Thread 149342718

>Superman is an immigrant
>His homeland is a doomed shit hole that collapsed due to all of its failures
>His parents sent him to Earth because they wanted him to dominate the people there and impose those failing values on them against their will
>Superman rejected that idea completely, fell in love with our culture, and just wanted to be a helpful member of the new land he called home rather than propagate the reason he ended up here in the first place
Holy
Fucking
Based

>>149342718 (OP)
So they made him goku and invincible?

>>149342736
Pretty much. Not really a bad call imo

>>149342736
Invincible was born in America, Superman is an illegal immigrant, I don't know what the policies are in Japan whether Goku would be a legal immigrant or not

>>149342747
Goku lives in fantasy China

>>149342747
>Superman is an illegal immigrant
He's a refugee. His planet and people are dead as hell, save for Kara who's a relative.

>>149342736
and also Spiderman, Sonic the Hedgehog, One Punch Man, Homelander, Peter Griffin

>>149342864
Superman never claimed asylum or refugee status, making him an illegal alien

>you need to be a settler colonialist
>"no"
>fucks up notIsrael and then Hawkgirl kills Netanyahu
basado

>>149342718 (OP)
>Gunnbots call Snyderbros "pajeets"
>Gunn defends immigration
>Gunnbots are pro immigrants and Snyderbros are racists
It's been a wild ride.

>>149342928
But he was adopted as a baby by American citizens which in most cases bestows automatic citizenship. It's really just a paperwork issue.

>>149344303
Basically this, legally speaking Clark probably isn't even filed as adopted. All things considered Clark is a fully legal citizen on the United States.

>>149342718 (OP)
Yawn, the more I hear about this movie the less I want to watch it
When did turning a character into a pussy make them based? I don't want a friendly society superman that bends the knee to earth, I want a superman that isn't afraid to kill people and impose his will
All they did was make superman from the my adventures with superman show but slightly less annoying

>>149344378
>I want a superman that isn't afraid to kill people and impose his will
Anon you probably just don't like Superman.

>>149344378
>I don't want a friendly society superman that bends the knee to earth, I want a superman that isn't afraid to kill people and impose his will
that's not superman at all then. the fuck is wrong with you

>>149342718 (OP)
Still unsucessful

>>149344378
Oh boy do I have a Hero for you.

>>149344303
You can't just grab babies off the street and adopt them, what the Clarks did was illegal

>>149342718 (OP)
OH POR DIOS! EL ES JUSTO COMO YO! ANDALE! ANDALE! ARRIVA!

also hate how they are trying to ruin superman like they ruined Thor by making him dumb and act like a zoomer

>>149342718 (OP)
The "Superman is an immigrant" idea is a lot like "X-men are minorities" idea. If you think about it for more than 5 minutes you realize it's kinda stupid and doesn't make sense and it kinda makes the immigrants/minorities look shitty.

>>149342718 (OP)
So basivally imigrants are evil and cultures shouldn't blend.

>>149344378
The Boys and Invincible have rotten your little brain.

>>149344625
They didn't do that though. The grabbed a baby with no clear guardians in sight and took him in. There'd be zero search for Clark so as far the Kents they are his only option

>>149344625
It was some random orphaned toddler whose mama and papa will never be found no matter how hard anyone tries. As far as government bureaucrats are concerned the Kents are a decent enough solution

>>149342736
Yeah, that's the narrative DC has been pushing since around 2018-19.

>>149344378
Snyder, is that you? Look, if you want a Superman who embodies everything that Superman ISNT. Then maybe you just hate Superman.

I recommend reading "What's So Funny About Truth, Justice & The American Way?" That's the story that pretty much explains why Superman isn't the way you want him to be and also why thats a good thing.

>>149342718 (OP)
Wait, let me get this straight, people shit on MoS because Pa Kent was morally more grey, but making Jor-El Omniman is fine?

>>149344954
Honestly the Omni-Jor-El thing screams of Studio mandates. Primarily because that's what Jor El has been ever since Bendis came (At the time, we didn't realize "Bendis Is Coming" was more a threat than an announcement)

>>149344977
>At the time, we didn't realize "Bendis Is Coming" was more a threat than an announcement
Speak for yourself.

>>149344977
Everyone saw it as a treat.

>>149344467
This

>>149342718 (OP)
My adventures with superman beat them to it first with the evil kryptonians

>>149344954
Yeah? Pa Kent should be Superman's moral center, he is the dad that raised him and imparted all the qualities that make Superman the virtuous paragon he turned into. Jor-El is the father he never knew, the life he could never truly know. His Kryptonian heritage has very little impact on what kind of man he is since in most stories he doesn't even find out about it until he's an adult.

