>Invincible
>crossovers everywhere
>Sonic the fucking Hedgehog is somehow normie shit now
DeviantArt has ruined popular culture.

>>149341453 (OP)
Arthurian Legend is British fanfiction of Welsh myths.

>>149341453 (OP)
I blame the X-men fanbase

I've never read fan fiction and I've never understood the appeal. If I want a bunch of non canon events to happen then I'll just drift off in to my own lala land. I never understood what compels a person to write fan fics.

>>149341453 (OP)
>Sonic the fucking Hedgehog is somehow normie shit now
My ass it is. Twitter isn't real life. It's still considered kiddy shit.

>>149341463
>I never understood what compels a person to write fan fics.
a writer that doesn't hate the material they're working on

>>149341463
You never wanted to share your lala land?

>>149341463
You're doing the same thing but too pussy to write it down.

>>149341504
THREE big budget Hollywood movies all raking in millions.

>>149341526
Fuck no. Keep that cringe garbage to your fucking self.

>>149341632
See you're confused about the wrong thing. If people wrote their fanfiction and no one ever cared or talked about it you wouldn't care. You're real issue is with people who want to read fanfiction as you don't seem to understand anyone else could find value in it.

>>149341637
>If people wrote their fanfiction and no one ever cared or talked about it you wouldn't care.
Actually yes, I would. Do not make fanfiction. Ever.
>B-but it's just for fu-ACK!
Ever.

>>149341459
It's French fanfiction of English retellings of Welsh stories about things that may or may not have happened in Cornwall.

>>149341724
I liked the Shocker fighting Zombies fanfic called Polarity, that was a really fun read which actually is fairly professionally done that's also an interesting time capsule since it was written before Superior Foes of Spider-man and other officially published issues that defined a lot of the characters since the fanfic came out.

>>149341749
You're a retarded teenager. Slit your wrists.

>>149341724
>>149341742
The very first fanfiction was a cave by some almost human ape about their day. All stories are fan fiction unless they are a historical account and even then those tend to be very AU.

>>149341796
a cave drawing*

>>149341796
That's not what fanfiction is, you actual retard.

>>149341794
you can tell that who wrote the fanfic actually was a genuine Marvel fan and reader due to having actual great bits of character deep cuts that fit the story plus it's tone, usage of previous issues or storylines factoring into the events of the fanfic with some continuity better kept track of then Marvel issues at the time and just genuinely being well paced, grammatically structured and written professionally.

>>149341453 (OP)
>>Invincible
?

Okay, cool, so /co/ just has zero respect for art. And you all have the fucking gall to constantly bitch that everything is shit now despite actively celebrating the death of originality.

People like fanfiction for the same reason people like fanart. It's that simple

>>149341872
I kinda like fanfiction, sure there's a bunch of it I don't like, lot that's very amateur or doesn't suit my tastes but it's fun to see other peoples passion for something and how they outlet it into writing. Plus it literally does no harm, getting worked up over any of them individually or just the fact of any existing would be supremely pathetic.

>>149341872
>And you all have the fucking gall to constantly bitch that everything is shit now
Yeah man that's why I'm reading fucking fanfiction. I've read harem slop that treats characters better than their books.

>>149341887
Fanart falls under fanfiction #RapeAllFanartists
>>149341459
Dragon Ball is just Japanese fanfiction of Journey to the West

>>149341838
Fanfiction is fiction a fan has written about something. Yes it is.

Get over yourself.

>>149341897
>treats characters better than their books
Quite sad actually

>>149341887
Because they're entitled twats who have less than no respect for art, and only engage with it to project their own bullshit onto it?

>>149341892
>I kinda like fanfiction
You are part of the problem.

>>149341897
>"I think everything is shit, so I'm reading something that's inherently shit."
Retard.

>>149341872
Anon, if the fanfic writer puts effort into it and expresses something it's art. OH FUCK YOU"RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS ABOUT AISLOP AREN"T YOU!

OP IS TRYING TO STRAWMAN AN ARGUMA\ENT FOR AISLOP DO NOT RESPIND
or do whatever have fun

>>149341962
you know, you can just just ignore fanfiction really easily right? No one is forcing you to be subjected to this really specific aversion but yourself.

>>149341973
>muh effort
Fanfiction is INHERENTLY shit. It is offensive, disrespectful trash by its very nature.

When the FUCK did 4chan get infested with DeviantArt kiddies? Go back and kill yourself.

>>149341962
Thoughts on Dragon Ball rehashing Journey to the West? Or is the acceptable cutoff point for creating fanfiction being hundreds of years from the publishing of the original work?
Warhammer 40K is also fanfiction of Nemesis the Warlock and I've noticed a lot of people fellate it on here

>>149341962
Nigger your on fucking /co/ our existence is a failure

>>149342003
Like 2005 stop pretending kid.

>>149342001
No, I can't. Because it's becoming the default type of media now. Some of the most popular shit out right now are just blatant ripoffs of other stuff. That is fucked up, and I refuse to pretend otherwise.

>>149341453 (OP)
Before you were born.

>>149342016
You haven't answered >>149342004

>>149342004
>Dragon Ball
TRASH.

>Tardhammer
Nazi TRASH.

Kill yourself.

>>149342016
you may as well stick to just reading or watching what you like cause sorry but everything is inspired, derived from something by that logic. I'm just confused now since this isn't even a fanfiction issue this is just an issue with media that is upfront on it's influence now?

While were talking fanfics anyone know some good batfamily rape fics?

