over the top action with a guy that punches meteors back into space. I want 100% that, not 5 minutes of it in the last episode.

https://youtu.be/KbjsrKsRAfQ?t=6083
>I can't touch Marvel or Star Wars, so I'll ruin MOTU
>I think i could be incredibly reverent while like taking the story forward and stuff

https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/he-man-masters-of-the-universe-revelation-kevin-smith-netflix-1235026831/

>Smith had authored comic book runs of Marvel’s “Daredevil” and DC’s “Green Arrow” in the late 1990s and early 2000s that David greatly admired for their fealty to the subject matter, with none of Smith’s signature dick and fart jokes.

>David and Biaselli wanted Smith to do the same with “He-Man”: Take the show from the 1980s and continue that story with those characters, only now for an adult audience. Finally, He-Man and Skeletor could really do battle, and one — or both! — could get stabbed.

>Smith loved the idea.

>“[Biaselli’s] like, ‘I yearn to watch the show I thought I was watching in childhood. That’s what I’m looking for here, the same show, but people can die. Can you do that?'” Smith said. “And I was like, ‘That’s the only thing I can do.’”

>“Honestly, if it had been anything else outside of that — if they were like, ‘We want you to reinvent this for the modern age’ — that would have scared me off creatively, because I’m not that inventive,” Smith continued. “And also, because I know what a fan base reacts like when they don’t get the thing they grew up watching. You think I’m gonna be the fall guy for that? If I’m involved in a thing, it’s going to be true to what it is. It’s gonna be true to the franchise.”

>>149341371
>treating the characters like real people and dealing with real consequences
...which is not something a single MOTU fan has ever wanted or asked for in 40+ years, or ever will ask for...

>>149341087 (OP)
The problem was hiring him in the first place.

I can see how it happened too, it's pretty clear. Hollywood execs see this franchise as something that really attracts geeky nerd types. So they thought they were striking gold by hiring the geeky nerd director to helm it. While never ever paying any attention to the fact that Silent Bob has never once written or had a single thing to do with high concept fantasy or action. They just connected nerd director to nerd franchise, and he was 100% incompatible with it and would only ever fuck it up.

>>149343800
A big part is this. They needed 2003 Smith to try it, but what they got was 2019 Smith. The post heart attack, post Twitter addiction, post doing everything he can to apologize and downplay his early work and public persona for being the evil chud director that said the bad words too much.

>>149343819
Fundamentally it's a variation of the Surf Dracula problem.

>>149341087 (OP)
He was just grifting, from how he talked that's 100% clear, it was definitely some kind of money fuckery scheme. Or maybe unironically a psy op of some kind like /x/ and /pol/ rant about to demoralize people.

>>149341151
To be fair, the show seemed to be on Adam's side regarding that point (i.e. Adam died a hero and Teela is acting like a stupid selfish asshole). But then, one scene acknowledging that your main character is a stupid selfish asshole doesn't make watching her be a stupid selfish asshole for the rest of the show any less insufferable.

>>149343910
It's mostly how 80s movies played out, but that was also a budget thing. They just did not hve the budget to have a guy in costume doing cool stunts and ripping apart monster all movie, they could only afford maybe 15 minutes of that. So it was saved for the final act.


....but this is a goddamn cartoon, and they hired a guy who is all about 80s movies to make it. And he made an 80s action flick that only has the cool guy in costume doing cool shit in the final part of the final act. It's all he knows and what he does.

>Bury your new attempt to appeal to a younger audience of future life-time He-man fans to instead promote the miniseries designed to placate existing oldfags who were probably already buying product.
>PSYCHE! You got trailer raped! It's actually designed to troll oldfags!
>Now no one is watching either show and both toy lines are destined for bargain bins for the next decade.
Why are you companies so bad at selling toys?

>>149342363
Nostalgiafags having shit taste as per usual
>waah trannys
RENT FREE

>Lol, I'm such an epic troll. Those chuds are TOTALLY seething at my shitty post!
Dilate tranny

>>149341087 (OP)
Make a show? It's his job and they paid him. That's what a job is.

>>149344465
Kys namefag

>Had Blackcat raped in college.
>Made Batman piss himself.
Yeah let's give let's give this milksop He-Man.

>>149343310
As bad as Clownfish TV is now, at least they were right about Kevin Smith.

>>149345421
>now

>>149341272
I didn't know that even came out. I thought it was concept art that didn't get picked up or something.

>>149342314
All cartoons are terrible in comparison to anime, even the action cartoons aimed at men. Speed Racer was unironically 100000000000x better than any action cartoon because there were actual deaths.
>>149343407
still better than heman

>>149346811
Shut up weebtroon

>>149345456
Well, they did some entertainment value way back but they come off as bitter Disney Adults and know-it-alls that don't really know anything. Those AI thumbnails don't really help much either.