>>149342747
Actually going by Trump's bill, Mark would be illegal today.

>>149342747
I hate to disappoint you, invinci sister, but Grayson is the total epitome of an anchor baby. At best, you can call him a first gen immigrant baby and those are being deported by your orange daddy, too

>>149345255
Yep, he's the classic anchor baby that anchor baby Ted Cruz has been warning us about since 2014

>>149345596
You lost

>>149342718 (OP)
So when does the torrent drop?

>>149342718 (OP)
>Immigrant who assimilates
Lol

>>149344954
>>149344977
The best part is that they leak the video of Jor-El telling his son to make a harem of earth women so he can recreate Krypton so Lex has a bunch of monkeys typing this shit on social media.

I wish this was a joke. Webm related if you don't believe me.

>>149345730
It really depends on a country, but a decent share of first gen immigrants in many places is well-behaved as they are glad to have left whatever shithole they came from. Instead, their second-gen kids are often the ones who tend to be more cancerous because of their unresolved identity issues.

>>149342736
Smallville did it before Invincible did, but yeah you could say they're taking from Goku.

>>149344954
Yes, because Pa Kent actually raised Superman to be a good guy so making him an asshole is retarded. Jor-El could have been a serial killer for all it matters to Superman's life. He never even met the guy. All that matters is he sent him on the pod to Earth.

>>149346023
>All that matters is he sent him on the pod to Earth.
So Jihad-El is fine by you as long as Superman converts as soon as he land on Earth?

>>149345956
Why monkeys? Is it just because le quirky silver age?

>>149346023
>>149345232
The Last Son of Krypton you retards. He's supposed to carry the best of both worlds.

>>149345255
No, because the mother is a resident.

>>149346063
Superman isn't converting to anything since he lands on Earth as a baby and never knew Jor-El.
>>149346077
don't care. he remembers absolutely nothing about Krypton anymore than your average American who claims they've got viking blood but has never been to Europe knows about Norway. Not even the last Kryptonian when Supergirl (who has actually remembers Krypton and its culture) and Zod and his goons are running about and who knows who else.

>>149345255
Mark has an American mother, he'd be fully legal.

>>149342718 (OP)
That's such an ugly shade of blue. And the 'circuitry' lines look AI-generated, the flow is awful.

>>149342736
They made him a metaphor for rejecting white culture.

>>149346067
There is a scene where Superman is beaten by a kaiju and endup in a crater, Yamcha style. He is then helped by some random indian passerby. Later in the movie Lex kidnaps this indian guy and play russian roulette with him in from of Superman just because, and the guy says "it's ok Supahman, I have no one, no friends, no family, no one cares". Lex then pulls the trigger and boom, guy is killed. Why? Fuck if I know. This movie is full of scenes like this, Gunn is just retarded.

Btw, the original scene was Lex doing this to Krypto but test screenings were insanely negative.

>>149346280
>There is a scene where Superman is beaten by a kaiju and endup in a crater, Yamcha style
That doesn't happen. The Hammer of Borovia ( who is a Superman clone being piloted by Luthor, hence why he can fuck up Superman) is the one who craters him both times. The Kaiju isn't able to inflict any damage on Superman whatsoever. Luthor was killing the Indian guy because he wanted Superman to tell him more about his life and to torture him.

>>149344977
James Gunn cannot write a protagonist without an evil father

>>149346342
What about Groot and Drax?

>>149344734
Read the issue of Hitman that had guest star Supermsn

>>149346316
Yeah you are right, I need to sleep man. Still a shit scene

Should have killed the dog, I hated that little shit

>>149346342
cope. Pa Kent is his real father. Jor-El fags stay seething.

>>149344734
>"UGH! They hate me because I'm different and they are heckin' racists! I'm just an innocent minority like you, True Believer™!!!"
>"Sir, they hate you because you vaporized a whole town during a temper tantrum"

>>149345956
This looks like hilarious garbage.

>>149346374
Groot was all about that. You remember when he said I am groot? Or when he said I am groot?

>>149344977
>At the time, we didn't realize "Bendis Is Coming" was more a threat than an announcement
I remember the threads back then and "we" absolutely did. Hell, I remember a discussion in a monkey paw thread before it happened where the possibility of it happening was brought up.

>>149345956
>Having a harem is presented as a bad thing
It's this sort of dumb bullshit that's ruining western comics and cartoons.