>>149342023
Directly below you, retard. Now answer my question. When the fuck did this shit become okay?

I swear, it's like people actively reject the concept of originality. Nobody has any real ideas, and this is supposed to be okay somehow. Fuck that.

>>149342016
You are making the same argument some old greek guy made a couple thousand years ago. Your argument is fanfiction.

>>149342061
Calling 40K Nazi shit probably means you're a troon or leftoid or some sort, don't know what's worse

>>149342061
>you are a retard for not taking into account something I haven't done yet
Anon are yo on drugs

>>149342050
>muh inspiration
>muh influence
Make something ACTUALLY original, or don't make anything at all. Come up with your own fucking ideas for once instead of celebrating creative stagnation.

>>149342080
>just invent something that never happened before is that so hard

>>149342080
True, any ideas or methods on creating stuff without being an "inspired" hack? Guys like Toriyama have enjoyed undeserved praise for being just that

>>149342067
Again, not what fanfic is. Your desperate attempts to be funny to avoid having a discussion is pathetic.

>>149342078
How about you try waiting a minute, dipshit? One can only type so fast, you ADD cunt.

>>149342073
It IS nazi shit. Fuck off and die in a ditch.

>>149342095
>It IS nazi shit.
Elaborate on that, and on Dragon Ball too while you're at it. Why are they so shitty?

>>149342080
sure sounds simple enough, how about you have a go first with a pitch and i'll let you know if it's not been done or has any resemblance to anything.

>>149342080
Why don't you create something, Anon? You're not just a mindless consumer of the work of others, right? You can make something with an original idea, right, Anon?

>>149342073
Why are you falling for such low bait?

>>149342104
I'm expecting an "not my job, educate yourself" response considering this guy types like a troon/butthurt leftoid

>>149342085
>>just invent something that never happened before
YES. How about you try putting some fucking thought into things so that we don't have to sit through the exact same slop over and over.

>>149342088
Unironically, yes. Toriyama was a retarded hack whose career was entirely dependent on retarded teenagers with no standards.

>>149342117
>How about you try putting some fucking thought into things so that we don't have to sit through the exact same slop over and over.
And there it is, the bait for the AIslop argument

>>149342126
Has he done this before or something?

>>149342103
>Elaborate on that,
Fuck you mean 'elaborate'? LOOK AT IT.

>>149342104
>>149342110
>no u
I know I can't make anything, and I have the good sense to not make garbage anyway just for the sake of it.

>>149342131
I've just been here too long and enjoy the game too much. Reading it in the stars.

>>149342142
The only you can make is troon-tier whining on a dying board of a dying website.
>Fuck you mean 'elaborate'? LOOK AT IT.
Nothing about 40k's aesthetic stands out as "Nazi" to me, are you dodging the question?

>>149342142
>Uncreative, talentless slug melting down over other people's work not meeting his standards

>>149341453 (OP)
>Sonic the fucking Hedgehog is somehow normie shit now
It always was you dumbass

>>149342142
I mean you made this thread so you failed at not making garbage for the sake of it

>>149342158
>Nothing about 40k's aesthetic stands out as "Nazi" to me
That is a lie.

>>149342162
>having standards is bad now
You "people" deserve your garbage.

>>149342201
I'm trying to ask a question, but I can't get the answer cause I'm clearly asking a bunch of retards from DeviantArt. You're the ones making this thread trash by defending FANFICTION of all things. Fucking hell.

>>149342207
>That is a lie.
Any examples? You also haven't elaborated on why Dragon Ball is shit outside of making attacks on Toriyama's character and artistic integrity. Once again, avoiding the questions.

>>149342215
you mean the answer you are getting upsets you and doesn't just thoughtlessly agree with your viewpoint?

>>149342207
Please tell us of the original creators you worship so much.

>>149342207
Thoughts on Paul Verhoeven? His two most famous movies are arguably fanfiction (Robocop is based on Judge Dredd while the Starship Troopers movie is so far removed off the original book's story that it more or less qualifies

>>149342207
what do you actually like?

>>149341910
Kys tard

>>149342207
You wouldn't be able to meet your own standards. You're like an obese coalburner with 3 mixed kids from 3 different fathers demanding that she get a 6ft billionaire with bodybuilder's physique and a 9 inch dick

>>149341453 (OP)
The XCOM community is proped up almost entirely by fanfics at this point

If you're typing a response, OP, you can take your time. This isn't a race.

OP, you have three minutes to respond, otherwise you forfeit all your arguments and concede that fanfiction is the superior artform.

>>149342469
>concede that fanfiction is the superior artform.
OP is kind of retarded but I wouldn't go that far.

You should have seen the newest Gundam anime. It takes
>Official fanfiction
To a whole new level.

>>149341526
Hell no. That's my shit.

When you inevitably rehash this thread topic in the future, don't go full retard next time and decry the entire concept of being inspired by and building off of a pre-existing work.

>>149342556
Isn't that OPs entire argument?

>>149342556
This is really where OP dropped the ball. You could make some argument about respecting the art of others by not using it as a vehicle for your fantasies, but trying to claim any and all inspiration and derivation is paramount to "fanfiction" is exceedingly retarded.

>>149342564
Being inspired by something and being fanfiction is two separate things. While the latter is mostly flawed and trite, it's retarded to conflate and dismiss both concepts, which OP has demonstrated many times in this thread.
>>149342579
Yeah.