>>149342205
>adaptation was an improvement, but unfortunately the fans whined about it

Sure anon that mentality always prevails....

>>149346811
DCAU had deaths too though

>>149342205
>>149348129
>Our design was FLAWLESS! It was the customer that failed US!!!!

When the fuck has this excuse ever really worked? If a business does not meet customer expectations, they failed. If they make something the fans do not like, they failed.

>>149343819
>"Woah! Was that final fight pretty epic, dear viewer? We might get more of that action, but only if we get a second season" *wink wink*

>>149343852
This. Taking a look at his career.

>Two buddies working at a convenient store
>Two buddies who go to the mall
>Two buddies who try to convert a hot lesbian
>Two buddies take a train to a small church chasing Ben Affleck
>Two buddies go on a road trip to Hollywood
>Two buddies working at a McDonalds
>Two buddies are really shitty cops that fuck up a lot

Who in the fuck though this guy can write an epic scifi fantasy with wizards and mutants with swords? It's a clear situation of executives thought the dorky media guy that spends half his days talking about Star Wars and superheroes was the perfect candidate to helm their dorky media reboot for all the geeks. While he was not at all prepared to do the job in the first place since it's totally outside his wheelhouse.

>>149341087 (OP)
They believe that history is written by the winners thinking that they are the winning side.

>>149341151
genuinely baffling.

"Masters of the Universe" should be like a Dio song come to life...it should be pretty fuckin simple to parse what this setting is all about.

>>149341087 (OP)
Why did he do it?

>>149348600
Male Feminists are sneaky fuckers.

>>149343290
Have you even tried reading his social media posts you dumbfuck? Nice guy my ass.

i have no attachment to anything this guy made

The best thing he ever did was reading Swamp Thing on his podcast.

>>149341087 (OP)
He's always been a shitty hack. That's why.

>>149341087 (OP)
Mindbroken men feel the need to subvert and destroy their past in order to feel like they've actually become a different, supposedly "better" person than they were before. Also, being a malnourished vegans makes people fucking crazy

>>149341371
>he thought he was doing something cool and mature
>by being subversive and deceptive
Yeah there's a reason this didn't gel with audiences and it's because it's not mature or clever or cool: It's dickless writing by a creatively bankrupt faggot who thinks being surprising is the same thing as being good, because he refused to understand that surprises and subversion have to still be interesting to work. They are not inherently good on their own.

>>149348646
I have. Still seems like a nice dude.

>>149343336
I didn't love it, but it had enough interesting ideas of its own, along with a lot of changes to the basic formula to make it a genuinely interesting take on the He-Man concept. Kevin Smith's stillborn faux-anime bullshit killed any chance for it to get noticed.

>>149343820
It's very telling that the only thing on his mind, the sole motivator, his guiding mission statement when being offered to work on a fucking He-Man cartoon is
>FINALLY! THESE CHARACTERS CAN GET STABBED AND DIE!! I'VE ALWAYS WANTED THESE CHARACTERS TO DIE! I CAN'T WAIT TO HAVE THESE CHARACTERS GET STABBED SO THEY CAN DIE!!

What a fucking psychopath.

>>149343317
It's a double edged sword

Revelation drawing all the ire shielded it from discourse about Teela and Krass that it would not have deserved

However I think that because the show was good it would have weathered that just fine as opposed to Revelation, which was bad and thus had to take the usual stance of bad products in framing that all the hate is just from grifter tourists and not real fans

>>149348280
It's because he wrote a handful of capeshit comics also. Not even that many, and not even ones that fans remember or revere in any particular way. The people in charge of these sorts of decisions think nerdshit is all interchangeable, so a guy who likes comics and also has hollywood experience is sure-thing, great choice to work on some 80s nostalgia cartoon revival.

>>149348841
>all the hate is just from grifter tourists and not real fans
There it is.

>>149341272
>>149343336
>>149343355
>>149343385
we were robbed bros

>>149349065
It really sucks man. The show had some great stuff going on with it's Skeletor and Eternia and even paid homage to the original series with stuff. But Netflix really did it no favors by not advertising it and really screwed it by releasing it the next month after the other one. I'm at least glad the show we got was great but it's clear they had more ideas to play with.

>>149343220
Please, any drawfag has to draw Pop saying fuck Kevin Smith.

>>149341371
I don't see how killing off He-Man in the first episode makes the show "mature" or "realistic" or "genuinely consequential".....

>>149341087 (OP)
Do what?

>>149346811
>Speed Racer was unironically 100000000000x better than any action cartoon because there were actual deaths.