Why the fuck are the suits always decades behind Japan?

>>149346374
Not the protagonists, just silly side characters
Gamora has Thanos, Pete had Ego, Rocket had High Evolutionary

>>149345956
So... Where did all those faggots who were saying the "shitposting monkey army" was a fake leak from day one go?

I wonder how he's going to bring Markovia, since it was to the north of other two, into it. It would be interesting if the Justice Gang's actions directly leads to them invading a weakened Barovia.

>>149342752
Wrong. Goku lives in a fantasy globalized government where countries are mostly a thing of the past.

>>149344378
Tbh I do kinda wish they'd bring back a bit more of his Golden Age attitude where he wasn't afraid to do shit like destroy an oil rig entirely to piss off some robber barons but even that Superman wasn't really a killer

>>149346374
>>149346491
He could actually work that into Groot's character. iirc some comic addresses Groot being evil in his first appearance

>>149346551
>>149346342
Ratcatcher 2's dad wasn't evil.

>>149345956
Honestly stupid but not anything to get fucking butthurt over.

>>149345956
This is too accurate

>>149344378
I remember when people had to put in actual effort when making bait posts. Now, retards just take it hook, line and sinker.

>>149346554
Nothing from the leaks is fake, the movie actually double down on everything

>>149346710
It's just that at this point the movie is already oversaturated with bullshit. You have no idea how convoluted is the plot, feels like they cremmed three movies into one, the pacing is insane, its just one dumb joke/superman beatdown after another, you don't have time to really absorb anything.

>>149346668
Okay I'll give you that one but he was still a villain, just one with a good relationship with his daughter.

>>149346829
I'm not even sure if he was tbf. What qualifies as a "villain" seems pretty vague for Waller's purposes. In Creature Commandos Nina was locked up just for being a weird fish person. If he was a villain, it was probably just like he used his rats to steal shit.

Also Rick Flagg Sr. isn't evil and is very upset that his son was killed.

>>149346895
>>149346829
also now that I bring it up Nina's dad was a law-abiding, super good guy and father while her mother was the shitty parent.

Why do you hispanics hate illegal immigrants so much?

>>149346938
Because Hispanics are just based like that.

>>149342718 (OP)
>Superman is an immigrant
Is he though? He seems more like one of those kids that got adopted from a third world nation.

>Gunn literally turned Jor-El into MoS Zod
of course casuals don't know fucking anything and are only hearing the political spiel.
this isn't a Superman movie, it's Starship Troopers if it were a REAL adaptation.

>>149346938
Because it was a pain in the ass to get here legally and these assholes just broke in. That and they make us look bad.

I was on /tv/ and this same thread is over there word for word. I’m so high off pills rn too that I thought I was going stupid

>>149346938
>Be spic
>Live in a third world country ruined by leftists
>Bust your ass trying to get american citizenship in order to have a better life
>Learn english, become a working member of society and move your family so you can leave the shithole behind
>Then the same scum that made your country a shithole come barging through the window going "AY, ESE! DONDE ESTA MI GÜELFER? MAKE AMERICA MEXICO AGAIN! ARRIBA!" Taco Bell fajita in one hand, MORENA flag in the other
>The same scum is now leeching off your taxes, sending the money back to the shithole you escaped from, while being treated like royalty by the left
>Dems be like George Lucas looking at both Maul and Darth Talon and going "These two have the same color, they are friends now!"
>Racists will look at you each time another Ovimarlixion Sipo Apruebo Sánchez makes the news after murdering and raping a woman
Gee, I wonder why...

>>149347072
he's not like MoS Zod at all though. He just says Superman should rule as a king and spread his genes. Zod was a lunatic that just wanted to exterminate everything.

>>149346938
>>149347100
>>149347114
You see the same with older generations of non-European immigrants here in Europe too, since many of them came here through legal means in the late 80s-early 90s, while the modern boat guys literally just invade and try to disappear into the crowd.

>>149342747
Since 1986 he was technically “born” in Kansas (he gestated in a cyberwomb on the way to Earth).

Just got back, it was good
Minor complaints but he landed the proverbial plane
AMA

*Starring Pusher 3 as Bibi

>>149345255
Nolan wouldnt care. He would just assassinate him and his successor like he did with the Guardians of the Globe until the bill goes away.

>>149342718 (OP)
Foreings have objectively evil values, the only way for immigrants to be good is if they forsake their native culture and adopt American Culture.

>>149347142
Pretty sure the birthing matrix has since been retconned.