>>149341453 (OP)

>yesterday's writers were so incompetent they basically inspired an entire generation of indie writers to write what they wouldn't or couldn't write

Fixed for you.

>>149342585
OP clearly doesn't see a difference.

>>149341914
A speculator about a real life hypothetical is not a "fan writing fiction", smart ass.

>>149341463
That, and then you consider sharing it with others so it's not just in your head

>>149342636
He is a fan of life writing fiction about it.
Checkmate.

>>149342689
This is like saying stock market speculators are fanfiction writers, knock it off retard

>>149342712
If they write their shit out and it has a passable plot it is.

>>149341872
You do gotta understand this place is little gay bitch central. You have to learn when it's worth it to engage for any not waste of time discussion but the main point of every board is just bitching, /v/ hates videogmes, /tv/ hates movies, /r9k/ hate themselves, the only people having a good time in this cesspool is /o/ because they are the only ones actually genuinely autistic for real. If (You) really love art then learn when to shut the fuck up and let retarded threads like this one die in irrelevance

>>149342867
>shut the fuck up
He got the message 1 hour and 37 minutes ago

>>149342436
Absolute best girl. OTF was the perfect fanfic.

>>149341453 (OP)
The whole fandom community is full of rabid, entitled retards. They ruin everything they touch.

>>149343044
There is no art without an observer

>>149343077
Was Confederacy of Dunces not art until it was discovered and published years after the author died?

>>149343134
Of course not art must be experienced to BE art.

>>149342217
It's a ripoff of Journey to the West. Toriyama never had any artistic integrity.

>>149342237
You aren't giving any answers, you're just mindlessly defending fanfiction for some incomprehensible reason.

>>149342258
>whataboutism
Verhoven is a hack piece of shit, and you are avoiding the issue. Originality is fucking dead, and apparently we're all supposed to be okay with that.

>>149342500
And that's why I refuse to watch it. Fuck that shit.

>>149341910
Fate and Drifters.

>>149342579
>>149342585
"Inspiration" is just another word for plagiarism. Come up with your own ideas, or you are a hack, period.

>>149343544
Elaborate on Verhoeven and Toriyama's hackery

>>149343573
Shut the fuck up retarded faggot

>>149343520
Toriyama's naming conventions is peak artistic integrity.

>>149343573
>Come up with your own ideas, or you are a hack, period.
J.R.R. Tolkien is apparently a hack because his literary works and fictional languages are just heavily drawing from Anglo-Saxon/Germanic mythology and linguistics

>>149343573
>uncreative engagement farming hack demands everyone be "original" or he'll call them a hack

oh the irony

>>149343802
>engagement farming
implies he's profiting off this thread

>>149343743
>J.R.R. Tolkien is apparently a hack
Yes.

>>149343802
If you can't come up with an original idea, then you are a hack. That is objective fact.

Why and how is it considered okay to be a hack?

>>149343824
I've listed off several authors in this thread and you've done nothing except accuse them of hackery without really elaborating why
Reeks of low-effort trolling

>>149343520
You also haven't told me what's so Nazi about 40k

>>149343849
They are hacks, because they ripped off older ideas. Simple as. I don't know what the fuck you seek to gain from listing off a bunch of names as if that matters.

Now stop evading the point and answer my question. When the fuck did fanfiction become acceptable? Because it sure as hell didn't used to be.

>>149343933
Name a time when fanfiction, as you've defined it in this thread, was not acceptable

>>149343824
>>149343933
>uncreative engagement farming hack responses
typical

proof that the "Everything Needs to be ORIGINAL " people don't have a creative bone in their body

>>149343933
Because your reasoning is retarded. You're not shitting on these authors because of other stuff that went into their works, like the characters, themes, story, how it transforms or remixes its inspirations to create something new or the execution of all these things. The moment something isn't 100% original (inspired by something fictional or otherwise, as you've demonstrated when you called Tolkien a hack), you automatically label it hackery, simple as. You also type like a seething troon/leftoid. Still waiting on you to elaborate how 40k is "nazi" by the way.

>>149343976
1960-2010. Anne Rice even threatened legal action against fanfiction writers, and she was right to do so. It's borderline plagiarism.

>>149343992
>retard thinks I'm reading a single word of that until it answers my FUCKING question
When. Did. Fanfiction. Become. Acceptable?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Confederacy_of_Dunces
>Toole wrote the novel in 1963 during his last few months in Puerto Rico. It is hailed for its accurate depictions of New Orleans dialects. Toole based Reilly in part on his college professor friend Bob Byrne. Byrne's slovenly, eccentric behavior was anything but professorial, and Reilly mirrored him in these respects. The character was also based on Toole himself, and several personal experiences served as inspiration for passages in the novel. While at Tulane, Toole filled in for a friend at a job as a hot tamale cart vendor, and worked at a family owned and operated clothing factory. Both of these experiences were later adopted into his fiction.
This retarded hack author's book should've been kept unpublished, good riddance

>>149344040
>generic schizo blathering pretending to be a response

typical uncreative engagement farming hackery

>>149344040
Loves running his mouth about intellectual and artistic integrity but can't even read 4 sentences and shills for power-tripping copyright-cucks too LOL

>>149344049
Correct. "Write what you know." is just as trite as "inspired by a dream". Both of those are hack bullshit too.

>>149344086
I refuse to read your arguments until you answer my question. When did fanfiction become acceptable?

>>149344040
>steals the concept of vampires and rehashes it with dimestore romance slop
>sues anyone else who inspired from her work
>SO ORIGINAL

>>149344040
>1960-2010
That's weird, Verhoeven, Games Workshop, and SEGA (Sonic the Hedgehog was inspired by Felix the Cat) published their "hack fanfiction" during this time and yet they found widespread success anyway. Doesn't sound like fanfiction was unacceptable then

>>149344040
So now you know when fanfiction became acceptable
/thread

>>149344118
Hey, he said Anne Rice was correct to sue fanfiction authors, not that Anne Rice herself wasn't a hack
>>149344109
That was

>>149341453 (OP)
Fucking Alan Moore, man.

>>149344154
>That was
No it wasn't. It was yet more "no u" bullshit. You have yet to answer my question. Perhaps I should clarify that "when" is accompanied by an implicit "why" that I thought was fairly obvious, but apparently not.

Sergio Leone? Hack because he copied Akira Kurosawa's Yojimbo. Akira Kurosawa? Hack because he was inspired by Dashiell Hammett's novel Red Harvest. Dashiell Hammett? Also a hack, check this out
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Harvest
>Some of the novel was inspired by the Anaconda Road massacre, a 1920 labor dispute in the mining town of Butte, Montana.

>>149344154
If she's a hack she has no right to sue others for committing the same crime.

I'll bother entertaining your totally legitimate question if you can name a single creator, or a single work, that is totally and undeniably original

>>149344206
Not like your original argument was coherent or logical in any way at all. Any examples of works made by non-hacks that you can name? Just looking to see if there's a baseline this thread's premise can operate on

>>149341632
>kid stuff never makes money
Are you retarded?

>>149344134
>they found widespread success anyway
Because we live in a world full of retards who have no standards.

>>149344226
Pointing out that human beings are apparently incapable of ANY original thought whatsoever is not the gotcha win you think it is.

>>149341724
>>149341794
>B-but it's just for fu-ACK!
>Slit your wrists.
We get it, you're 16 and edgy.

>>149344251
Why is fanfiction considered acceptable nowadays? I am not humoring any of your supposed points until you answer my question.

>They still haven't realized it's shartybait

>>149344291
It was always acceptable is the answer. Small minds with desperate motives tries to make it otherwise but they haven't succeeded.

>>149344294
Is he the guy who keeps posting that Batman panel using a Sonic background?

>>149344294
This is 4chan
We knew since OP
We are engaging it to see if your shartybait is worth being remembered.

>>149344309
... How old are you? I heavily suspect you are too young to have directly experienced the attitude towards fanfic in the 90s-late 00s.

>>149344350
No one cared outside of some retarded niche places. People made fun of shitty fanfiction but no one cared about fanfiction itself.

>>149344350
You are a child with a child's understanding of things.
grasping at straws and spouting comebacks you heard from others. Try being ORIGINAL.

>>149344361
Yes they did, you actual child. Publishing any fanfic at all was begging to get cyberbullied.

Which by the way, is really something we need to re-normalize. Goddamn kids these days need to be taught that this shit is not okay.

>>149344404
I'm 33, you fucking retard. Are you the type of dipshit that thinks 4chan is the public?

>>149341742
>A story about english knights
> Chrétien de Troyes: "And along came a french knight, who was stronger, faster, and more handsome than every other knight! And everyone loved him and he end up cucking the king and causing Camelot's collapse (he got away with everything by the way)"
The eternal frenk...

>>149344275
You claimed that 1960-2010 was unacceptable for hack fanfiction, so how come all these works that were published in that era of fanfiction-shunning were allowed to flourish? Historical revisionism from you?
>>149344380
Talking like a troon also isn't original, but here we are. Still waiting on how 40k is "nazi shit" by the way.

>>149344411
>33
>defending fanfiction
...

>>149344455
Anon
Anon you seem to have confused if you were attacking or defending. You at once defend fanfiction being acceptable while demanding an answer about whether or not 40K is nazi.

What side are you on?

>>149344518
OP said 40k was nazi shit earlier in the thread and didn't elaborate further, just trying to grill him on that claim

>>149344538
Well you are clearly confused and need to reset your aiming parameters.

>>149344455
>40ktard is literally too stupid to look down a little to see the explanation
Can't make this shit up.

>>149344538
I don't need to elaborate further. It's an entire franchise that revolves around slurping on Space Hitler's mummified dick.

>Ancient Greek author Homer published the Illiad, which was based on a real war
Hackery goes back a long way bros...

>>149344581
You aren't even part of the conversation anymore.

>>149344581
Your gay "media literacy" post didn't exist when I made that query, sue me
Are there any baseline works that are 100% original with no inspirations? Seems like 99% of Western literary canon falls short of meeting your retarded standards

>>149344591
A lack of originality being old does not make it acceptable. The readers certainly won't take that as a valid excuse when they criticize your ripoff trash.

>>149344562
>>149344581
>>149344591
>>149344616
>>149344639
>>149344648
Did you reset your chatbot yet? Get it together and try to understand the responses it gives you.

I miss when /co/ was good...

>>149344677
You were never good

>>149344666
Genuinely, why are you so desperate to defend fanfiction? At this point, you're telling on yourself.

>>149344677
/co/ was never good.

>Completely avoids every demand for a work that meets his standards like the coward he is

>>149344706
I am not defending fanfiction
I am attacking you stupidity

>>149344716
As soon as you can point to something that's actually original, I'll be happy to tell you.

>>149344719
Except you absolute are defending fanfiction by treating the objection to it as something to be mocked and argued against.