>>149342864
Yea but he doesn't have to come to fucking earth nigga cat fly through the universe, go fuck off to space space nigger.

>>149346596
Based and NWO-pilled.
Why were the globalists the bad guys, Marvel?

>>149345956
How Monty Burns of him.

>>149342718 (OP)
I will now watch your movie.

>>149346521
>>149344977
I remember the BENDIS IS COMING rule 34.

>>149342718 (OP)
Eugenics is an european-anglo thing. But it's obvious the message is a switch and bait that will be explored in other movies if a sequel is green-lantered lol

>>149342736
Hes more like Mark with how much he gets his ass beat and starts crashing out

>>149342736
Yes, Superman now has to justify himself for not being a Vlitrumite or Homelander, Lex Luthor won

>OMG HE LOSES FIGHTS
Luthor outsmarted him with a clone of himself, it's the first time in 30 years of life and 3 years of being Superman that he fucking lost
>OMG HE'S AN IMMIGRANT
This is not even in the fucking movie stop being a faggot

You can only bitch and moan about Jor-El being retconned, everything is unironically anti-woke schizophrenia you are all fucking stupid and unbelievably dense when some guy says something you don't like

>>149347897
>This is not even in the fucking movie stop being a faggot
You can thank Gunn's brother trying to stir up a retarded marketing stunt for this.

>>149345956
No shot of one of the monkey's writing exerts from Romeo and Juliet? GARBAGE.

>>149347897
>OMG HE LOSES FIGHTS
He basically loses all his fights, he needs Krypto and Mr T. and the Daily Planet team to save his ass in each of his fights.
>OMG HE'S AN IMMIGRANT
True, fuck Sean and James Gunn for promoting this bullshit, they told people in interviews this was a woke movie that would upset right-wingers and guess what, there is nothing here. They alienated half of their audience for absolute nothing.

>>149348300
It's the first time he loses a fight
HE GETS BEATEN BY HIMSELF WITH RETARD STRENGTH AND THE SMARTEST MAN IN THE PLANET, THAT'S WHAT IT TOOK FOR HIM TO LOSE
O
N
C
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He can handle the kaiju, he doesn't win because he doesn't want to kill him
He's handicapped while holding the baby and still wins against the troopers, Krypto and tentacle man help but even then his breath is what saves them
He beats Engineer alone
Krypto evens out the fight against Luthor by making it 2v2 and Krypto never hits Ultraman after he's called

>>149346787
>You have no idea how convoluted is the plot,
Insanely retarded statement

I'm supposed to hear
>Lex Luthor put a bunch of brainwashed monkeys in a pocket dimension to tarnish Superman's reputation in social media, including the Supershit hashtag that Superman is pissed about
and not like it because it's random bullshit
That part of Luthor's plan is so fucking irrelevant that it needs just 5 seconds of screentime, nigga clones superman, allies with israel, sends 30 translators to accurately translate the harem shit, built a pocket dimension, a super prison, killed superman bots and hooked up krypto to dog porn JUST to have society's green light to kill Superman
Just for that, he could have walked in with kryptonite and shot him in the face multiple times but this plan literally explained as it goes in the movie is all to justify the final fight and the near destruction of the universe

Just say you're a miserable fucking bitch and kill yourself

>>149344303
>It's really just a paperwork issue.
Bureaucracy is greater than any superpower

>>149348466
>Just say you're a miserable fucking bitch and kill yourself
kek why are you so mad if the movie is such a win for you? Goddamn chill bro

>>149342718 (OP)
I thought the movie was fine but frankly Gunn's recent DC outings have really highlighted how clearly the Guardians of the Galaxy actors are just really good at improv, cause no fucking way did Gunn even touch the best jokes in those films considering the performance he puts on here.

>>149344625
Might want to check the safe haven laws in Kansas, since Clark's parents were dead and he was effectively an abandoned newborn, which is a drastically different situation with regards to immigration, citizenship, etc.

All of which is a moot point anyways, because trying to make a fictional character the poster boy for illegal immigration to win imaginary culture war points is an extremely faggoty thing to do.

>>149344954
The moment you realized people who criticized MoS never argued in good faith and simply hated Snyder.

>>149342718 (OP)
why does James Gunn want Mexicans to come over to the US and have sex with American women?

>>149345596
You understand people have two parents, don't you?

>>149344954
Fucking up Jor-El's character is bad
Kevin Costner letting a tornado kill him to keep Superman's identity a secret is retarded
Your depressing peachteaslop is still dogshit.