>>149344781
I treat every objection as something to be mocked and argued against. What now?

>>149344808
That makes you a contrarian bot. You're not a real person, and thus your "opinion" means nothing.

>>149344781
>As soon as you can point to something that's actually original
Not like you can either, going by your set standards everything fictional ever created was authored by hack creators

>>149344831
If you can't handle being mocked you are more bot than I. If you wanted a genuine discussion I would have given you one. You didn't and no, I won't waste my time trying to prove that. You wanted the chaos and I gave it to you so why complain? Not having as much fun being a troll?

>>149344835
Yeah. And? Maybe the fact humans apparently cannot create any original ideas is a conversation we should have at some point. But nah, gotta stick up for AO3 instead. Fuck you.

>>149344241
He cannot and will continue avoiding doing so
It's confusing, because the OP post implies there was a period of time that 100% original creations were being published

>>149344860
>If you wanted a genuine discussion I would have given you one.
Bullshit. If you wanted a genuine discussion, you'd have actually done so instead of getting pissy that someone pointed out that fanfiction is bad. Go back to DeviantArt.

>>149344894
I'm sorry did you post but forget to type?

>>149344871
So what are you so wound up about? You're better off wageslaving or dying for Israel instead of searching for your white whale of originality

>>149344871
>a conversation we should have at some point.
To what end? We'd either accept true originality is impossible (If you disagree, you HAVE to provide an example), or we'd have to all agree to never create anything ever again ever because being unoriginal is the greatest sin of all.

>>149345150
The biggest AIslop argument bait ever

I've commissioned 2 fanfics
Azula gangbang by her guards and an X-23 fanfic

>>149345224
Shit taste

>>149345261
Didn't want shipping for Azula and wanted to explore Laura's past a little while living with Gabby

>>149345301
Gangbangs are shit taste. So is commissioning fanfics. Just write something yourself
>B-b-buh writing hard
Git gud

>>149345341
I like supporting my friends

I like to listen to fics while im on the bus. I use a TTS on my phone to listen to them. My backlog is massive and i think i wont be engaging with propper books for at least two years when i'll be done with it. I'd appreciate any recommendations for fics over 20k words.

The X-23 story is only 3 chapters done so far and I have a few more planned

i know its bait but this thread has been pretty entertaining
thank you op for your dedication to the bit

I refused my wife's sexual advances last night because I was busy writing an Avatar: The Last Airbender fan fic.

What's the best fanfic you have ever read?

>>149346409
Mine

>>149345150
>To what end?
So we can fix the problem and actually start coming up with new ideas. What the fuck, anon.

I'm genuinely happy about talking about fanfic

>>149341749
>>149341796
Sounds good anon

>>149341897
This has been said before but fans will add what is lacking on canon: if the story is grim, they will add cuteness, if the story is cute they will make it grim, etc.
So yeah, if the story is badly written...

>>149342590
What I just said

>>149345983
I thank you for it anon

>>149346548
Kys faggot

>>149346573
Wish we had a fanfic board desu.

>>149346573
>This has been said before but fans will add what is lacking on canon: if the story is grim, they will add cuteness, if the story is cute they will make it grim, etc.
>So yeah, if the story is badly written...
If you don't like the story, that doesn't give you permission to steal it and claim it as your own.

>>149346691
is there enough content to be supported on an image board?

I think there should be a fanfic thread that jumps to relevant boards every 3 threads or so, just long enough to be on the board for over a day, remind everyone then jump ship.

I figure multiple boards because there are so many fanfics for /a/, /co/, /v/, /tv/, that you can just jump and be on another board for the rest of the week.

Or just start a new trend, /co/ fanfic thursdays, /v/ fanfic tuesdays, etc

>>149347984
It'd just be people shilling their own shit and being very autistic about it. Comment threads are already a fucking shitshow, can't imagine a dedicated thread for it.

>>149347984
Strictly speaking it'd be /lit/ or /ic/. But regardless if it was defined by format or content >>149348001 is correct and they'd quickly devolve into self-shilling.

>>149348001
also just the nature of the medium, fanfics are just text, this is an image board

>>149341872
>/co/ just has zero respect for art
What gave it away, the AI threads or the bitter autists who want everything to fail because theyre unhappy with their own lives

>>149348227
picrel is knee jerk reaction to a.i.

>>149346707
Tell that to Hollywood and several adaptions in the past few years

>>149342436
>>149342947
One of the best stories that I've read in years. I'm glad that the author is doing another story set in the same world. Shit like this is why I'm glad fanfiction exists in the first place.

But yeah, XCOM is hard carried by fanfiction these days. Luckily, there are a lot of really good ongoing stories at the moment. I'm not sure what it is that attracted all of these writers, but I'm grateful for it.It's totally the vipers. And I'm not complaining.

>>149342436
>>149342947
>>149348494
can you link the fic your talking about?

>>149348798
Search "On the Fringes" by Toga on archive of our own. This site seems to think that direct links are spam.
It's a bit of a slow burn, but the character development and worldbuilding is really well done.

it got acceptable when this pussy got wet, die mad faggot
I'm gonna write another one where conquest fucks mark just for you now lol

>>149346691
YES
I can't post ANYTHIGN anymore without a thousand screaming children all ignoring content warnings on literal fucking bean-fuel all going "writing rape is the same thing as supporting rape but writing violence is different!"
shut the ufck UP
I AM TYRINGTO CUM

>>149349675
You would think that people writing and seeking out fiction on the internet would be more aware that it is all FICTIONAL, but sanity and common sense have long since left the collective consciousness.

>>149350273
Yo right? And you'd think that if someone like, fuckign thinks that "ooo oh no fuckin drawing bad shit is just as bad as doing bad shit" would just, like, not even watch the show, right?
Not like fuckign harass Ottley on twitter for drawing anissa wearing a different costume and say that, fucking, we should boycott him and the comics? lmfao
Like the cartoon is still guro????? You are still partaking in the delicious sin of torn human flesh, in that case? Get tf over it lmfao, anissa *was* cute in that pic and she was EVEN CUTER DYING <3

>>149341453 (OP)
Strange question, for most on-going things the first gen of the creative staff will obviously be the original, the second typically are others still in the industry professionally qualified enough to fill in during a hiatus or retirement, but by the third it's typically a fan who was vying for the job.

It's not just western comics, manga like Berserk and Dragonball instead of just being ended with the passing of their creators are now being done by associates and elevated fans who regardless of initial instructions have different interpretations and intentions for the work.

Fanfiction was, is and will always be acceptable as long as something becomes ongoing long enough. Someone, not me obviously, should actually do a storytime composed solely of creator entries and see how many would have ran and ended as well received as the best sold or reviewed.

>>149349675
>bean-fuel
God, I hate women. Now I'm going to go back to writing one of my self-insert rapefics (it's okay because my self-insert is the one being raped.)

>>149350416
I don't wanna get raped, I wanna rape Mark.

>>149350430
And I'd rape Conquest too if I could figure out how to write a character that could do that

>>149350430
Gay. I wanna be raped by various /co/ women.

>>149350457
I couldn't get raped by *any* /co/ women.
I wanna grab Thula by her asking-for-it-braid and hammer throw her into a fucking mountain and eat her pussy til she doesn't remember any stupid fucking empire and defects and marries me.

>>149350481
Domination is so last year, Anon. I want Jasper from SU to corner me, grope me as she pleases, and then make me her bitch.

>>149350517
Senpai I was writing that shit in 2016, you cranked it to MY writing, I already made you cum. You are welcome.
>*~corner me mommy~*
No, you're going in a fuckin crater, I lvoe you I'm gonna make you cum again <3

I wish we had the ip counter back.

>>149350532
You got somewhere betetr to be you may as well head there, chief

>>149350529
I guarantee I haven't read a thing you've written. I can't stand other authors' interpretations of femdom rape, I can only enjoy my own.

>>149350564
Aiite I won't rape you and kill you then, grats lol

>>149350573
>Killing after rape
Knew I wouldn't like your schlock. Everyone knows rape followed being coerced into marriage with kids is the patrician's choice

>>149350602
with girls, yeah
not a man lol

>>149350608
Wait, are you talking about female on female rape? Because I've been talking about female on male rape.

>>149350608
>>149350602
you know what, I'm wrong, you're right on that one; I would emotionally destroy Conquest because he's already doing really poorly mentally and make him knock me up as often as possible
I might fucking re-name him and purposefully confuse him real bad as to whether it's a positive or not lmfao

>>149350638
oh sorry, gender doesn't matter to me, I just lapse into whichever lol

>>149341453 (OP)
Fanfiction writing becomes acceptable when creative spaces refuse to gatekeep or ensure study and research into the primary sources that inspired the IP that they love. Let's use Star Wars as an example.

Star Wars was inspired by:
>Lensmen
>Foundation
>Dune
>Barsoom
>Flash Gordon
>Kurosawa movies
>LOTR and The Hobbit
>Heavy Metal
>the sci-fi works of Harry Harrison
>Westerns
>WW2 movies
>Lawrence of Arabia
>Coppola's movies
>the works of Khalil Jibran and Carlos Castaneda
>Lucas' Methodist upbringing/The Bible
>Kirby's New Gods
>Metropolis
>Valerian
>Wagner's Ring Cycle
>Buddhism/Tao/Hindu religion and philosophy
>L Ron Hubbard's sci-fi
>Buck Rogers
>Tintin
>Shakespeare

So if you're a Star Wars fan (especially one that works for Lucasfilm), you should have a good grasp of all of this if you want to include something original that feels authentic to what Star Wars is. But we don't live in a culture that encourages us to learn more about what we consume.

>>149350644
Hot, but I want to be Conquest in that scenario
>>149350652
Ah, ok

>>149350685
>Hot, but I want to be Conquest in that scenario
I bet for the first few years he would too lol, I bet it would actually be super easy to manipulate him into doing anything, like what would it take? Hi! How are you? :) I work in the cafeteria on base and I've heard you don't have that many friends either just liek me so I thought that we should hang out together! Wanna get outta here? :D
he'd be in that windowless van so fast lol

>>149350727
>Windowless van
My God, you truly have no class. You gonna take him to an abandoned warehouse next?

You need more finesse, and a better understanding of your victim. Drag him in, take advantage of his weaknesses. The windowless van should be figurative, not literal.

Unless the female can physically overpower the male, in which case it should be violent and controlling.

>>149349675
I don’t read fanfiction from AO3 accounts created during and after the pandemic.
All the new blood is bored house wives saying “I don’t know Tolkien canon lolz. Support BIPOC :)” and retarded tiktokers thinking it’s a social media site

>>149350828
well good lord, yes it's a metaphorical van, I don't have any candy to offer him either lol
besides, the nissan has been broken down on the front lawn for months now
It's obviously a thinker, that's the thing that makes the game fun; I, why I suppose I hadn't even really ever considered him that way until just now, I'm really having to mull this over
I *don't* think the female can be stronger, I can't feel out a path where Conquest isn't fine with getting snu-snu'd to death, him and Battle Beast seem into that, and that's just not what I'm in for
Yeah, it would take time
She would need to act not-scared of him especially, big time, make him feel like she's *comfortable* being around him. Tell him how important he is in off-handed ways, like it's just matter of fact that she didn't have to think about.
Yeah, and the whole time she's fully planning to force him to reproduce, which he pretty much confirms in canon that he has no interest in; him and Anissa are the only two main-cast viltrums who show zero interest in breeding with humans (yes anissa comes around, whatever)
Yeah, yeah, that could be done. That could be thought out.
I will now think this out lmfao, thank you anon

>>149350921
Omfg it realyl was then, wasn't it? I rmemeber the last time I enjoyed jsu tlogging on on the regular was literally 2019; that fucking explains why everyone is so anti-violence and shit, it's stupid ass normie women and girls

>>149351011
No problem. I'm gonna go work on my Jasper femdom rape fic. I think I'll have her molest my character in the bathroom while all the Gems are home

>>149351056
she should turn the water on in the bathtub and fuck you in it while it fills and not let you up when the water starts getiting too high lmfao

>>149351078
Very hot, I will be stealing that. Thank you, Anon.I think she'll turn on the water to literally drown out my screams for help

>>149351117
Kino, she's a mean bitch, gotta love it

>>149341453 (OP)
It became acceptable 700 years ago when one the most influential pieces of literature was written.

>>149350683
I think this is a good point. People overrate originality because they think ideas come fully formed out of someone's head when the truth it's a fusion of a lot of sources and influences

>"Originality isn't real, dummy! Everything is inspired by everything else!"
Then why does literally every critic ever decry derivative works as being intrinsically bad because it features elements that they've seen before?

>>149341453 (OP)
there is nothing wrong with fanfiction and it even gave us kino like dipper goes to taco bell

>>149345224
Why not azula and her brother?

Fanfiction is based and is only cringe when you enslave yourself to respecting the 'rules' of other people

and in a world where everything is for-profit driven, it's a breath of fresh air to see someone make something for free, out of love, even if some faggotron thinks its "cringe"

>>149351452
I didn't want to deal with shipping

>>149351369
>there is nothing wrong with fanfiction
It is by its very nature derivative.

>>149351463
Making something you know is bad out of "love" just makes you a bad person. Using the fact corporations are bad as an excuse for shitty behavior also makes you a bad person.

>>149351522
omgf this nigga thinks derivation is inherently negative and that homage is shitty behavior *lmfao*

>>149351522
>It is by its very nature derivative.
everything ever is. "nothing is new under the sun"

>>149351535
It is.

>>149351568
Doesn't make it acceptable.

>>149351299
Critics decry derivative works as being inherently flawed for featuring elements that they've seen before...because derivative works just superficially copy, and don't really take influence from a complex and large body of sources. That's what actually makes them derivative.

There were lots of Star Wars rip-offs labeled derivative for good reason: Star Oddysey, Starchaser, Battle Beyond The Stars. Meanwhile, other media inspired by Star Wars managed to gain followings because they honed in on specific facets of Star Wars to serve as inspiration (The Last Starfighter) or used it as a jumping off point for other ideas (later Battlestar Galactica)

>>149351602
>Doesn't make it acceptable.
ok make a brand new color right now

do you guys get mad at fanart too? I don't get it

>>149351625
Superficially copying something and being inspired by something are the same thing. You are attributing a level of nuance to this that simply does not exist.

>>149351637
literally this

>>149351602
Explain tf how it is then, sir

>>149351659
How are they the same thing? What's your reasoning behind this?

>STILL refuses to name something that meets his made-up standards

>NOOOO YOU CAN'T GET INSPIRED BY OTHER PEOPLE
that's has literally been the best outcome all throughout human history see: cultural osmosis, motivational speakers, scientists working off past scientist's research, collabs, role models, missionaries, "paying it forward" good deeds
you fucking spastic retards

>>149351637
Fanart is cringe too.

>>149351693
You are taking ideas you did not create. Taking something that is not yours. In literally any other context, we would call this theft.

>>149351758
GR8 B8 M8, I R8: 8/8

>>149351758
true I saw a 2nd grader drawing spiderman for fun the other day and I ate his picture and told him he's a hack for not making his own characters

>>149348494
Heirs to the elders is another one worth checking out. Its still ongoing

>>149351736
>"No it's fine because humans are inherently uncreative, and HAVE to steal in order to accomplish anything!"
...

>>149351856
well anon, lead by example. be the first person in history to have a completely 100% original uninfluenced idea. post a creature design
we're waiting

>>149351856
nah man, we finally noticed the smell is coming from the half of a dead bluegill you put on the hook for us; no thanks

>>149351844
I actually did read the recent update and I’ve been loving it so far. I got into XCOM fics earlier this year and have been on a massive binge. I feel lucky that there are like five or six really good fics that are currently ongoing, so there a lot of updates to look forward to.

Okay, cool. Literally nothing is original, so I'm just supposed to be okay with people sending bombs to my house.

>>149351945
You're supposed to be okay with this clit in your mouth bitch lmao

>>149351955
BASED

>>149341453 (OP)
Because there's enough monkeys on enough typewriters to put out enough copies of horny/autistic Shakespeare to get noticed now. So now the stuff people actually like is dominating the discussion instead of the latest rendition of A Trekkie's Tale.

>>149351955
No fuck you. I grew up having it drilled into my head that being unoriginal is one of the worst things any creator can possibly do. And yet here you all are defending fanfiction and being like "Nah, inspiration is natural. There's no such thing as new ideas.". Fuck you.

>>149351983
Well now, #1, I never said nothin bout no morals or values; I said I want force myself upon the super-powered because I am a small weak loser irl, thank you very much
But, secondly;
I'm sorry, anon.
We should write an original fanfiction together; we'll have to think of word for that at some point though

>>149351983
welcome to the real world fucko lmao next you're gonna tell us you believe in soulmates

but it's good to be inspired by the previous man. the entire world is one huge collab project spanning all of time. it is the beauty of being human

>>149351983
The most based thing an author can do is straight up steal ideas and flex on the original author by executing them better than he ever did.

>>149352018
>>149352019
This revisionism is some serious bullshit. Back in the day, you were liable to get shot if people perceived that you got your ideas from somewhere else. You don't get to suddenly turn around on this. Not without consequences. Hey there's an original idea, a society where the government breaks your knees with a crowbar if you change your mind about something. Go fuck yourself.

>>149352053
There is no beauty in being human, you fucktarded hippie.

>>149352058
Yeah, flex all the way to court after getting sued. Moron.

>>149352062
>back in the day, this imaginary scenario in my head happened

lol

>>149352053
>we're all ONE collab, the HUMAN collab
;-; fuck, that's real

>>149352062
>>149352076
I wanna get you out of that bunker and take you away form all this

>>149352076
>non-answers

lol, OP doesn't know a thing about law. But what do you expect from a serial plagiarist like him?

>>149352062
nigga whut? greek mythos is based on human behavior. dragons are based on lizards. werewolves are based on schizos. vampires are based on vlad the Impaler. the first caveman paintings were of just daily life like hunting bison
get a grip

>>149352100
You weren't there, you're too young.

>>149352101
And I want you to drink bleach.

>>149352114
There is only so far you take the "homage" bullshit before it becomes an outright ripoff.

>>149352076
>There is no beauty in being human, you fucktarded hippie.
hating hippes is sooooo unoriginal, anon

>>149352132
And literally nobody gave a shit about that in the 90s to late 00s. If your story had ANY derivative elements, it was considered bad, period. So what the fuck happened to make people turn around on this? What the fuck happened?

>>149352136
I would force you to try to start trying to get me pregnant again immediately following each delivery well before the doctor says it's safe to resume normal marital-activity ever ysingle time so that inevitably, eventualyl we would enf up with at leats one set of trailer-park-twins

I think it’s so funny that Sonic still pisses people off so badly.
Is it arrested development or something, like being eternally stuck in 2007?

>>149341453 (OP)
Fanfiction was always acceptable.

>>149341453 (OP)
What post modernism does to a mf

>>149352211
Sonic is trash. Always has been, always will be. Acquire standards, autist.

>>149352162
>90s to late 00s
have you ever heard of this small indie studio called disney? all they did in the 90s was readapt old fairytales
>What the fuck happened?
you are a schizo

>>149341453 (OP)
Somewhere in the 40-75 CE era when a bunch of incel jewaboos slapped together Torah fanfiction and called it the New Testament.
With the New Testament.

>>149352222
I'm writing one

>>149352244
>have you ever heard of this small indie studio called disney? all they did in the 90s was readapt old fairytales
Oh, so it's okay when muh heckin corporations do it. Typical.

>>149352276

>>149352276
>ignores all the fanfics and fanart and spin off stories and comics inspired by other shit, and song remixes, and reimaginings to cry "MUH COORP"
you are INTENTIONALLY being schizo lmao we're done here

>>149352225
>Guy disproportionately angry at a game for children that he as a grown man could simply ignore, all because he gets sensory overload from seeing cringe fan art
>Is somehow not the autist here

>>149352295
HAHAHAHA

>>149352307
Derivative "works" are bad. It's really that simple. To pretend otherwise is cope regarding a total lack of any new ideas. You being a fucking coward and refusing to acknowledge that will not magically change this.

>>149352340
>establish everything ever is derived
>"am I wrong? no it's [everything ever] that's shit"
kek like I said we're done here. when you can name one 100% uninfluenced media we can talk more
(You) and deuces

>>149352364
>kek like I said we're done here. when you can name one 100% uninfluenced media we can talk more

He won't. Because he's a hackfraud that has yet to be able to back up any of his arguments

>>149352364
>>149352381
If being derivative is okay, then why did everyone scramble to call everything a ripoff back in the day? It's almost like we as a society agreed that being derivative was bad or something.

>>149342003
/co/ is just diet deviantart. Always has been

>>149352604
That is a problem that needs to be fixed.

you'll say anything to pretend you have an argument, won't you

>>149341453 (OP)
>When did Fanfiction become acceptable
Sometime around when the Romans marched into Greece and went "Hey, this Zeus guys is pretty cool. But what if we were to call him Jupiter and disguise him as our own gods? Hohoho, delightfully devilish!"

>>149345224
What is X-23 fic about?

>>149353921
People have been ripping each other off since time immemorial, but you still get a 0 out of 10 and doxxed by CinemaSins kiddies if your story contains even a hint of something that exists in other works.